Excelsior pre workout

Bernardhopkin said:
Not excelsior but I ordered another big favourite- hydrazine from Predator . I have been taking it for years . Always 1 tablet . Latest tub I bought has a slightly different ingredient label , the tablets are now black instead of white and the effects are different . Always loved how smooth it was but unfortunately this is different . Much more jittery and not anywhere as smooth . It feels stronger to me too but not in a good way .
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Yeah, I feel the same way about the newer black Hydrazine although no jitters. Still better than most of the stuff out there. Just not a well rounded pre (only stims) but very convenient to use.
 
tstrogo93 said:
has anyone ordered from predator recently and if so how does the consistency look of the powder?
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It’s still very strange to me that only Predator has Excelsior and always a large amount in stock. You would think someone else would have it in stock if Predator has 500 units at a time. I know there is speculation about the owners knowing each other and that Excelsior may be only exclusively sold on Predator but still.
 
Deeznuts1985 said:
It’s still very strange to me that only Predator has Excelsior and always a large amount in stock. You would think someone else would have it in stock if Predator has 500 units at a time. I know there is speculation about the owners knowing each other and that Excelsior may be only exclusively sold on Predator but still.
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Well Predator and Imperial are obviously very close.
Driven Sports were / are also close to Predator. They were the last to sell Craze tubs and also gave Craze sample with tub of Hydrazine when that came out.
So my sense of deduction they are pretty much the same people behind this
I bought a tub Hydrazine around 2017 and it was ok after having Craze and Detonate but not that great and I threw away my bottle because I got bad mood from it,
Did try a sample of white Hydrazine and for me it felt a bit like quiet focus. Then the tub black Hydrazine I bough I barely feel anything honestly.
I have takin O.G Excelsior not daily and nothing holds up in my experience. Maybe I am slightly fried but felt very little at all from the black Hydrazine
 
It’s annoying when they change a formula . If you knew you could stockpile . However I’ve this laying here for over a year and I heard it’s good .. can anyone compare hydrazine original to this - Thermal Spark ingredients in photoInvalid Link Removed
 
Bernardhopkin said:
It’s annoying when they change a formula . If you knew you could stockpile . However I’ve this laying here for over a year and I heard it’s good .. can anyone compare hydrazine original to this - Thermal Spark ingredients in photoInvalid Link Removed
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hydrazine and excelsior (or stacking both as I’ve mentioned before) better for lifting IMO, thermal spark better for cutting, depends on what you are doing and what goals are…..
 
So after close to a half year without excelsior, i got a red tub from predator today. I took two flat scoops. And was expecting this to be a flat and boring experience..

Well i just finished a three hour muay thai session. And my body is crying for more training.

Wtf :eek::eek::eek:
 
Frode Falch said:
So after close to a half year without excelsior, i got a red tub from predator today. I took two flat scoops. And was expecting this to be a flat and boring experience..

Well i just finished a three hour muay thai session. And my body is crying for more training.

Wtf :eek::eek::eek:
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ohhhhh interesting! Expiry ? Can we have a picture of the powder texture ?
 
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Hydrazine _this is the black hydrazine I received for the first time exp 16/06/24 . Gives me the jitters compared to previous versions . Took an older white one today and felt smoother . Anybody received this batch ..
 
zufir said:
ohhhhh interesting! Expiry ? Can we have a picture of the powder texture ?
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4/24

Its a very light colour. But more grainy then the last tubs i got.

For sure more powerfull. And this one mixed well. Like the old tubs back in the days.

The fine powder versions didnt really mix at all.

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Frode Falch said:
4/24

Its a very light colour. But more grainy then the last tubs i got.

For sure more powerfull. And this one mixed well. Like the old tubs back in the days.

The fine powder versions didnt really mix at all.

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bro how are they going back in time with these expy dates lol?
 
Haha i am 100% honest. But just remember that things hit different people in different ways.

But i can only speak for my own personal experience. And this tub feel like the old ones i took back in the days when i just found excelsior.

The other tubs i tried last year and at the start of 2022 was kinda "weak".. like they had some of the same magic if you took like two BIG scoops..

But this red tub was fucking magic. I did a three hour session again today right after dinner. Now i am sitting in my chair and twisting my restless feet at 00:50 past midnight.. no sleep for a while.. i am thinking about going for a run or something.

Looking at my post, i almost sound like that muscleman dude.

:eek::ROFLMAO:
 
Frode Falch said:
Haha i am 100% honest. But just remember that things hit different people in different ways.

But i can only speak for my own personal experience. And this tub feel like the old ones i took back in the days when i just found excelsior.

The other tubs i tried last year and at the start of 2022 was kinda "weak".. like they had some of the same magic if you took like two BIG scoops..

But this red tub was fucking magic. I did a three hour session again today right after dinner. Now i am sitting in my chair and twisting my restless feet at 00:50 past midnight.. no sleep for a while.. i am thinking about going for a run or something.

Looking at my post, i almost sound like that muscleman dude.

:eek::ROFLMAO:
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lot # please
 
Anyway… if anyone has a tub of excelsior (pre predator nutrition) I’d be willing to buy it off you

“Money can be found again but excelsior is joining Zyzz”
 
zufir said:
Anyway… if anyone has a tub of excelsior (pre predator nutrition) I’d be willing to buy it off you

“Money can be found again but excelsior is joining Zyzz”
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Whats the point? At least admit that its not about working out at this point.
 
Well I probably made a dumb decision and bought a bottle of hydrazine off Amazon. Seller has positive reviews but it was $112. Worst case I won’t try to buy it again and end up with a black pill batch I suppose
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Well I probably made a dumb decision and bought a bottle of hydrazine off Amazon. Seller has positive reviews but it was $112. Worst case I won’t try to buy it again and end up with a black pill batch I suppose
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Damn homie!!! You can get a similar product (imo a much better product actually) in MitraDopa for half the price while supporting a board sponsor. Just saying.
 
ELROCK said:
Damn homie!!! You can get a similar product (imo a much better product actually) in MitraDopa for half the price while supporting a board sponsor. Just saying.
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Already have Mitradopa on the way. Hydrazine is something to rotate in on heavy work days every now and then. I rotate multiple things. Mitradopa is not something I’d want to take more than two times a week
 
tstrogo93 said:
is it a stimulant?
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It’s stimulating yes. Provides 6 plus hours of energy for me when I dose it at 6 and 7 caps. It’s a smooth energy not a cracked out feel at all. I only use it a couple times a week with multiple days in between use. I would suggest anyone trying to do the same.
 
I'm using 1/2 scoop of phenta plex, 1 hr pwo and 2g creatine HCl mixed in and having great workouts. It's surely not the same as Excelsior in terms of mood enhancement and euphoria but I assure u my workouts are amazing on it. Just as good as Excelsior imo.

Btw don't take a full scoop if u buy it. I measured it out and the manufacturer made a massive mistake...the scoop is almost a double serving fyi.

Actually phenta plex seems to last longer and no crash for me..I may use it 1-2 x per week max and I never use it back to back fyi.
 
WesleyInman said:
I'm using 1/2 scoop of phenta plex, 1 hr pwo and 2g creatine HCl mixed in and having great workouts. It's surely not the same as Excelsior in terms of mood enhancement and euphoria but I assure u my workouts are amazing on it. Just as good as Excelsior imo.

Btw don't take a full scoop if u buy it. I measured it out and the manufacturer made a massive mistake...the scoop is almost a double serving fyi.

Actually phenta plex seems to last longer and no crash for me..I may use it 1-2 x per week max and I never use it back to back fyi.
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I, without measuring the scoop, took a heaping scoop of Phenta Plex and it was one of the best feelings I have had on any preworkout.
 
Drakee said:
Doesnt that have kratom in it?
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yes a really potent extract. Definitely one of the more potent ones I’ve tried. It’s excellent I just try to avoid extracts too often because of how much they seem to increase my tolerance. But it’s probably the best kratom product I’ve ever used
 
CATdiesel76 said:
yes a really potent extract. Definitely one of the more potent ones I’ve tried. It’s excellent I just try to avoid extracts too often because of how much they seem to increase my tolerance. But it’s probably the best kratom product I’ve ever used
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Same.
 
Frode Falch said:
Haha i am 100% honest. But just remember that things hit different people in different ways.

But i can only speak for my own personal experience. And this tub feel like the old ones i took back in the days when i just found excelsior.

The other tubs i tried last year and at the start of 2022 was kinda "weak".. like they had some of the same magic if you took like two BIG scoops..

But this red tub was fucking magic. I did a three hour session again today right after dinner. Now i am sitting in my chair and twisting my restless feet at 00:50 past midnight.. no sleep for a while.. i am thinking about going for a run or something.

Looking at my post, i almost sound like that muscleman dude.

:eek::ROFLMAO:
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Thank you for referral lol :unsure:

Some lucky people see reported strong 05/24 tubs as well. @Adamk.

@Adamk did you get som more strong tubs 5/24 or 04/24 tubs?

I took some of last half melted goo of 10/22 yesterday, actually had fight the urge to puke it right back up.
I have gotten more sensitive towards the artificial flavours and sweeteners lately. The mild euphoria from red tub 5/24 is sickening and not enersizing directly but likes some chemically is rolling around in my spine and back of my head.

it is only my alter ego muscleman who actually likes Excelsior.
I have another personality that knows this is a toxic chemical that gives some kinda fake buzz or even worse twisting your personality,
lying to you and make you lie to others about it is just about training or getting things done lol
 
muscleman said:
Thank you for referral lol :unsure:

Some lucky people see reported strong 05/24 tubs as well. @Adamk.

@Adamk did you get som more strong tubs 5/24 or 04/24 tubs?

I took some of last half melted goo of 10/22 yesterday, actually had fight the urge to puke it right back up.
I have gotten more sensitive towards the artificial flavours and sweeteners lately. The mild euphoria from red tub 5/24 is sickening and not enersizing directly but likes some chemically is rolling around in my spine and back of my head.

it is only my alter ego muscleman who actually likes Excelsior.
I have another personality that knows this is a toxic chemical that gives some kinda fake buzz or even worse twisting your personality,
lying to you and make you lie to others about it is just about training or getting things done lol
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I did get a couple of 4/24 but they were trash. I've seen some red tubs floating around the internet with an 6/24 expiration. I've never tried that batch, maybe it's better but I'm not sure where they're coming from.

I did get a couple 5/24 from predator that were pretty good but the odds are not good enough to order again!
 
Adamk said:
I did get a couple of 4/24 but they were trash. I've seen some red tubs floating around the internet with an 6/24 expiration. I've never tried that batch, maybe it's better but I'm not sure where they're coming from.

I did get a couple 5/24 from predator that were pretty good but the odds are not good enough to order again!
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I did get what looked like the same as Frode Falchs 4/24 in my red 5/24 tub from Predator.
It had a clear kind of buzz to it but felt relaxed besides feeling slightly toxic and I would not order again

Congrats anyhow For enjoying your tub...

I am planning to spend more time outside this summer instead of just drinking Excelsior and writing too much in: A temporary suppjunkies diary :)
 
CATdiesel76 said:
yes a really potent extract. Definitely one of the more potent ones I’ve tried. It’s excellent I just try to avoid extracts too often because of how much they seem to increase my tolerance. But it’s probably the best kratom product I’ve ever used
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Yea ill avoid that. Most thing that affect the opioid receptors are fun and all, but become way too addicting. I guess if you can control yourself to a couple times a week max.
Wish they would disclose that on their site instead of trying to hide it in the middle of the label. Someone is bound to get hooked on this. Unless its some non addicting extract that Ive never heard of.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Already have Mitradopa on the way. Hydrazine is something to rotate in on heavy work days every now and then. I rotate multiple things. Mitradopa is not something I’d want to take more than two times a week
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u ever order from Krabot? They have the best Kratom extracts on the market. Mitradopa, I’m sure it was made with good intentions, is a bizarre concoction.
 
Irishobrien said:
u ever order from Krabot? They have the best Kratom extracts on the market. Mitradopa, I’m sure it was made with good intentions, is a bizarre concoction.
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It’s unique yes. Clearly you haven’t tried it or you would see it is beautifully formulated.
 
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