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EvoMuse Presents: Metabolic Rebirth

dsade

dsade

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To coincide with the release of Epitome (yes, they somewhat overlap, but as well they have VERY different functions) we are finally ready to release the 10 year research update on Rebirth.

For the ideal Endormorph stack, you will take a serving of Rebirth upon waking, a serving of Epitome early and late afternoon, and a serving of Rebirth before bed.

Results should bring you extremely rapidly back to your setpoint. Let me warn you, though, that that is where the difficult work kicks in.

Obviously we will have a new logo, but damn don't this bring back some memories.

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So excited for this .. haven't used Leptigen Rebirth since 2004 or 2005 .. but it, along with Keto dieting for the first time, completely changed my life in 2004.

Any idea how far behind Epitome this will be?
 
We literally have 80% of the ingredients already here, and the rest are east to get. It's a race between shipping and Chinese New Year.
 
vasu said:
So excited for this .. haven't used Leptigen Rebirth since 2004 or 2005 .. but it, along with Keto dieting for the first time, completely changed my life in 2004.

Any idea how far behind Epitome this will be?
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Speaking of.....I'm going to play, for 2 weeks, with PAs new Keto Salts, Slintensity, Epitome, and Rebirth.....because why the hell not?
 
dsade said:
Speaking of.....I'm going to play, for 2 weeks, with PAs new Keto Salts, Slintensity, Epitome, and Rebirth.....because why the hell not?
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That would be an insane fat loss stack especially In a keto diet
 
Jackedjack said:
That would be an insane fat loss stack especially In a keto diet
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Once PA told me about the keto salts I had a formula ready to go called KetoInduce (designed to rapidly toss you into ketosis right before bed for a solid 8 hours of fat burning) that would have worked perfectly with Strafe. A couple of the ingredients, though, he had already agreed to license in a combo. bummer.
 
Oh the memories!
 
Jesus. Stop making sht. I seriously want everything you're coming out with. Plus I need to stock up on Gut Health and Myo. ugh
 
Tell you hat, since the dosage is ahout the same we ca offer two stacks: 2 Epitome, or 1 Epitome;1 Rebirth.
 
dsade said:
Tell you hat, since the dosage is ahout the same we ca offer two stacks: 2 Epitome, or 1 Epitome;1 Rebirth.
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For someone like myself <150lbs, my understanding that rebirth + epitome was unnecessary. Is that right?
Because otherwise I agree with Cubs1987...every time I think in stocked there's something new that sounds awesome.
 
Cannot wait.

The original was before I really got into supplements, but I've heard about it many times.

SO MANY SHINY NEW THINGS!!!!
 
Wow sounds awesome. What exactly is the difference between this and Epitome? I'm a bit new to the supplement scene so I don't know what Leptigen Rebirth is/was.
 
ma70 said:
Wow sounds awesome. What exactly is the difference between this and Epitome? I'm a bit new to the supplement scene so I don't know what Leptigen Rebirth is/was.
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Rebirth will dramatically, and quickly, crash your leptin levels at full, strategic dosage 3 times per day pre-meal. It also has potent appetite supressants.Basically it is meant for people with zero self control and am obsessive sense of self-loathing that comes with it that NEEDS to see and feel those dramatic effects.

Epitome has exactly the same dramatic effects without the need for stims, with a MUCH MUCH stronger AMPk signal. You will basically be exercising all day long, with the metabolic benefits, and the rebirth is added at the two end points where temptations to return to bad habits is strongest.

Again, as you approach set point, those cravings will reduce and you can Rebirth altogether.

EDIT for Clarity: Rebirth crashed Leptin levels almost without limit, Epitome brings them into normal range and maintains them there,.
 
dsade said:
Rebirth will dramatically, and quickly, crash your leptin levels at full, strategic dosage 3 times per day pre-meal. It also has potent appetite supressants.Basically it is meant for people with zero self control and am obsessive sense of self-loathing that comes with it that NEEDS to see and feel those dramatic effects.

Epitome has exactly the same dramatic effects without the need for stims, with a MUCH MUCH stronger AMPk signal. You will basically be exercising all day long, with the metabolic benefits, and the rebirth is added at the two end points where temptations to return to bad habits is strongest.

Again, as you approach set point, those cravings will reduce and you can Rebirth altogether.

EDIT for Clarity: Rebirth crashed Leptin levels almost without limit, Epitome brings them into normal range and maintains them there,.
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Interesting. I'll have to read on what Leptin actually does....never really understood it. I know it generally controls satiety/hunger.
 
Much more than that...it tells your body how much bodyfat it has available for fun stuff that requires extra resources (having kids, etc). It's also a self regulating adipostat, which controls its own rate of fat burning,

It's VERY complicated.
 
dsade said:
Much more than that...it tells your body how much bodyfat it has available for fun stuff that requires extra resources (having kids, etc). It's also a self regulating adipostat, which controls its own rate of fat burning,

It's VERY complicated.
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I see. How long in general would someone be able to run these kinds of supplements? 4 weeks? 8 weeks? etc?
 
Do you have a recommendation for stacking epitome and rebirth (ie. Only if above X lbs or consuming above X calories, etc)?
 
You will need to adjust formulas (There will be 4 total) as your bodyfat range changes,

Epitome- obese - morbidly obese, but also sub 12%
REBIRTH - Obese ONlY
MASS -at Setpoint looking to gain lean mass only, hard gainers
Basic (with Epitome) to get you down into single digits and hold it indefinitely
 
dsade said:
You will need to adjust formulas (There will be 4 total) as your bodyfat range changes,

Epitome- obese - morbidly obese, but also sub 12%
REBIRTH - Obese ONlY
MASS -at Setpoint looking to gain lean mass only, hard gainers
Basic (with Epitome) to get you down into single digits and hold it indefinitely
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Interesting. I think I'm around 15%, or slightly under. I've never measured....but I guess Epitome is my only option. Nice.
 
ma70 said:
Interesting. I think I'm around 15%, or slightly under. I've never measured....but I guess Epitome is my only option. Nice.
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That's a classic excuse...if you've never measured, it usually means you are between 40-45%.
 
dsade said:
You will need to adjust formulas (There will be 4 total) as your bodyfat range changes,


Epitome- obese - morbidly obese, but also sub 12%
REBIRTH - Obese ONlY
MASS -at Setpoint looking to gain lean mass only, hard gainers
Basic (with Epitome) to get you down into single digits and hold it indefinitely
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Ok, that's what I thought ... Rebirth was only for heavier individuals.

I'm in the "trying to get sub 10%" group. Would I take a lower dose than an obese person and if so how long will the bottle last me?
 
GNO said:
Do you have a recommendation for stacking epitome and rebirth (ie. Only if above X lbs or consuming above X calories, etc)?
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Best to just follow the dosage recommendation on the bottle. If you want to dial everything in and speed results for Summer, Marc Mcdougal (Depasi) is doing some specials related to the Leptigen series.
 
GNO said:
Ok, that's what I thought ... Rebirth was only for heavier individuals.

I'm in the "trying to get sub 10%" group. Would I take a lower dose than an obese person and if so how long will the bottle last me?
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Are you talking Epitome? Directions are straight across for all bodyfat levels.
 
Like others have said, I want every single product you have been releasing, it's insane.

So just to make sure, Rebirth is for naturally heavier individuals? Also, what if one has been bulking for a while or over indulging thus becoming much heavier than they usually are, would Rebirth be an option?
 
dsade said:
Are you talking Epitome? Directions are straight across for all bodyfat levels.
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Yeah was talking about epitome as I think that's all I need. Want this!
 
GNO said:
Yeah was talking about epitome as I think that's all I need. Want this!
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We'll have a beta basic by May, which will help you out a lot keeping sub8%
 
dsade said:
We'll have a beta basic by May, which will help you out a lot keeping sub8%
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May? &#55357;&#56877;

I was hoping for Feb/March, but I guess you can't rush perfection. You know I'm down for any upfront betas.
 
Would this be ok to use with a sarms triple stack cycle. Havent got a body fat count yet but I know I'm gonna come in high. Im still solid but mid section is a lost cause.
 
joeykid said:
Would this be ok to use with a sarms triple stack cycle. Havent got a body fat count yet but I know I'm gonna come in high. Im still solid but mid section is a lost cause.
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No offense, but if you are going to reference another company's product you're gonna have to post a link.
 
Hey dsade,

So just to make sure, Rebirth is for naturally heavier individuals? Also, what if one has been bulking for a while or over indulging thus becoming much heavier than they usually are, would Rebirth be an option?

Thanks.
 
Im new on these forums and I just dont want to mix things that wont work together. If you tell how to erase the offensive stuff I will. Just message me how to do it. Not trying to promote anyone else sorry.
 
joeykid said:
Im new on these forums and I just dont want to mix things that wont work together. If you tell how to erase the offensive stuff I will. Just message me how to do it. Not trying to promote anyone else sorry.
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It's not offensive, I just have no idea what product what product you are talking about to give you the best advice.
 
dsade said:
It's not offensive, I just have no idea what product what product you are talking about to give you the best advice.
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Rely dont know what you mean by adding a link. Like I daid im new and pretty ignorant on thes things. Im 41 and started with computers late
 
dsade said:
It's not offensive, I just have no idea what product what product you are talking about to give you the best advice.
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Maybe if someone said Folli over MyoSynergy. That's blasphemous!
 
GNO said:
Maybe if someone said Folli over MyoSynergy. That's blasphemous!
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There's nothing offensive about Mick Foley!
 
I'll make an announcement here.
 
joeykid said:
Rely dont know what you mean by adding a link. Like I daid im new and pretty ignorant on thes things. Im 41 and started with computers late
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He means post a link to what your taking. I'll tell him what it is for you. dsade it's a combination of the sarm Ostarine, S-4, and GW (which is technically not a sarm but whatever). Also I saw your facebook post saying that the products cleared customs. Does that mean there is an ETA within the next two months?!
 
So Epitome. What is this madness?
 
dsade said:
Writeup will be done this week.
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Hey dsade,

So just to make sure, Rebirth is for naturally heavier individuals? Also, what if one has been bulking for a while or over indulging thus becoming much heavier than they usually are, would Rebirth be an option?

Thanks.
 
Rodja have you seen this yet?

Bring back some memories eh?
dsade, I'm assuming you've kept in touch with spook & caleb?

Is this gonna function in the same sense leptigen did? Or is there some differences? I imagine ingredients changed but has the goals changer (i.e. different pathways, peripheral targets )

Also I guess I have been out of the loop a bit because this is the first I am hearing of epitome. Can you point me to a writeup to this?
EBF Inc you would prolly appreciate these concepts if you aren't aware of them yet.
 
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