what sidesI gave up. It gives me too many side effects.
what sidesI gave up. It gives me too many side effects.
The 2 most prominent were unrestful sleep/terminal insomnia and water retention. I would feel like I had adrenaline running all night and wake up at 2am unable to go back to sleep. For the record, that happens with everything that lowers cortisol like rhodiola.what sides
What kind of sides did you experience?Most people don’t have any side effects but I get sides from almost everything.
The 2 most prominent were unrestful sleep/terminal insomnia and water retention. I would feel like I had adrenaline running all night and wake up at 2am unable to go back to sleep. For the record, that happens with everything that lowers cortisol like rhodiola.
The 2 most prominent were unrestful sleep/terminal insomnia and water retention. I would feel like I had adrenaline running all night and wake up at 2am unable to go back to sleep. For the record, that happens with everything that lowers cortisol like rhodiola.What kind of sides did you experience?
I know that rhodiola does not agree with me, but I am able to tolerate it with this new version of BMP. However, I wish Matt would remove it! I still have some old BMP around and when I do a 2-3 week cycle, it shines so much better than the new one.The 2 most prominent were unrestful sleep/terminal insomnia and water retention. I would feel like I had adrenaline running all night and wake up at 2am unable to go back to sleep. For the record, that happens with everything that lowers cortisol like rhodiola.
Same here. I could deal with the other side effects like the water retention for the increased strength it provides so quickly, but I need my sleep! And the long term benefits that BMPs should provide are very welcome as well...I know that rhodiola does not agree with me, but I am able to tolerate it with this new version of BMP. However, I wish Matt would remove it! I still have some old BMP around and when I do a 2-3 week cycle, it shines so much better than the new one.
Ever had bloated-ness & gas from it?! I’m trying to work out if it’s BMP causing this! It’s the only logical thing at the moment as I’ve been taking DCP/Brite almost a month without bother!Same here. I could deal with the other side effects like the water retention for the increased strength it provides so quickly, but I need my sleep! And the long term benefits that BMPs should provide are very welcome as well...
Yes I get very gassy the first few weeks but it goes away. It’s worse if I have a big meal so I do smaller meals throughout the day. Although I get pretty bad gas, I don’t feel or look bloated. I also sleep like a baby. I wake up at 6am ready to get going and I’m not a morning person.Ever had bloated-ness & gas from it?! I’m trying to work out if it’s BMP causing this! It’s the only logical thing at the moment as I’ve been taking DCP/Brite almost a month without bother!
I suggest to stop it for a week or so - you will quickly see if and how it was effecting you.Ever had bloated-ness & gas from it?! I’m trying to work out if it’s BMP causing this! It’s the only logical thing at the moment as I’ve been taking DCP/Brite almost a month without bother!
I think BMP may be giving me diarrhea also. Or it's the stack with that and DCP. I've been taking DCP regularly for a couple months with no issues, but just recently started taking BMP too and got really bad diarrhea. Especially after eating or taking both supplements. Not sure if the stack is causing it or if it's something else.Bmp caused not so much bloating but increased water retention for sure. Brite I can only dose once per day before bloating, gas, diarrhea and very soft stools become too much. The million wipe dumps were very annoying, a shower probably would have been more efficient haha
Nope, never had that.Ever had bloated-ness & gas from it?! I’m trying to work out if it’s BMP causing this! It’s the only logical thing at the moment as I’ve been taking DCP/Brite almost a month without bother!
I have to split my Brite dose to 1-2-1 to not be overly effected by all its sides! Bmp I’ll take at 1&1 for next couple of days an maybe drop it from Monday to see how I am.Bmp caused not so much bloating but increased water retention for sure. Brite I can only dose once per day before bloating, gas, diarrhea and very soft stools become too much. The million wipe dumps were very annoying, a shower probably would have been more efficient haha
Yes, 2 caps a day will have a positive effect, but I find anything the gives me these kinds of sides (even 1/2 of them) zaps my performance and gains.Have started and stopped BMP stacked with Anabolic Effect several times because the sides hit me so hard. Fatigue & Sleeplessness (which I already have insomnia). Have used 1 + 1 to try to build up but still affects me...leaves me wiped out. Would it do any good to only use 2 caps pre-workout only per day?
Maybe the absorption enhancers in the new BMP work too well for us...?What's strange is I've used several bottles of Nootrol with Rhodiola Rosea at 10% Salidroside and never noticed any problems.
It could also be the dose.Maybe the absorption enhancers in the new BMP work too well for us...?
Is there more salidrosides in the current version?It could also be the dose.
I meant there is probably a bigger dose of Salidrosides in BMP compared to Nootrol.Is there more salidrosides in the current version?
If your growth plates are closed it won't work. But if they haven't closed it could work.How about for height increase? How wel does this BMP formula help for the BMP's in height growth?
That isn't how it works, BMP-7/OP-1 protein alone has been shown to increase height in adults past age 300, this BMP formula CONSISTS OF FAR MORE bmp than that and it is in a tissue selective manner, bmp-7 converts the soft bone back into MSC's and then height growth can keep going at full force! My full stack is combination of this product and more so this is a very potent formula, well done to the creator of this!If your growth plates are closed it won't work. But if they haven't closed it could work.
what?It was covered in this thread page 99, post #989
Yeah, it does something to my skin as well. Makes it more prone to dryness and irritation. That being said, I can still get by with it and take it at 4 caps.I break out in hives at the recommended dose and 1 cap 2 times daily. I really wanted to give it a go with so many positive reviews, but just not for me.
yes, BMP can increase height even for adults however they need to focus this formula more for chondrogenesis rather than osteogenesis, it can revert inactive growth plates back into mesenchymal stem cells however in terms of BMP-2 the only way to do this is by activating the MAPK signalling pathway when BMP-2 is upregulated and activating sox9 transcriptional factor while inhibiting proteins like noggin, chonrdon,smurf1 etc for bmp-7 it may be another pathway but im sure bmp-2 if activated in correct way can give adults up to 4 inches or more, since this formula already upregulates BMP-2 and other bmp's and activated many chondrogenic marker transcriptional factors i suggest everyone taking this also takes turmeric since that will activate the MAPK pathway and in the presence of that it will stop Runx2 from being activatedSooo... my parents are in for my Birthday Weekend. They live in New York. Probably haven't seen me in about 10 months. I've been on BMP for 9 months give or take...
My step dad met me at the elevator to bring me up to their condo on the beach (in Florida), he's like "Dude, did you get taller? You look taller." and I'm like huh, nah, I probably just slimmed down and it gives the illusion I'm taller...
Then I go up to the condo where my Mom is and she's like "Wow you look good! You look taller!" and this is without them being together or seeing me at the same time. And I'm sitting there like, wait....I remembered I'm in BMP but still skeptical.
So I go home and flatten my hair and take my shoes off and line up against the wall on a flat surface, I've always been 5'10 exactly. I am now 5'10.5 inches tall.
Is this real life?
EDIT: I AM 39.
I swear I’ve shot up a half inch as well in the past year, and I’m 48. No joke.yes, BMP can increase height even for adults however they need to focus this formula more for chondrogenesis rather than osteogenesis, it can revert inactive growth plates back into mesenchymal stem cells however in terms of BMP-2 the only way to do this is by activating the MAPK signalling pathway when BMP-2 is upregulated and activating sox9 transcriptional factor while inhibiting proteins like noggin, chonrdon,smurf1 etc for bmp-7 it may be another pathway but im sure bmp-2 if activated in correct way can give adults up to 4 inches or more, since this formula already upregulates BMP-2 and other bmp's and activated many chondrogenic marker transcriptional factors i suggest everyone taking this also takes turmeric since that will activate the MAPK pathway and in the presence of that it will stop Runx2 from being activated
idk bro... any good organic turmeric, i get it straight from India when I go there so I make sure it is goodI swear I’ve shot up a half inch as well in the past year, and I’m 48. No joke.
What brand of turmeric would you recommend?
Are you sure about that 0.5 inch growth? Not doubting you but it could be a measurement error. Try checking your height again on evening to see if the height is same. Sometimes height can fluctuate and people waking up are usually taller from spinal decompression in the morning time (right after waking up)Sooo... my parents are in for my Birthday Weekend. They live in New York. Probably haven't seen me in about 10 months. I've been on BMP for 9 months give or take...
My step dad met me at the elevator to bring me up to their condo on the beach (in Florida), he's like "Dude, did you get taller? You look taller." and I'm like huh, nah, I probably just slimmed down and it gives the illusion I'm taller...
Then I go up to the condo where my Mom is and she's like "Wow you look good! You look taller!" and this is without them being together or seeing me at the same time. And I'm sitting there like, wait....I remembered I'm in BMP but still skeptical.
So I go home and flatten my hair and take my shoes off and line up against the wall on a flat surface, I've always been 5'10 exactly. I am now 5'10.5 inches tall.
Is this real life?
EDIT: I AM 39.
Any eta on the toothpaste? I would like to see if it could help refill a fractured tooth that I have been told I will eventually need a crown on.As long as you understand that I can only answer hypothetically....
Hypothetically, yes, it can help with the proper stimulus - just like the BMP toothpaste that I am putting together will, hypothetically, refill damaged teeth.
I’m positive. I did it like around 5pm.Are you sure about that 0.5 inch growth? Not doubting you but it could be a measurement error. Try checking your height again on evening to see if the height is same. Sometimes height can fluctuate and people waking up are usually taller from spinal decompression in the morning time (right after waking up)
nice one bro!I’m positive. I did it like around 5pm.
nohas anyone heard from @dsade ?
He posted Epitome update on FB today
Unfortunately it rarely is. I wish he would get the proper assistance to run this company properly. Best products out thereHis latest Facebook update is not to promising
I find this hard to believe. Water and Fat (recomp) melted off me in about 2 weeks. Face bloat vanished. Everyone I knew noticed and pointed out this change.I was reading through this thread and saw some people are having side effects of water retention? How common is this with BMP? Why would BMP cause that?
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