Ephedrine Sulfate/HCl experiment

[dsade]

For those interested in trying a little experiment, I am getting an excellent but not overwhelming (anxiety-wise) reaction.

12.5 mg E Sulfate
12.5 mg E HCl
200mg caffeine

Never kicks in TOO hard like E HCl, and doesn't cause that weird draining feeling like pure E Sulfate. Perfect blend for me, that seems to last a good 6 hours without a harsh drop.

Fatloss is decent as well.

 

[Flaw]

HCI does seem to be stronger and more effective then the sulfate version but the 200mg caffeine alone could be the culprit for that harsh drop. I find that ephedrine can give a nice clean energy when taken correctly but caffeine always leads to a crash at some point. I could see how the sulfate version could take some edge off because it's not as strong.

 

[dsade]

HCI does seem to be stronger and more effective then the sulfate version but the 200mg caffeine alone could be the culprit for that harsh drop. I find that ephedrine can give a nice clean energy when taken correctly but caffeine always leads to a crash at some point. I could see how the sulfate version could take some edge off because it's not as strong.

I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.

 

[Flaw]

I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.

That's a long time bro! Your cortisol output might be limited and that's why your feeling some anxiety. It happens. The body tells us when something is wrong. I know many friends who suddenly become sensitive to stimulants over time or suddenly feel anxiety out of nowhere. I guess it's just life getting to us and the stims don't help cause they decrease our ability to deal with stress when over used. You may have finally reached a point where u need some recovery time from stims.

 

[MAxximal]

I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.

1995-2010 in a ROW?

 

[MAxximal]

I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.

maybe not is for you "just getting old" IMO works better on OBESE PEOPLE and you not obese

 

[dsade]

1995-2010 in a ROW?

Gimme a break. Talking about regular cycling.

 

[MAxximal]

I use:

12.5 mg E Sulfate
200mg caffeine
AlphaBurn

3x day and WOW...........not feel the crash

 

[nattydisaster]

Smart thinkin D

 

[Bnatural]

not a bad lil trio you've got here d

 

[MAxximal]

Until arrives my Alpha-T2...............sweet

 

[thebigt]

I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.

at 39 you aren't old, but i sure did have some mileage racked up at that age, lol. cutting weight down to 200 or less has become my priority. gonna do 1 bronkaid in morning and 1 afternoon stacked with nattys alpha-t2 and 1 adipox v2.

 

[MAxximal]

at 39 you aren't old, but i sure did have some mileage racked up at that age, lol. cutting weight down to 200 or less has become my priority. gonna do 1 bronkaid in morning and 1 afternoon stacked with nattys alpha-t2 and 1 adipox v2.

you mean Adipoxil V2....?

 

[thebigt]

you mean Adipoxil V2....?

no, adipo-x v2 by axis. but i have heard good things about the other.
started this stack yesterday.

 

[MAxximal]

no, adipo-x v2 by axis. but i have heard good things about the other.
started this stack yesterday.

i only used the first version and IMO was AND is the BEST

 

[thebigt]

i only used the first version and IMO was AND is the BEST

getting decent results, i like the smooth energy. the alpha t-2 and bronkaid definitely gave it a boost. plus with the hemodraulix it's very good.

 

[nattydisaster]

getting decent results, i like the smooth energy. the alpha t-2 and bronkaid definitely gave it a boost. plus with the hemodraulix it's very good.

Very good news

 

[dsade]

The difference is night and day.

Anyone else with this combo yet? VERY subtle, but sustained energy with this blend of salts. Seems odd that it would be this dramatically different.

The sulfate is a bit more expensive, unfortunately.

 

[nattydisaster]

The difference is night and day.

Anyone else with this combo yet? VERY subtle, but sustained energy with this blend of salts. Seems odd that it would be this dramatically different.

The sulfate is a bit more expensive, unfortunately.

What OTC products contain the sulfate?

 

[dsade]

What OTC products contain the sulfate?

Bronk-Aid is the only one I've found. $12.99 for 60 at Walgreen's.

 

[nattydisaster]

Ahh ok. I get the "walgreens bronchial asthma relief". I believe it is the HCl

 

[dsade]

Ahh ok. I get the "walgreens bronchial asthma relief". I believe it is the HCl

Yep, that is the little yellow ones...the HCl, which hit me HARD.

I've been using 12.5 of the sulfate with 12.5 of the HCl (one white, one yellow) and been thoroughly impressed with the lack of anxiety combined with a seeming enhancement of lipolysis.

 

[thebigt]

Yep, that is the little yellow ones...the HCl, which hit me HARD.

I've been using 12.5 of the sulfate with 12.5 of the HCl (one white, one yellow) and been thoroughly impressed with the lack of anxiety combined with a seeming enhancement of lipolysis.

i been taking 1 bronkaid/2 adipox v2/2 alpha t2 pre workout and thinking of upping it to 2 bronkaid.

 

[MAxximal]

Yep, that is the little yellow ones...the HCl, which hit me HARD.

I've been using 12.5 of the sulfate with 12.5 of the HCl (one white, one yellow) and been thoroughly impressed with the lack of anxiety combined with a seeming enhancement of lipolysis.

both 3 times day?:AR15firing:

 

[Bnatural]

I may have to order some more soon, worked fairly well