Emergency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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soontobbeast
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I cannot believe the safety aspect hasn't been mentioned
did you explain what the SERM was for and how important it is? did you tell them if you don't take the SERM you risk heart disease, possible lifelong HRT, and gyno ?
What kind of ****ty parents ( no offense) would willfully subject their kids to possible lifelong health and social problems so that their will is fulfilled?
Its like not letting your kid go to the emergency room when they are grounded.
They might not like what you're doing but the LEAST they could do is protect you ( or allow you to protect yourself) this time and request that you don't take steroids until you are out of the house.
did you explain what the SERM was for and how important it is? did you tell them if you don't take the SERM you risk heart disease, possible lifelong HRT, and gyno ?
What kind of ****ty parents ( no offense) would willfully subject their kids to possible lifelong health and social problems so that their will is fulfilled?
Its like not letting your kid go to the emergency room when they are grounded.
They might not like what you're doing but the LEAST they could do is protect you ( or allow you to protect yourself) this time and request that you don't take steroids until you are out of the house.
poopypants
Banned
Omg im glad that gamer kid is banned, what a prick.
Im only 26..... But I moved out at 18, moved out of state and then from state to state at 19 for work, at 22 I met my ex wife, at 23i had my kid, at 24 I got divorced and have been continuing to raise my kid now for another 3 years....
If you are 21 and still at home cool, good way to get through college and get a good ass job, not gonna knock it..... But sorry you dont do **** for growing up living at home and miss out on a considerable amount of life experiences and lessons that someone else might be getting out in the real world.....
Age at a certain point is not a factor, knowledge is not a factor, wisdom IS a factor and the wisest people know that they dont KNOW every thing at 20, 30, 40, 50..... But I'd sure as hell listen to what they have to say and listen up reeeeaaaaalll good, they are essentially your future and your their past.... I think they could give you a tip or two.
If you think other wise, then you sir are a fool.
I know you guys want to say they can't open your mail blah blah blah..... well kid show me what you got in the mail, open it in front of me or kick rocks.... See how fast your logic fails?
Respect your folks wishes, they did everything in their might to put food in your undeserving lil mouth every day of your life, have you a place to sleep, took you to school to learn to be productive for yourself, bought you clothes and likely alot more stuff just for the sake of your happiness for the last 20 years.... You want to do something they don't approve of? Get a job, get your own place, get a life of your own THEN YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, ITS ON YOU!
This thread has turned into a pile of bs, can't believe the disrespect some people show their own parents...
Im only 26..... But I moved out at 18, moved out of state and then from state to state at 19 for work, at 22 I met my ex wife, at 23i had my kid, at 24 I got divorced and have been continuing to raise my kid now for another 3 years....
If you are 21 and still at home cool, good way to get through college and get a good ass job, not gonna knock it..... But sorry you dont do **** for growing up living at home and miss out on a considerable amount of life experiences and lessons that someone else might be getting out in the real world.....
Age at a certain point is not a factor, knowledge is not a factor, wisdom IS a factor and the wisest people know that they dont KNOW every thing at 20, 30, 40, 50..... But I'd sure as hell listen to what they have to say and listen up reeeeaaaaalll good, they are essentially your future and your their past.... I think they could give you a tip or two.
If you think other wise, then you sir are a fool.
I know you guys want to say they can't open your mail blah blah blah..... well kid show me what you got in the mail, open it in front of me or kick rocks.... See how fast your logic fails?
Respect your folks wishes, they did everything in their might to put food in your undeserving lil mouth every day of your life, have you a place to sleep, took you to school to learn to be productive for yourself, bought you clothes and likely alot more stuff just for the sake of your happiness for the last 20 years.... You want to do something they don't approve of? Get a job, get your own place, get a life of your own THEN YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, ITS ON YOU!
This thread has turned into a pile of bs, can't believe the disrespect some people show their own parents...
DAdams91982
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Amen!
Trauma1
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duke66
Member
Agreed with^^^this! Additionally, children or adult children make nothing "clear" to their parents. Your logic fails as soon as they say leave; is that clear? Oh and for the record parents are required to know what is in the mail of their children because we are legally responsible for them. That law does not apply. Some states that goes to 21. And for the older children, good luck finding a prosecutor that would do anything in this case, silly.
drinkyboy
Well-known member
I am very greatful that i have an open relationship with my parents and i can talk to them about anything and everything. Family will be there through thick n thin so its wise to keep them close because in the end there all you have. My time in Iraq back in 04 only strengthened our relationships. A few close calls and watching your friends pass really makes you stop and take a bigger look at life and whats important...just some food for thought.
EasyEJL
Never enough
If you are an adult, you provide for yourself. If you aren't providing for yourself, you are still a child. If you can't manage to work enough to pay for your own place, you don't work enough to be wasting your money on steroids for fun either.
DAdams91982
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Yup.. difference of culture. Live under my roof, and live by my rules.
Kristofer68SS
Well-known member
Agree to a point.
Pay rent and tell them to stay out of your room, respect your property(mail).
or
live for free and STFU.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Why? So we can see people who live with mommy and daddy because they can't make it on their own because their countries economies suck? Or because their government taxes them to death? I'll pass.
DAdams91982
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I have been across the globe...
DAdams91982
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I can get on board with that idea. Until my kid orders something and I get a controlled delivery and I sign for it only to be cuffed. Cause they cuff the person that signs for it. Interesting huh?
Get a damn PO Box! That way when you order Research Chemicals to ingest (Illegal), you are the one with the problems. (Not directed at you Kris!
)
DAdams91982
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Oh, and let's get your idea of other cultures straight. There is no inherient privacy in other family models, America has probably the most naturally gifted privacy there is, other family models are much more open and no unsuggested privacy is expected.
Seen it in Japan, Germany, Italy, France. Now the Auzzies were different, they would be the type to fight back, till their dad beat their ass into submission.
Jasen
Well-known member
w.e. Either way u go back to same thought of awww you staying with mommy and daddy loll, cuz you seem to think unless someones lives alone they are not adult. Is one thing to visit the globe its another to live there for a period of time WITH ppl of that culture in your household. Usa taxes ****load to everything has tax in usa. Diff cultures have diff expectations but ask anyone from another country who visited usa they will tell u american culture the ppl are very distant from another. And I don't mean that in bad way. Just some stories I hear from my american friends I could never picture them happening. Like parents forcing child to pay rent or kicking them out of house. I just had a convo with my gf who is from eastern europe even she is still shocked at certain differences between european families and american, like in usa its common for child to just move across country and see family every few years, imo that's sad.... (i don't mean to insult any culture our belifes I'm just pointing out diff cultures have diff out looks on life not evey culture is based on american belief of what it is to be adult)
EasyEJL
Never enough
See here again you are taking a morally superior attitude about your culture vs ours. Here we value independence, and if you have to live with someone else then you aren't independent. Your way is ridiculous, as its a joke to have the person who owns and pays for the house to not be able to set house rules as well. To me that's roughly equivalent to having no testicles.
Jasen
Well-known member
I understand setting rules, but there has to be space to argue certain things that seem unfair. I don't mean to make it sound like one culture is more superior than other, just different culture have diffetent ways of living. There is no right or wrong universal way, every one has there own opinion same how I think its my way our hwy approach is wrong and cause the child to have resentment towards parents.
EasyEJL
Never enough
You think that, because its foreign to your culture. Here, I was itching to turn 18, and have my independence. And it was entirely my expectations that had I stayed at home under any circumstance other than me being a full time student that there was no reason for my parents to continue to support me in any financial way. Similarly, the original poster brought risk of his parents getting arrested into the home, not something an adult does.
poopypants
Banned
So play this out hypothetically....
You DO turn the home of your parents into a crack house, bring in illegal drugs (which aas and serms are here usa), or cause discontent via telling your parent off trying to run their home....
What is your idea of the socially acceptable response of parents in your country....
Now don't tell "me we talk about it", dude we talk about it too, namely by laying down guidelines in the first place with repercussions and consequences in the same convo. This is an out right situation, where, say the kid (young adult) is a chronic violator of these terms and refuses to comply....
I know you guys don't just keep talking indefinitely now do you?
Ya dude, I promise you MANY american homes aren't much diff then your own, mutual respect is expected and given... The topic discussed in this thread is about what we would do, as his parents have done, when this mutual respect issue is breached.... Your telling me there's no such thing as kicking out someone who does such a thing and then refuses to desist such actions.... Doubtful
If so our countries and societies really are different and thank goodness we broke off from the old country long ago and reestablished a new status quo for independence both at home and as a whole....
You DO turn the home of your parents into a crack house, bring in illegal drugs (which aas and serms are here usa), or cause discontent via telling your parent off trying to run their home....
What is your idea of the socially acceptable response of parents in your country....
Now don't tell "me we talk about it", dude we talk about it too, namely by laying down guidelines in the first place with repercussions and consequences in the same convo. This is an out right situation, where, say the kid (young adult) is a chronic violator of these terms and refuses to comply....
I know you guys don't just keep talking indefinitely now do you?
Ya dude, I promise you MANY american homes aren't much diff then your own, mutual respect is expected and given... The topic discussed in this thread is about what we would do, as his parents have done, when this mutual respect issue is breached.... Your telling me there's no such thing as kicking out someone who does such a thing and then refuses to desist such actions.... Doubtful
If so our countries and societies really are different and thank goodness we broke off from the old country long ago and reestablished a new status quo for independence both at home and as a whole....
Jasen
Well-known member
..... i dont stash my AAS in parents home = respect.
this whole convo has gotten twisted outside the original conversation all i pointed out is that for some culutres it is norm for child to stay in longer or until marriege somehow this convo turned into culuture bashin LMFAO. every culutre has it's up and downs. u guys need to calm down loll.
this whole convo has gotten twisted outside the original conversation all i pointed out is that for some culutres it is norm for child to stay in longer or until marriege somehow this convo turned into culuture bashin LMFAO. every culutre has it's up and downs. u guys need to calm down loll.
Dirty music
Member
tl;dr
but if my mom would have tried that **** with me i would roid raged on her
but if my mom would have tried that **** with me i would roid raged on her
poopypants
Banned
I wasn't bashing merely stating an opinion, in fact an opinion that was only made given a certain stipulation was met.....
I'm happy i live here in america if it really is that hard to establish your independence in foreign countries, especially if parents are willing to be negligent and not instill those ideals in their children
My opinion
poopypants
Banned
You sir either have a sick sense of sarcastic humor, which I like, or are an enormous piece of troll dung
Kristofer68SS
Well-known member
too many hypotheticals going on in here.
i would be willing to bet a left nut, no parent is going to jail over some tamox or rc's for that matter.
especially if they just signed the package that was addressed to their child
I will take a very very very large bet on this....
Payment will be made with hypothetical money of course.
lmao.
i would be willing to bet a left nut, no parent is going to jail over some tamox or rc's for that matter.
especially if they just signed the package that was addressed to their child
I will take a very very very large bet on this....
Payment will be made with hypothetical money of course.
lmao.
Machwon1
Active member
Well I hav two weeks left of epi at 40mg and 50mg. I gained about 16lbs soo far. While on jus epi I been leaning out hardening up. But still no serm!!!! I don't feel shutdown at all being on hcgeneratre... Which I'm glad I had. So I'm gonna talk to my dad today to see if I can get him yo give me y stuff back. If not OTC it is unfourtually 
but it will be tcf-1 first 12 days sustain alpha forma-stanzol and gains keeper which has bromo and atd
but it will be tcf-1 first 12 days sustain alpha forma-stanzol and gains keeper which has bromo and atd
DAdams91982
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No, you are probably right.. but that doesn't change the fact that the liability is now theirs. A fine might be more in the question.
soontobbeast
Well-known member
the bottom line is they shouldn't be so damn nosey
its ok for them to not like it and fear for your safety. i get that.
i also get parents not wanting their kids to do recreational drugs in their
house or smoke.
but performance enhancing drugs don't change the environment of the house.
you might not have a ''right'' to do what you want but if they aren't
scumbags they should have a reason for objecting and stopping you from
doing something you really wanna do.
its ok for them to not like it and fear for your safety. i get that.
i also get parents not wanting their kids to do recreational drugs in their
house or smoke.
but performance enhancing drugs don't change the environment of the house.
you might not have a ''right'' to do what you want but if they aren't
scumbags they should have a reason for objecting and stopping you from
doing something you really wanna do.
soontobbeast
Well-known member
geekpoop just equated bringing crack into the house ( and smoking it i guess?) is the same as taking 1 nolva tab before you go to bed to stop you from getting gyno and making sure your endocrine system doesnt get permanently jacked up.
and what are these other guys talking about at 18 you are an adult?
all of a sudden since i graduated highschool now i'm responsibile for everything?
if my parents would have kicked me out when i was 18 cause now '' im old enough '', i would never speak to them again. why? because they don't love you. they don't give a flying F about your safety quality of life or future. they just '' dont wanna pay no mo''.
if they kick you out at 18-20 how in the hell can you go to college if you're working all damn day to pay for your rent and/or car note?
and what are these other guys talking about at 18 you are an adult?
all of a sudden since i graduated highschool now i'm responsibile for everything?
if my parents would have kicked me out when i was 18 cause now '' im old enough '', i would never speak to them again. why? because they don't love you. they don't give a flying F about your safety quality of life or future. they just '' dont wanna pay no mo''.
if they kick you out at 18-20 how in the hell can you go to college if you're working all damn day to pay for your rent and/or car note?
TipTopShape
Member
i agree to gamer2b80. its still federal offense
EasyEJL
Never enough
And spending money on and taking steroids is so terribly important if you can't even manage to earn enough to cover your own living expenses?
DAdams91982
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oh, damn. That one hurt me just reading it.
soontobbeast
Well-known member
LOL hes 22. why the hell are we talking about money and self sufficiency? at 22 if you went balls to wall taking 15 hours EVERY semester, passing every class and not taking any extra courses, he would just be graduating.
thankfully my dad was never the type to ever ''remind me who is paying for stuff''. my parents have never used money as leverage on me once. they arent douche bags. in turn, i never disrespected my parents aside from arguments about going out late,excessive drinking, etc
if you're in college and you are doing good, you are working toward being self sufficient. until then you work part time, pay for your own food if youre working out, and spend the rest of your time on hobbies ( AAS) and studying.
i don't think its the 300$ one would spend every 7 months or so on a cycle that is holding one back from being able to lease your own apartment and pay 800+ per month plus utilities plus car note and insurance every single month etc etc etc.
whether he spends 50$ a month for beer for 7 months or spends 300$ one time is of no consequence to his living arrangement.
yall are acting like he is a 30 year old college drop out and he should be living on his own if he wants to spend any money on himself.
DAdams91982
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Tomahawk88
Well-known member
I gets laughs from all this
Not a typo error that is really how the thought came in my head.
Not a typo error that is really how the thought came in my head.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Sure, every parent should expect to support their kid to the tune of $15-20 thousand dollars a year of college costs for 4 or 5 years while the kids spend time and energy on vanity (and break laws in the process), and are too lazy to make it on their own. No wonder kids act so spoiled nowadays, and expect a free ride from the government too once they graduate. "Why aren't there more jobs for biological anthropology researchers" "Why should I have to pay for healthcare" etc
soontobbeast
Well-known member
are you retarded? i just explained in detail why the negligible amount spent on supplements is not the obstruction to independence.
you keep saying '' too lazy to make it on their own''. why don't you tell me how kids can work 40 hours a week ( if they can even get a full time job paying enough to cover all of the expenses of living alone with no real experience ), go to school 3-4 days a week AND find time to do papers,assignments, and study.
enough of this bull**** dialogue, i want YOU the obvious super hero of independence and finance to tell the kids how its done. hell you should write a book .
i just want you to tell me wtf you are talking about. none of it makes sense. this hypothetical bull**** you keep saying
DAdams91982
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I somehow worked a full time, a part time, and went to school 3 days a week. Accrued all my own loans, and paid them all off myself somehow.
That's the problem, the lackadaisical attitude of "I can't".
EasyEJL
Never enough
Are you retarded or just another lazy ass punk kid? I guess both. I worked full time and still went to school, paid my own way, and managed to do my assignments. The fact that punks want someone to make it all easy for them, so they have enough time for texting and facebook is just a sad reminder of how this country sinks lower generation by generation. "Mommy and daddy take care of me" just turns into "Government take care of me"
Its going to be a really weak United States in another 20-30 years. 25th in science out of 30 developed nations, 21st in math, but #1 in confidence. Thats America's children today, all confidence and bluster, but nothing to back it up with.
soontobbeast
Well-known member
good job man. you did it all on your own.
im glad you did it. but not everyone wants to or has to.
not all of us hated our parents and want to move out asafp.
DAdams91982
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I never hated my parents, in fact they were fantastic. But I could make it on my own and not put the financial burden on them that they didn't need. Coming from a pretty poor home, maybe it instilled hard work to do better instead of riding the easy train.