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EcdyMorph

Just got in my new batches of EcdyMorph two nights ago, funny how opened those boxes gives me chills and make me fist pump in the air like I just won a championship. I've got some catching up to do in my Journal! (Below in my sig)
 
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Just got in my new batches of EcdyMorph two nights ago, funny how opened those boxes gives me chills and make me fist pump in the air like I just won a championship. I've got some catching up to do in my Journal! (Below in my sig)
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I'm jealous lol
 
Just heard from the lab...


>99% purity
26.3mg/capsule Ecdymorph(TM)
90 capsules/container

I will post up the COA's on Monday when I receive them(was verified over the phone)
 
VaughnTrue said:
Just heard from the lab...


>99% purity
26.3mg/capsule Ecdymorph(TM)
90 capsules/container

I will post up the COA's on Monday when I receive them(was verified over the phone)
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Can you give the lab my address so they can just ship me some lol

:lol:
 
Bragger! LOLOL :p

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Just got in my new batches of EcdyMorph two nights ago, funny how opened those boxes gives me chills and make me fist pump in the air like I just won a championship. I've got some catching up to do in my Journal! (Below in my sig)
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Absolutely. Testabolan v2 increases free testosterone which will show even more pronounced effects from the increased anabolism of the ecdymorph
 
No expert here but some things I notice about all the studies on 20E:
Effective? yes. Safe? yes, even at relatively high doses. Method of dosing? INJECTED.
The Russians injected it and got good results. It seems that the oral availability isn't high enough to make it economical for the average bb to dose high enough to see results. Perhaps the high purity of this product will allow more effective dosing, but it is unlikely that the results seen in the studies being sited will be experienced by users of orally administered ecdy :(

That being said... all we can do is keep trying! I do believe ecdy is the answer. We just need the masterminds of the supplement industry to find and effective delivery method!
 
swan1209 said:
No expert here but some things I notice about all the studies on 20E:
Effective? yes. Safe? yes, even at relatively high doses. Method of dosing? INJECTED.
The Russians injected it and got good results. It seems that the oral availability isn't high enough to make it economical for the average bb to dose high enough to see results. Perhaps the high purity of this product will allow more effective dosing, but it is unlikely that the results seen in the studies being sited will be experienced by users of orally administered ecdy :(

That being said... all we can do is keep trying! I do believe ecdy is the answer. We just need the masterminds of the supplement industry to find and effective delivery method!
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I really do need to make that Russian Star protocol of EcdyMorph for injection... hmmm...
 
swan1209 said:
No expert here but some things I notice about all the studies on 20E:
Effective? yes. Safe? yes, even at relatively high doses. Method of dosing? INJECTED.
The Russians injected it and got good results. It seems that the oral availability isn't high enough to make it economical for the average bb to dose high enough to see results. Perhaps the high purity of this product will allow more effective dosing, but it is unlikely that the results seen in the studies being sited will be experienced by users of orally administered ecdy :(

That being said... all we can do is keep trying! I do believe ecdy is the answer. We just need the masterminds of the supplement industry to find and effective delivery method!
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Wont the use of grapefruit juice be able to help increase the oral bio-availablity and absorbtion?
 
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This would be a great refresher!!! Have human specific oral studies been done on EcdyMorph or Turkesterone?
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Im getting as much info as possible from the owner of EcdyMorph tonight/tomorrow.


There isn't a huge amount of info on anything in this industry in regards to human testing except for creatine + protein studies. The vast majority unfortunately ends up being from viewing other peoples results in their logs.


Any/all human studies I can get a hold of will be posted.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Im getting as much info as possible from the owner of EcdyMorph tonight/tomorrow.


There isn't a huge amount of info on anything in this industry in regards to human testing except for creatine + protein studies. The vast majority unfortunately ends up being from viewing other peoples results in their logs.


Any/all human studies I can get a hold of will be posted.
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Excellent, so Sirovi is providing all the studies? I can't wait. Thanks.
 
I'd love to see those as well VaughnTrue. Luckily I'm a college student so I have access to a lot of the journal articles. I've been keeping an eye on ecdysterones for a while now and while I strongly believe in there potential benefits, the results of oral ingestion just don't seem to match that of the studies using injection. That's not to say a little help is better than none. But there must be a way to get this stuff to work well orally! As for grapefruit juice, I am unaware of anything stating why or how it would help. Personally can't think of a reason why either... Jayice, what do you know that i don't bro? Hook us up with a link to where you found that info if you could be so kind.
 
Anyone tried LG's Sub Ecdy? sublingual might work? Although I have heard that the molecule is fairly large and might be difficult to carry across membrane. Anyone with insight?
 
swan1209 said:
Anyone tried LG's Sub Ecdy? sublingual might work? Although I have heard that the molecule is fairly large and might be difficult to carry across membrane. Anyone with insight?
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One of the co-owners of Legal Gear just left the company and made a detailed post about his intentions to release that product.
 
Here is some of the info I promised you guys...more to come asap.


Attachment #1 : Ecdysteroids Mammals.pdf

Key places to note:

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Attachment #3 - Ecdy INC MPS.pdf

Key notes:

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I will post up all I am able to get my hands on ;)
 

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COA is back from the lab...can't wait to get these to you guys!


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Servings per container: 90
Per Serving: Label: 25mg(Actual: 26.3mg) EcdyMorph(TM) >99% purity
 
so what's the eta for this at nutraplanet?

also will there be a promo with other stacks? i'd like to run blueprint with this and testabolan.
 
trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
 
VaughnTrue said:
trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
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off topic, but you gonna have aim while you're out in cali?
 
VaughnTrue said:
trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
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thanks for the update vaughn.

i'm very interested in this - i'll pick up some when it goes to nutraplanet
 
I know this is my first post but please hang in there with me. Im just getting back into the game after a year and half after tearing my shoulder all apart from lifting. My size and most of my strength is gone so im slowly working my way back up there. By know means was as bad azz as you all here and my supplement knowledge is sub par after digging through this sweet forum. So I guess I have to start somewhere as all of you did on this matter of supplements. what would be the perfect stack for me to take getting back into the swing of things. The reason I posted here is because it seems like I would want to include the long waited for Ecdy into my life. Or to soon? Thanks for the help all and patience.
 
Ecdy is one of those products that looks great on paper and in animals but doesn't translate to significant results in humans. I heard that the Russians injected it and in animals studies it is often injected. I assume most gets destroying in the digestive process. I have been interested in this product for years because of it's potential health benefits. I have even megadosed without success.
 
I brought the idea of poor oral availability up a few posts back. The only evidence I have found regarding success with oral ingestion was from a anecdotal report I read a while back of a people who drink a blended juice/tea type drink of Rhaponticum Carthamoides. This plant provides a wide spectrum of ecdysteroids, not just 20E, or turk or any isolated ecdy. This idea was taken from animals, a technique used by humans since the beginning of time. We observe other animals eating something and then try it out. Anyway its said that the caribous in Siberia graze on the Rhaponticum Carthamoides. Observing this, humans tried it and observed an adaptogenic effect with increases in "vitality" and "well being" much like those documented with rhodiola rosea. It makes sense that putting your body in a state of high stress tolerance would increase your chances of building muscle. So for those of us who have some farm land and can grow this stuff and eat it like salads, this is great news. For the other 99 percent of us, perhaps the isolation of protein synthesis stimulating ecdysteroids and proper delivery of these isolated compounds could be effective in large and frequent doses as the half life of ecdy is short to my knowledge. So in my opinion a highly purified doses in large enough quantities to deliver effective amounts to the blood stream (not sure what that is) taken in frequent doses should, in theory, have the desired effects.

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swan1209 said:
I brought the idea of poor oral availability up a few posts back.

...perhaps the isolation of protein synthesis stimulating ecdysteroids and proper delivery of these isolated compounds could be effective in large and frequent doses as the half life of ecdy is short to my knowledge.
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I dose EcdyMorph throughout the day, even kept a bottle in my desk to ensure I didn't miss a dosage (since the half life is so short ~30min I've heard). Also, I take a whole gaggle of oral absorption enhancers as well.
 
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I dose EcdyMorph throughout the day, even kept a bottle in my desk to ensure I didn't miss a dosage (since the half life is so short ~30min I've heard). Also, I take a whole gaggle of oral absorption enhancers as well.
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Have you had success with this?
 
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