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EcdyMorph

x2 hope this is the permanent price. im not sure whether to stock up now or wait and get and see how it compares to ebol, which is my only standard of comparison
 
F500 always seems to be under 20$ every once in a while I notice it jumps to 25 but I believe it's like 16$ now and the intro price was 19.99 lol
 
I think the HIGHEST it will be is $25. NP has exclusive rights on it for now, but after we open it up I'd expect the price to stay under $20 for good(hopefully).


NP is my favorite vendor to work with by far. The owners are AMAZING guys who really care about getting you guys iForce for less money than anyone else will.


The ONLY place I order products from is NP now.
 
I will be taking ECDY myself, ordered 4 bottles, but I'm wondering if it is safe for females to take in case I want to pass it along.
 
Insaniac said:
But for the same price??????
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The next time NP puts it up, it should be at the same price. The sale price won't last forever, but you should have an oppurtunity to grab some more later this week :)

sapentia said:
I will be taking ECDY myself, ordered 4 bottles, but I'm wondering if it is safe for females to take in case I want to pass it along.
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100% safe in women.
 
VaughnTrue said:
The next time NP puts it up, it should be at the same price. The sale price won't last forever, but you should have an oppurtunity to grab some more later this week :)
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Im gonna be so mad if i go back to get more and its like $25
 
Oh Ive taken 5 caps today. Gonna do one more before bed. So $40/month. Just wanna test the limits before I go buy some more.
 
tnubs said:
Oh Ive taken 5 caps today. Gonna do one more before bed. So $40/month. Just wanna test the limits before I go buy some more.
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keep us updated on how you feel on it please! Really want to know if I should get some more when it comes back in stock. I'm on-cycle right now so I won't be able to judge for myself for a while.
 
VaughnTrue said:
100% safe in women.
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Awesome! Aside from the GF; it occurred to me this might be a good supp. for more elderly people who typically suffer from muscle wasting and often fat accumulation. I oversee my parents (64 and 65 y/o) supplement regimen - longevity supplementation that is, not bodybuilding.

So what is your take on ECDY as a supp. to combat the natural muscle wasting seen in older individuals? Would this be safe and do you think it could be a permanent staple at a lower dose?, like 25mg/day?
 
sapentia said:
Awesome! Aside from the GF; it occurred to me this might be a good supp. for more elderly people who typically suffer from muscle wasting and often fat accumulation. I oversee my parents (64 and 65 y/o) supplement regimen - longevity supplementation that is, not bodybuilding.

So what is your take on ECDY as a supp. to combat the natural muscle wasting seen in older individuals? Would this be safe and do you think it could be a permanent staple at a lower dose?, like 25mg/day?
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Even tho ecdysterones are safe, they wont be very effective in people who are sedentary. If they are active they will likely not have these problems in the first place, but ecdy would help. Ecdysterone is basically just an adaptogen which has a nice effect of improving recovery and some other things but u have to give it a stimulus to help it adapt to in the first place, in the case of most, a more intense workout.
 
Tnubs brings up good/valid points but perhaps this link adds some additional insight with respect to this interesting subject as the study was not based on activity.

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I think ECD could have its place here. Maybe. That siad, I still believe the most proven and sensible way to maintain muscle mass in the elderly will always be to exercise and get your protein in no different than the rest of us.

Similarly, BCAA, namely Leucine, would also seem more efficacious as well, at least until further proof is done to validate the ECD claims in the study above. Interesting thought though Sapentia ;)

sapentia said:
Awesome! Aside from the GF; it occurred to me this might be a good supp. for more elderly people who typically suffer from muscle wasting and often fat accumulation. I oversee my parents (64 and 65 y/o) supplement regimen - longevity supplementation that is, not bodybuilding.

So what is your take on ECDY as a supp. to combat the natural muscle wasting seen in older individuals? Would this be safe and do you think it could be a permanent staple at a lower dose?, like 25mg/day?
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tnubs said:
Even tho ecdysterones are safe, they wont be very effective in people who are sedentary. If they are active they will likely not have these problems in the first place, but ecdy would help. Ecdysterone is basically just an adaptogen which has a nice effect of improving recovery and some other things but u have to give it a stimulus to help it adapt to in the first place, in the case of most, a more intense workout.
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Whacked said:
Similarly, BCAA, namely Leucine, would also seem more efficacious as well, at least until further proof is done to validate the ECD claims in the study above. Interesting thought though Sapentia ;)
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Thanks for your thoughts whacked. I actually have my mother on an 8:1:1 bcaa mixture 3 times per day for that exact reason. She has a physically debilitating neurological condition which prohibits her from doing full physical activities to the degree she would want. She is a fighter though and still does what she can but has a very low endurance threshold. I try to help as much as possible through educated supplementation.
 
sapentia said:
Awesome! Aside from the GF; it occurred to me this might be a good supp. for more elderly people who typically suffer from muscle wasting and often fat accumulation. I oversee my parents (64 and 65 y/o) supplement regimen - longevity supplementation that is, not bodybuilding.

So what is your take on ECDY as a supp. to combat the natural muscle wasting seen in older individuals? Would this be safe and do you think it could be a permanent staple at a lower dose?, like 25mg/day?
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That is actually a really valid thought. Being a nurse, I see many elderly pt's who take a plethora of supplements, vitamins, minerals, herbs, etc. on a daily basis to help stay young and live longer. It's actually surprising to see that some take more than me! This is def something to consider and look in to. When I get time, I am going to search around a bit and see what I can find when I am at work with all the medical journals and such.

Mike
 
criticalbench said:
That is actually a really valid thought. Being a nurse, I see many elderly pt's who take a plethora of supplements, vitamins, minerals, herbs, etc. on a daily basis to help stay young and live longer. It's actually surprising to see that some take more than me! This is def something to consider and look in to. When I get time, I am going to search around a bit and see what I can find when I am at work with all the medical journals and such.

Mike
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That would be awesome Critical! I figure it is worth a shot and if I can ascertain a relative measure of safety I am thinking I will begin my mom on a low dose of a single 25mg pill per day and have her note any effects over the next month or so.
 
wow. i havent been on the AM forums that long, but the difference between posters over here and posters on bb.com is absolutely crazy.......


the day ecdymorph went up for sale on NP, i made a thread simply posting the product write up from the NP page and said its out whos gonna buy it...............

needless to say, the thread turned into a clusterfuck, leading to vaughn getting bashed and eventually the thread got deleted.......and a troll or two stirring up the pot


props to you guys over here who kept everything civil.
 
baldwanus said:
wow. i havent been on the AM forums that long, but the difference between posters over here and posters on bb.com is absolutely crazy.......


the day ecdymorph went up for sale on NP, i made a thread simply posting the product write up from the NP page and said its out whos gonna buy it...............

needless to say, the thread turned into a clusterfuck, leading to vaughn getting bashed and eventually the thread got deleted.......and a troll or two stirring up the pot


props to you guys over here who kept everything civil.
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BB dot com is..... Oh never mind

Vaughn.. I love you and I don't care what those mean bullies say about you at BB! You could probable crush half of them anyway.

Just don't stop making EcdyMorph or I wiiillllllll find you!! ;) (said in creepy girl voice from wedding crashers)
 
Hmmmmmm..... lady eating me might not be too bad :yumyum:, but on a more serious note could you guys sort this out for me. I run an intermittent fasting protocol (eat for 8 hours, fast for 16) and am trying to figure out if I can take this in the morning on an empty stomach and then not eat for another 4 or 5 hours? I asked this more or less in another ECDY thread but still looking for an answer.
 
sapentia said:
Hmmmmmm..... lady eating me might not be too bad :yumyum:, but on a more serious note could you guys sort this out for me. I run an intermittent fasting protocol (eat for 8 hours, fast for 16) and am trying to figure out if I can take this in the morning on an empty stomach and then not eat for another 4 or 5 hours? I asked this more or less in another ECDY thread but still looking for an answer.
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try dosing it at the beginning, middle, and end of the eating period. that would likely yield best results. it needs to be taken around protein meals when the amino acids are still in the blood. so first, middle, last meal of that period should work well.
 
tnubs said:
try dosing it at the beginning, middle, and end of the eating period. that would likely yield best results. it needs to be taken around protein meals when the amino acids are still in the blood. so first, middle, last meal of that period should work well.
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Thanks tnubs. I think that's what I will do; my 4 bottles just arrived today!
 
what is everyone dosing at? are most you you following directions on the bottle? most of what ive read says 5mg perkilo of bodyweight. that would go through a bottle pretty fast. i just got mine today, took 2caps AM meal and gona take 2 more with last meal.
 
pasamoto said:
what is everyone dosing at? are most you you following directions on the bottle? most of what ive read says 5mg perkilo of bodyweight. that would go through a bottle pretty fast. i just got mine today, took 2caps AM meal and gona take 2 more with last meal.
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Spread it out more

-breakfast

-pre workout

-post workout

-last meal of the day
 
ive read the half-life is 9 hours, thats why i was going with 2 doses a day. have you had better results 4times a day?
 
So here's a question for you ecdysterone vets, if I am at a higher dosage of ecdysterone and then drop back to a lower dosage will that still be effective in time or will I need to stay at higher dosage indefinitely? For example, if I'm taking 100mg of ecdymorph and then I drop back to 50mg am I still going to get much benefit?
 
sapentia said:
So here's a question for you ecdysterone vets, if I am at a higher dosage of ecdysterone and then drop back to a lower dosage will that still be effective in time or will I need to stay at higher dosage indefinitely? For example, if I'm taking 100mg of ecdymorph and then I drop back to 50mg am I still going to get much benefit?
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I personally do not think you will see a decrease in mass but at the same time the effects at 50mg will probable not be as strong as 100mg. Find your sweet spot and ride it out from there.
 
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