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police should be included also...has to be one of the most thankless, riskiest jobs for low pay I can think of
Any job should be included. Nobody knows what sacrifices or hard work went into what somebody does. If somebody was lucky enough to inherit a successful business from their parents, I see looking down on them being just as bad as somebody looking down on a janitor. Everybody has their own crap they go through and reasons for choosing the job they did.
 
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police should be included also...has to be one of the most thankless, riskiest jobs for low pay I can think of
Here: "While average county police pay was nearly $106,000 in 2002, by last year it had climbed by 30 percent to $137,858 in Nassau, and $136,985 in Suffolk for sworn officers of all ranks, according to records provided by the two county comptrollers."
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/most-li-cops-earn-more-than-100-000-annually-1.1451151

However starting pay for NYPD is very pathetic considering how outrageusly expensive the cost of living is there.
 
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Any job should be included. Nobody knows what sacrifices or hard work went into what somebody does. If somebody was lucky enough to inherit a successful business from their parents, I see looking down on them being just as bad as somebody looking down on a janitor. Everybody has their own crap they go through and reasons for choosing the job they did.
even trump...he probably gets off on the power trip, that seems to suit his personality...but I bet there are times when he wonders if it's worth it.
 
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This. There is no reason to “bet”, actually read the plans and post support for the statement
lol, do you have something against bets?

it cracks me up when people take this thread so seriously. it is a subsection [chat section] of a bodybuilding forum. I can only imagine holiday dinners with family members who have differing opinions, lol.
 
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I guess someone forgot to tell warren that native americans were slave owners.
 
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Palestinian authority bans lgbtq activities in west bank
 
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Palestinian authority bans lgbtq activities in west bank
Oh, so not only is it illegal for gay Palestinians to marry Isreali's but they cant do that at home either. That sucks.
 
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@ax1 those protesters in hong kong are gutsy people...waving American flags!!!

makes me realize how lucky I am to be American.
 
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the homeless situation in California keeps getting worse...eventually it will have to be dealt with, but I seriously doubt anyone has the answer.
 
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the homeless situation in California keeps getting worse...eventually it will have to be dealt with, but I seriously doubt anyone has the answer.
There certainly are answers but those people with them are labeled as “not having a plan” due to philosophical differences in regards to the economy.
 
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There certainly are answers but those people with them are labeled as “not having a plan” due to philosophical differences in regards to the economy.
Show me the plan.
 
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I have some answers to homeless people. Mental health and a safe place to stay while the get treatment.

They have to accept treatment.

My sister is homeless. She won’t.
 
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Show me the plan.
It all starts by adhering to our Republic's rule of law first protecting human rights and individual freedoms...something contrary of what anarchists support along with the majority of Repulsivekids, DemOhCrapz, Conservatives, Liberals and just about everyone in between or the so called "middle."

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From there you want to address the Federal Reserve and monetary policy, nothing is more important than having sound stable money that is auditable by the people's elected officials and backed by the gold and silver standard. 3rd....end all the wars and the empire, being the globe's mass murderers in chief. This country is 20+ trillion broke and cannot afford it and puts our national defense at risk. Use these funds to provide support for the collapsing health care, SS, Medicare, education system and fix the infrastructure...no need to pull the rug out from anybody and slowly implement the best free market policies from the Austrian School of Economics (or improve on top of it) as we phase out of the socialist system over a long period of time. This is a very very quick summary and we can have years of discussions of what can be done, how and when to implement them.

And lastly, fuq that stupid border wall, its usless!!!! Off topic just felt like throwing that in lol.
 
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I have some answers to homeless people. Mental health and a safe place to stay while the get treatment.

They have to accept treatment.

My sister is homeless. She won’t.
This is easily financed by ending that atrocious war on drugs. We have have drug depots that offer people non-tainted drugs that finance built in education and walk in medical care.

We we are double financing this, first by relocating war on drug money, 2nd taking the money out of the street thugs hands and putting them directly to medical care.

Make it 3rd financing if needed.....less people would be in prisons for non-violent crimes and all the savings from the judicial system and cops working their asses off overtime fighting something that has no reciprocol benefits and contributes to gang violence and other types of thuggery.

Of course, I sorta sound like a socialist here relocating tax payer money, but Im into long term free market planning and not overnight cutting.
 
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It all starts by adhering to our Republic's rule of law first protecting human rights and individual freedoms...something contrary of what anarchists support along with the majority of Repulsivekids, DemOhCrapz, Conservatives, Liberals and just about everyone in between or the so called "middle."

View attachment 185838

From there you want to address the Federal Reserve and monetary policy, nothing is more important than having sound stable money that is auditable by the people's elected officials and backed by the gold and silver standard. 3rd....end all the wars and the empire, being the globe's mass murderers in chief. This country is 20+ trillion broke and cannot afford it and puts our national defense at risk. Use these funds to provide support for the collapsing health care, SS, Medicare, education system and fix the infrastructure...no need to pull the rug out from anybody and slowly implement the best free market policies from the Austrian School of Economics (or improve on top of it) as we phase out of the socialist system over a long period of time. This is a very very quick summary and we can have years of discussions of what can be done, how and when to implement them.

And lastly, fuq that stupid border wall, its usless!!!! Off topic just felt like throwing that in lol.
So, is taxation theft?
 
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So, is taxation theft?
Taxing the fruits of peoples labor and punishing the rewards of production directly yes.

That does not mean I personally dont believe in having any tax at all such as sales tax, property, etc...., as in consumption tax in some way.

Also, being non-dogmatic (no, Im not actually a libtertarian but a political athiest) I truthfully can compromise some income tax being it directly benefits people, communities, police, military even though it wouldnt be my funding preference. As it is now, I find it completely unacceptable up and down the board, and I think alot of people can at least agree with me on that :)

If I can find the right words to express my thoughts of income tax, I believe income tax is simply the most demeaning possible way to tax people.
 
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Taxing the fruits of peoples labor and punishing the rewards of production directly yes.

That does not mean I personally dont believe in having any tax at all such as sales tax, property, etc...., as in consumption tax in some way.

Also, being non-dogmatic (no, Im not actually a libtertarian but a political athiest) I truthfully can compromise some income tax being it directly benefits people, communities, police, military even though it wouldnt be my funding preference. As it is now, I find it completely unacceptable up and down the board, and I think alot of people can at least agree with me on that :)

If I can find the right words to express my thoughts of income tax, I believe income tax is simply the most demeaning possible way to tax people.
IDK, you sound pretty socialist to me, just more vehemently pacifistic than most.
 
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IDK, you sound pretty socialist to me, just more vehemently pacifistic than most.
A CiaNN poll today shows most prioritize beating Dump.

The truth is most will vehemently vote for more mass murder just to make that happen. Its really sick if you ask me.
 
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A CiaNN poll today shows most prioritize beating Dump.

The truth is most will vehemently vote for more mass murder just to make that happen. Its really sick if you ask me.
I think if you asked most if they'd like to end all wars, they would say yes. The choice they end up with is whatever they think the lesser of two evils is. Granted their are 3rd party candidates but most people feel that they are a throw away vote.
 
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A CiaNN poll today shows most prioritize beating Dump.

The truth is most will vehemently vote for more mass murder just to make that happen. Its really sick if you ask me.
lol..kind of like the old commercial--what would you do for a Klondike bar?

the dems/liberals are going to go insane when they realize trump is going to be re-elected.
 
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I think if you asked most if they'd like to end all wars, they would say yes. The choice they end up with is whatever they think the lesser of two evils is. Granted their are 3rd party candidates but most people feel that they are a throw away vote.
Its unfortunate, people are are pinned down like that. Its also unfortunate the system is set up where the top two money collectors have a guaranteed chance at purchasing the room in the Oval Office.
 
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lol..kind of like the old commercial--what would you do for a Klondike bar?

the dems/liberals are going to go insane when they realize trump is going to be re-elected.
Well, I wouldnt be dropping the checked flag as of yet, lol.

I do think Dump has a chance at winning yet again, unlike the way it is appeared on TV, but we will see when the official results are in.
 
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Well, I wouldnt be dropping the checked flag as of yet, lol.

I do think Dump has a chance at winning yet again, unlike the way it is appeared on TV, but we will see when the official results are in.
democrat/liberal hatred of trump borders on insanity...
 
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It would be incredible if.

1. Trump lost in 2020
2. Trump was indicted soon after. Minutes after.
3. Profit.

Vegas odds are not in his favor. (Ironic)
 
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It would be incredible if.

1. Trump lost in 2020
2. Trump was indicted soon after. Minutes after.
3. Profit.

Vegas odds are not in his favor. (Ironic)
None of that is good enough for him. Words and actions have consequences and I'll have a huge smile on the day that he finally learns that.
 
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None of that is good enough for him. Words and actions have consequences and I'll have a huge smile on the day that he finally learns that.
It would be incredible if.

1. Trump lost in 2020
2. Trump was indicted soon after. Minutes after.
3. Profit.

Vegas odds are not in his favor. (Ironic)
point made.
 
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It would be incredible if.

1. Trump lost in 2020
2. Trump was indicted soon after. Minutes after.
3. Profit.

Vegas odds are not in his favor. (Ironic)
ROFL!!!!! I see Demohcraps taking power 2020....DemohCrap Prezident elect high fives Dump behind closed doors and says, Remember you were gonna put Hitlery in jail? NIIICCEEEEEE!!!!!!

They are all the same pile of crap behind the scenes, trust me.

There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
 
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point made.
I've repeatedly listed my reasons for disliking Trump using specific examples. Insanity is continuing to support a person who works against your own interests simply because that would somehow be supporting the woman or the black guy, something thebigot just can't ever be seen doing.
 
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We will see in 2020 when the Dems take the Senate and the POTUS. Undoing the damage Trump has helped create. That includes helping Republicans he made fake promises to.
 
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We will see in 2020 when the Dems take the Senate and the POTUS. Undoing the damage Trump has helped create. That includes helping Republicans he made fake promises to.
When that happens then by 2028 the latest the Repulsivecins take the Senate and POTUS undoing the damage whoever that is helped create. That includes helping Demohcraps he/she made fake promises too. And by that time they will leave the GOP more executive powers over-riding Constitutional authority just like Obomo and his dummos left the red Dump.

At least if you want your future to be optimistic, by 2036 you can rinse and repeat process when the Demohcraps pretend to take power over again and save the country.
 
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The truth is in the meantime this duopoly single party system could have easily been wiped out and peoples human rights could have been mostly restored, but they psychologically control by design who the masses should be voting for.


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We will see in 2020 when the Dems take the Senate and the POTUS. Undoing the damage Trump has helped create. That includes helping Republicans he made fake promises to.
The odds of the Senate switching control are very long, just an FYI.
 
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Dems need to keep 12 and the GOP needs to defend 22.
Odds are in favor of Dems.

Any takers?
 
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I saw Dump on CiaNN earlier...he is looking more like Baghdad Bob by the day.


 
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I saw Dump on CiaNN earlier...he is looking more like Baghdad Bob by the day.
I don't know if even Bob would be out shopping for new territories while staring at a coming recession.
 
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Dems need to keep 12 and the GOP needs to defend 22.
Odds are in favor of Dems.

Any takers?
You realize there is more to it than sheer numbers, right? The states that are up for grabs lean heavily in the GOP's favor.
 
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Dems need to keep 12 and the GOP needs to defend 22.
Odds are in favor of Dems.

Any takers?
Dick Cheney's first term as President was far, far worse than Dump's today (worse of my lifetime, worse than Obomo even.) In 2004 I thought it was completely impossible for him to win re-election and the GOP to stay in power.

Dont be so sure, its not worth it. That term marked the finalization of the complete death of the United States as we know it.
 

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