unfortunately most veterans are not multi-millionaires.Is anyone who talks about veterans issues but doesn't donate all their money to vets a giant hypocrite???
unfortunately most veterans are not multi-millionaires.Is anyone who talks about veterans issues but doesn't donate all their money to vets a giant hypocrite???
Again, a ridiculously brain dead talking point. Even if they donate every cent they have it wouldn't even make a dent and they wouldn't have the resources to continue to try to change these issues.aren't they for redistribution of wealth? why not start with their own wealth?
Um, whaa?Yeah, they all down with corporate welfare thats for sure, especially that slimy lying thug Bernie.
But if they want others to donate, they have to lead by example, right?unfortunately most veterans are not multi-millionaires.
it would go a long way towards showing they cared though, right?Again, a ridiculously brain dead talking point. Even if they donate every cent they have it wouldn't even make a dent and they wouldn't have the resources to continue to try to change these issues.
Again, if people are in favor of helping vets are they obligated to donate their life savings?
Spit out the libertarian kool aid. They have no plan beyond anarchism at this point.The concept of enforced charity at IRS gunpoint stealing the fruits of people's labor is far worse than the hypocrisy they live by.
They are free to lecture and donate as they please, but not free to steal it from me or others.Again, a ridiculously brain dead talking point. Even if they donate every cent they have it wouldn't even make a dent and they wouldn't have the resources to continue to try to change these issues.
Again, if people are in favor of helping vets are they obligated to donate their life savings?
Seriously, anyone who has ever talked about veterans affairs should cash in their 401k and donate it immediately.it would go a long way towards showing they cared though, right?
seriously, if they are sincere about redistribution of wealth the should lead by example.
Thats a extremist liberal talking point when they don’t want to debate policies that will lift people out of poverty that they directly are responsible for.Spit out the libertarian kool aid. They have no plan beyond anarchism at this point.
No one is stealing. You live in a civil society and you get a yearly bill for services rendered. Go live in the woods you rugged individualist you. If they can't find you, they can't tax you.They are free to lecture and donate as they please, but not free to steal it from me or others.
Austrian economics.Spit out the libertarian kool aid. They have no plan beyond anarchism at this point.
"Liberals" have a plan. They have several actually, all posted online. You may not like or agree with them but at least they have one. Current libertarians are like a Mad Max movie.Thats a extremist liberal talking point when they don’t want to debate policies that will lift people out of poverty that they directly are responsible for.
People work and it’s stolen and they are told how it’s spent.No one is stealing. You live in a civil society and you get a yearly bill for services rendered. Go live in the woods you rugged individualist you. If they can't find you, they can't tax you.
seriously? what does this have to do with multi-millionaire democrats saying they want redistribution of wealth-for everyone but themselves...just like congress approved obamacare-for everyone else but themselves.Seriously, anyone who has ever talked about veterans affairs should cash in their 401k and donate it immediately.
Yes, Liberals have a plan and they are the wisest intellects of the universe."Liberals" have a plan. They have several actually, all posted online. You may not like or agree with them but at least they have one. Current libertarians are like a Mad Max movie.
I bet their 'plan' won't include them, just like Obamacare. they will make themselves exempt."Liberals" have a plan. They have several actually, all posted online. You may not like or agree with them but at least they have one. Current libertarians are like a Mad Max movie.
You're arguing with a guy that supposedly hates socialism, but takes full advantage of socialism.This is possibly the most brain dead of the conservative talking points.
OMG, you're so right! Since they don't donate themselves into poverty they don't care at all!
Derp derp derp derp
They're happy to pay their fair share and their proposals would affect them too. The idea that they need to donate every thing before asking others to pitch in their fair share as well is a ridiculous straw man argument.seriously? what does this have to do with multi-millionaire democrats saying they want redistribution of wealth-for everyone but themselves...just like congress approved obamacare-for everyone else but themselves.
They do have the more educated folks, typically.Yes, Liberals have a plan and they are the wisest intellects of the universe.
Still asking. Why am I going to waste my time finding you information when you arbitrarily pick which information you believe or not? Think back to your analogy of protesters and the police.lol...you asked what emotional baggage?
First of all I dont have an employer, I am a self proprietor. If I dont hand over my hard earnings quarterly they will destroy my life and that is a guarantee.Your employer withholds s
there should be a constitutional amendment that any bill passed by congress should be law for congress as well-no more exemptions.Your employer withholds s
They're happy to pay their fair share and their proposals would affect them too. The idea that they need to donate every thing before asking others to pitch in their fair share as well is a ridiculous straw man argument.
The plans are posted. Find me the part where it says they're exempt.I bet their 'plan' won't include them, just like Obamacare. they will make themselves exempt.
He can't. He keeps repeating this lie he heard on Fox as if it's true.The plans are posted. Find me the part where it says they're exempt.
Me too. It's a bill for services rendered. If you don't like what you're getting for your money you're free to seek a better deal with another government.First of all I dont have an employer, I am a self proprietor. If I dont hand over my hard earnings quarterly they will destroy my life and that is a guarantee.
Ok science guy, data or bullshyt.They do have the more educated folks, typically.
you can keep your doctor...hell, the democrats didn't even read the Obamacare bill before passing...but they were smart enough to know to exclude themselves from it.The plans are posted. Find me the part where it says they're exempt.
Ok science guy, data or bullshyt.
Yeah, they steal trillions to murder millions. Nice!Me too. It's a bill for services rendered. If you don't like what you're getting for your money you're free to seek a better deal with another government.
Do you know who wrote the horrid Obama care bill?whatsup Samsonite?
you can keep your doctor...hell, the democrats didn't even read the Obamacare bill before passing...but they were smart enough to know to exclude themselves from it.
People who support policies and politicians who steal trillions to murders millions should even be accounted for.Study finds those with graduate education are far more liberal than peers
Study finds those with graduate education not only lean more to the left than do other Americans, but have done so increasingly in the last two decades.www.insidehighered.com
Again, it's a bill. If you don't like the services you're paying for look for a better deal. Isn't that the crux of libertarianism?Yeah, they steal trillions to murder millions. Nice!
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.People who support policies and politicians who steal millions to murders trillions should even be accounted for.
Me too. It's a bill for services rendered. If you don't like what you're getting for your money you're free to seek a better deal with another government.
I know who passed it, isn't that the important part when it comes to laws?Do you know who wrote the horrid Obama care bill?
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdfyou can keep your doctor...hell, the democrats didn't even read the Obamacare bill before passing...but they were smart enough to know to exclude themselves from it.
You mean the Republican controlled senate that passed it?I know who passed it, isn't that the important part when it comes to laws?
mitt romney is a tool.
I actually don't think Biden did. IIRC he got elected to a local position pretty well immediately after graduating law school and passing the bar.yes, they did
Well thats fair. When I go to the voting booth I tell them all to shove it and support my non-aggresive people and stick up for whats humane.Again, it's a bill. If you don't like the services you're paying for look for a better deal. Isn't that the crux of libertarianism?
He was an attorney for about a year before starting in local government.I actually don't think Biden did. IIRC he got elected to a local position pretty well immediately after graduating law school and passing the bar.
check the date.https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf
page 65. Section 1312 (d) (3) (D)
They're not exempt.
what about it? Here are congressional benefits. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43194.pdfcheck the date.
Yep, you're right. I forgot about that. For some reason I could only remember reading about the clerkship he had in some Republicans office after Syracuse.He was an attorney for about a year before starting in local government.
So thats dated in 2017....so that means what I thought is dated as it changed and I was unaware of this change.what about it? Here are congressional benefits. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43194.pdf
Not only are they not exempt, they have to go through the stupid marketplace that most citizens, who get their insurance through their employer, do not.
Well, its good to know how the lobby and bureaucracy works so people can make better decisions at the next voting time, although Im not optimistic, lolI know who passed it, isn't that the important part when it comes to laws?
mitt romney is a tool.
It wasn't a long run as a lawyer, but I was just answer the question as yes/no. Biden started a firm after he started in government, but no idea if it continued or not.Yep, you're right. I forgot about that. For some reason I could only remember reading about the clerkship he had in some Republicans office after Syracuse.
It's all moot anyway, really. It isn't as though being a legislator isn't work, no matter how many people try to spin it as such. I've read about what those folks do in an average day, and if that isn't work then I don't know what is! (a point I'm sure you would agree with)
congress gets a pension towards federal employee healthcare options.So thats dated in 2017....so that means what I thought is dated as it changed and I was unaware of this change.
It's the Grassley amendment. If you do a search for that term or section Section 1312 (d)(3)(D), it'll come up. Supposedly Grassley wrote it in because he thought the Democrats would reject it and then he'd be able to call them out on the rumors that they were trying to be exempt, and now they're all stuck with it.So thats dated in 2017....so that means what I thought is dated as it changed and I was unaware of this change.
police should be included also...has to be one of the most thankless, riskiest jobs for low pay I can think ofIt wasn't a long run as a lawyer, but I was just answer the question as yes/no. Biden started a firm after he started in government, but no idea if it continued or not.
And I completely agree. I hear all the time how we should give respect to people that work in trades, but then those same people crap on others who they seem as having easy jobs like lawyers and legislators. There are slimy people in any job, but there's a lot of people who truly want to make a difference too. Those people get drowned out by the noise.
I wonder the technicality of this? Congress is well over 100 employees, but really its a meeting place of representatives of local districts across the country all serving from their local office.I could be wrong on all of this, but Congress should be able to be exempt since employers with more than 100 employees are exempt. But from what I can see, they haven't exempted themselves. If somebody else has different info, I'm all for learning.
Depends, I think NY State Troopers end up making over 100k a year plus massive benefits. And over in Long Island in Nassau County cops there are loaded, I think they start 100k, but that was last I heard 20 years ago when I dated a daughter of a court officer who told me....and also wanted his daughter to date a local cop rather than me but thats another story LOL!!!!police should be included also...has to be one of the most thankless, riskiest jobs for low pay I can think of