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Do Selective Beta 2 Agonists enhance muscle, performance, and LBM?

BPjohn123 said:
Haha, I've been using Supercissus since the day it was released. Think I've gotta review from like 2006 on here somewhere
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Awesome! Super Cissus is a God-sent! Thumbs up!
 
strategicmove said:
Awesome! Super Cissus is a God-sent! Thumbs up!
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For sure, don't know why but back then in university I worked a small supp shop, tried every kind of cissus available. Nothing works like Supercissus for me.
 
BPjohn123 said:
Haha, I've been using Supercissus since the day it was released. Think I've gotta review from like 2006 on here somewhere
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I wish I didn't wait so long to try it. I'm about to finish my second bottle and have 3 more on the way. It works wonders for me and has quickly become a staple supplement.
 
breezy11 said:
I wish I didn't wait so long to try it. I'm about to finish my second bottle and have 3 more on the way. It works wonders for me and has quickly become a staple supplement.
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Sounds like my nutra order just got bigger, dammn you guys!
 
BPjohn123 said:
For sure, don't know why but back then in university I worked a small supp shop, tried every kind of cissus available. Nothing works like Supercissus for me.
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breezy11 said:
I wish I didn't wait so long to try it. I'm about to finish my second bottle and have 3 more on the way. It works wonders for me and has quickly become a staple supplement.
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LiveToLift said:
Sounds like my nutra order just got bigger, dammn you guys!
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Awesome feedback. Thank you for the support, and for spreading the good word!
 
I had to send an email out to them to get a confirmation on second round. Yet to arrive though, hoping it will get here by the end of the weekend. :-)
 
I'm wondering if I'm experiencing side effects of too low estrogen; my skin and lips are getting unusually dry and libido is also going down.
 
Jonbero said:
I'm wondering if I'm experiencing side effects of too low estrogen; my skin and lips are getting unusually dry and libido is also going down.
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Those are some of the symptoms. How are your joints?
 
Jonbero said:
No joint trouble at all.
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I had dry skin and some joint tightness that improved after switching to EOD dosing.
 
Jonbero said:
I'm wondering if I'm experiencing side effects of too low estrogen; my skin and lips are getting unusually dry and libido is also going down.
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Dude, I was noticing this exact same thing the past few days. My hands are all flaky, and my lips are almost chapped, they're so dry. My libido did take a tank at the beginning of the week, but it seems to have come back.

Also, my wrist, that I had surgery on about 5-6 years ago, was hurting real bad yesterday. I occassionally have problems with it, but yesterday, after chest and biceps, it was killing me.
 
kaikara said:
Dude, I was noticing this exact same thing the past few days. My hands are all flaky, and my lips are almost chapped, they're so dry. My libido did take a tank at the beginning of the week, but it seems to have come back.

Also, my wrist, that I had surgery on about 5-6 years ago, was hurting real bad yesterday. I occassionally have problems with it, but yesterday, after chest and biceps, it was killing me.
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Sorry to hear that bro. I have the EXACT same problem. My hands are flaky and lips are dry. During the first days my libido went trough the roof but now its been shot down. Seems like Erase Pro is much stronger than regular Erase because I didn't experience such problems with regular Erase at all and I was taking 3 caps (75mg same dose) a day.

I'm thinking about dosing EOD but I'm not sure. The flaky hands and dry lips is really not a huge deal for me since I'm making good progress. I'm getting leaner and leaner and I'm starting to see veins where I never had them before. Is there any danger in continuing to take ED now? If the sides get unbearable I will drop to EOD but right now I'd like to continue dosing ED.

Another idea I have is to throw in some Testofen, never been a fan of it since stuff is highly estrogenic but if my ''symptoms'' are from too low estrogen it could balance things up nicely.
 
Jonbero said:
Sorry to hear that bro. I have the EXACT same problem. My hands are flaky and lips are dry. During the first days my libido went trough the roof but now its been shot down. Seems like Erase Pro is much stronger than regular Erase because I didn't experience such problems with regular Erase at all and I was taking 3 caps (75mg same dose) a day.

I'm thinking about dosing EOD but I'm not sure. The flaky hands and dry lips is really not a huge deal for me since I'm making good progress. I'm getting leaner and leaner and I'm starting to see veins where I never had them before. Is there any danger in continuing to take ED now? If the sides get unbearable I will drop to EOD but right now I'd like to continue dosing ED.

Another idea I have is to throw in some Testofen, never been a fan of it since stuff is highly estrogenic but if my ''symptoms'' are from too low estrogen it could balance things up nicely.
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Yea, I haven't had those problems with regular Erase or any other AI that I've used. You can bet I'll be throwing that into my next PCT.

I thought about going EOD. I skipped one day this week, and come to think of it... I think that's when my libido came roaring back.

I don't think there's in harm in continuing every day for the whole 8 weeks, but I'm no expert.
 
my right hand is pretty dry and cracking, but this seems to happen every year around this time of year, so i am not sure if it is EP doing in. lips arent any drier than usual, but i do try and put some burts bees on at least once a day.
 
Bolanrox said:
my right hand is pretty dry and cracking, but this seems to happen every year around this time of year, so i am not sure if it is EP doing in. lips arent any drier than usual, but i do try and put some burts bees on at least once a day.
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Sure that spring doesn't just have you feeling more frisky lol ...
 
I had to stop the Erase Pro completely. Tried EOD and it just didn't help with the joint problems. Libido just started coming back yesterday after I've been off it 3 days at that point if I'm remembering correctly. Gotta save it for a time when I can pre-load some cissus for 2-3 weeks before I start the Erase Pro.
 
T-Bone said:
I had to stop the Erase Pro completely. Tried EOD and it just didn't help with the joint problems. Libido just started coming back yesterday after I've been off it 3 days at that point if I'm remembering correctly. Gotta save it for a time when I can pre-load some cissus for 2-3 weeks before I start the Erase Pro.
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Maybe they can come out with an erase-semi-pro for us pansies! LMAO Sh1t is strong as all hell!
 
LiveToLift said:
Maybe they can come out with an erase-semi-pro for us pansies! LMAO Sh1t is strong as all hell!
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Lol erase amateur. I think that's straight erase fellas! I am waiting to use my two bottles of pro for summer.. U have all scared me now.. But I've taken 4 erase per day at one point.. Still scared tho lol
 
chedapalooza said:
Lol erase amateur. I think that's straight erase fellas! I am waiting to use my two bottles of pro for summer.. U have all scared me now.. But I've taken 4 erase per day at one point.. Still scared tho lol
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no no no, I wan't a product that can be single dosed daily. I will patent erase semi-pro and work with pes on the deal to get off the patent... MUHAHAHA
 
I'm 3 days into pro now with no issues yet. EOD may have to be the answer for some people
 
LiveToLift said:
no no no, I wan't a product that can be single dosed daily. I will patent erase semi-pro and work with pes on the deal to get off the patent... MUHAHAHA
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Lol alright.. U work in patents??
 
T-Bone said:
I turn 40 this summer so aches and pains are a lot more common then guys in their 20's.
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Understandable, I haven't experienced any aches and pains really. Just some acne, dry skin and lips.
 
So I thought I'd share. Unfortunately I'm not seeing the aesthetic changes that most are (since it appears that the old endocrine system still isn't up to snuff; blood work in a week, hopefully), but I had a pretty crazy workout, today. My gym has been shut down for coming up on 10 days. I had to work out of town, today, and hit a gym there. I combined my chest and back workouts. The chest workout started off kind of rough. It was high intensity and short rest. I started off on DB Incline and did well, but regular bench (on Smith, because this place didn't actually have a bench press...) suffered a bit. Cable flys went well and then once I started hitting back (isolation work on lat pulldowns and seated rows), I just could NOT get tired. I was sweating like crazy, but I could have stayed there all day. Felt blown up by the time I left.

Really noticed the difference in endurance.
 
MidwestBeast said:
So I thought I'd share. Unfortunately I'm not seeing the aesthetic changes that most are (since it appears that the old endocrine system still isn't up to snuff; blood work in a week, hopefully), but I had a pretty crazy workout, today. My gym has been shut down for coming up on 10 days. I had to work out of town, today, and hit a gym there. I combined my chest and back workouts. The chest workout started off kind of rough. It was high intensity and short rest. I started off on DB Incline and did well, but regular bench (on Smith, because this place didn't actually have a bench press...) suffered a bit. Cable flys went well and then once I started hitting back (isolation work on lat pulldowns and seated rows), I just could NOT get tired. I was sweating like crazy, but I could have stayed there all day. Felt blown up by the time I left.

Really noticed the difference in endurance.
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Very nice!
 
I am starting to see more changes now and the reason for that is I have been able to flush some water since I cleaned up my diet. Now things are really rolling...
 
I'm in my day 18 and I'm liking the stack.

I would love to do an 8 week run.

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Here's my log...sorry for delay...i was logging something else...

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For anyone looking for a list of the logs from this giveaway they are at the first part of this post;

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Got word that round 2 is on its way. So far id say the answer to the question posed in the title is a yes.
 
Fiirst thanks to Strat and Jacob for my little care package, that wasn't so little, your generosity always astounds me....

Secondly is tthere any benefit to increasing dosage of C20 to say 6 caps ed... or 4 ntd's and 6 td's ?
 
DreamWeaver said:
Fiirst thanks to Strat and Jacob for my little care package, that wasn't so little, your generosity always astounds me....

Secondly is tthere any benefit to increasing dosage of C20 to say 6 caps ed... or 4 ntd's and 6 td's ?
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Dream I have started 6 caps daily bout 3/4 days ago and noticed maybe a slight increase in vascularity. Also my diet went down the tubes yesterday from having an unexpected travel yet I woke up today feeling super lean and looking real good. I will try to update in here in a few days to give further feedback....
 
DreamWeaver said:
Fiirst thanks to Strat and Jacob for my little care package, that wasn't so little, your generosity always astounds me....

Secondly is tthere any benefit to increasing dosage of C20 to say 6 caps ed... or 4 ntd's and 6 td's ?
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Interesting approach...there is data on other selective b2-agonists having acute/single dose performance increases so this seems like it may be beneficial
 
I actually dosed 6 caps on 2 days of my run, (2) morning, (2) 3 hours pre with meal, (2) 60 min pre... Did this on a day I ran a double workout (2a day) and both times I did this I was literally ravenous with hunger and putting away food like crazy and having amazing workouts.

Back on c20 and anabeta again right now in pct and it's been a wonderful pct so far.
 
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