Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.

i love the product and use it daily for the dhea and preg to go along with my trt. but it is nothing like test. sorry
 
I know... it's nothing like test.

But what are your options? Test, hCG, Derma, or a test booster.

Many people will stay away from test and hCG and some might grab a test booster but heres the problem with the test booster: it stimulates natural test but being shut down... a test booster is nowhere near as strong to over ride shut down (don't get me wrong some might be capable).

But with Derma, you're supplying the raw material for the body (DHEA) to make some test out of it for use.

It's obviously not like test... But it's your best option next to actual test and hCG.
 
MrBigPR said:
do u know true DHEA conversions to test? like 1% I believe.
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Giving me a hard time today big LOL.

It is low, I don't think as low as 1% though. It will convert to delta-5 derivatives and andro though pretty nicely. I don't think one can tell the difference between these and test.
 
JoHNnyNuTZ said:
If I doubled up the dose would that mean Im getting the equal amount of 300 mg test?
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No. Just like with 4-AD these hormones don't convert equivalent to testosterone because they're two-step precursors. It may be 100% bioavailable but it still has to make the last conversion to testosterone so testosterone and dermacrine are not equal mg per mg. Most of them convert at a rate of at most 20%. So 300 mg of dermacine might equal 60 mg of testosterone injectable generally speaking.
 
For a source/reference..

In the first post of this thread Dermacrine is said to convert to androstenedione which has a 6% conversion rate to actual test. So it's even less than I thought..

4-androstenedione (also known as androstenedione)
Converts to: testosterone
Characteristics:
Research indicates a conversion rate of about 5.9%, which means that of the amount taken orally, 5.9% is converted to testosterone.
Relatively high rate of aromatization to estrogens, and consequently higher risk of side-effects such as gynecomastia brought on by excessive estrogen formation.
Exhibits significant androgenic properties, which may result in side effects such as male pattern baldness, acne, and enlarged prostate.
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So take 6% of 300...:( but it's also got Pregnenolone and anti-e's to counter aromatization.
 
OK..I was just windering if I could dose like 10 mg twice a day, and if it would be anymore benififcial
 
sorry to ask same question (if someone has asked it before), but can this stuff really be an effective alternative to injectable testosterone enthanate? As I am considering it for gaining some mass. thanx
 
MarkoPMNE said:
sorry to ask same question (if someone has asked it before), but can this stuff really be an effective alternative to injectable testosterone enthanate? As I am considering it for gaining some mass. thanx
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Yes it can but you will need 3 bottles at a high dose for it to be truly effective compared to inject. test.
 
With the dieslebolan, or would this be overkill?
This will be my last Hoora with PH's , So im looking to go out with a bang!!!!
 
MarkoPMNE said:
thanx for the answers guys, just one more: so in what dosage and for how long should i use it to get comparable effect to injectable test?

thanx again,

marko
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Hmmm..

Don't quote me on this, but to get comparable results you'd need to dose it 20 -30 mL's a day. 4-6 servings a day I believe. But if you have the sudden urge to blow a hole in your wallet then you could take it higher.

Or do like MrBig said and just stick a needle in your ass. :stickp4:
 
Dermacrine is an awesome supplement to use for a base. It may not be inj. test, but if your lookin for a legal alternative, this is it!
 
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