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Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.

phonefool said:
so if i was going to run an anavar cycle with a test base (hrt dose) - dermacrine at 5ml / day could serve the same purpose just as or almost as effectively? and if i understand correctly an on cycle ai would not be needed?
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Right, 5mL 2x daily.

Its been compared to 150mg/week TE by most experienced TRT users.

-Eric
 
If I used dermacrine on, say an Epi and Mdrol bridge, would I run it ED and will my gains be a lot easier to keep in PCT?
 
I'm running this at the moment with Dianabol (at 30mg/day) and feel absolutely incredible :D No sides (like my mate said I would get at 30mg+) and strength is skyrocketing by the minute...
 
the new lv version is it better then the original transdermal version..many say not as effective oraly as transdermal
 
I am about to start my third week of epi/mass fx stack cycle, would it be ok to add dermacrine to this cycle at this stage? Or, should I wait and run it later? Or, even better, can I run it during PCT, and at what stage? Sorry so many questions, hope I did not exceed my daily quota, lol.
 
ABNRanger said:
I am about to start my third week of epi/mass fx stack cycle, would it be ok to add dermacrine to this cycle at this stage? Or, should I wait and run it later? Or, even better, can I run it during PCT, and at what stage? Sorry so many questions, hope I did not exceed my daily quota, lol.
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You dont want to use Dermacrine for PCT. It would stack well with those compounds you listed. Is this going to be a 6 week cycle?

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
You dont want to use Dermacrine for PCT. It would stack well with those compounds you listed. Is this going to be a 6 week cycle?

-Eric
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I have never run a 6 week cycle before, but I might just do that this time. Would it be ok to add the dermacrine now, or wait till next cycle?
 
kinda wanna try some of this. is it even good to take solo?
 
I am planning on doing my first cycle ever. Would dermacrine be a good addition to Superdrone LV? If so, how would I dose/stack it? Thanks
 
maxxx88 said:
I am planning on doing my first cycle ever. Would dermacrine be a good addition to Superdrone LV? If so, how would I dose/stack it? Thanks
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i would not rec SD as a first cycle. its an experienced steroid with lost of sides. Turinabol lv is perfect for a 1st cycle. Can be stacked with derm as well.
 
yeah stick with turina for your first cycle
 
maxxx88 said:
I am planning on doing my first cycle ever. Would dermacrine be a good addition to Superdrone LV? If so, how would I dose/stack it? Thanks
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Yeah, this is actually one of our official recommendations... we have a thread around here somewhere about this...

-Eric
 
I'm thinking about trying Dermacrine for six weeks but concerned about estrogenic side effects. Would stacking with Formestane reduce the effectivness of Dermacrine?
 
BBB said:
I'm thinking about trying Dermacrine for six weeks but concerned about estrogenic side effects. Would stacking with Formestane reduce the effectivness of Dermacrine?
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It would be nice for a cut. I've never experienced estro sides while on Dermacrine though.
 
Jimbo15 said:
It would be nice for a cut. I've never experienced estro sides while on Dermacrine though.
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What about progestagenic sides? I remember reading some cautions about combining products with pregnenolone in them with compounds like tren.

How much progesterone conversion is one likely to get from the pregnenolone in Dermacrine (given that pregnenolone converts to lots of steroids in the body of course)? I'm not looking for mg's (lol), but more like a qualitative assessment of whether the progesterone conversion is significant alone or in a stack.

I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the foot by OD'ing on progesterone if I have already experienced progesterone gyno symptoms from using a tren product. Are my worries unfounded?
 
dumbhick3 said:
What about progestagenic sides? I remember reading some cautions about combining products with pregnenolone in them with compounds like tren.

How much progesterone conversion is one likely to get from the pregnenolone in Dermacrine (given that pregnenolone converts to lots of steroids in the body of course)? I'm not looking for mg's (lol), but more like a qualitative assessment of whether the progesterone conversion is significant alone or in a stack.

I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the foot by OD'ing on progesterone if I have already experienced progesterone gyno symptoms from using a tren product. Are my worries unfounded?
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The small amount of pregnenolone that's present in the Dermacrine is there to compete in a small way for the 5-AR enzyme. This should help to at least mitigate some DHT conversion (from the target hormone test that's formed) and associated side effects.

It's not going to have any significant impact on the manifestation or proliferation of progestagenic side effects.

-John
 
running thsi for the 2nd time right now on-top of TheOne, well see how this goes! i loved it last time with phyto-test during a cut
 
JN230 said:
running thsi for the 2nd time right now on-top of TheOne, well see how this goes! i loved it last time with phyto-test during a cut
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weird the one is a ph that i never really looked into. what does it compare to? how are the sides / gains.
 
JN230 said:
running thsi for the 2nd time right now on-top of TheOne, well see how this goes! i loved it last time with phyto-test during a cut
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awesome please keep us posted.

qwerty33 said:
weird the one is a ph that i never really looked into. what does it compare to? how are the sides / gains.
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its a DHT DS and ive heard it compared to havoc with better strength gains.
 
flightposite said:
awesome please keep us posted.



its a DHT DS and ive heard it compared to havoc with better strength gains.
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I tried the one.. It was ok. I used the recomended pct of 2nd gear and drive and honestly i lost my size gains and some strength (but i did get a cold after i stopped the one). Id look into hdrol or epi for your methyl. The one was disappointing to me really.
 
crowpass said:
I tried the one.. It was ok. I used the recomended pct of 2nd gear and drive and honestly i lost my size gains and some strength (but i did get a cold after i stopped the one). Id look into hdrol or epi for your methyl. The one was disappointing to me really.
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hmm. epi scares me because it suppresses estro so much. the only ph that ever gave me nipple sensitivity
 
the one gave me nipple sensitivity dring weeks 3 and four. the six bromo seemed to clear it up in pct.
 
dumbhick3 said:
What about progestagenic sides? I remember reading some cautions about combining products with pregnenolone in them with compounds like tren.

How much progesterone conversion is one likely to get from the pregnenolone in Dermacrine (given that pregnenolone converts to lots of steroids in the body of course)? I'm not looking for mg's (lol), but more like a qualitative assessment of whether the progesterone conversion is significant alone or in a stack.

I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the foot by OD'ing on progesterone if I have already experienced progesterone gyno symptoms from using a tren product. Are my worries unfounded?
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Yeah, thats why we dont recommend high dose Dermacrine with TREN or vise versa. The progesterone conversion can catch up with you when stacked with TREN so your point is valid.

-Eric
 
Whats up guys, this is my first post here at AM. I'm loving what I'm seeing/hearing about PP ! I think I want to jump on the DERM/SUPER stack and pulse the superdrone EOD for 6 weeks.

My question is this...

Who's tried it, and how do they like it? lol

My wallet is burning and I'm ready to place a fairly large order, but I need to know if this is the closet PH route I can take to compare with the good ol' phera and classic PH days. Some honest feedback is greatly appreciated!

-Ralph
 
Can you use this stuff by itself?? If so for how long?? Will there be sides when using this stuff alone??? Do I need a PCT while on it??
 
jayp83 said:
Can you use this stuff by itself?? If so for how long?? Will there be sides when using this stuff alone??? Do I need a PCT while on it??
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If you read the entire thread from the first post, all of your questions would pretty much have been answered ;)
 
I just recently spoke with Jeff from PP and he was definitely quite helpful. I'm going to place an order in a bit and I'll definitely be logging my progress. This will be fun...
 
rtrocc said:
I just recently spoke with Jeff from PP and he was definitely quite helpful. I'm going to place an order in a bit and I'll definitely be logging my progress. This will be fun...
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sweet thanks man. look forward to seeing your results.
 
If a person were to cycle between this and Sustain Alpha could it be attempted to be used instead of TRT? I came off of TRT and used Sustain Alpha and it raised my test level from 200 to 600, so I was just wondering if I could run Dermacrine and then Sustain and continue that for a while just to see what effects it gives by bloodwork.
 
Mikey851 said:
If a person were to cycle between this and Sustain Alpha could it be attempted to be used instead of TRT? I came off of TRT and used Sustain Alpha and it raised my test level from 200 to 600, so I was just wondering if I could run Dermacrine and then Sustain and continue that for a while just to see what effects it gives by bloodwork.
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you could give it a shot. i don't see any harm there.
 
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