If it fits your macros....In semi-related news: Java Lather smells so good I want to eat it
If it fits your macros....In semi-related news: Java Lather smells so good I want to eat it
Hey! It's Dsade! You were the reason I wanted to try this, years and year back reading your posts on Mind and Muscle when it was still mostly the Avant guys. I'll have to try and snag some Eviscerate via Amazon or NutraPlanet. Are you still selling it rather well?I think there is some eviscerate available on AMAZON, and NutraPlanet
It's consistently my best seller, we're just in the midst of moving to a new production facility.Hey! It's Dsade! You were the reason I wanted to try this, years and year back reading your posts on Mind and Muscle when it was still mostly the Avant guys. I'll have to try and snag some Eviscerate via Amazon or NutraPlanet. Are you still selling it rather well?
That's good to hear! I have to be honest, I always thought the products from back in the day were too ahead of their time. Leptigen is great on paper, but I don't think people grasped exactly how it worked. Same with Phenogen, which I used with pretty good results. I'm glad Eviscerate is selling well and you are releasing updated Leptigens! And that Par Deus hasn't disappeared entirely! Is Spook still around? I remember his SpookyDerm formulation, always wanted to try that as well.It's consistently my best seller, we're just in the midst of moving to a new production facility.
You know I am releasing updated formulas for all of the Leptigens too, right? I've been working again with Par Deus for a while on them.
Nobody has been able to find Spook, not even Par Deus.That's good to hear! I have to be honest, I always thought the products from back in the day were too ahead of their time. Leptigen is great on paper, but I don't think people grasped exactly how it worked. Same with Phenogen, which I used with pretty good results. I'm glad Eviscerate is selling well and you are releasing updated Leptigens! And that Par Deus hasn't disappeared entirely! Is Spook still around? I remember his SpookyDerm formulation, always wanted to try that as well.
That's too bad, Spook was a very knowledgeable guy, I liked his write ups and outside the box thinking. Back in 2005 when I joined M&M, I lurked, followed all the posts, there was a lot of good information there. I remember seeing your posts quite a bit, which is why I was pleasantly surprised to see you post here! I think your work speaks for itself, and that being said, I definitely plan on grabbing some Eviscerate in the near future!Nobody has been able to find Spook, not even Par Deus.
I started my career there, and have not stopped studying, learning, and my work (hopefully) shows it.
If you're in the UK then you should be able to grab it from Predator. Just going off your sig.That's too bad, Spook was a very knowledgeable guy, I liked his write ups and outside the box thinking. Back in 2005 when I joined M&M, I lurked, followed all the posts, there was a lot of good information there. I remember seeing your posts quite a bit, which is why I was pleasantly surprised to see you post here! I think your work speaks for itself, and that being said, I definitely plan on grabbing some Eviscerate in the near future!
Oh, I'm actually in the sticks out here in Ohio. I just represent Olympus UK. I think figure Amazon is my best bet!If you're in the UK then you should be able to grab it from Predator. Just going off your sig.
Cool...I temporarily find myself in Ohio as well. Long story.Oh, I'm actually in the sticks out here in Ohio. I just represent Olympus UK. I think figure Amazon is my best bet!
I'm sorry, dude. The weather here is terrible. Hopefully its very temporary!Cool...I temporarily find myself in Ohio as well. Long story.
If you're a masochist, put an ab belt on the mid section firmly tight. It kicks the burn up about another thousand degrees. I can't make it through a whole workout without shedding the belt. Lol.I started clenviserate on Monday! Today was the first workout with it on overnight and man was it still kicking! Loved the burn!!
Wow. Not even able to find them. Hope nothing bad happened. Crazy how people go from super active to abruptly disappearing on these boards.Nobody has been able to find Spook, not even Par Deus.
I started my career there, and have not stopped studying, learning, and my work (hopefully) shows it.
Thanks- I'm definitely going to give this a go. I'n assuming you don't get the yohimbe sides either? I don't respond well to that either.No clen sides
Nope, no yohimbe sides eitherThanks- I'm definitely going to give this a go. I'n assuming you don't get the yohimbe sides either? I don't respond well to that either.
Awesome- thank you sir.Nope, no yohimbe sides either
Heck no! I don't think I could handle that! I'm just getting used to when it really kicks up. Plus, I only have the smolder! LolIf you're a masochist, put an ab belt on the mid section firmly tight. It kicks the burn up about another thousand degrees. I can't make it through a whole workout without shedding the belt. Lol.
I believe 2 days smolder+Clen then 2 days smolder solo. Follow that rotation for 2 weeks, then take 2 weeks without Clen. I add 50 mcg twice daily, first thing am and try for 1 hour preworkout.Heck no! I don't think I could handle that! I'm just getting used to when it really kicks up. Plus, I only have the smolder! Lol
Somehow I just saw the 2x's a day application part... I've seen varied notes on how many days on/off - what is the suggested pattern?
no sided with DSMO Clen use... it doesnt build up in the blood to cause anyI'm sure this is in the thread somewhere but it's a long a$$ thread- what are the chances of typical clen sides with this? I always steered clear of clen orally because I can't stand the jittery feeling of heavier stims.
Hard to tell without doing it solo and getting a DEXA. I continued oral yohimbine, caloric deficit, etc... so how do you pinpoint? I'd say if you don't have a timeline to hit a certain BF% - then just a deficit with some Yohimbine and/or Primatene (E-HCL) is the most cost effective way...you'll get there eventually. But if you have some disposable income, it can help. I mean, maybe sweating doesn't = fat burning... but I physically start dripping sweat from the application sites when using it, especially with Clen added. But you aren't going to go from 15% to 10% after one bottle, either.What are some of the effects ppl have noticed with the use of Clen and Eviscerate?
How noticeable and quick are the results?
Thanks. I guess I was wondering if the addition of the Clen to the Eviscerate had dramatic increase in action? No sense for me to add something else if the addition isn't too noticeable. I liked the idea of the localized fat loss potential as well as the stim-free effects of the Clenviscerate.Hard to tell without doing it solo and getting a DEXA. I continued oral yohimbine, caloric deficit, etc... so how do you pinpoint? I'd say if you don't have a timeline to hit a certain BF% - then just a deficit with some Yohimbine and/or Primatene (E-HCL) is the most cost effective way...you'll get there eventually. But if you have some disposable income, it can help. I mean, maybe sweating doesn't = fat burning... but I physically start dripping sweat from the application sites when using it, especially with Clen added. But you aren't going to go from 15% to 10% after one bottle, either.
The weather is cooling off here, so I'll switch back to OG. During the summer months, smolder is the most I can handle.Thanks. I think I will give it a go then. I may run the Clen with Smolder to start and see just how much it burns lol.
Smolder + Clen is the perfect amount of 'burn' for me.
Hey dsade - Can we add water or isopropyl alcohol to the empty bottle, to get that *last* application out? You know, the stuff that clings to the sides?
You do realize that this goes on your skin - right? I too thought about the DMSO (or whatever the carrier is) with the alcohol, but if the inventor says it's G2G...isopropyl alcohol is not something you should consume my friend. everclear is what you want.
By when you think you will have all these goodies back in stock?We're still making up Smolder back orders, then we'll knock out OG, Eviscerate +, and the Burn Free.
looked into this cause i started to question my superstition from dealing with other chems in liquid solutions unrelated to performance enhancement- found isopropyl in other transdermals so i just being paranoid from semi unrelated experience.You do realize that this goes on your skin - right? I too thought about the DMSO (or whatever the carrier is) with the alcohol, but if the inventor says it's G2G...
No prob, I thought about it too... but not before I actually used Isopropyl a few months ago, and didn't die doing it I just wanted to confirm with dsade on what he thought was best. Thanks for looking out!looked into this cause i started to question my superstition from dealing with other chems in liquid solutions unrelated to performance enhancement- found isopropyl in other transdermals so i just being paranoid from semi unrelated experience.
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