CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

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Cycling confirmation: I'm seeing 2 Days On, 2 Off... and 2 Weeks on, 2 Off. Got my Clen, what cycling scheme? (I'm very Stim Tolerant).
 

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Hey, this is still around! I was literally just talking about this yesterday with some buddies! Several vouched for it's effectiveness! I've been meaning to try this for far too long, I should re-read this thread and make it happen. Localized Clenbuterol freeing stubborn fat without resulting in systemic shaking and cramping, sounds fantastic!
 
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I think there is some eviscerate available on AMAZON, and NutraPlanet
 

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I think there is some eviscerate available on AMAZON, and NutraPlanet
Hey! It's Dsade! You were the reason I wanted to try this, years and year back reading your posts on Mind and Muscle when it was still mostly the Avant guys. I'll have to try and snag some Eviscerate via Amazon or NutraPlanet. Are you still selling it rather well?
 
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Hey! It's Dsade! You were the reason I wanted to try this, years and year back reading your posts on Mind and Muscle when it was still mostly the Avant guys. I'll have to try and snag some Eviscerate via Amazon or NutraPlanet. Are you still selling it rather well?
It's consistently my best seller, we're just in the midst of moving to a new production facility.

You know I am releasing updated formulas for all of the Leptigens too, right? I've been working again with Par Deus for a while on them.
 

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It's consistently my best seller, we're just in the midst of moving to a new production facility.

You know I am releasing updated formulas for all of the Leptigens too, right? I've been working again with Par Deus for a while on them.
That's good to hear! I have to be honest, I always thought the products from back in the day were too ahead of their time. Leptigen is great on paper, but I don't think people grasped exactly how it worked. Same with Phenogen, which I used with pretty good results. I'm glad Eviscerate is selling well and you are releasing updated Leptigens! And that Par Deus hasn't disappeared entirely! Is Spook still around? I remember his SpookyDerm formulation, always wanted to try that as well.
 
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That's good to hear! I have to be honest, I always thought the products from back in the day were too ahead of their time. Leptigen is great on paper, but I don't think people grasped exactly how it worked. Same with Phenogen, which I used with pretty good results. I'm glad Eviscerate is selling well and you are releasing updated Leptigens! And that Par Deus hasn't disappeared entirely! Is Spook still around? I remember his SpookyDerm formulation, always wanted to try that as well.
Nobody has been able to find Spook, not even Par Deus.

I started my career there, and have not stopped studying, learning, and my work (hopefully) shows it.
 

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Nobody has been able to find Spook, not even Par Deus.

I started my career there, and have not stopped studying, learning, and my work (hopefully) shows it.
That's too bad, Spook was a very knowledgeable guy, I liked his write ups and outside the box thinking. Back in 2005 when I joined M&M, I lurked, followed all the posts, there was a lot of good information there. I remember seeing your posts quite a bit, which is why I was pleasantly surprised to see you post here! I think your work speaks for itself, and that being said, I definitely plan on grabbing some Eviscerate in the near future!
 
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That's too bad, Spook was a very knowledgeable guy, I liked his write ups and outside the box thinking. Back in 2005 when I joined M&M, I lurked, followed all the posts, there was a lot of good information there. I remember seeing your posts quite a bit, which is why I was pleasantly surprised to see you post here! I think your work speaks for itself, and that being said, I definitely plan on grabbing some Eviscerate in the near future!
If you're in the UK then you should be able to grab it from Predator. Just going off your sig.
 

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If you're in the UK then you should be able to grab it from Predator. Just going off your sig.
Oh, I'm actually in the sticks out here in Ohio. I just represent Olympus UK. I think figure Amazon is my best bet!
 
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Oh, I'm actually in the sticks out here in Ohio. I just represent Olympus UK. I think figure Amazon is my best bet!
Cool...I temporarily find myself in Ohio as well. Long story.
 
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So I went with a 3 Day On, 1 Day Off (of Clen) cycle. I alternate cardio with resistance days, so this gives me two cardio days and a weight day with Clen.

Man! Clen makes Smolder HOT! Sweat instantly starts to occur. I wait about 45 mins and then jump into the cardio.
 
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I started clenviserate on Monday! Today was the first workout with it on overnight and man was it still kicking! Loved the burn!!
 
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I started clenviserate on Monday! Today was the first workout with it on overnight and man was it still kicking! Loved the burn!!
If you're a masochist, put an ab belt on the mid section firmly tight. It kicks the burn up about another thousand degrees. I can't make it through a whole workout without shedding the belt. Lol.
 
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Nobody has been able to find Spook, not even Par Deus.

I started my career there, and have not stopped studying, learning, and my work (hopefully) shows it.
Wow. Not even able to find them. Hope nothing bad happened. Crazy how people go from super active to abruptly disappearing on these boards.

I can see tapering off slowly then moving on.

Regardless. They were some BAD MOFO's in their time for sure.
 

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I'm sure this is in the thread somewhere but it's a long a$$ thread- what are the chances of typical clen sides with this? I always steered clear of clen orally because I can't stand the jittery feeling of heavier stims.
 
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I'm starting a "client" on this today. Major lower body fat deposits that are easy to target.

She's rolling Epitome/Ammo/gut health and Clenviscerate.
I wanted to wait until the hot weather abated a bit, but now's the time.
 
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Individuals vary, so go slow and methodical with yourself - but not only do I have NO Clen sides transdermally, I can bump the mcg dosages through the roof and still be fine. I started out with the usual 50-100mcg from a dropper (200mcg per ML), which was like 3 drops per front/sides/legs. I'm up to about 5 drops per "site" - I basically add 5 drops to wherever I put the Eviscerate... must be 1-1.5 ML. Don't know if I'm wasting product, but I definitely have no problems. Just ran out of an 8oz Smolder and still have about 2/3 of a bottle of Clen left. I ended up doing 1 day on, 1 day off - I just apply for my every other day cardio. I train 7 days/week alternating cardio and weights.
 
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If you're a masochist, put an ab belt on the mid section firmly tight. It kicks the burn up about another thousand degrees. I can't make it through a whole workout without shedding the belt. Lol.
Heck no! I don't think I could handle that! I'm just getting used to when it really kicks up. Plus, I only have the smolder! Lol


Somehow I just saw the 2x's a day application part... I've seen varied notes on how many days on/off - what is the suggested pattern?
 
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Heck no! I don't think I could handle that! I'm just getting used to when it really kicks up. Plus, I only have the smolder! Lol


Somehow I just saw the 2x's a day application part... I've seen varied notes on how many days on/off - what is the suggested pattern?
I believe 2 days smolder+Clen then 2 days smolder solo. Follow that rotation for 2 weeks, then take 2 weeks without Clen. I add 50 mcg twice daily, first thing am and try for 1 hour preworkout.
 
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What are some of the effects ppl have noticed with the use of Clen and Eviscerate?
How noticeable and quick are the results?
 
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I'm sure this is in the thread somewhere but it's a long a$$ thread- what are the chances of typical clen sides with this? I always steered clear of clen orally because I can't stand the jittery feeling of heavier stims.
no sided with DSMO Clen use... it doesnt build up in the blood to cause any
 
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I am experimenting with AB FX fat burn gel with CLEN to see how it works... it most def gets HOT
 
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I believe 2 days smolder+Clen then 2 days smolder solo. Follow that rotation for 2 weeks, then take 2 weeks without Clen.

this is the best usage pattern .... Clen will still down regulate the receptors even thru DSMO
 
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What are some of the effects ppl have noticed with the use of Clen and Eviscerate?
How noticeable and quick are the results?
Hard to tell without doing it solo and getting a DEXA. I continued oral yohimbine, caloric deficit, etc... so how do you pinpoint? I'd say if you don't have a timeline to hit a certain BF% - then just a deficit with some Yohimbine and/or Primatene (E-HCL) is the most cost effective way...you'll get there eventually. But if you have some disposable income, it can help. I mean, maybe sweating doesn't = fat burning... but I physically start dripping sweat from the application sites when using it, especially with Clen added. But you aren't going to go from 15% to 10% after one bottle, either.
 
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Hard to tell without doing it solo and getting a DEXA. I continued oral yohimbine, caloric deficit, etc... so how do you pinpoint? I'd say if you don't have a timeline to hit a certain BF% - then just a deficit with some Yohimbine and/or Primatene (E-HCL) is the most cost effective way...you'll get there eventually. But if you have some disposable income, it can help. I mean, maybe sweating doesn't = fat burning... but I physically start dripping sweat from the application sites when using it, especially with Clen added. But you aren't going to go from 15% to 10% after one bottle, either.
Thanks. I guess I was wondering if the addition of the Clen to the Eviscerate had dramatic increase in action? No sense for me to add something else if the addition isn't too noticeable. I liked the idea of the localized fat loss potential as well as the stim-free effects of the Clenviscerate.
After 8 weeks on GW I have noticed a definite loss in body fat (somewhere in the realm of 4-5%). I am going to be ending my GW run shortly and was looking to further the fat decrease with something like the Clenviscerate option.
 
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Having designed the Eviscerate and used it steadily for 8 years, the difference with and without the Clen is pretty dramatic.
 
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Thanks. I think I will give it a go then. I may run the Clen with Smolder to start and see just how much it burns lol.
 
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Thanks. I think I will give it a go then. I may run the Clen with Smolder to start and see just how much it burns lol.
The weather is cooling off here, so I'll switch back to OG. During the summer months, smolder is the most I can handle.
 
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Smolder + Clen is the perfect amount of 'burn' for me.

Hey dsade - Can we add water or isopropyl alcohol to the empty bottle, to get that *last* application out? You know, the stuff that clings to the sides?
 
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I would use alcohol for sure.
 

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Soooo that eviscerate or eviscerate+ restock I've been after for months?
 
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isopropyl alcohol is not something you should consume my friend. everclear is what you want.

Smolder + Clen is the perfect amount of 'burn' for me.

Hey dsade - Can we add water or isopropyl alcohol to the empty bottle, to get that *last* application out? You know, the stuff that clings to the sides?
 
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Because if my back injury, I was forced to contract out production. We're still making up Smolder back orders, then we'll knock out OG, Eviscerate +, and the Burn Free.
 
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isopropyl alcohol is not something you should consume my friend. everclear is what you want.
You do realize that this goes on your skin - right? I too thought about the DMSO (or whatever the carrier is) with the alcohol, but if the inventor says it's G2G... :)
 
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keep us informed ... i got a new GOODIE to add to the mix.... but i need to try it first on myself
 
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as the father on CLENviscerate... i have to see what can take this wonderful cutting agent to the next level... it has to be stim-free. and i have something NEW to stack with CLENviscerate for localized stim free cutting. ... get your pop corn ready
 
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You do realize that this goes on your skin - right? I too thought about the DMSO (or whatever the carrier is) with the alcohol, but if the inventor says it's G2G... :)
looked into this cause i started to question my superstition from dealing with other chems in liquid solutions unrelated to performance enhancement- found isopropyl in other transdermals so i just being paranoid from semi unrelated experience.
 
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looked into this cause i started to question my superstition from dealing with other chems in liquid solutions unrelated to performance enhancement- found isopropyl in other transdermals so i just being paranoid from semi unrelated experience.
No prob, I thought about it too... but not before I actually used Isopropyl a few months ago, and didn't die doing it :) I just wanted to confirm with dsade on what he thought was best. Thanks for looking out!
 

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