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CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

DRENN said:
ok awesome i appreciate it, BUt also im taking a few other sups right now like E-bol and C-bol....with taking EC have any sort of negative effects with this?
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e-bol and c-bol should be fine stacked with them.
 
tortuga said:
This sounds like an amazing thing. Probably not for noobs though right?
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What's your bodyfat percentage and pain threshhold?
 
I guess I've grown used to it. Although parts of my last round of it was a little unpleasant.

If I don't feel that burn, I'm not happy :)
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Yeah, it hurts like hell. Really bad. First week, I actually had to cut workouts short. Then moved to post WO applications. Now I'm able to stomach it...pardon the pun.
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We'll be doing a Cap-Free version, called E-Wuss-erate, soon.
 
Hey if i put my first dose on around 9:30 this morning, when is it ok to put it on again. I was gunna put my second on right now at about 3:15
 
DRENN said:
Hey if i put my first dose on around 9:30 this morning, when is it ok to put it on again. I was gunna put my second on right now at about 3:15
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Let your body tell you.

Those're about the same times I apply.
 
DRENN said:
ok i put it on since it wasnt really burning. How come when i applied it this morning it took like 3 hours to start burning?
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People are different the way they react - conductivity of nerves, hydration levels, skin dryness, exfoliation level (dead skin creates a barrier), etc.
 
Another question, By the way i really appreciate the good answers ive received. But how long has this been around? Is it fairly new or been used for sometime now.
 
DRENN said:
Another question, By the way i really appreciate the good answers ive received. But how long has this been around? Is it fairly new or been used for sometime now.
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Eviscerate itself has been out for about a year. The formula that forms the base, Napalm, has been out for about 2.5 years.
 
Well both times i put on this stuff i didnt feel any sort of burn. Yesterday i felt it both times? should i put more clen on then? im putting 3 pumps of eviscerate and 40mcg clen. DO i not wanna put it on more than 2 times a day?
 
How would taking Clenevis compare to taking Evis and clen orally? I am planning on using Halovar and these two for a cut/recomp in a few weeks. Just trying to figure out the best route.
 
bmw8591 said:
How would taking Clenevis compare to taking Evis and clen orally? I am planning on using Halovar and these two for a cut/recomp in a few weeks. Just trying to figure out the best route.
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Pretty sure the point here is the targeted use of the clen vs. systemic. Using targeted applications means avoiding the side effects of clen. Doing so allows you to maximize the benefits of clen in the desired target spot while creating the possibility to stack with other systemic products to maximize overall results.
 
scott72 said:
Clen taken orally is brutal. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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ditto. shakes, racing heart w/ angina symptoms, cramps...you can keep that sh!t. Since I first learned of the napalm/clen method, and now clenviscerate, I haven't seen a need (and def. won't) to eat that stuff again, since I can still reap the rewards w/out the sides. Personally, I'm noticing real leaning out of my ab region.

Going 2 weeks off after today, then back on with the addition of a little fatburner I capped using 200mg raspberry ketones, 200mg caffeine and 25mg PEA, w/ an intended 2 doses daily! Going to stack that w/ 20mg yohimbine over 4 daily doses.

Was also considering tacking 75mg E onto it over 3 doses. We have a consensus on receptor downreg yet? Think I can use the E during my "on" weeks and cycle off for the "off" weeks, to keep receptors working right?
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Was also considering tacking 75mg E onto it over 3 doses. We have a consensus on receptor downreg yet? Think I can use the E during my "on" weeks and cycle off for the "off" weeks, to keep receptors working right?
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I've been taking a combo of 50mg E and Recreate that has been working great for me. I plan on stacking this with clenviscerate starting monday. I'll be reporting on my progress, so you should have a definitive answer on how this works out before you'll be starting your next round. :thumbsup:
 
Is there a need to cycle this stuff like you would clen orally? And taking an ECaY stack would be a good systemic fat burner to use in addition to the clenviscerate? Thanks for the help guys.
 
I dont get it, im not really getting a burning ever. I got it the first day, second day got little, third had none. Just put it on today and im just getting some stomach cramps. That normal? Also it took like 3 horus to start burning on the first day.
 
kap09 said:
I've been taking a combo of 50mg E and Recreate that has been working great for me. I plan on stacking this with clenviscerate starting monday. I'll be reporting on my progress, so you should have a definitive answer on how this works out before you'll be starting your next round. :thumbsup:
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Great! Looking forward to it.
 
DRENN said:
I dont get it, im not really getting a burning ever. I got it the first day, second day got little, third had none. Just put it on today and im just getting some stomach cramps. That normal? Also it took like 3 horus to start burning on the first day.
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How many grams of calcium are you taking per day?
 
DRENN said:
idk taking my multi which has like 210mg
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Wow...major underdosing on the calcium, which is required for nerve transmission and is also essential for the proper working on TRPV1 receptors/signalling.

It's also ESSENTIAL for musclular contraction.
 
dsade said:
Wow...major underdosing on the calcium, which is required for nerve transmission and is also essential for the proper working on TRPV1 receptors/signalling.

It's also ESSENTIAL for musclular contraction.
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alright well how much should i be taking? Also what else is required to take with this that i might be unaware of.
 
I would recommend picking up some TUMS extra strength (store brand is fine) and dropping 2 of them about a half hour before workout.

Take 600mg of calcium in the morning in addition to your multi.

Try this for 4 days and let me know:

Change in nerve sensitivity as related to Eviscerate
strength changes
libido increases
 
got my clen today and can't wait for my evis to arrive to get this thing going. looks like monday.

also, have any of you hear of hfr by barmensen labs? it's like a transdermal aakg supp. forgot i had the majority of a bottle left from a sample i got back in the day. any thoughts on using this as a transdermal carrier for my clen until monday?
 
kap09 said:
got my clen today and can't wait for my evis to arrive to get this thing going. looks like monday.

also, have any of you hear of hfr by barmensen labs? it's like a transdermal aakg supp. forgot i had the majority of a bottle left from a sample i got back in the day. any thoughts on using this as a transdermal carrier for my clen until monday?
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I wouldn't trust anyone dishonest enough to make a transdermal AAKG supplement to have a remotely decent carrier...and doubtful it is localized.
 
dsade said:
I wouldn't trust anyone dishonest enough to make a transdermal AAKG supplement to have a remotely decent carrier...and doubtful it is localized.
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i was leaning toward holding off anyway. i'm sure a few days won't hurt.

i would have never bought the stuff, but for free it was worth trying. it did a decent job of what it said it would do...20 mins preworkout and i did get some pretty decent pumps from it. obviously not good enough to continue using the stuff and finish the bottle since it's still around...

wish you guys weren't on the other side of the country dsade! that fedex truck needs to pick up the pace and get my goods to me!
 
just opened my clen up to realize it has a pump on the bottle. guess i'd be waiting anyway until i pickup a 1ml dropper somewhere....
 
kap09 said:
i was leaning toward holding off anyway. i'm sure a few days won't hurt.

i would have never bought the stuff, but for free it was worth trying. it did a decent job of what it said it would do...20 mins preworkout and i did get some pretty decent pumps from it. obviously not good enough to continue using the stuff and finish the bottle since it's still around...

wish you guys weren't on the other side of the country dsade! that fedex truck needs to pick up the pace and get my goods to me!
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Nutraplanet is in Atlanta. We are in Ohio. :)
 
dsade said:
Nutraplanet is in Atlanta. We are in Ohio. :)
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damn, the association between the two companies has become that strong i guess, haha.

ohio and atlanta are both pretty much other side of the country for me anyway. too bad i'm not still in western pa (never thought i'd say that)
 
dsade said:
Just like Christmas!
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It sure is!

Just applied my first dose. 1.5 pumps on each side of the abs mixed with 40mcg. Just a slight tingle so far.

Thinking I might start up a log separate of this thread to track progress...
 
So the consensus is 40mcg of clen mixed with enough eviscerate to cover the desired the area twice a day 12 hours apart. 2 days on, 2 days off. 2 weeks abs, chest, traps then 2 weeks arms, back. Is that all correct?

Also, is there a time after applying the clenviscerate that I shouldn't shower to let it fully absorb or is it quickly absorbed?
 
T50 said:
So the consensus is 40mcg of clen mixed with enough eviscerate to cover the desired the area twice a day 12 hours apart. 2 days on, 2 days off. 2 weeks abs, chest, traps then 2 weeks arms, back. Is that all correct?

Also, is there a time after applying the clenviscerate that I shouldn't shower to let it fully absorb or is it quickly absorbed?
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The 40mcg reference has generally been in regards to abdominal use. It may not apply in other areas. I would consider the size of the area you're applying to (40mcg in a smaller area would have a greater concentration in a smaller amount of evis)

I plan on running this 2 weeks straight and then making a decision at that point regarding future use.

It absorbs pretty fast after application in terms of not being sticky, messing with the clothes, etc. That said, I accidentally touched my stomach and then eye about 3 hours after my first application and it was a rude awakening. DSADE can probably provide a better idea of the time it takes for the transdermal magic to happen.

I would think the best shower times would be right before another dose. In my case I've been making a point to shower right before my morning or night application.
 
So if you go 2 days on 2 days off on the 2 days off do you still use straight eviscerate or nothing at all? Also, where's the best place to get a metered dropper?

I'm planning on running CEL Suppress C and then clenviscerate (Not running them at the same time). Do you guys think that will be okay?

Are there any other supplements that are needed to make this effective? I believe Dsade said something about a nutrient shuttle to carry the freed up fat into cells to be burnt.
 
Mikey851 said:
So if you go 2 days on 2 days off on the 2 days off do you still use straight eviscerate or nothing at all? Also, where's the best place to get a metered dropper?

I'm planning on running CEL Suppress C and then clenviscerate (Not running them at the same time). Do you guys think that will be okay?

Are there any other supplements that are needed to make this effective? I believe Dsade said something about a nutrient shuttle to carry the freed up fat into cells to be burnt.
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You should incorporate a systemic fat burner, like DCP/AlphaBurn or the stim of your choice.
You should also keep your fish oil intake high.
 
kap09 said:
The 40mcg reference has generally been in regards to abdominal use. It may not apply in other areas. I would consider the size of the area you're applying to (40mcg in a smaller area would have a greater concentration in a smaller amount of evis)

I plan on running this 2 weeks straight and then making a decision at that point regarding future use.

It absorbs pretty fast after application in terms of not being sticky, messing with the clothes, etc. That said, I accidentally touched my stomach and then eye about 3 hours after my first application and it was a rude awakening. DSADE can probably provide a better idea of the time it takes for the transdermal magic to happen.

I would think the best shower times would be right before another dose. In my case I've been making a point to shower right before my morning or night application.
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So if I wanted to dose it like this:

2 Weeks – Abs, Obliques, Chest
2 Weeks – Arms, Shoulders, Back

Would I use 40mcg Abs/Obliques, 20mcg Chest, 10mcg Each Arm/Shoulder, 40mcg Back/Traps? How does that dosing sound? It would be a total of 120mcg of clen a day but spread out over a few parts.
 
Hi guys,

I've following this thread, and planning to use clenviscerate soon.
Please let me know if this is right :
since napalm will use total of 3000mcg for whole bottle (120 ml), then Evis (180 ml) will use around 4500 mcg clen....is this right?

Also, I'm still not sure about the dosage frequency :
- 3-4 pumps 1x / day (since I read that clen will stay in your system around 36 hrs)
- 1 dosage every other day
- 1 dosage clenvis AM & 1 dosage plain evis PM

which one is best? I also plan to use systemic fat burners....

Sorry if this question has been asked, like, thousand times LOL


thanks
 
ninociamik said:
Hi guys,

I've following this thread, and planning to use clenviscerate soon.
Please let me know if this is right :
since napalm will use total of 3000mcg for whole bottle (120 ml), then Evis (180 ml) will use around 4500 mcg clen....is this right?

Also, I'm still not sure about the dosage frequency :
- 3-4 pumps 1x / day (since I read that clen will stay in your system around 36 hrs)
- 1 dosage every other day
- 1 dosage clenvis AM & 1 dosage plain evis PM

which one is best? I also plan to use systemic fat burners....

Sorry if this question has been asked, like, thousand times LOL


thanks
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Not sure I understand your first question. Are you referring to the appropriate amount to mix into the bottle of evis? Or just trying to plan your supply? Either way, this will depend on the concentration of your product (mcg/ml)

As for dosing, most people are running two applications a day (clen included) If you read up on clen oral use, many people split their dose. When considering the halflife, spread dosages actually maintain a more consistent level with minimal sides and less up and down peakiness. This is a little less relevant with clenvis, as the sides are nonexistent (in my experience so far).

My dosing pretty much follows standard usage based on this thread. 40mcg clen mixed with 2-3 pumps evis, 2 times daily, 12 hours apart. The jury seems to still be out on the need for 2on/2off dosing. I'm doing a 2 week run straight through.

I'm using recreate and e/c as my systemic burners and so far so good.

Hope that helps a bit!
 
T50 said:
So if I wanted to dose it like this:

2 Weeks – Abs, Obliques, Chest
2 Weeks – Arms, Shoulders, Back

Would I use 40mcg Abs/Obliques, 20mcg Chest, 10mcg Each Arm/Shoulder, 40mcg Back/Traps? How does that dosing sound? It would be a total of 120mcg of clen a day but spread out over a few parts.
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I wouldn't personally suggest that for multiple reasons at this point.

First, oral clen over 100mcg is a lot. Transdermal application has been great as far as eliminating sides so far, but I've yet to read of anyone dosing that high. Earlier in this thread ironpope discussed going over 40mcg in one area and mentioned experiencing sides.

Also, the stuff burns. It's not miserable, but it's not exactly comfortable. In one area it's easy enough to deal with, but I don't think it would be worth having all over the body at once.

If I were to use it in all those spots I'd do abs/obliques as a run, and then pair up the remaining four spots in groups of two like chest/shoulders and back/arms.
 
kap09 said:
Not sure I understand your first question. Are you referring to the appropriate amount to mix into the bottle of evis? Or just trying to plan your supply? Either way, this will depend on the concentration of your product (mcg/ml)

As for dosing, most people are running two applications a day (clen included) If you read up on clen oral use, many people split their dose. When considering the halflife, spread dosages actually maintain a more consistent level with minimal sides and less up and down peakiness. This is a little less relevant with clenvis, as the sides are nonexistent (in my experience so far).

My dosing pretty much follows standard usage based on this thread. 40mcg clen mixed with 2-3 pumps evis, 2 times daily, 12 hours apart. The jury seems to still be out on the need for 2on/2off dosing. I'm doing a 2 week run straight through.

I'm using recreate and e/c as my systemic burners and so far so good.

Hope that helps a bit!
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Hi Kap,

thanks for the info. What I mean is i saw in the avant research website stating that for 120ml (whole bottle of napalm) they add 3000mcg of clen...100mcg/bottle, if I remember correctly. So I figure that since evis is 180ml, i'd add 4500 mcg...but the clen is 200mcg/ml. I wonder if this is correct? the evis that I got is from the first batch, which is runny.

Sorry I wasn't being clear.

thanks!
 
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