Ricky10
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Couldn’t agree more, it’s really shining for me in this department as well. It would be awesome if these effects become even more pronounced as time goes on!
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dsade
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Keep in mind that this is just speculation..
Many times, we can have some kind of nerve impingement or other damage without it reaching the level of conscious neuropathic pain or weakness. Much like a deep cut on, say, your finger or a surgical recovery, when nerves begin to regrow it can be pretty uncomfortable - much like the feeling you describe.
It's possible that you had less than ideal nerve functioning that is beginning to regenerate from the BMP. Good news is that it should resolve pretty quickly, and you SHOULD see better Mind-Muscle connection, balance, etc. Try focusing on something like calf raises and see if you don't notice a pretty dramatic increase in muscle growth and/or strength.
Sparta12
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Now that you've mentioned it... I have this spot on my back where I get pins and needles all the time and a burning sensation, on a scan it showed up as slight calcification or something like that forgot what they said, but it was a small spot. Since starting BMP I havent got that sensation
VegMed
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I agree with all that’s stated above. Love the pumps and endurance. I’m on my second bottle. Officially this is my favorite product to date!
HIT4ME
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I also like to take the BMP pre-workout. Anytime before up to 2 hours seems to give me better workouts. It isn't something I notice necessarily while I am doing it - I just feel like I'm having a good workout. When I'm using it every day and I don't take that dose, I started to notice that my bad workouts tend to be on those days that I don't take it before the workout.
Overall, this is my favorite product on the market today. In the global "best supplement you've ever used" thread - I stated Lipokinetix was my favorite of all time. That stuff would make me lose 15 pounds a month without effort back in the day. It was honestly the best thing I've ever used for fat loss by a LONG shot. And it caused liver damage.
BMP is neck and neck for me with that product - although it is not a fat burner. And in contrast to Lipo, my research on the ingredients reveals a TON of side benefits for health. It may not be as dramatic as Lipo was - but works and it is actually probably very healthy for people. It can also be very effective in a cut or a bulk. I will be using it year round.
Overall, this is my favorite product on the market today. In the global "best supplement you've ever used" thread - I stated Lipokinetix was my favorite of all time. That stuff would make me lose 15 pounds a month without effort back in the day. It was honestly the best thing I've ever used for fat loss by a LONG shot. And it caused liver damage.
BMP is neck and neck for me with that product - although it is not a fat burner. And in contrast to Lipo, my research on the ingredients reveals a TON of side benefits for health. It may not be as dramatic as Lipo was - but works and it is actually probably very healthy for people. It can also be very effective in a cut or a bulk. I will be using it year round.
dsade
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MyoSynergy, the first epicatechin product released in this industry, has a HUGE upgrade coming that will blow you away.
Remember. BMP expression is already highly antagonistic to MyoStatin...and the combination of the two is going to deliver a homerun.
determination
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I used that combo a long time ago and had great results. Probably the most effective natural stack I have ever used. I can't wait to run it again with both of the improved versions.
_Endure_
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Nice, looking forward to this one
jh1
Member
Really looking forward to trying the new myosynergy. Missed out on the original. Can't wait
BigGame84
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Don’t think, just do it! I’m on BMP right now, along with 600mg Epicatechin oral and I’m also on an Epicatechin transdermal product. The synergy is like a light ph cycle. Anxiously awaiting the new Myosynergy product. But in the meantime, try what I am doing.
dsade
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Unlike a PH cycle, BMP gets stronger the longer you take it.
Ptlhains
Active member
Been using OG BMP for over 6 months along with Folidrone (Vector) and switched out OG BMP for new BMP a few weeks - excellent stack. I am excited for Myosynergy as well!
dsade
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Yep, 600mg of Epicatechin is a but much.
Ricky10
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Curious if there are any supplements you are specifically aware of that may inhibit the BMP pathways? In other words, could some of us be unknowingly sabotaging optimal results by taking something else random? Like too much Spirulina (just a random example, and I don’t take any), or even eating too much of a certain food?
On another note, it’s nice to see that (-)-epi is complimentary to BMP, as I am a chronic user of that anyway. Seems that Ursolic Acid is also quite supportive of BMP pathways - would you agree?
Also, I am currently on Toremifene during my PCT. From what I gather, SERMs generally seem to interfere with BMP-2 and BMP-4, but I am curious about your opinion on the impact of SERMs on the BMP pathways we are targeting..
Sorry about all the questions
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ironkill
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Curious if there are any supplements you are specifically aware of that may inhibit the BMP pathways? In other words, could some of us be unknowingly sabotaging optimal results by taking something else random? Like too much Spirulina (just a random example, and I don’t take any), or even eating too much of a certain food?
On another note, it’s nice to see that (-)-epi is complimentary to BMP, as I am a chronic user of that anyway. Seems that Ursolic Acid is also quite supportive of BMP pathways - would you agree?
Also, I am currently on Toremifene during my PCT. From what I gather, SERMs generally seem to interfere with BMP-2 and BMP-4, but I am curious about your opinion on the impact of SERMs on the BMP pathways we are targeting..
Sorry about all the questions
Good questions, look forward to the answers
Drakee
Member
Curious if there are any supplements you are specifically aware of that may inhibit the BMP pathways? In other words, could some of us be unknowingly sabotaging optimal results by taking something else random? Like too much Spirulina (just a random example, and I don’t take any), or even eating too much of a certain food?
On another note, it’s nice to see that (-)-epi is complimentary to BMP, as I am a chronic user of that anyway. Seems that Ursolic Acid is also quite supportive of BMP pathways - would you agree?
Also, I am currently on Toremifene during my PCT. From what I gather, SERMs generally seem to interfere with BMP-2 and BMP-4, but I am curious about your opinion on the impact of SERMs on the BMP pathways we are targeting..
Sorry about all the questions
You know I would love it if Dsdade came up with his own Ursolic Acid product that actually worked, absorbed well. Imagine a real CycloDextrin Ursolic Acid. if its possible to make Im sure it wouldve been done or Dsdade could do it.
The bioavailabilty just isnt very high. Sure patrick arnold has his sprays that Ive tried, but they dont do very much sadly.
Etomic
Member
Not standalone Ursolic Acid, but Top Muscle was pretty damn good with immediate effects.
Ricky10
Well-known member
There is an oral product by another company that offers that (along with some other ingredients), and it has many fans here on AM. It did just get a makeover, but that ingredient remained untouched.
Who knows though, maybe that will be a piece of the the new MyoSynegy Elite!
Drakee
Member
Yeah but I’m sure top muscle would be just as good without it.
The absorption of it just isn’t good enough and was probably added for the synergy benefits.
I remember the hype when PA released it orally but it just didn’t live up to the expectations of all the research on it unfortunately.
Drakee
Member
Name of it,? Or PM I’d just want to see the ingredient list to see what makes it so special.
I’ve seen many ursolic acid products, some with just added black pepper to hope for better absorption/results. All disappointing.
Ricky10
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Well, since it has already been mentioned in this thread...it’s called Hydra Head Six. Just got revamped, so you probably still won’t find a label yet. Ingredients are posted though in the new product release thread within the past few weeks.
max silver
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No offense intended but I'll tend to trust that Dsade knows what he's doing, he doesn't just add ingredients to his formulas for shits and giggles.
Drakee
Member
I believe in Dsades product, along with antaeus labs they're the few companies that I trust with innovation and products that work. Not copycats like 99% of the industry. I didnt mean to imply that he just threw it in like a kitchen sink supplement. Im just saying ursolic acid has had below average results in all the supplements that have been released with it because of its bioavailability. I remember when Patrick Arnold released Ursobolic, they hype was unreal I must have purchased 20 bottles. But it just didnt live up to the hype, the bioavailability is just horrible. So what I was saying is that most likely Dsdade added it knowing it would absorb better with his topical and enhace the absorption along with synergy benefits of the other ingredients.
Cardiotryx was amazing-took it snowboarding and running and I couldnt believe my endurance.
Strafe recovery overnight was like nothing ive ever tried.
Clear Edge is another winner.
BMP is probably my favorite non anabolic supplement. Ive said before it could be anavars younger brother lol
Slintensity and Sleephoria both worked well for me.
Hence I'm a huge fan
DR.D
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Alan,
I'd try a topical anti-histamine spray like Benedryl, or some other OTC analgesic antipruritic (like VapoRub or something with Phenol in it.) Or, a non-sedating oral anti-histamine like Chlorpheniramine. Any of those should combat the histamine release itch from BMP without blatantly compromising results.
Oh, and like HIT4ME said, stay away from shady bathhouses.
I'd try a topical anti-histamine spray like Benedryl, or some other OTC analgesic antipruritic (like VapoRub or something with Phenol in it.) Or, a non-sedating oral anti-histamine like Chlorpheniramine. Any of those should combat the histamine release itch from BMP without blatantly compromising results.
Oh, and like HIT4ME said, stay away from shady bathhouses.
00A
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I believe in Dsades product, along with antaeus labs they're the few companies that I trust with innovation and products that work. Not copycats like 99% of the industry. I didnt mean to imply that he just threw it in like a kitchen sink supplement. Im just saying ursolic acid has had below average results in all the supplements that have been released with it because of its bioavailability. I remember when Patrick Arnold released Ursobolic, they hype was unreal I must have purchased 20 bottles. But it just didnt live up to the hype, the bioavailability is just horrible. So what I was saying is that most likely Dsdade added it knowing it would absorb better with his topical and enhace the absorption along with synergy benefits of the other ingredients.
Cardiotryx was amazing-took it snowboarding and running and I couldnt believe my endurance.
Strafe recovery overnight was like nothing ive ever tried.
Clear Edge is another winner.
BMP is probably my favorite non anabolic supplement. Ive said before it could be anavars younger brother lol
Slintensity and Sleephoria both worked well for me.
Hence I'm a huge fan
20 bottles wtf.. you have money to burn
00A
Well-known member
I believe in Dsades product, along with antaeus labs they're the few companies that I trust with innovation and products that work. Not copycats like 99% of the industry. I didnt mean to imply that he just threw it in like a kitchen sink supplement. Im just saying ursolic acid has had below average results in all the supplements that have been released with it because of its bioavailability. I remember when Patrick Arnold released Ursobolic, they hype was unreal I must have purchased 20 bottles. But it just didnt live up to the hype, the bioavailability is just horrible. So what I was saying is that most likely Dsdade added it knowing it would absorb better with his topical and enhace the absorption along with synergy benefits of the other ingredients.
Cardiotryx was amazing-took it snowboarding and running and I couldnt believe my endurance.
Strafe recovery overnight was like nothing ive ever tried.
Clear Edge is another winner.
BMP is probably my favorite non anabolic supplement. Ive said before it could be anavars younger brother lol
Slintensity and Sleephoria both worked well for me.
Hence I'm a huge fan
20 bottles wtf.. you have money to burn
TommyTuffGuy
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Got my BMP in the mail today. Will start tonight!
Danksta710
Active member
What is your mega dose and do you feel it worked?
Garyboy
Member
Unfortunately I don’t think the Rhodiola in BMP agrees with me. Have been having mild headaches and feeling groggy since starting (have been reading that some experiences these unwanted side effects with RR). Going to stop the BMP, and try again down the road when I’m feeling like myself again.
GreenMachineX
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Any reason BMP would cause a nose bleed? My wife has never had one in her life but had three the past week. Her blood pressure is just fine. Or totally unrelated?
dsade
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Shouldn't be BMP. Not sure about your weather, but ours is ALL over the place, going from bone dry to "holy crap, shoot me" humid.
My sinuses are all dried out.
Ptlhains
Active member
How many weeks in are you? I felt sort of like this for the first two weeks... now I am feeling great starting the next bottle.
GreenMachineX
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lol
Yeah, the weather has been interesting and could be it. Thanks.
About to PM you also.
Garyboy
Member
I just started on Tuesday. By Tuesday afternoon I started feeling out of sorts, and then the next two days I felt worse. Was going to try and push through, but just feeling too crappy. Will give it a go again later this year. Hopefully just a mere coincidence.
Ptlhains
Active member
Ok good luck...maybe try 2 caps a day to start.
TommyTuffGuy
Well-known member
My first day or day and a half of BMP I felt almost sickly. But it has completely gone away and am in a heightened sense of mood now on it.
Avengeme
Member
In a few weeks, I'm going to have to take a week off of all supps. I have about 1.5 bottles left of BMP. Should I bump up the dosage a bit so I finish the bottles before I need to take the week off? Just finish up the open bottle and save the second or just take the week off and hop back on right afterwards?
dsade
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No need to increase dosage. Just take the week off and hop back on.
Danksta710
Active member
Has anyone noticed increased anxiety?
Ptlhains
Active member
@dsade - All things the same (I am utilizing and continue to utilize the same supplements before starting OG BMP): I was using OG BMP for about 6 months straight before switching to the new BMP. For the first 2 weeks, I did not really notice anything except I felt somewhat tired and wondering if the new version is something that may not agree with me.. In week three, the tiredness was replaced with increased viatality. I noticed skin tightening, a leaning effect and incresed pump (especially post food and or water) and a little more strength and endurance. In weeks 4 and 5, I can confidently say now that I am getting at least a 10% gain in strength over OG BMP (which already increased my strength at least 10%). The biggest thing I am noticing is overall recovery and recuperation is way up - and this is under the condtions where I am adding bar weight, adding reps and a couple of new exercises (overall more volume). Sleep quality has been down, but somehow I am getting stronger, leaner and look and feel better? There is a glucose disposal component really kicking in as well. And their is a feeling that I am taking something that is providing a great health benefit. I am a 52 year old powerlifter. Keep up the good work Matt....looking forward to the Top Muscle upgrade brother.
dsade
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My pleasure!
52, though....you should know that there might be some interaction with the Geritol you must certainly be taking at your age.
dsade
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Salidroside has anxiolytic properties. You shouldn't be getting an increase at all, quite the opposite. Personally I feel very very even keeled, almost zen, but I've also been stepping my visual field manipulation combined with binaural meditation before sleeping.
SIDE NOTE: I had my MRI today to submit to the DoD for my final disability re-evaluation/appeal (since they completely ignored my personal and doctor statements regarding my continual spine degeneration in the last one). I really enjoy the MRI sounds, but this was the first time I noticed a similarity between the brain sensations created by binaural manipulation with the whole body vibrations created by what I perceived as a similar "dissonance" created by the MRI machine. Anyone with expertise here confirm? Best way I can explain is a "wah wah" effect as my brain was trying to sync with one tone while the slightly different "off" tone was also trying to sync with my perception, creating a battle between dominant tones trying to grab my full attention.
It's similar to a brain exercise I do using optical illusions. I use a certain type of optical illusion, most notably the type of the "duck/rabbit" or "old lady/young girl" with two images that the brain cycles between, usually only able to perceive one at a time. When you get to the point where you can consciously cycle between the two, you try to reach a point where you can "kind of" see both at the same time. Once you are able to do this, grasshopper, it will be time for you to leave.
Anyway, that's a fascinating subject for its own thread, related to Clear Edge and the other techniques I've touched on above.