@dsade - All things the same (I am utilizing and continue to utilize the same supplements before starting OG BMP): I was using OG BMP for about 6 months straight before switching to the new BMP. For the first 2 weeks, I did not really notice anything except I felt somewhat tired and wondering if the new version is something that may not agree with me.. In week three, the tiredness was replaced with increased viatality. I noticed skin tightening, a leaning effect and incresed pump (especially post food and or water) and a little more strength and endurance. In weeks 4 and 5, I can confidently say now that I am getting at least a 10% gain in strength over OG BMP (which already increased my strength at least 10%). The biggest thing I am noticing is overall recovery and recuperation is way up - and this is under the condtions where I am adding bar weight, adding reps and a couple of new exercises (overall more volume). Sleep quality has been down, but somehow I am getting stronger, leaner and look and feel better? There is a glucose disposal component really kicking in as well. And their is a feeling that I am taking something that is providing a great health benefit. I am a 52 year old powerlifter. Keep up the good work Matt....looking forward to the Top Muscle upgrade brother.