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justice [dot] gov/opa/press-release/file/1143411/download
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/six-individuals-and-two-companies-charged-illegal-dietary-supplement-schemejustice [dot] gov/opa/press-release/file/1143411/download
Yea probably that. They even had employees in on this. Way too many ppl knowing about shady ****. Not a well run conspiracy at all.Yeah or someone was a rat
The dude that claims to be CEO or some **** like that? The guy that talks **** on facebook and instagram?The guy who was extra mad at people for bashing the Guerrilla Chemist products is listed as well
Yup, that guyThe dude that claims to be CEO or some **** like that? The guy that talks **** on facebook and instagram?
I didn’t even realize that was him. Just glossed over the name. Boca james makes sense. He was the main distributor/rep for myoblox, steel, and GC.The guy who was extra mad at people for bashing the Guerrilla Chemist products is listed as well
Wow. Ya, that dude was arguing with everyone that was even asking simple questions.Yup, that guy
It was the Arkansas retailer. Read it closely. He allowed them to set up shipments. Guy probably got nailed for something else and then ratted on PJ and then they started investigating.Yeah or someone was a rat
They are not supplements either.It was the Arkansas retailer. Read it closely. He allowed them to set up shipments. Guy probably got nailed for something else and then ratted on PJ and then they started investigating.
Thing is, msten, dmz and 1-alpha were not "controlled substances". They are NOT on the banned Anabolics list, nor are they on the new Banned ProHormone list. I am unsure how they intend to prosecute a crime, for a law that didn't exist and still does not. You can't retroactively punish someone.
It was the Arkansas retailer. Read it closely. He allowed them to set up shipments. Guy probably got nailed for something else and then ratted on PJ and then they started investigating.
Thing is, msten, dmz and 1-alpha were not "controlled substances". They are NOT on the banned Anabolics list, nor are they on the new Banned ProHormone list. I am unsure how they intend to prosecute a crime, for a law that didn't exist and still does not. You can't retroactively punish someone.
Wesley, we've been through this so many times.They are not supplements either.
You can't just add a steroid, currently scheduled in the US or not, to a dietary supplement. There are guidelines and fda ruled. Methylated doesn't supplement your diet and is not derived from a plant.
``(C)(i) Subject to clause (ii), a drug or hormonal substance (other
than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone)
that is not listed in subparagraph (A) and is derived from, or has a
chemical structure substantially similar to, 1 or more anabolic steroids
listed in subparagraph (A) shall be considered to be an anabolic steroid
for purposes of this Act if--
``(I) the drug or substance has been created or manufactured
with the intent of producing a drug or other substance that
either--
``(aa) promotes muscle growth; or
``(bb) otherwise causes a pharmacological effect
similar to that of testosterone; or
``(II) the drug or substance has been, or is intended to be,
marketed or otherwise promoted in any manner suggesting that
consuming it will promote muscle growth or any other
pharmacological effect similar to that of testosterone.
Exactly. I think people get confused here.Wesley, we've been through this so many times.
Methylstenbolone, dmz, and M1A ARE scheduled drugs as a result of DASCA which was passed in 2014.
Still legal to possess.Exactly. I think people get confused here.
It is not now, nor has it ever been, legal to sell any anabolic steroid as a supplement. Lots of people did it yes and there were all kinds of conversations regarding if particular aas were scheduled in the US but even if they were not an anabolic steroid is not a dietary supplement.
Same with sarms.
Same with all the sketchy stims out there claimed to come from plants but which are 100%synthetic.
And it’s over super dmz 2.0
Great. Next year MSten and dmz will be scheduled.
according to the FDA, the're going to all be scheduled.Still legal to possess.
You can’t just blanket schedule “anything that causes this effect” that isn’t how the law works, even if you write it that way. Which is why we aren’t seeing illegal possession charges and only illegal supplement distribution charges.
It’s illegal to put it into a supplement, that’s true. But unlisted AAS are fair game for possession even if the law attempts to say otherwise. Until it’s specifically listed on the drug schedule by name.
Looks like 4 andro is on that list. That’s ridiculous. And no trest. Buffoons. No idea what they’re doing.according to the FDA, the're going to all be scheduled.
https://medium.com/@anthonyroberts/dea-looking-to-add-four-new-steroids-to-schedule-iii-1bd819b2e8eb
legal to possess for NOW, illegal to be sold as dietary supplements ALWAYS.
His post didn’t even mention possession though, just sale?Still legal to possess.
You can’t just blanket schedule “anything that causes this effect” that isn’t how the law works, even if you write it that way. Which is why we aren’t seeing illegal possession charges and only illegal supplement distribution charges.
It’s illegal to put it into a supplement, that’s true. But unlisted AAS are fair game for possession even if the law attempts to say otherwise. Until it’s specifically listed on the drug schedule by name.
lot of UGLs carry DMZ powder and have for a while nowUGLs carry superdrol and M1T. only a matter of time before they carry MSten and some others as well. They’re strong enough to warrant it.
And then you’ll really see crazy doses. 50mg MSten in one tablet. Stuff like that.
If we’re talking raws, a lot of UGLs have carried ALL of the “legal” steroids for quite awhile now. 1-andro and 4-andro included.lot of UGLs carry DMZ powder and have for a while now
Agreed but the indictment says 2012. I totally agree with you on the PH ban that it "could" infer them. Talking to Rick Collins though, he also said that these compounds were not "prohormones" and that they are not "controlled substances" before this ban. Mind you, we know they were steroids in themselves. They are not "prohormones. But the Feds failed to list them on the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990.Wesley, we've been through this so many times.
Methylstenbolone, dmz, and M1A ARE scheduled drugs as a result of DASCA which was passed in 2014.
And Primordial Performance and Eric P walked away unscathed. They beat it. After 7 years and tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. And Govt seized close to a million dollars in his products, which expired and he lost it all. And they didn't pay it back even though he was found innocent.So they finally go after these guys but they destroyed primordial performance years ago.
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