Stimul8 (And I may be biased, but I'm honest)
I stopped ordering from SP. My last Betaine was over one year expired, and my last THREE orders were all missing products. It's a joke now that mike stopped working with themworst: betaine HCL powder from a smart provider of powders... was labeled as betaine anhydrous. Lets just say taking 3 grams of this stuff on an empty stomach made me feel sick as **** each time until I realized they mislabeled their own product. Still awaiting my refund.best: alphamine, reduce xtdissapointment but not worst: oxyelite vanilla protein. Taste was very average for a vanilla, not bad, but not great
I can't say which products are the worst because I fear some people will become butt hurt.
Best of 2013: TMG pre workout and Agmatine pre bed; both are staple musts.
Worst of 2013: Vanillean
Best of 2013: TMG pre workout and Agmatine pre bed; both are staple musts.
Worst of 2013: Vanillean
It may act as a GDA, which can potentially increase the depth of ones sleep through increased GH pulse during the night.What does agmatine do pre bed? Also yeh what did you notice on vanillean?
Some words on vanillean and why you hated it?
What does agmatine do pre bed?
Also yeh what did you notice on vanillean?
they have really gone down hill, was wondering why but now it makes sense, got a welcome back offer while ago sent to my email but looking at their facebook it seems everything i went through with them with my last orders is happening with others aswell now..note to international byers= avoid them like plague.I stopped ordering from SP. My last Betaine was over one year expired, and my last THREE orders were all missing products. It's a joke now that mike stopped working with them
Just wondering, when did Mike leave?. My last or from them I purchased MCC on sale. They are all pretty close to expiration, I emailed them with questions but never got a response.
Lolwuti take Agmatine and LCLT pre bed and my sleep is much deeper with them, leading to a greater GH release. I wake up refreshed and my body always requires a nice stretch which I have not had recently, I also feel taller after continuous use
Lolwut
The only effect I noticed from the vanillean was a warmer body the first few times pre exercise, not really thermogenic just warmth. This effect subsided and through 2 bottles I didn't notice increased fat loss or body comp effects. The day after I bought it Cooper made a post on its under dosed and relatively ineffective ingredients, well those comments were true.
For body composition TMG at 3g has been special for me, very underrated. Note though it has been continuous use.
I take Agmatine and LCLT pre bed and my sleep is much deeper with them, leading to a greater GH release. I wake up refreshed and my body always requires a nice stretch which I have not had recently, I also feel taller after continuous use; albeit I am 23 and still probably growing. In saying that I am sure agmatine has played a role in assisting growth with the improved sleep.
Thanks for your post Phil,
Are you able to locate Coopers post regarding the underdosing, I am curious which ingredients he thinks are. Cheers
for 2013...
Best: Potassium Nitrate
Worst:....rather not say....
What about non iforce?
Is there such a thing?
Loudy and the iForce reps do a pretty good job staying unbiased. What you're thinking of is...THE MINIONS
Take it for what it's worth, as I said I'm still probably growing regardless of the supplementation...no need to disregard the rest of my post....
What about non iforce?
Loudy and the iForce reps do a pretty good job staying unbiased. .....
Loudy and the iForce reps do a pretty good job staying unbiased. What you're thinking of is...THE MINIONS
It's more of just a respect thing - no need to trash other reps products as it will turn into some tangent argument.It's pretty funny that all the reps post that their products were the best but they don't have the balls to post which products were the worst. Their reply "Rather not say" is hilarious. I think they need to grow some and post the worst they tried in 2013.
It's more of just a respect thing - no need to trash other reps products as it will turn into some tangent argument.
Yeah, I 100% understand... I suppose there's a fine line.You are right but for me as a consumer I tend not to spend my money on products that reps over hype. I realize that they are doing their job but imo they should tone it down some.