Best preworkout?

I usually like non stim preworkouts the best anymore. Hate taking stim ones and feeling dependent on them.

I agree. Lately I've been going non stim pre workout and a cup a coffee or a caffeine pill. I keep the heavy stim pre workouts for leg day and when I just ain't feeling it.

I can't go completely stim free... Need my caffeine.
 
Lots of good stuff in there, the only problem is I wouldn't like the hormonal/cortisol stuff in there. I'm very picky when it comes how I affect my hormones. Could you post the amount of everything?

That's part of the reason I started using CL products way back in the day. We seperate the creatines from the preworkout, etc. This is good when you want to fine-tune a stack, or don't want a particular compound (some people want creatine but no stims, some people want stims but no creatine.) Obviously, if you want everything all in one, a product like A-State would be awesome. Seems like it covers a wide range of bases.

Don't worry. Those compounds at those doses won't affect hormone levels. It's essentially creatine, carbs, and stims.
 
Have you tried a pre work out called rampage by physical edge. Stronger than jack3d but only bad thing is you have come downs and there pretty bad.
 
mrbigdavjb said:
Have you tried a pre work out called rampage by physical edge. Stronger than jack3d but only bad thing is you have come downs and there pretty bad.

Not worth taking a preworkout that makes you crash.
 
When I can't or don't feel like making my own....

White flood for good pumps and great energy without jitters or a crash. Great mood also, especially when I add Synthetic Supps agmatine
 
Clemenza said:
When I can't or don't feel like making my own....

White flood for good pumps and great energy without jitters or a crash. Great mood also, especially when I add Synthetic Supps agmatine

Make your own concoction. Always a fun experience.
 
OrganicShadow said:
Make your own concoction. Always a fun experience.

Using a selection of red bull and black vodka :D
 
craze+hemavol+BCAA+ (caffeine free focusXT)
 
Hemavol and/or Maximize Intense!
 
Hemavol and/or Maximize Intense!

^this x2. Been doing this and a scoop of Compete pre-workout, training has been amazing on that combo :D
 
i never have sex prior, it takes the wind out my sails
 
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