Best pre workout nowadays?

[Rocket3015]

yeah white heat is some powerful stuff for sure. 400mg of caffeine, amp, y=intense.

That might be why I like White Heat before cardio

 

[Rocket3015]

Try VPX White Heat and let me know how it works:yikes:.

Not to long ago I used VPX for about 75 percent of my supplements ( protein, pow, fat burner etc) I had a question about one of they're product, I ask on there forum, sent emails to 3 different addresses on there web page and never did get an answer, I was looking for the answer on the web, stumbled on to a forum called " Anabolic Minds" and have never looked back. Great place, great people, good information, and. A fun place to hang.....thanks for. Having me!

 

[thebigt]

Try VPX White Heat and let me know how it works:yikes:.

i looked at it when it 1st came out, i had forgotten about it....around 10 years ago i tried redline[when it still came in the aluminum can]that stuff was fantastic. when they switched to plastic it suddenly became much weaker, without change on label, lol.

btw shotgun was my favorite pre for several years until they messed that one up...vps seems to be good at screwing up a good thing.

 

[thebigt]

Try VPX White Heat and let me know how it works:yikes:.

i looked at it when it 1st came out, i had forgotten about it....around 10 years ago i tried redline[when it still came in the aluminum can]that stuff was fantastic. when they switched to plastic it suddenly became much weaker, without change on label, lol.

btw shotgun was my favorite pre for several years until they messed that one up...vps seems to be good at screwing up a good thing.

 

[Rocket3015]

You know some of these big companies work so hard to advertise to new customers, spending thousands of dollars, but won't answer one email to keep one they already have. I know I am new to this rep game, but my goal as a rep for Menace Nutrition is to help find new customers, take care of those who need help or have questions and take care of any problems or concerns that arise.

 

[thebigt]

You know some of these big companies work so hard to advertise to new customers, spending thousands of dollars, but won't answer one email to keep one they already have. I know I am new to this rep game, but my goal as a rep for Menace Nutrition is to help find new customers, take care of those who need help or have questions and take care of any problems or concerns that arise.

the company's that have reps on forums care, those are my primary concerns as a rep.

that is a good philosophy to have, good on you!!!

 

[jaces]

No. It's a vasodilator in skeletal muscle, it's a vasoconstrictor in brain tissue

But smooth muscle isnt different in the brain compared to skeletal muscle? So how can this be? And yes I know it activates no production but this depends on to many variables?

 

[Wagz86]

I'm looking for something stim heavy. Redline used to be awesome. Stuff I've tried that doesn't do anything to me is like: jackd, noxplode (the new one), aminolift from usp labs was actually pretty good so was their pre cre. Whatever the vitamin shoppe brand one is also is junk. I dunno. Desperately trying to find something. High caffeine seems to work pretty well for me.

 

[Driven2lift]

I'm looking for something stim heavy. Redline used to be awesome. Stuff I've tried that doesn't do anything to me is like: jackd, noxplode (the new one), aminolift from usp labs was actually pretty good so was their pre cre. Whatever the vitamin shoppe brand one is also is junk. I dunno. Desperately trying to find something. High caffeine seems to work pretty well for me.

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/finaflex-redefine-nutrition-stimul8.html

Well reviewed high stim effect pre.

There comes a point stims in standard amounts wont cut it though, then you need a stim break or you can be a rebel and add in extra.

Stack with a fatburner, add bulk caffeine, or stack with ephedrine.

 

[Wagz86]

All good advice and things I have considered. I've thought of making my own. Since typically you can order the individual ingredients and dose to taste.

 

[jimbuick]

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/finaflex-redefine-nutrition-stimul8.html

Well reviewed high stim effect pre.

There comes a point stims in standard amounts wont cut it though, then you need a stim break or you can be a rebel and add in extra.

Stack with a fatburner, add bulk caffeine, or stack with ephedrine.

Or throw some adrenosurge to get that stim tolerance down and keep on stimming up!

 

[Driven2lift]

Or throw some adrenosurge to get that stim tolerance down and keep on stimming up!

This too!
Adrenosurge is good stuff
Helping me sleep well even with my afternoon stims and workout

 

[koi1214]

I'm looking for something stim heavy. Redline used to be awesome. Stuff I've tried that doesn't do anything to me is like: jackd, noxplode (the new one), aminolift from usp labs was actually pretty good so was their pre cre. Whatever the vitamin shoppe brand one is also is junk. I dunno. Desperately trying to find something. High caffeine seems to work pretty well for me.

STIMUL8 reviews http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/236087-stimul8-40-servings.html

Great product and all you need is 1 scoop.

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/finaflex-redefine-nutrition-stimul8.html

Well reviewed high stim effect pre.

There comes a point stims in standard amounts wont cut it though, then you need a stim break or you can be a rebel and add in extra.

Stack with a fatburner, add bulk caffeine, or stack with ephedrine.

STIMUL8+ephedine=HARDCORE

 

[koi1214]

Or throw some adrenosurge to get that stim tolerance down and keep on stimming up!

I need to try this AdrenoSurge.

 

[jimbuick]

I need to try this AdrenoSurge.

Its good stuff, and the price is usually good at Orbit or NutraPlanet.

 

[Wagz86]

Was just reading up on stimul8. Lots of warnings in bold.... That's a good sign. I'll be ordering it soon

 

[drinkyboy]

Stimul8 is solid

 

[Afi140]

Stimul8 is solid

yeah stimul8 is extremely potent and will get you going for sure. The reviews speak for themselves. Another powerful one with dmaa still in it is aps mesomorph. Both solid options and both high in stims. Can't go wrong with either.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/mesomorph-by-aps-nutrition

 

[simon1972]

Coffee

 

[simon1972]

Coffee

Instant into a glass with whey and milk

 

[Rocket3015]

I'm looking for something stim heavy. Redline used to be awesome. Stuff I've tried that doesn't do anything to me is like: jackd, noxplode (the new one), aminolift from usp labs was actually pretty good so was their pre cre. Whatever the vitamin shoppe brand one is also is junk. I dunno. Desperately trying to find something. High caffeine seems to work pretty well for me.

You may want to look into Driven by Menace Nutrition, it was created for the Stim Junkie like yourself. Right now you can get 30% off with the code below!

 

[Auslifter]

pretty underdosed profile there.

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

pretty underdosed profile there.

agreed

 

[khwaj]

is labelling correct?
Driven Stim Complex is 550mg and caffeine is listed 2nd on list for 375mg

 

[TrainPsycho]

agreed

+2. The ingredients in Menace products look great, just underdosed. (Except for the caffeine)

 

[jaces]

I would say condense(double serving) superpump max and nano vapor are the best pump products ive used ,,, ao supplement sa's hellfire(double serving) and jack3d(double serving) are the best stim products

 

[Danes]

+2. The ingredients in Menace products look great, just underdosed. (Except for the caffeine)

Still dont understand why arginine is still used

 

[Rocket3015]

is labelling correct?
Driven Stim Complex is 550mg and caffeine is listed 2nd on list for 375mg

There is a label problem (order listed) that should be taken care of by now. The picture were pre-production media photos

 

[NurseGray]

There is a label problem (order listed) that should be taken care of by now. The picture were pre-production media photos

Post up the new one

 

[NurseGray]

I don't see a difference from the one on brightmayhem.com

 

[Rocket3015]

I don't see a difference from the one on brightmayhem.com

That is were I got it from. I will work on a pic of a "New and Improved Label"

 

[NurseGray]

Do you know if the current product being shipped out for the logs are the old label or a new one?

 

[Rocket3015]

Do you know if the current product being shipped out for the logs are the old label or a new one?

I do not. I just sent an email but don't know if I will hear back today (Sunday) I will post as soon as I do. Thank you all for your concerns.

 

[koi1214]

Stimul8 is solid

Was just reading up on stimul8. Lots of warnings in bold.... That's a good sign. I'll be ordering it soon

This is the best price for STIMUL8 you will find!!!~
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/redefine-nutrition/the-supreme-stimul8-stack-stimul8-freebies.html

 

[iddc]

Great product and all you need is 1/2 scoop.

Fixed that for you.

STIMUL8 hands down.

 

[thebigt]

What do you guys like in a pre? Stim, Pump, Focus? All of the above?

stim....i am getting older and the doms are more severe, add to that the normal joint aches and pains from many years of sports and lifting, plus a busy work schedule that can be tiring.....

i get a pump pretty easily when i lift regularly, and focus usually isn't an issue-i know what i am there for.....

what i need is the high energy of a stim to get me to the gym feeling like i want to throw around a few tons, once i am in the gym throwing weights i am solid!!!

 

[Grayson]

stim....i am getting older and the doms are more severe, add to that the normal joint aches and pains from many years of sports and lifting, plus a busy work schedule that can be tiring.....

i get a pump pretty easily when i lift regularly, and focus usually isn't an issue-i know what i am there for.....

what i need is the high energy of a stim to get me to the gym feeling like i want to throw around a few tons, once i am in the gym throwing weights i am solid!!!

Just to add to this, it should be a clean stim.

I've found and it has been backed up by research (on my phone so I'll get this later) that adding twice the amount of theanine to caffeine alleviates alot of the negative (jitters) effects of caffeine thus promoting a very nice energized feel.

 

[thebigt]

Just to add to this, it should be a clean stim.

I've found and it has been backed up by research (on my phone so I'll get this later) that adding twice the amount of theanine to caffeine alleviates alot of the negative (jitters) effects of caffeine thus promoting a very nice energized feel.

SOUNDS GOOD....but i am no fan of research,.... i need to see for myself..... if you are correct AND twice the amount of theanine has been added to your companys driven pre-workout, then i will be testing this out soon as i have a jug coming soon.

i have been burned too many times by research and studies, 'this has lots of research and studies behind it so it should be great'...and it bombed!!!

then i find something that works good and the science nerds tell me it's placebo, lol.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

the placebro is real....do not fight the placebro

 

[thebigt]

the placebro is real....do not fight the placebro

i will take placebo over the 'effects' of many products i have tried, lol.

 

[MrKleen73]

Alright guys you want to know the best pre workout, well according to this external source review CONQU3R DemiGod Edition earned 5 stars! Check it out and compare the ratings to other favorites! BOOM!!!!

http://suppwiththat.com/conqu3r-demigod-edition.html

Check the profile too! Awesomeness!

Oh and it goes on sale at Nutraplanet tonight!!!!

 

[LeanEngineer]

Check out the top five at strong supplement shop:
http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/top-5-pre-workout-supplements

Looks like mesomorph has the lead. haha

 

[MrKleen73]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/search?query=conqu3rvital1tyintrosale&utm_********Olympus+Labs+Conqu3r+%26+Vitality+Sale&utm_**********OL+Vital1ty+%26+Conqu3r+Sale&************email

 

[bigal666]

Hey guys need help I'm a caffeine junkie at 50 yrs old can't seem to find a prewk since craze that gives me focus and jolt at same time any suggestions

 

[T-Bone]

Try this. It may not be as strong as craze though because there isn't any meth in it though.

 

[bigal666]

That's what everyone suggest so far thanks

 

[koi1214]

Hey guys need help I'm a caffeine junkie at 50 yrs old can't seem to find a prewk since craze that gives me focus and jolt at same time any suggestions

I to am a stim junkie.and you need to look into STIMUL8 or VPX White Heat if you are a stim junkie.I am using White Heat now and it is great.CONQU3R is very good as well.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/236087-stimul8-40-servings.html

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

I went all stim free because of the higher amount of amentoflavone.

yum... strength gains come at me.

 

[thebigt]

I to am a stim junkie.and you need to look into STIMUL8 or VPX White Heat if you are a stim junkie.I am using White Heat now and it is great.CONQU3R is very good as well.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/236087-stimul8-40-servings.html

stimul8 and stimaholic are both gre8 choices for stimmers...looking forward to trying white heat!!!

 

[bigal666]

I tried stim free just don't cut it for me to much coffee through course of my day