Unanswered Best natural anabolics

Perseus49 said:
Ive ran follidrone several times with great results. Seems to be out of stock everywhere. So gonna use this opportunity to try something new. Anabolic Edge, Vector, or Anafuse. Never used any of them. Plan on picking 1 and running it for 3 months straight. 1. Any thoughts on the different results id see from each? 2. Based on reviews anafuse seems most effective - agree? 3. Anabolic Edge is relatively new so im paranoid about side effects. Thoughts??? Thank you
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I like vector . I don’t remember ana fuse.
 
djbombsquad said:
I like vector . I don’t remember ana fuse.
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I'm an anafuse fan. I used it when it first came out and really liked it. Had good results running two bottles of it back to back. Like said above it's an epi and laxo combined product.
 
Ive been getting sidetracked now with all these different options. Since i still cant find follidrone in stock anywhere ive decided to go with a just straight epicatechin supplement. I know of vital alchemy’s epi & OL’s epi. Any other good options?
 
Perseus49 said:
Ive ran follidrone several times with great results. Seems to be out of stock everywhere. So gonna use this opportunity to try something new. Anabolic Edge, Vector, or Anafuse. Never used any of them. Plan on picking 1 and running it for 3 months straight. 1. Any thoughts on the different results id see from each? 2. Based on reviews anafuse seems most effective - agree? 3. Anabolic Edge is relatively new so im paranoid about side effects. Thoughts??? Thank you
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Perseus49 said:
Good ****. Do you have any other input in regards to my initial questions?
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Anabolic Effect contains 7 high end active ingredients including all three of the ingredients in Vector, double the dosage of the Korean Mistletoe, AND 4 clinically researched licensed branded ingredients (S7, PrimaVie, ActiGin, AstraGin) so I think that is definitely your best option for best results.

Plus, DPS currently had it on sale for 20% off which makes their cost be 39.96 per unit.

As Resolve said above, Epi-Plex is a great option to stack with Anabolic Effect as well. You can find that at great prices many places. DPS is out of stock but has it in transit to them and their price on it with their sale is 27.16 ea.

In regard to your side effect question, Anabolic Effect and Vector both have Korean Mistletoe, Rehmannaie Raddix, and Eriobotrya Japonica and there are no common side effects typically reported with those ingredients. All the additional ingredients in Anabolic Effect are the clinically researched branded ingredients and there are also no common associated side effects with those.
 
Darkhorse192 said:
AE + Mtest is fuckin awesome, and I am not affiliated or logging or anything like that.
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Absolutely agree. I love that stack. M-Test is a staple for me and I'm getting ready to start an Anabolic Effect cycle within the next couple days. I meant to start it today, but life had other plans haha.
 
Presently Vector is listed at 42.99
Use code QUARANTINE for an additional 30% off.
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Will have 3 additional new products up within the next week or so.
 
I have used Vector and Anabolic Effect - At the price Vector is at, its a no brainer, get Vector.
I am not a rep either....
 
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Perseus49 said:
Ive ran follidrone several times with great results. Seems to be out of stock everywhere. So gonna use this opportunity to try something new. Anabolic Edge, Vector, or Anafuse. Never used any of them. Plan on picking 1 and running it for 3 months straight. 1. Any thoughts on the different results id see from each? 2. Based on reviews anafuse seems most effective - agree? 3. Anabolic Edge is relatively new so im paranoid about side effects. Thoughts??? Thank you
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Do you mean anabolic effect ? You wrote edge and not sure if that product exists

I can speak for Anabolic effect have ran it twice and both times loved my run and always looking fwd to trying it next time

AE + anafuse would be a good stack or keep it all CEL and do anabolic effect + epi plex
 
Resolve10 said:
Was a favorite of mine. No longer in production and doubt you can find it anywhere. CEL Anabolic Effect uses the same 2g KME dose that was one of the major benefits of KS that is the same as what is seen in some of the positive KME studies.




CEL Epi-plex is probably the best option for a singular Epicatechin product as far as quality and value goes with an open label. The only other alternative to that that jumps out at me would be Apex Alechemy with their transdermal Epicatechin product, but I haven't felt the need to stray from Epi-plex the last several times I've wanted Epicatechin.
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Do you dose Eipi-plex per the label?
 
Cel epi-plex is one of the best epicatechin product out there .. dose it pre .. if you are taking other supplement or just your protein shake or amino acid .. include one of the dose with that .. does wonders :)
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
Cel epi-plex is one of the best epicatechin product out there .. dose it pre .. if you are taking other supplement or just your protein shake or amino acid .. include one of the dose with that .. does wonders :)
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What effects do you actually see though?

Vector is making me very hungry. Nice stuff.
 
poison said:
What effects do you actually see though?

Vector is making me very hungry. Nice stuff.
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Strength & Vascular increase

Vector was good run for me .. great endurance .. but when i tried Anabolic Effect .. think it hit the home run ..better overall gains .. but it has alot more stuff and makes it a complete natural anabolic
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
Strength & Vascular increase

Vector was good run for me .. great endurance .. but when i tried Anabolic Effect .. think it hit the home run ..better overall gains .. but it has alot more stuff and makes it a complete natural anabolic
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Nice, I haven't tried it yet, maybe next up. I ran 3 bottles of AE, I think I prefer Vector.
 
Z28Luver7777 said:
Epi-plex vs Follidrone? Thoughts?
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depends are you looking for epicatehin alone or with something ?

both are good products .. solo -epi and you know the dose go with epiplex .. if dont care how much you are getting and doesnt overlap with other ingridents in your current run then can run folli
 
Although AE has more ingredients, I found Vector more effective. I think it's still 30 percent off as well which makes it a no brainer.
 
apex-alchemy has 15$ off Epichaos. This is the only Epicatechin product I would use over Folidrone (which is out of stock everywhere btw).
 
Z28Luver7777 said:
Has anyone noticed an effect from laxogenin?

Tried it in the past and can’t say it’s effects made me a believer
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I’ve tried it couple times alone with no luck

But some pple love the stuff
 
creatine or mk67/peptides7(raises your endogenous gh) pretty simple answer..................................... I would like to try some of these natty anabolics laying around.....but I tried follidrone and laxo from hitech stacked to be honest way better gains when on creatine in terms of strength and muscle size.
 
Remember Phyto-Testosterone by Primordial Performance? That was a great product. It contained
Testofen (Fenugreek extract standardized for 50% Fenuside) 400mg & 5-Methyl-7-Methoxy Isoflavone 400 mg.
Is anyone making anything similar these days?
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
Remember Phyto-Testosterone by Primordial Performance? That was a great product. It contained
Testofen (Fenugreek extract standardized for 50% Fenuside) 400mg & 5-Methyl-7-Methoxy Isoflavone 400 mg.
Is anyone making anything similar these days?
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There are some Testofen products out there.
Here's one:

https://www.apex-alchemy.com/

You can also find the Methoxy Flavone.

Have you also checked out Apex-Alchemy's products?
We've got some pretty cool (and popular) stuff:

https://www.apex-alchemy.com/
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
Remember Phyto-Testosterone by Primordial Performance? That was a great product. It contained
Testofen (Fenugreek extract standardized for 50% Fenuside) 400mg & 5-Methyl-7-Methoxy Isoflavone 400 mg.
Is anyone making anything similar these days?
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You don't see Methoxyisoflavone much these days.

We recently released a Fenugreek product but chose to go with Furosap over Testofen because Furosap has some really good studies backing it. And when we had it already in production, an interesting study came out comparing different herbs and testosterone boosting properties and Furosap and KSM-66 outperformed all others.

Here's a link to the study:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-30-veg-caps/

Here's an excerpt:
According to the analysis Ashwaganda extract (KSM66*, increase of 15.3%) and specifically Fenugreek seed extract (FUROSAP* increase of 22.7%) were found to to increase testosterone in young men the most reliably.

"Two studies (42, 64) recruited healthy, young (18–30 y) men. A fenugreek seed extract, Furosap® (250 mg daily), supplemented for 12 wk was associated with a significant increase in TT concentrations (22.7%) compared with the placebo group (−2.0%) in young men (n = 40; 18–30 y; mean: 24.02 ± 3.9 y)"

"While in 57 young males, with a mean age of 28 y, an ashwagandha extract (KSM-66®), at a daily dosage of 600 mg for 8 wk, was associated with a significant increase in testosterone concentrations (15.3% increase) compared with the placebo group (2.7% increase) (P < 0.001)"


Here's a link to the Furosap XT thread:

SNS Furosap XT - Available Now - AnabolicMinds.com

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer Clinically Researched 500 Mg. Dose Per Capsule Ultra-Potent 20% Protodioscin Content 500 mg. Clinically Researched Dose Per Capsule Ultra-Potent 20% Protodioscin Content Furosap® is a specialized patented clinically researched fenugreek...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com

Here's a link to the Furosap XT product and write up:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-30-veg-caps/
 
sns8778 said:
You don't see Methoxyisoflavone much these days.

We recently released a Fenugreek product but chose to go with Furosap over Testofen because Furosap has some really good studies backing it. And when we had it already in production, an interesting study came out comparing different herbs and testosterone boosting properties and Furosap and KSM-66 outperformed all others.

Here's a link to the study:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-30-veg-caps/

Here's an excerpt:
According to the analysis Ashwaganda extract (KSM66*, increase of 15.3%) and specifically Fenugreek seed extract (FUROSAP* increase of 22.7%) were found to to increase testosterone in young men the most reliably.

"Two studies (42, 64) recruited healthy, young (18–30 y) men. A fenugreek seed extract, Furosap® (250 mg daily), supplemented for 12 wk was associated with a significant increase in TT concentrations (22.7%) compared with the placebo group (−2.0%) in young men (n = 40; 18–30 y; mean: 24.02 ± 3.9 y)"

"While in 57 young males, with a mean age of 28 y, an ashwagandha extract (KSM-66®), at a daily dosage of 600 mg for 8 wk, was associated with a significant increase in testosterone concentrations (15.3% increase) compared with the placebo group (2.7% increase) (P < 0.001)"


Here's a link to the Furosap XT thread:

SNS Furosap XT - Available Now - AnabolicMinds.com

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer Clinically Researched 500 Mg. Dose Per Capsule Ultra-Potent 20% Protodioscin Content 500 mg. Clinically Researched Dose Per Capsule Ultra-Potent 20% Protodioscin Content Furosap® is a specialized patented clinically researched fenugreek...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com

Here's a link to the Furosap XT product and write up:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-30-veg-caps/
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Looks like a good product, thanks.
 
sns8778 said:
You don't see Methoxyisoflavone much these days.

We recently released a Fenugreek product but chose to go with Furosap over Testofen because Furosap has some really good studies backing it. And when we had it already in production, an interesting study came out comparing different herbs and testosterone boosting properties and Furosap and KSM-66 outperformed all others.

Here's a link to the study:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-30-veg-caps/

Here's an excerpt:
According to the analysis Ashwaganda extract (KSM66*, increase of 15.3%) and specifically Fenugreek seed extract (FUROSAP* increase of 22.7%) were found to to increase testosterone in young men the most reliably.

"Two studies (42, 64) recruited healthy, young (18–30 y) men. A fenugreek seed extract, Furosap® (250 mg daily), supplemented for 12 wk was associated with a significant increase in TT concentrations (22.7%) compared with the placebo group (−2.0%) in young men (n = 40; 18–30 y; mean: 24.02 ± 3.9 y)"

"While in 57 young males, with a mean age of 28 y, an ashwagandha extract (KSM-66®), at a daily dosage of 600 mg for 8 wk, was associated with a significant increase in testosterone concentrations (15.3% increase) compared with the placebo group (2.7% increase) (P < 0.001)"


Here's a link to the Furosap XT thread:

SNS Furosap XT - Available Now - AnabolicMinds.com

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer Clinically Researched 500 Mg. Dose Per Capsule Ultra-Potent 20% Protodioscin Content 500 mg. Clinically Researched Dose Per Capsule Ultra-Potent 20% Protodioscin Content Furosap® is a specialized patented clinically researched fenugreek...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com

Here's a link to the Furosap XT product and write up:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-30-veg-caps/
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Do you sell the Furosap and KSM-66 together?
 
jameschoi said:
Do you sell the Furosap and KSM-66 together?
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We make both Furosap and KSM-66 as single ingredient products and we do have a special stack deal price for them on the website. Unfortunately, we are out of stock on KSM-66 at the moment but it should be back in within the next 2 weeks.

Here's a link to the stack deal on the site:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/furosap-xt-ksm66-stack/


Under CEL, we also have M-Test that has KSM-66 in it and it makes for a great stack with Furosap XT.
 
Z28Luver7777 said:
@sns8778 how’s the new natty anabolic coming along
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We have several that are coming up.

Optimize-T should hopefully be within the next couple of weeks and then Anabolic XT should be shortly after that.

Then, Recomp 20 and Phosphatidic Acid XT should hit not long after those.

We also have at least 2 natural anabolics planned under CEL. One of those isn't very far out; the other one we are still doing some ingredient testing on so it will likely be a few months.
 
sns8778 said:
We have several that are coming up.

Optimize-T should hopefully be within the next couple of weeks and then Anabolic XT should be shortly after that.

Then, Recomp 20 and Phosphatidic Acid XT should hit not long after those.

We also have at least 2 natural anabolics planned under CEL. One of those isn't very far out; the other one we are still doing some ingredient testing on so it will likely be a few months.
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Has optimize T been having issues coming along? Sourcing or anything, I thought we we up for a label reveal
 
chainsaw said:
Has optimize T been having issues coming along? Sourcing or anything, I thought we we up for a label reveal
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No, it hasn't. Optimize-T will be released within the next couple of weeks. The only thing really pushing it back a little had been keeping existing products in stock where they kept getting pushed in production runs ahead of it and bumping it back. I know that new products are the ones that get talked about the most here, but for us, its the existing products that fun coming out with the new ones so sometimes things get bumped back.

We have labels for probably seriously close to 20 products that haven't been released yet that should be out by the end of the year and we're getting ready to send labels to print for over a dozen more.

As for the label reveal, the reason I never did anything with that as far as discussing the ingredients was that lately I've had some people on here make some smart remarks about delays on new product releases that both really hurt my feelings and irritated me. I like being interactive, discussing products, and helping people. And I'd had a lot of people ask me to tease and discuss new products more but when I did/do, stuff like that started to happen. And it was usually passive aggressive type crap where when I said something about it, they'd backtrack and try to act like they were joking - but to me, its not funny, its my livelihood. I work very hard to try to give people the types of products that they want and really listen to people's input; and I'm the one with the time and money tied up in the raw materials and labels, so absolutely no one wants the new products to come out faster than I do. But basically, I just never made the thread about the reveal or ingredient discussion because I didn't want to deal with anyone being negative in it. I may try to do one later this week or this weekend though bc I do know for sure it should be out soon and then new products should release every couple weeks after that for the rest of the year if all goes as planned.
 
sns8778 said:
No, it hasn't. Optimize-T will be released within the next couple of weeks. The only thing really pushing it back a little had been keeping existing products in stock where they kept getting pushed in production runs ahead of it and bumping it back. I know that new products are the ones that get talked about the most here, but for us, its the existing products that fun coming out with the new ones so sometimes things get bumped back.

We have labels for probably seriously close to 20 products that haven't been released yet that should be out by the end of the year and we're getting ready to send labels to print for over a dozen more.

As for the label reveal, the reason I never did anything with that as far as discussing the ingredients was that lately I've had some people on here make some smart remarks about delays on new product releases that both really hurt my feelings and irritated me. I like being interactive, discussing products, and helping people. And I'd had a lot of people ask me to tease and discuss new products more but when I did/do, stuff like that started to happen. And it was usually passive aggressive type crap where when I said something about it, they'd backtrack and try to act like they were joking - but to me, its not funny, its my livelihood. I work very hard to try to give people the types of products that they want and really listen to people's input; and I'm the one with the time and money tied up in the raw materials and labels, so absolutely no one wants the new products to come out faster than I do. But basically, I just never made the thread about the reveal or ingredient discussion because I didn't want to deal with anyone being negative in it. I may try to do one later this week or this weekend though bc I do know for sure it should be out soon and then new products should release every couple weeks after that for the rest of the year if all goes as planned.
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boner
 
sns8778 said:
No, it hasn't. Optimize-T will be released within the next couple of weeks. The only thing really pushing it back a little had been keeping existing products in stock where they kept getting pushed in production runs ahead of it and bumping it back. I know that new products are the ones that get talked about the most here, but for us, its the existing products that fun coming out with the new ones so sometimes things get bumped back.

We have labels for probably seriously close to 20 products that haven't been released yet that should be out by the end of the year and we're getting ready to send labels to print for over a dozen more.

As for the label reveal, the reason I never did anything with that as far as discussing the ingredients was that lately I've had some people on here make some smart remarks about delays on new product releases that both really hurt my feelings and irritated me. I like being interactive, discussing products, and helping people. And I'd had a lot of people ask me to tease and discuss new products more but when I did/do, stuff like that started to happen. And it was usually passive aggressive type crap where when I said something about it, they'd backtrack and try to act like they were joking - but to me, its not funny, its my livelihood. I work very hard to try to give people the types of products that they want and really listen to people's input; and I'm the one with the time and money tied up in the raw materials and labels, so absolutely no one wants the new products to come out faster than I do. But basically, I just never made the thread about the reveal or ingredient discussion because I didn't want to deal with anyone being negative in it. I may try to do one later this week or this weekend though bc I do know for sure it should be out soon and then new products should release every couple weeks after that for the rest of the year if all goes as planned.
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awesome, thanks for the reply, looking forward to it.
 
Just to throw my 2 cents in, some of the products I enjoy when lean bulking are.

Follidrone 2.0
Epi-plex
Anabolic Effect
Massacr3
BMP

Haven't tried Myosynergy from Evomuse yet but it is something I really want to try.
 
Em3 said:
Just to throw my 2 cents in, some of the products I enjoy when lean bulking are.

Follidrone 2.0
Epi-plex
Anabolic Effect
Massacr3
BMP

Haven't tried Myosynergy from Evomuse yet but it is something I really want to try.
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Great list and similar to mine.
 
Em3 said:
Just to throw my 2 cents in, some of the products I enjoy when lean bulking are.

Follidrone 2.0
Epi-plex
Anabolic Effect
Massacr3
BMP

Haven't tried Myosynergy from Evomuse yet but it is something I really want to try.
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I endorse myosynergy, I have 2 bottles- about 10 days in I ran into some pain issues and I haven't worked out in over 2 weeks, I have also been taking Brite- in short I look no worse , actually look more vascular than when I started- I hope to begin slowly working out again this week but I am very pleased that I look better after 2 plus weeks of not working out than when I started
 
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