rms80
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Good catch- it should be 55.....sad thing is we proofed this thing 4 times, LOL- lot of info to process
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Good catch- it should be 55.....sad thing is we proofed this thing 4 times, LOL- lot of info to process
sanchezgreg18
Well-known member
so that means that you guys are the saying that your AI that you brought to the supplement industry has that Ki value- in vivo or in vitro? how did you measure the Ki value?
rms80
Board Sponsor
Citation 24- Numazawa M, Mutsumi A, Tachibana M, Hoshi K; Synthesis of androst-5-en-7-ones and androsta-3,5-dien-7-ones and their related 7-deoxy analogs as conformational and catalytic probes for the active site of aromatase; J Med Chem. 1994 Jul 8;37(14):2198-205
I can send you the full text study- what is your e-mail?
sanchezgreg18
Well-known member
[email protected]
Thanks I'm actually interested in reading that
Thanks I'm actually interested in reading that
ProteinMurder
Member
Haha, agreed. The consumer is increasingly jaded now days. And rightly so. Another test booster thats "not like the others" That you will need to mega dose, and buy 3 bottles or more to run for an effective time....
FilipeBR
Member
lol I got bombarded with Negative Reps for that comment...I guess I shouldn't really disagree with the supp. comps. :sad3:
But all I mean is...just like u said...in the past 3 months we have been BOMBARDED with Test Boosters, so if you're going to release "THE NEXT GENERATION OF ..." you should make sure it won't be branded as "just another test booster" right?
I never meant to bash on Appnut, even though i'm not a fan because of the products I have tried did not work on myself personally, i know a lot of people have had good experiences with them, I simply made a comment I thought was interesting because usually people have no clue on what the product is and as soon as a Rep opens a thread about a product they start spamming "OMG CANT WAIT!" "You've done it again!!" "Looking out for this one!!"
EasyEJL
Never enough
Its kind of funny that before a single bottle has been sold, or anyone outside of the company has tried it that some people are so sure its nothing special. I'm more than willing to stand by and count on the results from independent non-sponsored logs on the product once people have bottles in hand.
ProteinMurder
Member
There are alot of very intelligent people on here that seem very learned as far as the igredient profile goes Easy. I myself am not one, and dont claim to be. Nor am I saying It's nothing special, merely pointing out the marketing/build up for all these are almost carbon copies!
My issue is more with the convenient running out of bottles right before a month that they all seem to have in common.
So, yeah, I was more agreeing with that guy and adding that supplement consumers as a whole are jaded(rightfully) than specifically saying this is crap or wont work, or targeting APPNUTT either. Hope that clarifies.
Back to the thread i guess.......:fing02:
Cordeen
Well-known member
Once this supplement is released I'll wait for customer feedback and my own personal experience before I judge it, because I really think the "effective dosages" is key in the formula, something other companies may turn a blind eye to. I am confident that AN have done their homework here, sorta like MAN does, same ingredients that we all see but tweaked in a manner that they work the best way possible. I have yet to be disappointed in AN or MAN
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
TexasLifter89
Well-known member
Thanks, Dirk and Don, as well as the others are all very proud of the work they do. Hopefully this will work just as good for you as the other products!
schizm
Well-known member
I see the pre-release sale is May 15...any word when/if there will be some loggers chosen to 'Free test' it ? (pun intended
whhhhhhheeeeeeee!!UKStrength
Guest
I have to agree with this ^^^ I'm sure there will be a lot of sceptics, but I for one am a big fan of App Nut products and will be definitely giving this a test.
Looking forward to the logs and feedback
Cheers for the write-up guys!
AZMIDLYF
Legend
I have to agree with this ^^^ I'm sure there will be a lot of sceptics, but I for one am a big fan of App Nut products and will be definitely giving this a test.
Looking forward to the logs and feedback
Agree..
HereToStudy
Primordial Performance Rep
I think people's problem revolved around the marketing, claiming the ineffectiveness of current prohormones and making it sound revolutionary when in fact the ingredients have been seen before. I don't believe this to be a bad product, I wouldn't pass judgement until I see honest reviews, but the marketing on this will not be matched by the performance, and that I can be pretty sure of, great product or not.
rms80
Board Sponsor
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ProteinMurder
Member
$44 is the sale price?? Please tell me you get at least a 4 week run from a bottle.....????
Mr.50
Board Supporter
Yeah guys.....I love AN and most of the products....but $44 for the sale price?????? and with that said I am hoping the product will produce the stunning results it sounds like (especially if combined with some DAA) but $44 on sale for ingredients that do not appear revolutionary (I know maybe it can be from the proprietary blend but....) .....not sure about this guys. I hope some guys try it and can give it some rave reviews...then I woul dbe willing but....
Mr.50
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
There are 100 capsules in a bottle, and the dosage is 4 caps daily, so a bottle lasts 25 days. Considering the cost of some of the ingredients in FREE TEST, etc., you're pretty much getting it at cost price for that - and it's still cheap for a product that really delivers.
~Team APPNUT
KDLMaj
Member
Say what you will, but I have yet to be disappointed with a single AppNu product. I've used IGF-2, Drive, RPM, Neovar, The One, Lipo-PM, HGHUp, Osteosport and Black Cats. The difference in my body now versus 9 months ago when I started on AppNu products is night and day, and I've got many people hooked on their products based initially on my results. I swear by the stuff and trust their products completely. I've even had blood work done before and after running IGF-2/Drive and found my test levels doubled- so I know for a fact their products do what they claim. The one and only problem I've ever run into: their products are sometimes *too* effective (really didn't need to double my test...)
Personally, I'll be ordering a bottle of this come Monday. I think this company has more than earned the trust of its customers. I've got no doubt it'll do what it claims and more.
Looking forward to running HGHUp/Free Test/Neovar/Lipo-PM together. I'll be sure to post my results.
Personally, I'll be ordering a bottle of this come Monday. I think this company has more than earned the trust of its customers. I've got no doubt it'll do what it claims and more.
Looking forward to running HGHUp/Free Test/Neovar/Lipo-PM together. I'll be sure to post my results.
SamBoz19
Well-known member
You pay for quality. Would you rather pay a cheap price for something that doesn't do sh*t? Free Test is not a cheap product to make. Everyone is always b*tching about price. I understand, but damn if you want quality and you want results you have to pay for it and AN puts out products that actually work and are worth the money.
Mr.50
Board Supporter
Sam I agree with you but it seems like the price of products keeps slowly moving up in these difficult economic times. For example I love PP's products too but some of their prices are getting off the charts.
I think this product might go either way. I hope it turns out to be great. At that point I will gladly give my $44.00.
Mr.50
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Thank you for your support
Another person that has used so many from our line-up - I have personally used every product we have and have had - except for The ONE and 2nd GEAR (for obvious reasons) - and yes, some products are definitely very effective.Interested in seeing your run of FREE TEST/HGHup♂/NeoVar/Lipotrophin-PM. I myself will be running that stack - IGF-2 instead of HGHup♂, though - very soon as well, with Drive, RPM, and BLACK CATS added in as well. Should be fun times!
~Team APPNUT
marco wolf
Member
I'd say, after reading the write up, that the ALCAR/3,7 keto combo would probably work well. From my own experience, I've found that taking a gram or two of ALCAR along with androsterone was synegistic. The ALCAR intensified the effects of the androsterone, which is a metabolite of DHEA with AI properties. So I'd say, give it a chance.
rms80
Board Sponsor
You have the right idea- this is how I began working on the trial and error for this formula- 2 grams of ALCAR plus a readily avaliable AI and a couple of herbals- once you find the right synergism with the ingredients, it feels just like being "on"
marco wolf
Member
I was doing two grams of ALCAR with a dose of the AI in the AM and one gram with a dose about 2 or 3 PM. The PM dose was almost too much. There certainly were some psychoactive effects involved that I didn't notice when either was taken separately.
I think people are in for a surprise, but that's just my opinion.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
The label is huge and clear. As far as ingredients:
Do note that a larger image was already linked - post #112 at Invalid Link Removed, all ingredients are also listed in the product technical write-up, and they have also been listed in other posts in this thread - so please read the entire thread before asking questions that have already been answered here.
~Team APPNUT
sanchezgreg18
Well-known member
THANKS!
Im going to agree that every appnut product Ive used surpassed my expectations. But at the same time I dont agree with the marketing strategy comparing both Free test and HGHup as anabolic near hormonal , and better then Prohormones.
I will say that after reading the study Dirk sent me about 3,7 keto (and other literature I found) I think that this combination of ingredients should work very well and bringing this new AI to the community that is DSHEA compliant (due to being a DHEA metabolite correct me if im wrong) Was a very smart thing.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
They would be fine together.
No worries
We're here in case you get lost ~Team APPNUT
thebigt
Legend
geez rosie, sending anabolicminds forum members to bb. for info is like sending a harvard law student to the elementary school library, lol.
product looks interesting, apnut makes proven products and i am sure this one will be too.
btw-i dig the new avi.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
It was only to a label - since people don't bother to search for themselves.
Yes, FREE TEST is definitely interesting. Watch for the logs, coming soon!
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
!!!Logging Opportunities for FREE TEST!!!
If you want to try FREE TEST, now's your chance. 5 lucky loggers will be selected to run FREE TEST. Apply in Invalid Link Removed (Please note, that you do have to be >18 years, either a US or Canadian resident, and have no other logging commitments to apply).
~Team APPNUT
I see the pre-release sale is May 15...any word when/if there will be some loggers chosen to 'Free test' it ? (pun intended
If you want to try FREE TEST, now's your chance. 5 lucky loggers will be selected to run FREE TEST. Apply in Invalid Link Removed (Please note, that you do have to be >18 years, either a US or Canadian resident, and have no other logging commitments to apply).
~Team APPNUT
Tomahawk88
Well-known member
Im thinking about throwing in an app. Would be nice to see what it does post pct and all.
alwaysgaining
Well-known member
word
but The goal when developing FREE TEST™ was to create a formula that focuses on decreasing the homeostatic mechanisms that lower endogenous testosterone production, while at the same time increasing both the testosterone to cortisol (T:C) and testosterone to estrogen (T:E) ratios favorably.
i think it great but if they made the bottle 29.99 hell yah
alwaysgaining
Well-known member
"During an anabolic steroid or prohormone cycle, testosterone levels rise,"
you guys say this alot in your write up???? really this is totaly inccorect, your test lvls will drop because of your intake of exogeneus androgens. even when u take test, production will drop/stop your own natrual lvls
you guys say this alot in your write up???? really this is totaly inccorect, your test lvls will drop because of your intake of exogeneus androgens. even when u take test, production will drop/stop your own natrual lvls
ProteinMurder
Member
DHEA= Aussies and Kiwi's out of the question :-(
thebigt
Legend
go for it. i am a fan of appnut, so i trust this will be a good product.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
ProteinMurder
Member
Not to customs officials with itchy seize fingers. they wont stop to debate, They will just see the "DHEA" part and grab it up. I'll try anyway, but only on sale price.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Theres a bit of a timing issue in terms of how it works. When you start an anabolic cycle loose testosterone levels rise because the steroid is binding to the androgen receptors and the testosterone doesn't. So for a while the circulating testosterone levels are actually higher than normal as the testosterone has "no where to go". Yes, after a few days the production of new testosterone is shut down, but that isn't really an issue till end of cycle. I'd be willing to place a decent amount of money as a bet that if you took a test level reading the morning before starting a superdrol cycle, and took another test level blood test 4 days in, it would be higher 4 days in.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
It depends on who's on that day, and whether they actually know the list of compounds not allowed because they are either prescription medication or illegal. It also depends on who the product is shipped with (i.e. FedEx have a higher risk of being opened; USPS does not), and how it it labeled, and whether or not there is an ingredient profile in with the product - this can help, especially if there is nothing in the product that would cause it not to pass through Customs. Trust me, I am a New Zealander, and know the system very well.
~Team APPNUT
ProteinMurder
Member
Agreed in reference to your comments on labelling and ingredient profile. Will it be listed on the bottles to ship to Aus? Cause you could definitely save me some money right now!
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
You can see the product label - either here or on our website. All ingredients are listed on every product that we have - along with recommended dosing/timing instructions, and a general disclaimer.
You can ask to have a printout of the product ingredients put in with your shipping slip, so that Customs can see it and the package does not need to be opened (although, I cannot guarantee that they won't open it).
~Team APPNUT