Another log (prioritizing strength)
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Smont
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I woke up today and my left arm dont work. It hurt like a bitch yesterday and I was hoping it was just from how I slept and it's bad today. I dont think antthing is completely torn because depending on the direction my hand is turned or the angle I move my shoulder I can raise it overhead and I have pulling strength. But theres a few paths of motion I have zero strength and it hurts, like 8/10 pain. Gonna ice and rest today and tomorrow, do legs sunday and make a decision on going to the dr. In the meantime. Something is severely irritated or theres a minor tear, maybe not so minor lol
gphagan1
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Oh man that sucks….is it all in the shoulder or is there pain in the connective tissue with the bicep or upper pec? Either way it sounds like you may want to go to the doctor to get some imaging and see if they can help. Hopefully it’s not too major and you can maybe get some therapy from like an ART specialist.
Smont
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All in the shoulder, I dont think it's the rotator cuff, I can pass the behind the back lift test. It's all in the glenohumeral joint. The actual shoulder joint, closer to the front and it radiates a tiny bit down the arm. Like bad tendonitis
Smont
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Ya, it was closer to Christmas I think, but this is not the first time. this does seem worse today, but, 2 days ago it felt great, a week before that it sucked. It's all over the place.
Smont
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Emergency plant chop today, 2 of my best started getting bud rot so I removed the contaminated branches and harvested the rest of those 2. I took 5000 pictures of the ridiculous amount I already started cutting but I would have to screenshot each one and resize it and it's going to take forever so I'll just put up 1 or 2 to give you an idea
gphagan1
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They look delicious…you can almost smell them through the picture.
Smont
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My neighbors said they smell it every morning lol. I did a half ass wet trim and just on those big buds I gunked up a pair of trim shears lol. All the little popcorn nugs I'm just tearing off and I'm gonna speed dry them with the sugar leaves for butter. Il probably smoke some of the little nugs too since they will be dry faster.They look delicious…you can almost smell them through the picture.
I'm going with my buddy's protocol for harvest.
Partial wet trim, dry 7-10 days, then another quick trim and it's going cure another 3-4 weeks. That's his routine for the dispo buds they grow so If it's good enough for the dispensary it's good enough for me
Smont
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As for the log....... I'm not done, I'm staying on test only, gonna ride out 750mg and train what I can. The shoulder inflammation simmered down and I'm just going to pretty much leave it alone. I got a training partner for 5am tomorrow pull + hamstrings. I did some dead hangs today and everything feels ok. But theres a path of motion were it does hurt and goes pretty much dead. So I gotta stay away from that. I have a appointment but the closest they could do was 2 weeks from now and the er where I live does nothing. But honestly I'm hoping it was just a horrible tendonitis flare up
gphagan1
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Yep that sounds about right…..the dispensaries have it down to a science now. And a lot of places you order seeds from will give you the protocol for that strain from germination to drying and curing. But I can tell with the photos you post that you’ve got it down now for sure.
Yeah as we get older you find you have to constantly train around nagging injuries and pains, if nothing too serious. It’s all about knowing your body and injury tendencies and working what you can sometimes. You, Hyde, Kleen you all do it right as far as training around injuries to keep the “ Train” moving. If you don’t it’s easy to start losing it. Hopefully they’ll find that the shoulder is not too bad and just a strain or pull.
Smont
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We decided not to pull, we did some rehab and mobility stuff for my shoulder and we did a light chest workout with nothing heavier then a 45lb db. Basically he wanted to feel out this shoulder a little. Tomorrow morning we pull + hamstrings. If this guy will be able to sync his training with mine and vice versa this could be a good thing. Hes a PT and trains similar minus the boxing.
Hyde
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Don’t eat a box of poptarts
Smont
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I didn't lol. I did make cookies for my niece and I only had 2Don’t eat a box of poptarts
. I'm giving up pop tarts and oreos and cutting my fair life consumption down as well. My gut finally said enough. I'm debating on doing a low fodmap type diet and start fresh reintroducing foods 1 at a time
Smont
Legend
Pull day
We did chins and deadlifts supersets through the warmups.
50 chins and deadlifts up to 405. I was gonna go 460 but I took 6 days off I think and my shoulder feels ok but why risk it. Thursday il throw a few heavy singles and triples in with legs.
Did 5 sets of db rows and 5 sets of barbell curls and wrapped it up.
Tomorrow we push but with many limitations on my shoulder. this guy is a good training partner as hes about the same strength as me on most pulls but his push and presses are kinda weak. My reduced numbers will be on point with his working weights on many lifts. So hopefully as he helps rehab my shoulder I can help build up his pressing #'s so were closer in a month or 2
We did chins and deadlifts supersets through the warmups.
50 chins and deadlifts up to 405. I was gonna go 460 but I took 6 days off I think and my shoulder feels ok but why risk it. Thursday il throw a few heavy singles and triples in with legs.
Did 5 sets of db rows and 5 sets of barbell curls and wrapped it up.
Tomorrow we push but with many limitations on my shoulder. this guy is a good training partner as hes about the same strength as me on most pulls but his push and presses are kinda weak. My reduced numbers will be on point with his working weights on many lifts. So hopefully as he helps rehab my shoulder I can help build up his pressing #'s so were closer in a month or 2
Hyde
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If things are working well now without the junk I wouldn’t mess with that - only if you are still having issues. Otherwise just don’t add new foods more than one at a time from here.I didn't lol. I did make cookies for my niece and I only had 2
Smont
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Theres almost never a time in my life were I have no stomach issues. But a elimination diet I believe is very necessary for me to really figure my gut out. Probably should have done one 5 years ago lol. I do see that anytime I have more then 24oz of fair life I get a tiny bit runny, if I drink the half gal I'm on the toilet at 2am. I use to be able to smash a half g a day no problem. I'm also thinking fat is a big culprit as my cheats are always very, very, very high in carbs and fat
Smont
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Very confused today. I stepped on the scale and I'm back to 198. I did **** my brains out till Sunday morning but I'm back to normal, eating were I left off and without all the details I should be 202-205, I mean yesterday morning I was 202. Maybe dehydration? I did throw in a hour of cardio yesterday evening.
Soooooo, I dont really need any feedback on that, it's very irrelevant and the answer is get hydrated and add some calories.
But. I'm 198 and were 4 weeks out. Is it worth trying to put on weight, taking a bombs and slamming food and not being able to train everything 100% ?
I think it makes more sense to stat on test and nothing else and just train and compete at 198 and when I'm back to normal I can use the a bombs for something else
Any opinions? Maybe we just do 2gm of test and 700 anadrl and pull till my arms fall off
Soooooo, I dont really need any feedback on that, it's very irrelevant and the answer is get hydrated and add some calories.
But. I'm 198 and were 4 weeks out. Is it worth trying to put on weight, taking a bombs and slamming food and not being able to train everything 100% ?
I think it makes more sense to stat on test and nothing else and just train and compete at 198 and when I'm back to normal I can use the a bombs for something else
Any opinions? Maybe we just do 2gm of test and 700 anadrl and pull till my arms fall off
gphagan1
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Yeah you probably are better off just sticking with Test and not adding in Anadrol if you’re not able to train 100%. It would definitely be easier on your body.
Hyde
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If you’re having gut issues and/or need to eat more food, adding Anadrol is going to be a very tough battle that isn’t likely to add much more weight.
At 4 weeks out, even adding more test e isn’t that ideal - only way I would up the dose would be fast esters. I remember you talking about a Prop mixture you had still perhaps?
But the #1 thing will be adding more carbs from sources you tolerate well. Pasta, rice, instant mashed potatoes possibly, bagels all things that fit that for me. Bananas also no fiber, easy to slam after most meals or blend in shakes. Dried fruit is tasty & portable too.
I never really go over ~36oz Fairlife even in a bulk. You can only take so much, so if all you can do is 18oz a day enjoy it for what it is.
At 4 weeks out, even adding more test e isn’t that ideal - only way I would up the dose would be fast esters. I remember you talking about a Prop mixture you had still perhaps?
But the #1 thing will be adding more carbs from sources you tolerate well. Pasta, rice, instant mashed potatoes possibly, bagels all things that fit that for me. Bananas also no fiber, easy to slam after most meals or blend in shakes. Dried fruit is tasty & portable too.
I never really go over ~36oz Fairlife even in a bulk. You can only take so much, so if all you can do is 18oz a day enjoy it for what it is.
Smont
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I'm not raising the test I'm just gonna stay the same, but I did take some prop and mixed it with the test e 50/50 and I'm still pinning that mixture. But I think I'm about at peak levels on 700 test at this moment and the estrogen sides are very minimal so I'm gonna stay, I may add a little mast just because I'm only needed half of a anastrozole 2x week, I think maybe 250mg of mast prop might eliminate my need for a ai without really any downsides.
Hyde
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The mast prop like that is what I was envisioning for a little more drug-fueled peak power. No sides, just turn the dial up a bit more for the comp.
No joke, that SNL pic is how I basically feel right now. I am strong enough for my body now cruising 200 test I can’t seem to keep from injuring myself! I’m scared to even bump up the gear or food.
Smont
Legend
what about keeping the gear low and jacking up the gh and the food. More recovery without adding much actually gear or things that increase force production.
Or
And I actually dont think this option applies to powerlifting like it does bodybuilding but what about trading off a few Exercises you're really strong on for some other exercises you're not very good at or strong at. Now being that you're doing powerlifting obviously there's only certain exercises that are going to be worth your while, Is this potentially an option for you or is this not going to work
Hyde
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Well I don’t think GH really matters at all for powerlifting, especially considering my muscle recovery is already amazing given my focus on recovery and managing training volume & frequency. But I did just add 2iu GH in Saturday along with the BPC after hurting my knee, so I am going to have that for a month. And I have switched some of my test to deca for at least the moment.
I actually am going to be doing exactly what you suggested; yesterday I started a hypertrophy protocol that will greatly lessen the total loads I’ll be exposed to. Smith RDL on tap for tonight after upper back work, for example.
Not sure how much muscle I’ll build just from novel stimulus, because food and gear aren’t really changing for now, but I want to be able to train hard & consistently.
Smont
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That sounds awesome. With short rest and constant tension I can get a great workout with weights that I might use as a seccond or third warm up set depending on the exercise. When switching over like I kinda just did for chest and shoulders il start with 4-5 ,
15-20 rep sets on like maybe .... 70% or my normal working sets with under a min rest and try to start progressively overloading on those high rep sets. I definitely notice changes, that's how my shoulders came up and I guess that would kinda apply to the heavy chins and swapping them for high reps and my back got significantly thicker. Most of that back training was off cycle on 1cc test and some random pre workout sarms. The shoulder stuff was all on trt and injured.
I definately think your change in stimulus is going to give you some gains
Smont
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Oh! The jacking up gh with the food was kinda a idea for a little more recovery but also to help keep you leaner longer. This would actually work better with your change in training. Those extra carbs with the higher rep training and som gh, maybe some lantus
. Sounds like good times for gains on lower doses. I was joking about the slin
, no1 should reccomend slin
, its not fun or cool 
Smont
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good workout today, lots of various warm ups and some dead hangs warm ups, mostly just did squats and deadlifts.
Worked up to 235 for 3 sets of 10 on squats and then pulled triples from 185 to 375 over 4 sets and 455×1 with straps.
Finished off with some high rep chins and db curls.
at 545 am I got a phone call from my boy that hes got a 3 fight contract and wants to do his weight training and meal prep on my watch. Hes going up a weight class so we want him jacked at 185 weigh in and stepping in the ring around 200lbs.
And then about a hour ago I got a call about another mma fighter from his manager and he is switching over to BKFC and hes gonna start weight training with us next month for a 8 week strength training block. Both must train natural. Neither are willing to risk anything so the results in how they look will be very much a result of our training and diet so this will be great advertising going into the new year. I asked if he wants a couple sparring partners as well and the answer is yes. Now as a third bonus, if I can get a bunch of sparring In with these 2 guys over the next 2 months And I'm feeling good and I'm gonna enter the masters gold gloves for the tournament in January and February and probably just fight cruiserweight and say **** it. Either of these guys would win that tournament with there eyes closed so i might take a crack if the moon and the stars aline and I'm healthy and in shape
Worked up to 235 for 3 sets of 10 on squats and then pulled triples from 185 to 375 over 4 sets and 455×1 with straps.
Finished off with some high rep chins and db curls.
at 545 am I got a phone call from my boy that hes got a 3 fight contract and wants to do his weight training and meal prep on my watch. Hes going up a weight class so we want him jacked at 185 weigh in and stepping in the ring around 200lbs.
And then about a hour ago I got a call about another mma fighter from his manager and he is switching over to BKFC and hes gonna start weight training with us next month for a 8 week strength training block. Both must train natural. Neither are willing to risk anything so the results in how they look will be very much a result of our training and diet so this will be great advertising going into the new year. I asked if he wants a couple sparring partners as well and the answer is yes. Now as a third bonus, if I can get a bunch of sparring In with these 2 guys over the next 2 months And I'm feeling good and I'm gonna enter the masters gold gloves for the tournament in January and February and probably just fight cruiserweight and say **** it. Either of these guys would win that tournament with there eyes closed so i might take a crack if the moon and the stars aline and I'm healthy and in shape
gphagan1
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Sounds like a nice little side gig for you training those guys. It seems like they all look at you as a coach and trainer, and no better advertisement than word of mouth. Maybe it could turn into a little business if word gets out and you start picking up some clients.
Smont
Legend
I kinda got lucky, one of the fighters who has a reasonable popular name and hes sponcered by monster and knows a lot of ppl. Ive know him since we were kids. I use to smoke his ass on the mat but i was also 2 years older and 50lbs bigger then him back then lol. Now i dont got a shotSounds like a nice little side gig for you training those guys. It seems like they all look at you as a coach and trainer, and no better advertisement than word of mouth. Maybe it could turn into a little business if word gets out and you start picking up some clients.
.But anyway, he talks me up a lot and these guys are all on the backend of there careers. They wanna be jacked at bigger weight classes so they dont have to cut too hard and they dont wanna do crazy mma training camps every day. Some of these guys train 4-5 hours a day over 2-4 sessions. There sick of that **** lol
Smont
Legend
I think after 10+ years chasing titles and after realizing that ship has sailed they just wanna look good and fight bums and middle of the road guys for fast paychecks, then the win a couple and start chasing the dragon for title shots again lol. And repeat. Personally, i would love for somebody to pay me to fight tomato cans all day lol. Im perfectly fine being the big fish in the tiny pond 
Smont
Legend
Lets ask! Il shoot him a msg
Smont
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Smont
Legend
Ive actually never used injectable choline, i did use to take 1000mg orally with d3, fish oil, magnesium and 5 htp at night as just part of my nightly routine. It was one of tjose things were i started running out of stuff and not replacing it. Im just getting back on my supplement game the past few weeks
Hyde
Legend
Most people would probably want 75-200mg of injected choline depending on size & tolerance. But any amount is going to aid power output, learning, & mental recovery from such.
It’s gonna aid your guys become more skilled from their practice & recover better mentally from it. It all adds up.
Smont
Legend
The skill learning and mental stuff is what intrests me most! I just requested a 40ml from mike and my question to you is should i add more orally and do you know whats the oral to injectable dose vs dose comparison if any at all
Smont
Legend
Simplified push workout today, im getting bored so im increasing my overall training frequency but not really adding much total work at all. Only the days i deadlift are really taxing right now. The push days are just basically a med weight bench and a bunch of high rep shiznit.
Like today was a 20° incline bench for 3 sets of 8-10 for warmups and 5 sets of 8
Machine pec fly a couple sets of 20 and 1 set of 31 to just about failure
5 sets of lateral raises, 4 sets of press downs, 5 sets of various lateral raises and 4 sets of a machine tricep extension. 8-30 was the rep range, most was 15-25.
Between it being harvest time. ( i lost a huge plant to bud rot, like 50% of it i had to destroy) im really pisses. But now i gotta get that stuff taking care of cus the rest are all just about ready) and now i got some clients again im getting really busy so if my updates get fartger and fewer its a good thing! Means that im making money!!! But i wont be missed gym tine cus in training 2 ppl in person and i still got a guy whos been coming with me a few days a week.
3 weeks to pull, honestly, im not even excited and im gonna keep working on my deadlfts way past this little event and eyeballing a actual meet in the spring. Or at least considering it. Im coming to the realization that Hold on I'm able to train everything very hard in a body building or Athletics style, Focusing on strength training or power lifting in my big lifts he seemed to be limited to only progressing at 1 lift at a time. I spent most this year and some of last year focusing on chins, now when I'm working on the dead lift and a little on the squat but the shoulders wont let me train the bench for pr's now. Usually when im killing the bench my deadlifts go on hold so theres always some kind of trade off it seems. Im sure if I knew how to structure my strength training programs more like hides programs i could be doing this more efficiently. But, im not really in position for any new stuff or adjustments right now
Like today was a 20° incline bench for 3 sets of 8-10 for warmups and 5 sets of 8
Machine pec fly a couple sets of 20 and 1 set of 31 to just about failure
5 sets of lateral raises, 4 sets of press downs, 5 sets of various lateral raises and 4 sets of a machine tricep extension. 8-30 was the rep range, most was 15-25.
Between it being harvest time. ( i lost a huge plant to bud rot, like 50% of it i had to destroy) im really pisses. But now i gotta get that stuff taking care of cus the rest are all just about ready) and now i got some clients again im getting really busy so if my updates get fartger and fewer its a good thing! Means that im making money!!! But i wont be missed gym tine cus in training 2 ppl in person and i still got a guy whos been coming with me a few days a week.
3 weeks to pull, honestly, im not even excited and im gonna keep working on my deadlfts way past this little event and eyeballing a actual meet in the spring. Or at least considering it. Im coming to the realization that Hold on I'm able to train everything very hard in a body building or Athletics style, Focusing on strength training or power lifting in my big lifts he seemed to be limited to only progressing at 1 lift at a time. I spent most this year and some of last year focusing on chins, now when I'm working on the dead lift and a little on the squat but the shoulders wont let me train the bench for pr's now. Usually when im killing the bench my deadlifts go on hold so theres always some kind of trade off it seems. Im sure if I knew how to structure my strength training programs more like hides programs i could be doing this more efficiently. But, im not really in position for any new stuff or adjustments right now
Hyde
Legend
It’s tough for an advanced trainee with some mileage to usually improve more than a couple things, strength-wise, concurrently. Usually you will see progress mainly on 1-2 of the big 3 in a meet prep; it gets harder to drive all 3 simultaneously because so much energy is going into whatever else just to get it to climb. Talking about lifetime PRs here, not just a decent performance. Giving focus/ priority to things yields more results on the total than splitting effort totally evenly, past a certain level of proficiency.
I think 150mg injected slightly outperforms 600mg pure AlphaGPC (not the common 50% in many preWO, I mean 600mg pure AGPC). You also have total control of when it hits, regardless of digestion or food intake.
So 50mg might be similar to 400mg of the cheap 50% stuff in many preWOs, which would be a 200mg dose from higher end brands who don’t cut corners.
I think 150mg injected slightly outperforms 600mg pure AlphaGPC (not the common 50% in many preWO, I mean 600mg pure AGPC). You also have total control of when it hits, regardless of digestion or food intake.
So 50mg might be similar to 400mg of the cheap 50% stuff in many preWOs, which would be a 200mg dose from higher end brands who don’t cut corners.
WickedWarlock
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Wow looking great. I’m in a state where only hemp legal thca is available unfortunately I mean it does the trick but still.
gphagan1
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That’s definitely some pretty buds…..you took some good pics…you can see a lot of the orange/red hairs and the trichomes are covering everything, even the purple leaves.
Even someone that doesn’t smoke or vape weed would have to admit how pretty the plants are.
Years ago I grew a strain, indoors, called Bruce Banner that looked very similar to that, and it was definitely super potent. It kind of had a fruity smell with a little hint of diesel.
Smont
Legend
Im not completely sure what that means. (Hemp legal thca) Thca is thc. All plants have low thc and high thca and when you heat it up the thca turns into thc. This is why you have to microwave or heat weed before making butter or edibles, its called decarboxylation. Thats how you activate the thca. Are you talking about delta 8 thc?. Its usually synthetic or semi-synthetic. Delta 9 on the other hand is the most potent form of thc and is naturally occurring in many strains
Bruce banner is still very popular. Outdoors it grows massive and is a high yeild high thc bud. They even have it as a autoflower now. Those dont get nearly as big but the end product is a smaller similar version. Up until recent years auto flowers have been pretty c***** genetics but they've gotten really good over the past year or 2 and they're starting to come out much more like regular plants. Just smaller and a faster life cycle
WickedWarlock
Member
No it’s a weird shouldn’t be there loophole. Somehow you can just order like 29% thca strains that still comply with the bill. Idk but weed is literally illegal here but shops have thca bud and big signs showing it so it’s not a secret. Idk. What I do know is traditional weed has a cleaner feel but it’s definitely not delta 8
PolishHamm3r77
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So @Smont and I were have a back and fourth about bloodwork. where do people go for blood panels and what panel would you request? Particularly PCT type bloods. There are more companies doing bloods than there are Tim Horton’s in Canada. So worst case Ontario I’d go w Marek Health. Seems pricey though.