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Anabolic Pump Interactions

Mr. Ed

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Ok could we please list all know suppplements / substances that interact with AP causing it to perform less than possible.
so far i know that

Alpha lipoic acid

should not be taken while on AP. What else?

thanks for any help on this matter.
 
Alpha lipoic acid is the sh!t.....na r ala.....love that stuff.......not if your doing AP tho
 
I guess my response wasn't that helpfull....oh well..lol
 
Take it easy on Ai's and serms, as estrogen effects Glut 4, so the glucose partioning effects will be weakened if estrogen is driven too low.
 
AI and Insulin/Insulin Mimickers. I've still to read more into the SERMs issue before I can comment.
 
thanks for the help guys.

can someone tell me what are some substances that are insulin mimickers?
 
I guess this would make Cialabol a double bad choice to stack with AP? Since it has both insulin micking and estrogen lowering effects......BTW, I'm stacking AP/Cialabol right now. Hope it works out well.
 
LJ57 said:
I guess this would make Cialabol a double bad choice to stack with AP? Since it has both insulin micking and estrogen lowering effects......BTW, I'm stacking AP/Cialabol right now. Hope it works out well.
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yeah that sucks because I have some cialabol too

I am using an AI

so I notice that with Na-R-ALA, I have more pump than with AP

might be because of low GLUT-4 on which AP depends a lot

just my experience..
 
ALA is the main one that is in most Insulin Mimic supplements, I can't for the life of me remember the other types though.
 
cinnamon. Darn, was taking AP 15 minutes before I would have my favorite cereal, Cinnamon Oat Crunch. I have it everyday. So I guess AP would not work very well with this huh?
 
Vegking said:
cinnamon. Darn, was taking AP 15 minutes before I would have my favorite cereal, Cinnamon Oat Crunch. I have it everyday. So I guess AP would not work very well with this huh?
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There are a couple of types of cinnamon and only one of them actually impacts insulin. I have been using AP and having cinnamon with my oats and I am still having awesome results.
 
Vegking said:
cinnamon. Darn, was taking AP 15 minutes before I would have my favorite cereal, Cinnamon Oat Crunch. I have it everyday. So I guess AP would not work very well with this huh?
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Cinnamon flavoring is fine and so are dashes of crude cinnamon found on most spice racks.
 
I planned on using AP during my post cycle therapy along with Nolva, mass pump stack, life cycle, poseidon, leviathan and alpha lipoic acid. I can remove the ALA but I need the SERM, how should I dose this so that I can maximize the efficiency of my AP and not have to reduce the SERM? Also, why should ALA be avoided while on AP?
 
Rodja said:
4-HydroxyIsoleucine (found in fenugreek), inzitol, cinnamon are some others that I can think of.
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Banaba (corosolic acid), gymnema sylvestre, Bitter Melon extract (Momordica charantia), large amounts of vanadium. I think that should covert the most of them.
 
psychospic said:
I planned on using AP during my post cycle therapy along with Nolva, mass pump stack, life cycle, poseidon, leviathan and alpha lipoic acid. I can remove the ALA but I need the SERM, how should I dose this so that I can maximize the efficiency of my AP and not have to reduce the SERM? Also, why should ALA be avoided while on AP?
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I'm in the same boat to, i was going to use it in PCT with a SERM.

Whats the verdict on AP's use in PCT?
 
Rodja said:
There are a couple of types of cinnamon and only one of them actually impacts insulin. I have been using AP and having cinnamon with my oats and I am still having awesome results.
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Cinnulin-PF is the patented one shown to effect insulin.
 
No serious issue to the point of altering the efficacy of either AP, or the SERM in question. I could give you a far more detailed and technical response, but it would literally be only for the purpose of making me seem smart. ;)
 
thesinner said:
Banaba (corosolic acid), gymnema sylvestre, Bitter Melon extract (Momordica charantia), large amounts of vanadium. I think that should covert the most of them.
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How much will this reduce the effiacacy?

I have been taking Gynostemma, vanadium, ala, banaba leaf, and a few others with my pre and postworkout drinks for quite some time.
 
kabuki said:
How much will this reduce the effiacacy?

I have been taking Gynostemma, vanadium, ala, banaba leaf, and a few others with my pre and postworkout drinks for quite some time.
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This might help to answer your question:

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workout8485 said:
should 1 cap of novedex xt per night affect the efficacy of AP?

and will chromium picolinate interfere at all with AP?
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1 cap of Novedex XT per night will be fine.

Yes, chromium picolinate will interfere with AP. I suggest having an hour in between taking Anabolic Pump and Chromium Picolinate.
 
dexterium said:
1 cap of Novedex XT per night will be fine.

Yes, chromium picolinate will interfere with AP. I suggest having an hour in between taking Anabolic Pump and Chromium Picolinate.
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I've taken Cr Pic daily for around 6 months and didn't really feel it did much at all for me as far as glucose disposal; certainly didn't ever get a hypo feeling like I can with ALA, AP, or any other insulin mimic. As far as I know it is just for general insulin sensitivity supposedly, not acute like AP ect. I don't see why it would be a problem. Could you elaborate more on why you recomend against it's use?
 
kabuki said:
How much will this reduce the effiacacy?

I have been taking Gynostemma, vanadium, ala, banaba leaf, and a few others with my pre and postworkout drinks for quite some time.
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If i'm not mistaken AP contains the corosolic acid as part of a banaba complex, and im not sure if its AP or pslin which contains the gynostemma.

So I've been taking a ton of bitter melon on my carb-up days along with AP. I know bitter melon shuttes carbs and aminos into the muscle cells. Wouldn't bitter melon complement AP? AP stimulates Glut 4 and bitten melon and AP help bring nutrients into the cells? I know this is probably scientifically incorrect, can someone correct me?
 
saludable24 said:
I've taken Cr Pic daily for around 6 months and didn't really feel it did much at all for me as far as glucose disposal; certainly didn't ever get a hypo feeling like I can with ALA, AP, or any other insulin mimic. As far as I know it is just for general insulin sensitivity supposedly, not acute like AP ect. I don't see why it would be a problem. Could you elaborate more on why you recomend against it's use?
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We consider chromium picolinate to be an insulin potentiator and theoretically, insulin potentiators may interfere with Anabolic Pump's ability to block glucose uptake in fat cells.
 
mapshooter said:
If i'm not mistaken AP contains the corosolic acid as part of a banaba complex, and im not sure if its AP or pslin which contains the gynostemma.

So I've been taking a ton of bitter melon on my carb-up days along with AP. I know bitter melon shuttes carbs and aminos into the muscle cells. Wouldn't bitter melon complement AP? AP stimulates Glut 4 and bitten melon and AP help bring nutrients into the cells? I know this is probably scientifically incorrect, can someone correct me?
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P-Slin contains Gymnemic Complex(Herbal Engineered FromGymnema Sylvestre).

Bitter melon lowers blood sugar so I think your best bet is just to make sure there is an hour in between taking bitter melon and Anabolic Pump.
 
I too am wondering about ALA use. Can it be dosed in a staggared fashion with AP to get the Antiox effects still form the ALA(dosed in between meals) while using the AP for the meals?
 
also how does all this apply to pslin? will all the aformentioned clock pslin as well considering the shared ingredient?
 
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