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miniarnold said:
So anabeta could indirectly increase natty T levels?

What happens after an anabeta cycle say if one used it on a maintenence diet or a gaining diet (either situation) and gained a bit of lean mass, when stopping it will the new lean mass that was gained be lost, like shrinking/deflating after the cycle with the gains only lasting whilst on it?

never took any as or ph, or anything like this that could put a bit of lean mass on you relativley quick
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Gains would be maintained because youre never at a period of lowered endogenous androgens, thats the beauty of it.
 
kevinhy said:
Gains would be maintained because youre never at a period of lowered endogenous androgens, thats the beauty of it.
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so any size gains wont be lost, and kept after a cycle given diet and training etc is all the same, not sure i understand how any new muscle gains are kept AFTER its use?
could any gains made on a maintenence diet (not in a calorie surplus) also be kept in a maintenence diet after finishing anabeta?
not sure how this is possible when a cycle is finished?

thanks
 
Why wouldn't it be possible? It is speeding up the natural process rather than adding muscle at an artificial rate.

If you drop your calories to a deficit after finishing then obviously your weight could drop as your new maintenance level would be higher than when you started.
 
miniarnold said:
so any size gains wont be lost, and kept after a cycle given diet and training etc is all the same, not sure i understand how any new muscle gains are kept AFTER its use?
could any gains made on a maintenence diet (not in a calorie surplus) also be kept in a maintenence diet after finishing anabeta?
not sure how this is possible when a cycle is finished?

thanks
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Absolutely. As long as you're training and eating enough protein there isnt any reason you wont keep your gains. If you eat a bad diet and stop training when you're done then of course youll lose your gains, but thats common knowledge.

Guys do PHs and AAS all the time and dont lose their gains provided they do a proper PCT to return natural hormone levels to homeostasis. With Anabeta you wont get such a rapid increase in size, but you get the benefit of not requiring a PCT.

Why do you feel gains will be lost after its use?
 
Yes, I am subscribed to the Ursobolic thread!

We are happy to answer questions. :)
 
bdcc said:
Yes, I am subscribed to the Ursobolic thread!

We are happy to answer questions. :)
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Imagine going out to dinner, some place complicated like McDonalds? Id kill myself, are drop from starvation before I get a chance to order.
 
like i say some funny guys around here......

i like to learn and ask if i dont know or understand, i dont have much experience other than with the basic supplements, im actually very knowledgable and intelligent but not great with grammer on forums :)

i just thought if say anabeta gives pretty quick lean gains maybe it would be lost pretty quick after its use which has been answered

if it can give me a bit of fat loss and tightening up whilst on maintenence and not dieting (current goal) then it will be very beneficial but seems most users are bulking/gaining on it
i guess it could be stacked with alpha t2 is this a natty fat burner?

Thanks for answers.
 
AnaBeta and Alpha-T2 make a good stack, yes. It is a popular combination.
 
miniarnold said:
like i say some funny guys around here......

i like to learn and ask if i dont know or understand, i dont have much experience other than with the basic supplements, im actually very knowledgable and intelligent but not great with grammer on forums :)

i just thought if say anabeta gives pretty quick lean gains maybe it would be lost pretty quick after its use which has been answered

if it can give me a bit of fat loss and tightening up whilst on maintenence and not dieting (current goal) then it will be very beneficial but seems most users are bulking/gaining on it
i guess it could be stacked with alpha t2 is this a natty fat burner?

Thanks for answers.
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Im glad you dont take being made fun of too personal, lol definitely a positive attribute for you.

But to be serious...any supplement you take you should always have the attitude of 95% diet and training, and a supplement merely to aid a truly effective diet and training program.

Supplements are and edge, not a solution. You can take steroid...you know that works, but you should still strive for diet and training to achieve your goals.

Ill tell you, Anabeta worked for me for cutting...but I made sure I channeled my energy (being repetitive here) into even stricter diet and training.

I just dont want you to get miniscule results when you spend your hard earned cash on supplements thinking you can take a few steps back and relax. This is the time to go harder than ever, and let supplements aid that. Thats how you have a winning formula for success.
 
ax1 said:
Im glad you dont take being made fun of too personal, lol definitely a positive attribute for you.

But to be serious...any supplement you take you should always have the attitude of 95% diet and training, and a supplement merely to aid a truly effective diet and training program.

Supplements are and edge, not a solution. You can take steroid...you know that works, but you should still strive for diet and training to achieve your goals.

Ill tell you, Anabeta worked for me for cutting...but I made sure I channeled my energy (being repetitive here) into even stricter diet and training.

I just dont want you to get miniscule results when you spend your hard earned cash on supplements thinking you can take a few steps back and relax. This is the time to go harder than ever, and let supplements aid that. Thats how you have a winning formula for success.
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i see no point starting a stupid bitching internet argument, regardless
you must have missed my response to you in the ursobolic thread regarding the use off supps and what they can do i am more aware than most what it takes for success with no easy shortcutts esp for a natty,
go easy relax...not in my nature i always give as close as 100% as i can i train the same and put the same effort in wether i am using supps or not it makes no difference

thanks for contributions
 
miniarnold said:
i see no point starting a stupid bitching internet argument, regardless
you must have missed my response to you in the ursobolic thread regarding the use off supps and what they can do i am more aware than most what it takes for success with no easy shortcutts esp for a natty,
go easy relax...not in my nature i always give as close as 100% as i can i train the same and put the same effort in wether i am using supps or not it makes no difference

thanks for contributions
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I saw it, I think we just look at it differently or dont totally understand each-other which is ok. Ill try to explain a little more.

I just dont think your going to get much out of any natural supplement if you use it to slack on diet...or try to just stay at maintenance and expect to see significant differences in body composition.

There are points in time where one has to slow down training and also not diet as hard (leptin becomes a severe issue), and if a supplement helps maintain or minimize any more fat gain that would be a good thing...its just that I wouldnt expect anything significant either...well Im speaking from anecdotal experience.
 
Not that it has gone this way but please make ensure no hostility ensues. :)

miniarnold you are welcome to make as many questions as you would like. I think the reason you may possibly receive sarcastic answers in the other thread is that you asked questions that are answered in the product write-up.

Please feel free to carry on asking any questions. No PES rep will be anything but helpful.

Ben
 
miniarnold said:
like i say some funny guys around here......

i like to learn and ask if i dont know or understand, i dont have much experience other than with the basic supplements, im actually very knowledgable and intelligent but not great with grammer on forums :)

i just thought if say anabeta gives pretty quick lean gains maybe it would be lost pretty quick after its use which has been answered

if it can give me a bit of fat loss and tightening up whilst on maintenence and not dieting (current goal) then it will be very beneficial but seems most users are bulking/gaining on it
i guess it could be stacked with alpha t2 is this a natty fat burner?

Thanks for answers.
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No problem bro, we're not the grammar police.

Most people do use Anabeta on a bulk but mainly because it provides an increase in appetite in those individuals. If you eat maintenance calories or in a deficit it will assist in retaining mass/tightening you up. The few users who went across the grain and cut on it were more than pleased.

Alpha-T2 is a natty fat burner which can be stacked with Anabeta to promote greater fat loss/recompositioning based on diet.
 
cheers gents
may give it a whirl and hold at maintenence level and see if i can loose a bit of fat on it with no other changes, could be possible seeing as it seems to limit fat gain in those who are bulking or even makes some users leaner whilst gaining bulking,but for now thats not my goal, but it could stand to reason at a strict maintenence diet some fat loss may be possible.
 
AlphaT2 contains a thyroid hormone as one of its ingrediants, is this safe would this not have an adverse reaction to the natural functioning of the thyroid TSH after use ? thanks
 
We use 3,3-diiodothyronine rather than 3,5 because 3,3 does not adversely effect TSH.

3,5 has a minor effect but we would prefer to be cautious and therefore do not use it
 
bdcc said:
We use 3,3-diiodothyronine rather than 3,5 because 3,3 does not adversely effect TSH.

3,5 has a minor effect but we would prefer to be cautious and therefore do not use it
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ok so pretty safe for a period of time just wanted to know, cheers.
 
ok wasnt sure it would be ok as its a thyroid hormone, anyone logged AT2?
wats its effect like, is it like a stim like ephedrine maks you feel buzzy and on a high or is it less noticable, not keen on stims really, i seem to be quite sensitive to them i prefer a more natural effect and not to feel buzzing and then have a crash

thanks.
 
If you search for AT2 logs on here you will find many.

Recently the stimulant component was changed from methyl synephrine to higenamine but otherwise the product is exactly the same so can use old reviews as your basis.

The stimulant aspect of AT2 is very clean and mild, it is not designed to be a strong stimulant but rather a comprehensive fat loss product with a thyroidal aspect and stimulant aspect rather than just one or the other.
 
miniarnold said:
ok wasnt sure it would be ok as its a thyroid hormone, anyone logged AT2?
wats its effect like, is it like a stim like ephedrine maks you feel buzzy and on a high or is it less noticable, not keen on stims really, i seem to be quite sensitive to them i prefer a more natural effect and not to feel buzzing and then have a crash

thanks.
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At2 is non jitter. no caffeine. It's not stim free but it's caffeine free. Nothing like thefeeking of ephedra, just as effective. I love staking oxy elite and at2.. I was shredded as fcuk this summer on it and was skin way below my normal level of cardio..

I'm gonna be using it in December to Assist me through the holidaysbc I cannot pass up Italian Christmases , sorry lol
 
miniarnold said:
ok wasnt sure it would be ok as its a thyroid hormone, anyone logged AT2?
wats its effect like, is it like a stim like ephedrine maks you feel buzzy and on a high or is it less noticable, not keen on stims really, i seem to be quite sensitive to them i prefer a more natural effect and not to feel buzzing and then have a crash

thanks.
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chedapalooza said:
At2 is non jitter. no caffeine. It's not stim free but it's caffeine free. Nothing like thefeeking of ephedra, just as effective. I love staking oxy elite and at2.. I was shredded as fcuk this summer on it and was skin way below my normal level of cardio..

I'm gonna be using it in December to Assist me through the holidaysbc I cannot pass up Italian Christmases , sorry lol
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There you go, a review for you. :)
 
miniarnold said:
ok wasnt sure it would be ok as its a thyroid hormone, anyone logged AT2?
wats its effect like, is it like a stim like ephedrine maks you feel buzzy and on a high or is it less noticable, not keen on stims really, i seem to be quite sensitive to them i prefer a more natural effect and not to feel buzzing and then have a crash

thanks.
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AT2 is different in comparison to other hardcore fat burners for the fact that it does NOT contain caffeine or 1,3.

Some of the ingredients will have a mild stimulant effect, but this is not coupled with a "cracked out" feeling or a crash. The easiest way to describe it is to say that its a "clean" energy.

I personally have NEVER handled stimulants well. Most preworkouts and stimulant based fat burners give me nausea and a very ill feeling. Ive taken Alpha-T2 near bedtime on numerous occasions without it affecting my sleep, except for the occasional night sweats (very thermogenic).

There are plenty of reviews on Alpha-T2 in our company section, and others can be found using the search tool of the forum.
 
[I'm gonna be using it in December to Assist me through the holidaysbc I cannot pass up Italian Christmases , sorry lol[/QUOTE]

Your gonna use it to loose fat without dieting or to eat junk and keep fat gain at bay witout dieting?
 
miniarnold said:
[I'm gonna be using it in December to Assist me through the holidaysbc I cannot pass up Italian Christmases , sorry lol
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Your gonna use it to loose fat without dieting or to eat junk and keep fat gain at bay witout dieting?[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna use it to keep fat gain at bay while I indulge in the holidays .. Christmas eve and day with my family can destroy a months worth of dieting!

Ps- I do not "diet". It's a lifestyle. Diets fail and end, lifestyles last forever. I will never stop working out year round and I supplement to mygoals.. I know that thanksgiving, Christmas, new years.. These things can derail "diets". But if you work hard year round and plan for those days.. Just think of it as a REALLYgood cheat day.. Nothing more.. I also use those days to my advantage by kicking my as$ in the gym leading up to them, as well as after! Black Friday for me is sweating out thanksgiving! Not shopping lol
 
bigintensions said:
How old do you have to be to use it
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IMO unless you have a metabolic deficiency, do urself a favor n stay away from any supplements until your body can no longer do things on it's own. I was foolish enough to use fat burners n test boosters starting at age 16.. Now I'm 23 and stacking two fat burners year round only keeps me at maintenance!!!! Including eating cleanAND consistent cardio! If you are young and healthy, you will cripple your body once you are even my age. I'm seeing an endo in dec. Possible hrt for test n thyroid..
 
chedapalooza said:
IMO unless you have a metabolic deficiency, do urself a favor n stay away from any supplements until your body can no longer do things on it's own. I was foolish enough to use fat burners n test boosters starting at age 16.. Now I'm 23 and stacking two fat burners year round only keeps me at maintenance!!!! Including eating cleanAND consistent cardio! If you are young and healthy, you will cripple your body once you are even my age. I'm seeing an endo in dec. Possible hrt for test n thyroid..
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Wow I thought this was for at2..

My fault.. But same goes for any muscle building agent..
 
djremix said:
so how did higenamine pan out?
let give it a % of effectivness compared to dirt cheap RC Clen yeah?
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The dose of higenamine used vs clen, they are not even in the same league. AT2 is designed to be a mild stimulant.

If you are the type of person using clen then I would suggest sticking with it, this is not intended to be similar to clen at all.
 
bigintensions said:
How old do you have to be to use it
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As a general rule - and not just a recommendation for the sake of it, but because you seriously don't need anything like it because training and nutrition generally are not up to par at such ages - is that you do NOT need to use anything but the BASIC STAPLES if you are under 18-21 years (I would say 21 years old, because you need to build a decent training base, at least) of age. So, if you're under 21 years old and/or have not been training very long, then I recommend sticking to the basics until you're older and/or have built up a solid training base.

~Rosie~
 
Well said Rosie! To add to this, in my opinion Anabeta is better suited more experienced lifters, as to gain the most out of it, your sleep, training habits, and diet have to be very good. You got lots of time bro.
 
andrew732 said:
Well said Rosie! To add to this, in my opinion Anabeta is better suited more experienced lifters, as to gain the most out of it, your sleep, training habits, and diet have to be very good. You got lots of time bro.
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And this also goes for 90% of supplements out there. Without having the basics down you cant expect to gain as much as a guy who has everything else spot on.
 
I am not bashing alpha t2 as i wish to try it out, bu a little concerned about what i read regarding T3 the thyroid hormone and other thyroid drugs, i read it can damage metabolism and they will take weight off you and not just fat will take lean muscle off you as it cant be controlled with thyroid drugs the type off weight lost from using them, and also the damaging effects to the thyroid once stopped.

still interested to try alpha t2 for a limited time, but not at the expense of total weight loss inc alot of lean muscle loss from the thyroid just going to fast

Thanks.
 
miniarnold said:
I am not bashing alpha t2 as i wish to try it out, bu a little concerned about what i read regarding T3 the thyroid hormone and other thyroid drugs, i read it can damage metabolism and they will take weight off you and not just fat will take lean muscle off you as it cant be controlled with thyroid drugs the type off weight lost from using them, and also the damaging effects to the thyroid once stopped.

still interested to try alpha t2 for a limited time, but not at the expense of total weight loss inc alot of lean muscle loss from the thyroid just going to fast

Thanks.
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bdcc said:
We use 3,3-diiodothyronine rather than 3,5 because 3,3 does not adversely effect TSH.

3,5 has a minor effect but we would prefer to be cautious and therefore do not use it
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Do not compare 3,3 to thyroid drugs. They do not all have the same side effects.
 
k cheers,
just concerned about muscle loss with thyroid hormones from what i read
may do a search on here for logs of alpha t2 and read up
 
miniarnold said:
k cheers,
just concerned about muscle loss with thyroid hormones from what i read
may do a search on here for logs of alpha t2 and read up
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Yeah you shouldnt have much of an issue with 3,3T2. Muscle wasting WILL become an issue if using Cytomel(t3) though.
 
what about shift just came across it
whats the difference between that and alpha t2, shift only has one ingrediant in it so alpha t2 is better (same ingrediant and 2 others)
or do they have different uses?
 
Shift is AT2 minus the stimulants. AT2 is more effective on the whole.
 
miniarnold said:
what about shift just came across it
whats the difference between that and alpha t2, shift only has one ingrediant in it so alpha t2 is better (same ingrediant and 2 others)
or do they have different uses?
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Shift is meant for someone who has absolutely no tolerance to stimulants (IE feels cracked out after drinking coffee), or just wants something to provide a mild thermogenic boost.

While Alpha-T2 is unlike other hardcore fat burners in that it doesnt contain caffeine or 1,3, the other ingredients are extremely thermogenic and lipolytic. Alpha-T2 is suited for someone whose looking for a complete fat annihilating product.
 
No problem bro!
 
Ursobolic is too new for us to have much feedback on that product, let alone on the stack.

We could say it would be amazing and try and sell more units off the back of the Ursobolic intro but we just don't know that. If you try it please let us know. :)
 
YOu could stack them but from my experiences with both ursobolic and Anabeta, I feel anabeta is more ideal for a bulk, while ursobolic is more suited for a cut or recomp
 
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