AnaBeta FAQ - Ask Away
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miniarnold
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Is anabeta effective to use solely as a Tbooster, or is tboosting not really its mechanism of use and its really a natural anabolic and shouldnt really be used if Tboosting is the sole intention ?
chedapalooza
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miniarnold said:
Not really a t booster. But it's effects r similar. meaning nutrient utilization, fuller muscles, leaner, strength increases etc. Doesn't affect ur hormones or anything tho
kevinhy
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Absolutely, if youre looking for strictly elevating testosterone i would opt for Erase stacked with DAA.
miniarnold
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i thought so very similar physical effects of increased t but not actually increasing T,
will deffo be using it soon but not sure as for what physical goal but not as a Tbooster
sounds like good s**t tho
miniarnold
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absolutely its not a tbooster or it can be used as one?
i hear you on the daa, yet to try this out in any form thers a few appealing options from diff companys, wouldnt take erase as my usual fed wont allow this in their rules, so may be looking into a good solid natty ai supplement again lots of them but whats any good
cheers men
cheers.
bdcc
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It has mild testosterone boosting effects but does not do so significantly enough for us to advertise it as such. If PES sold a test booster it would be very effective. AnaBeta is extremely effective in other departments but very weak in terms of testosterone boosting and therefore we don't even bother mentioning that aspect.
miniarnold
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Thanks for honesty, appreciated. i WILL be trying it but prob not at this time more likely when i start gaining.
miniarnold
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As ive been told alpha T2 is a natural supp that contains the 3,3 ingrediant which is T2 i believe,
but i have been told by my competing fed that T2 can convert to T3 in the body (which is the unsafe thyroid hormone)
Comments?
but i have been told by my competing fed that T2 can convert to T3 in the body (which is the unsafe thyroid hormone)
Comments?
ax1
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quote vvvv from ?
3,3'-Diiodothyronine
Advantages
* Almost no suppression of TSH/hypothalamic-pituitary-thyroid axis
* Stimulates cytochrome c oxidase - aka decouples Electron Transport Chain (slightly more than 3,5-T2)
* Precursor to T3 & T4 (which have their own metabolic properties of course)
Disadvantages
* Interferes with plasma membrane transport of T3
* No significant increases in growth hormone seen at any dosing levels
3,5-Diiodothyronine
Advantages
* Increases serum levels of growth hormone (GH) comprable to T3
* Stimulates cytochrome c oxidase - aka decouples Electron Transport Chain (slightly less than 3,3'-T2)
* Does not interfere with plasma membrane transport of T3
* Increases activation of Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase
Disadvantages
* Suppression of TSH/hypothalamic-pituitary-thyroid axis is only slightly less but comprable to that of T3
Summary
If one is looking for strictly an increase in energy expenditure with less TSH depression, 3,3'-T2 is your answer..... If one is looking for more muscle mass preservation properties aswell and doesn't mind some TSH depression, 3,5-T2 is your answer....
On a final note though, I think T3 supplementation would probably be better than 3,5-T2 supplementation as serum 3,5-T2 as well as 3,3'-T2 concentrations have been shown to rise significantly with a marked rise in serum T3 following T3 administration. Also, just because T3 acts on the protein synthesis mechanism involved in the regulation of the mitochondrial mass (so is more indirect pathway) while both T2 act directly at the mitochondrial level, this doesn't mean it is less effective at interupting the ETC, in fact, T3 has been shown to exhibit slightly more of an effect even though it acts indirectly on the mitochondria....
ax1
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Hmm did this quote come with any dosing protocols? Thinking about mega dosing some of this stuff... well not THAT high, but pretty high
No, but there are various protocols out there such as 1:1, 2:1, etc....Im not sure there is definitive answers on this one outside of suggestions.
chedapalooza
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mattrag said:
Idk about any particular product other than something like revamp, which I have not taken but will in February and march when I go stim free to cleanse n reset my cns...
But other other than that.. I basically use a product like alpha t2 for the 4 to 8 suggested weeks at 3 caps a day then I'll take the suggested 4 weeks or more off n switch to a product which doesn't contain potentially thyroid suppressing ingredients, simple!
I did have bloods done back in June when running at2.. Saw mild suppression of tsh n other factors that led to a diagnosis of adrenal fatigue or chronic fatigue syndrome.. I was shredded tho along with erase n a diuretic complex.. Had more blood done in sept. Levels were back to a low -normal range (I have endocrine issues which I have an apt for on dec 1)
Hope this helped..
Btw- anabeta is a sick supp n awesome for recomp n lean gains.. Will be doing 8 weeks In December and Jan after my first trial of 4 weeks in October was a great success!
mattrag
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DAMN very interesting... Ill see what I can find...
miniarnold
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So alpha t2 is pretty safe for use up to 8wks, wana give it a try but dont wana f""k me thyroid up from doing so, would it take muscle along with fat off from the weight lost ?
Cheers men
Cheers men
bdcc
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This would be a diet based answer than a supplement based answer.
Put it this way, I have used multiple bottles of AT2 and I would not want to run them if muscle atrophy was likely, who would?
chedapalooza
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miniarnold said:
Bottle says 8 weeks.
And the question of muscle preservation has Been answered multiple times. See above.
miniarnold
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thats what i thought, seems like a popular supp but as you say peeps wouldnt use it if it took muscle off them, was just concerned of its saftey in regards to tsh suppresion with the recomended max cycle length of AT2
ax1
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Generally its not a concern especially with 3,3, but if you want to address the issue (or your run and/or 3,5) run this pct protocol
200mg 7-keto dhea (100mg 1st thing in the morning then 100mg anytime later in day,) and also kelp (suggested serving on bottle) for 3-4 weeks.
miniarnold
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no pct is required with alpha tho right ?
ax1
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Do I need a preCT?
miniarnold
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Does T2 and other thyroid hormones increase atp,
if so would it increase atp in muscle cells in the way creatine does and give a cell volumisation effect ?
if so would it increase atp in muscle cells in the way creatine does and give a cell volumisation effect ?
ax1
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Thats what creatine is for
Using 3,3 diio may increase protein synthesis, so if your diet is set you may get some mild recomp effect.
ax1
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Dont only eat protein, but eat enough,
chedapalooza
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miniarnold said:
Dude! Come on!! These questions r getting insane again. That's like asking if protein will boost test. J3sus c'mon please.. Such waste of notifications...and Pct? Omg. I can't take it anymore
ax1
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Dont run 3,3 that high either unless you find a scientific study on humans stating that its safe, and also effective. Sometimes more means less.
ax1
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miniarnold
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Thats what creatine is for
i know
Using 3,3 diio may increase protein synthesis, so if your diet is set you may get some mild recomp effect.
ok
as i wondered if thyroid hormones are supposed to increase atp then if they increase atp within muscle cells the same way creatine does
cheers
miniarnold
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ax1
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I know that if the thyroid isnt functioning properly ATP levels may be lower.
Taking Cytomel increases ATP, It wouldnt be increased by the same mechanism as creatine though...and I dunno how significant if any supplementing with 3,3 would be for ATP. We probably would need scientific study to confirm this which I doubt there is any available....but we know creatine works effectively for that purpose.
miniarnold
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seriously ax 9, and did you stack it also?
ax1
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I dont remember, lol....I ran a log here, I was doing fine but then I wanted to experiment with my diet quite drastically and my progress slipped.
I felt fine at 9, but this doesnt mean its better I was just messing around to be honest. I think I may have cut back to 7 or 8 later on.
AllSprkShard1
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lately , because of my work shedule durring the week , (i have to travel for work) is ususally hit the gym 3 days a week, sadurday sunday and monday, instead of 3 days a week spread through out the week , like i usually would
how would u suggest incorportating anabeta into my shedule , since i feel like if i take it on my 4 consecutive off days i would be wasting tlhe product,
any help or idea would be great,
what kind of workouts work best with this product (heavy weight / low rep.. or medium wight high rep,)
ohh , my libido on this has gone up like crazy , in the one week ive been on it , (and i missed day or two )
how would u suggest incorportating anabeta into my shedule , since i feel like if i take it on my 4 consecutive off days i would be wasting tlhe product,
any help or idea would be great,
what kind of workouts work best with this product (heavy weight / low rep.. or medium wight high rep,)
ohh , my libido on this has gone up like crazy , in the one week ive been on it , (and i missed day or two )
kevinhy
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Honestly i would really try to get the three days of training spread out a bit more - friday, sunday, tuesday or another sort of every other day designing.
If you absolutely cant train any other way i would still continue on with the 4 capsules per day during your off days. Supplements of this nature have a cumulative effect, and i feel you wouldnt be on long enough if taken on training days only.
kevinhy
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Sounds like a sick stack
