See, this is where you are wrong. Rationalists/secular humanists/atheists (whatever word you want to use) points out the absurdity of ALL religions without fail. You feel more persecuted because your beliefs are more dear to you.
You can't even wear an American flag shirt on Cinco De Mayo as well.
Trure true true...
I really dont get what America is trying to accomplish now.... A downward slope towards disaster is what I see..
No, the problematic part that I see as well (having no religious beliefs) is that our government is not dealing with all religions equally. They are literally funding the Imam's trip to do fundraising to build a mosque. Yet displaying the 10 commandments at a courthouse was deemed unconstitutional. Its a travesty that our government is so full of hypocrisy.
And you would be wrong. I do find it comical that atheists are religious in believing in non belief and must spread their word to anyone who listens, but then turns their cheek to chastise another for merely whispering their beliefs.
The whole "atheism is just another religion" argument is thoroughly discredited and ridiculous, at this pooint trotting that one out is purposely being intellectually dishonest.
Isn't it ironic that you make your way into every thread that mentions religion here on AM to preach your word? I know a few true athiests that could just care less about religion and feels no need to thrust their views upon those who do believe.
I wouldn't say bull****, but maybe I will give you that it was a bit of an exaggeration. The hate towards islam is significantly larger than the hate towards christians. Dsade's comment below is very accurate.
^This is true, and I mentioned a similar comment in the previous thread on this.
Unfortunately, I too would like to never have to discuss religion, but it seems to be the forefront of politics in this country. Which is sad.
Well said Easy, I agree with you 100%
No, we know there is no God.
While my comment was sarcastic in nature, that argument in itself is what bothers me about religions. Its a mirror of glen beck politics.Prove it
Oh man, I know your throwing a bone to the dogs with that one, so before I react with the expected growling, Im going back to enjoying my puppy chow.Hey come on now, Beck is right about 60% of the time
I have to turn him off when he goes on a religion rant, but otherwise a fair bit of what he says has accuracy, a higher accuracy rate than Obama or Joe Biden "When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed"....
No, that isn't a logically sound argument. Disbelieving in what is not provable is rational. Believing in god is no different in that respect than believing in karma, four leaf clovers, or voodoo dolls. Disbeliving in those things because there is no proof of their existence or effectiveness is based on rational thought.
Actually it did make the news not to long ago! Check it out...
I see your point, but that is not logically true either. In life, odds are all we really have to count on, and 100% certain is technically never achievable. For example, I have no proof that the sun will rise in the sky tomorrow. But based on the available evidence, I am 99.99999% sure enough such that I will go ahead and schedule may day with that assumption, based on statistical probability.
Know what I mean, EZ?
The twin towers weren't built with specific internal plans of that being there, it was rented out space.
that is truly neither here nor there. The fact is that there was prayer at the twin towers.
just need to burn them all at the same timethat is truly neither here nor there. The fact is that there was prayer at the twin towers.
At the end of the day, I hae n o issue with the burning of bibles or qu'rans to be honest. I think it is a good start
America has been only an idea since the early 20th century. All of these troubles go back to some of our earlier wonderful Presidents
I will light the match with you :bigok:just need to burn them all at the same time
Some of our earlier presidents were the only ones with balls... nows its all PC bull****.
Marine type!
I wonder if they would be able to exhibit any real power any more. The more I look at Washington the more I see that the President (regardless of affiliation) is nothing more than a puppet.
I'm about to burn some pork chops! Don't try to stop me!just need to burn them all at the same time
Just as your unbelief is obviously extremely dear to you.Why is it that atheist seem to have an overwhelming need to prove how much more logical their belief \unbelief ( or whatever) is than of those who believe.Are you trying to prove it to others or yourself?
My unbelief is not dear to me...it simply exists due to lack of evidence. Calling a dog a cat a million times will not change the fact that I am not expressing a positive assertion...merely indicating that there is no evidence to claim a positive assertion, therefore that assertion does not exist. A-theist = without belief in god.
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I'd like to think you know what a crock that is. Most scientists are possibly more biased than anyone. Science is hardly based on factual evidence, as much as you or me or anyone would like that to be the case.
There are always going to be those with agendas. As well, it is human nature to hide in carefully constructed worldviews...but that is as dishonest when committed by scientists as the religious, is it not?
Yes, it very much is.
The responses you make would say it is dear to you.
Appeals to authority are logical fallacies and prove nothing.
My reference to Dr.s and scientist had nothing to do with appealing to authority.It had to do with your statement implying that anyone of faith had no logic or understanding of science.
As I have learned the hard way on many occasions, this is not necessarily the ideal medium for subtle humor...but thanks for the undeserved personal.
You are right about the medium.I took the statement that "even if there were evidence to the contrary..." to imply a lack of reason or logic.Then the two statements about the definition of atheism.
Probably because the US Constitution, and the Freedom of Religion, applies...Well....in the United States. As such, these sort of practices are frowned upon...here....in the United States...where we have Freedom of Religion.
applies. Since they are the citizens of the US, where Freedom of Religion is applies, said US citizens are condemned for their actions.
Sorry, but wrong on both parts. US military bases are considered US soil (a person born on base is a US citizen), and in the US we also have freedom of speech, which covers freedom of expression such as burning bibles, Quarans and flags.
I guess i was wrong. Maybe it is simply that burning the bible is not viewed as badly as burning the quaran. I remember one of the first things that were talked about is whether burning the quaran could encourage terrorist activity. So maybe it is not a matter of "double standard", but more of a... We will not go ape**** if you burn our book, we can just brush it up and move on with our lives. Sure, it burning the bible is not a nice gesture either, but you don't see the "muslim world" having to worry that we will be sending suicide bombers at them for these actions.
