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A.M.S Dienedrone Log Opportunity!

Sorry guys I was not trying to question why AMS is sponsoring a log. In fact, in the interest of full disclosure I rep for AMS on another board (not sure if the boss wants me saying that or not, so boss let me know if your reading).

But its all good. I'm excited to see these logs.
 
Awesome oppurtunity but im staying natural for now. Best of luck guys
 
I am natural(meaning no hormones) most "natural bodybuilders are not natural. They use hormones that just arn't banned in the organization so technically there not natural(whoops did I expose most "natural bodybuilding competition rules , since Ive been following them.) I said Most. there are a very and I mean VERY slect few that require you have never used a hormonal in your life. these are extremely rare.

ex. say a chemist produces an analogue of 1-ad, like AMS 's 1-adand it isn't banned on the list., in the organization your competing in.... "natural competitors" or people in that organization are allowed to use anything that isn't banned in their organization. so they can use this.

if I choose to take a hormone that's my choice. I am hesitate to go heavy due to just coming off an injury. That's why I could log this in January.
 
smeton_yea said:
I am natural(meaning no hormones) most "natural bodybuilders are not natural. They use hormones that just arn't banned in the organization so technically there not natural(whoops did I expose most "natural bodybuilding competition rules , since Ive been following them.) I said Most. there are a very and I mean VERY slect few that require you have never used a hormonal in your life. these are extremely rare.

ex. say a chemist produces an analogue of 1-ad, like AMS 's 1-adand it isn't banned on the list., in the organization your competing in.... "natural competitors" or people in that organization are allowed to use anything that isn't banned in their organization. so they can use this.

if I choose to take a hormone that's my choice. I am hesitate to go heavy due to just coming off an injury. That's why I could log this in January.
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Completely ur choice, curiosity is all it was for me man. I could care less what you do or dont put in your body. BUT if you put a hormone in your body you are not natty, point blank. With that being said good luck.
 
3clipseGT said:
if you put a hormone in your body you are not natty, point blank. With that being said good luck.
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paradoxical about natty competitions. the rules are if you haven't touched the hormones on our list you can compete in our "natural Bodybuilding" organizations. and many guys call themselves natural due to following the natural bodybuilding competition rules. I call myself All natural because I am currently have been for over two and a half years.

using your terms I'm not considered natural because I have used mohn, similar to anavar (which var is used on women and child and doesnt close growth plates) I don't know if mohn could be used on women and child since it is methly.

and Superdrol....

and gaspari's nolvadex xt which produces some serious sides for me. hair shredding.

I use my terms though cheers buddy

Layne Norton is all natural ever ever in his life as far as I know. much respect to him moving the weight he does. unless he's changed. i hear he aviods 6-oxo which is legal in his organization.
 
smeton_yea said:
paradoxical about natty competitions. the rules are if you haven't touched the hormones on our list you can compete in our "natural Bodybuilding" organizations. and many guys call themselves natural due to following the natural bodybuilding competition rules. I call myself All natural because I am currently have been for over two and a half years.

using your terms I'm not considered natural because I have used mohn, similar to anavar (which var is used on women and child and doesnt close growth plates) I don't know if mohn could be used on women and child since it is methly.

and Superdrol....

and gaspari's nolvadex xt which produces some serious sides for me. hair shredding.

I use my terms though cheers buddy

Layne Norton is all natural ever ever in his life as far as I know. much respect to him moving the weight he does. unless he's changed. i hear he aviods 6-oxo which is legal in his organization.
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yeah your good Smeton It was just out of curiousity. thank you for taking the time explaining ect :D good luck.
 
Smeton, so you're really not, "all natural."
You're more like, "selective un-natural, natural."
:D
BTW, why is your mouth wide open in your avatar? Did someone catch you off guard? Damn, I really hate when people do that to me... ;)
 
Iron Lungz said:
Smeton, so you're really not, "all natural."
You're more like, "selective un-natural, natural."
:D
BTW, why is your mouth wide open in your avatar? Did someone catch you off guard? Damn, I really hate when people do that to me... ;)
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Right, as most other "natural" competitors, superdrol wasn't banned in my organization(which i may abandon their rules) in till 2006. I was fine in till then, then I broke those rules, and had to start all over, which I cannot compete in the ifpa/ocb in till 2011. I might wait anyways because I know for a fact i can get bigger with food. Then again I might jump in and try a state show. it all depends on the timing and what is going on in my life. other things are more important right now in my life then bodybuilding.(career, long term relationship, going skydiving) one thing at a time. right now its this Am compeition, as little as it sounds it inspires me a great deal.

On that Picture I'd been drinking(which I do very rarely that was spring break in PanamaCityBeach. went with three friends, rented a 1400 condo for a week, and get drunk, beach(it was too cold) swam in the heated condo pool, and took some aspire lite=)
 
Age: 24

Sex: male

Height: 5ft5

Weight: 140 but my bf is at 6%

Bodytype: ecto


Training experience (as much detail as possible.. TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF ! ! WHY should we choose you ! !): James Jacob Baum has been training at Kenyons studio for 17+ years
and is currently one of the several instructors there. James Jacob Baum started his martial arts training at the age of 5 but getting no where with his training and realizing it was not what he wanted at the age of 7 his parents found Master Kenyons studio where his first instructor was Ed. Mair. Fast forward to the present 18 years later and dedicated to the studio he is a 3rd degree black belt and will be testing in the near future for his Kyosanim and soon Sa Boo Nim testing with in the next 2-3 years. He is great at working with students of all ages from kids older people. His passion for martial arts is more than just training on a weekly basis but a life style. He also lifts weights 5 days a week with the max-ot style as a foundation keeping in shape physically and mentally. From being holistic, vegetarian, to having his mind and body awareness of what he eats, this is true dedication that people look up to. He is also passionate about performing and doing demos which he has done since a child demoing with Master Kenyon and many other instructors.


Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible): MAX-OT TRAINING AS CLOSE TO THE PROGRAM AS i CAN FIT. It really depends on which machine is open at my gym at the time but I give each body part a rest at least 4-5 days.

Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible): I teach martial arts 5 days a week 1-2 hours a day which is very active and running around and demonstrating.

Current supplements (exact brand/product name):
cre-02 for pre work out Millennium Sport Technologies Just finished few weeks ago.
multi vitamin science and technology
post work out protein science and technology
Testing and messing around with pslin but will stop if logging this product if you need me to.


Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible):Calories: 3000-5000 (depending on how much money I have that week and time) Protein:278.42 grams Carbs:246.05 grams Fat:54.68 grams

Current Daily water intake: Close to a gallon

Short Term Goal: Bench 45x4. Leg press over 700lbs and going deep. Currently leg press 630

Get to 150lbs of weight

Long Term Goal: 180lbs life time goal.

ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs: I Don't take drugs.

Supplement history (as much detail as possible):
Cre-02
intraxcell
ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Beta Alanine
blackhole
Palo Alto Labs Incarnate and Reset AD
world size no2
That is with in the last year.
I have tried nanovapor
black powder
super pump 250
size on
purple wrath
alfalfa for digestion

Other product reviews / logs you have done (with links):
My Cre 02 Log
tight extreme
intraxcell
incarnate log
Intra X Cell Log
These are my most current logs. I have logged other products but those were not sponsored.

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i would like to see what this can do for an 'all natrual' guy like smeton. but not sure how much he can push the strenght gains with his shoulder.

i'd like to follow bslick's log if he get picked.

good luck everyone!
 
Royd The Noyd said:
I'd like to see your opinion (as you seem to be more honest) on it. But if it aint yo thing then thats fine.
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Wait until my PRIME log
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We'll see though, I change my mind all the time. If it comes down to if I could just buy a bottle of Dienedrone and try it later.
 
Rugger said:
Wait until my PRIME log
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We'll see though, I change my mind all the time. If it comes down to if I could just buy a bottle of Dienedrone and try it later.
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i'd like to follow that.
i would also like to see your opinion on dienedrone
 
If I'm gonna roll out the wallet for full support I think I would rather go with superdrol first, that's all. If I had already done super I would probably give it a shot.
 
3clipseGT said:
No he did an injectible ECDY log. I dont remember a DECA log though.
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Deca/dbol/OG superdrol

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and dbol

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If you've hit the big boys already why not this log. Oh, and what did you think about the Deca? did you use the Decanoate or NPP? the NPP looks interesting but very tough to find from a good source.

Ok enough thread high-jacking. I vote for Russianstar!!!
 
How does this compare to Genetic Edge Technologies Tren-250
?
 
Orangepeel said:
Deca/dbol/OG superdrol

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and dbol

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If you've hit the big boys already why not this log. Oh, and what did you think about the Deca? did you use the Decanoate or NPP? the NPP looks interesting but very tough to find from a good source.

Ok enough thread high-jacking. I vote for Russianstar!!!
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Russian Star you are built like crazy but how old are you? I have seen 3 different ages from you.
 
Rugger said:
EasternLegend is another guy who has multiple ages on here.
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I don't care if he logs the product or not I was just curious. One of his logs he posted he was 26, 22 and 21 from what I have seen.

I haven't seen that guy post the you mentioned.

Why lie about age?
 
LilJeremy said:
I don't care if he logs the product or not I was just curious. One of his logs he posted he was 26, 22 and 21 from what I have seen.

I haven't seen that guy post the you mentioned.

Why lie about age?
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because anyone under 21 doesn't need to mess with there hormones. (unless there abnormally messed up)
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Doom crew where you at on this? Or are you all scared? :)
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nothing really to be scared of if you know your stuff. This compound is light compared to stuff like trenadrol. basically from it's chemical structure it looks safe(although this isnt always the case) The literature on this looks good as far as sides and maybe no androgenic sides(from the literature) the only way I see sides is higher dosing it. and still I don't know. the only way to see is do it and see how your body responds to it.
 
smeton_yea said:
nothing really to be scared of if you know your stuff. This compound is light compared to stuff like trenadrol. basically from it's chemical structure it looks safe(although this isnt always the case) The literature on this looks good as far as sides and maybe no androgenic sides(from the literature) the only way I see sides is higher dosing it. and still I don't know. the only way to see is do it and see how your body responds to it.
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From my experience and some other reviews sent to me with dosing of 100mg there's been lil or no side-effects reported. But as you said Smeton that really depends on the person and there over all Ph experience.
 
I might throw my name up in here. I don't know yet. How are strength gains with Estra products? I believe there are good endurance properties with them no?
 
i hear that the sides become pronounced at 120-150mg. the other versions of this compound are 30mg pills, so 90mg is the magic number for the 30mg ones. 100mg (2 caps) of dienedrone should keep the sides low in almost anyone, while maximizing the dose.

if you have/had gyno, this compound is risky. if you're not prone to gyno, be prepared to crush the weights.

my experience with this compound is this : my military press went from 155 to 225 in 4 weeks. if i had a brain cell when i cycled, i would have focused more on deads and squats and really torn that gym apart. at the end of a 4 week PCT, my military press was 235 (if my memory is correct).

all this was on 90mg. i have a bottle of dienedrone in the cubby, and i can only imagine what 100mg would do.

the rule of thumb with this compound is this : 2 pounds of LBM per week (with correct diet), leaning out in the process. 10% increase of strength per week, most if not all keepable in PCT - again, with correct diet.


if you'll take a logger in february (when my PCT for my pulse ends) i'll throw my app in :) i'd love to get another bottle of this beast! if so, i promise to update daily (7x per week) and give a completely unbiased log, complete with training, pics, diet, etc.
 
JOHNJESSICA20 said:
F But as you said Smeton that really depends on the person and there over all Ph experience.
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I never said that. your right that previous ph/ps use can change ones one hormonal systems in a different way; however even if your didn't do them your chemistry can effect person A in a totally different way than person B, when the substance is introduced. Generally though it should work about the same for most people.

This is a very interesting compound as far as the anabolic/low androgenic ratio is concerned.

maybe pull Ldragon or the Lg in here .
 
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The rules of this log are as follows:

1) You must be an active poster here on AM that is willing to give us a dedicated and detailed log.
2) You must not be running any other sponsored logs.
3) There needs to be a minimun of 4-5 updates weekly in your log.
4) Before and after pics would be a plus.
5) We will not supply pct as of now. However this may change. I'll keep you up-dated.


Ok guys I need the usual stuff, please be as detailed as possible thanks:



Name: Jeremy

Age: 22

Sex: Male

Height: 5'8

Weight: 186lbs

Bodytype: Ecto

Training experience (as much detail as possible.. TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF ! ! WHY should we choose you ! !): Been training for 8 years, mostly for sports like football and baseball. Got into bodybuilding 3 years ago. I was always the little kid, very weak. But after my jr in high school all of that changed.

Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible):

Right just 3x a week full body.

Mon/Wed/Friday-

Chest- Bench Press
Back- Wide Deads
Shoulders- Milt Press
Biceps- Curls
Triceps- Dips or close grip bench
Legs- Calf Raises and squats

3-4 sets with 5-6 reps

Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible):

No cardio right now

Current supplements (exact brand/product name):

AEN- Intrabolic
AEN- Intracell
Scivation- Vasocharge
Scivation- Xtend
MST- MVP

Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible):

Finishing up school right now so I live off of eggs, chicken, oatmeal, rice and those blue bird veggies bags. Not sure what it equals out to as I only keep up with protien right now. I try and get 215g of protein.

Current Daily water intake: 2 gallons? Maybe more lol.

Short Term Goal: Increase strength and LBM with as little body fat as possible. Add another 10 lbs.

Long Term Goal: Same as above but I want to reach the 240lb mark lean.

ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs: None

Supplement history (as much detail as possible):

Creatine Mono(GNC), Celltech/Nitrotech- Yes I used them early on but who hasn't lol. SizeON, Halodrol, Intracell, Intrabolic, Xtend, Vasocharge, various protein powders and vitamins.

Other product reviews / logs you have done (with links): This would be my first.

Current / Progress Photos: Sorry I don't have any.

Can you post “before” and “after” photos (yes or no): I want too and I will see if someone will take some.
 
Nevermind my application, caber/clomid would run me $80 for a 30 day cycle of this stuff. Not worth it for a few pounds and some strength.:fool2:

Good luck testers.
 
LilJeremy said:
Nevermind my application, caber/clomid would run me $80 for a 30 day cycle of this stuff. Not worth it for a few pounds and some strength.:fool2:

Good luck testers.
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you can get away with a test booster but since it doesnt armotize to estrogen and ai is not needed . This is not a strong compound.you guys taking this stuff hardly know anything about this compound and steroids in general just by being seeing what I see on this thread. My word!. We really need some more guys that know half-way what there doing on AM. do you research guys I mean come on guys this isnt rocket science. and eat for gains most of you here need to eat eat to get big. Anyone who has been doing this for five plus years should be at least considered big(like myself) and if you've been doing this consistency(im talking about bodybuilding) for ten years you need to be a human forklift. like at least 235 for the average 5ft10. I mean ten years is mastery is any feild. I am already sick of this ignorant people not knowing how to get big though food and thinking this steroid or that will get them big, then mess themselves up and saying Oh steroids are harmful(yeah that's cause you didn't know what your were doing ). if you eat like a 192 lbs guy your going to be 192 lbs. getting big means stuffing your face and when you don't feel like eating stuffing it more.(by all means control your body fat levels)

I withdraw my application at this time because if I do do something, something like Bold would suit be better, its used to regaining muscle back(and Ive taking off for six months now due to an injury) . AMS Please consider me in the future like maybe Jan, Feb, March, April, May, whenever the timing is right. I'll still be helping people on this thread with this compound . Best of luck guys
 
smeton_yea said:
you can get away with a test booster but since it doesnt armotize to estrogen and ai is not needed . This is not a strong compound.you guys taking this stuff hardly know anything about this compound and steroids in general just by being seeing what I see on this thread. My word!. We really need some more guys that know half-way what there doing on AM. do you research guys I mean come on guys this isnt rocket science. and eat for gains most of you here need to eat eat to get big. Anyone who has been doing this for five plus years should be at least considered big(like myself) and if you've been doing this consistency(im talking about bodybuilding) for ten years you need to be a human forklift. like at least 235 for the average 5ft10. I mean ten years is mastery is any feild. I am already sick of this ignorant people not knowing how to get big though food and thinking this steroid or that will get them big, then mess themselves up and saying Oh steroids are harmful(yeah that's cause you didn't know what your were doing ). if you eat like a 192 lbs guy your going to be 192 lbs. getting big means stuffing your face and when you don't feel like eating stuffing it more.(by all means control your body fat levels)

I withdraw my application at this time because if I do do something, something like Bold would suit be better, its used to regaining muscle back(and Ive taking off for six months now due to an injury) . AMS Please consider me in the future like maybe Jan, Feb, March, April, May, whenever the timing is right. I'll still be helping people on this thread with this compound . Best of luck guys
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sorry to hear that,bro! next time i guess!:think:
 
bslick69b said:
sorry to hear that,bro! next time i guess!:think:
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I would love to just not the right timing. If I do do anything bold would be better for me individually because bold's uses are for treat muscle wasting or for rehab after an injury to regain muscle and get back to regular work. maybe is ams lets me in the future.

I had to quit my job because of my arm,I was doing physical labor, lifting heavier stuff frequently, so this injury has set me back in my career. This is the perfect compound for doing exactly what it says for me. This Ams product would be best utilized later on for myself. Some of you others you know where you are in your life and know right now as I write whether this is for you right now in your life. Its best for one to delay then rush in and not be fully certain if something bad will happen and take it easy and know almost predictably that results are guaranteed(and any mis-hap could happen its much less likely though when you not rushing in not fully sure of what your doing)
 
smeton_yea said:
I would love to just not the right timing. If I do do anything bold would be better for me individually because bold's uses are for treat muscle wasting or for rehab after an injury to regain muscle and get back to regular work. maybe is ams lets me in the future.

I had to quit my job because of my arm,I was doing physical labor, lifting heavier stuff frequently, so this injury has set me back in my career. This is the perfect compound for doing exactly what it says for me. This Ams product would be best utilized later on for myself. Some of you others you know where you are in your life and know right now as I write whether this is for you right now in your life. Its best for one to delay then rush in and not be fully certain if something bad will happen and take it easy and know almost predictably that results are guaranteed(and any mis-hap could happen its much less likely though when you not rushing in not fully sure of what your doing)
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o.k, bro take care!
 
LilJeremy said:
Nevermind my application, caber/clomid would run me $80 for a 30 day cycle of this stuff. Not worth it for a few pounds and some strength.:fool2:

Good luck testers.
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just clomid would be fine, and its not that expensive.


think about this - SD nets you 10-12 pounds, maybe 8 after PCT. dienedrone would be 8 pounds, 7 of which are keepable. and it won't kill your libido unlike SD. i honestly don't see how its "not worth it". many people even say that the strength gains on dienedrone are better than SD. on top of that, there's no liver toxicity.

it's definitely worth it, if you know what you're doing.
 
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