911 We shall make them pay
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peterson24
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Or you could take the side that they did not want an investigation because they were afraid to be singled out as not doing enough to try and prevent the attacks since it seems there was enough information pointing to something major that was about to happen. No one wants to lose their jobs or to be held responsible. I believe the government had information that 9/11 was going to happen, they just couldn't find out exactly what it was until too late. I remember getting a letter from the US embassy in Nov 2000 warning us to be on the look out for terrorist attacks and stay at high warning since we were living abroad. They definitly had an indication something was up. But as always said, hindsight is 20/20. I seriously doubt there was any sort of "conspiracy". As for the buildings falling, nothing is an exact science. Just because on paper says the steel will not melt until 2000 degrees doesn't make it fact. There is a margin of error on everything and 1700 degrees is pretty close. Anything could of been overlooked such as the original manfacturing of steel which may have some impurities by any means which may lower the melting setpoint. All I am trying to say is just because it says it must on paper doesn't always translate to real world situations. Many outside factors come into play. Any scientist knows this. I sometimes think these MIT brains are so caught up in numbers that they forget this thing called "common sense"CHAPS said:
Nitrox
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Jayhawkk said:
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The only thing I have to add is that although we often try to teach children to take the high road they often get conflicting messages. For some reason, be it movies, TV, or whatever, it seems to be acceptable to bypass the high road if it is for revenge or getting even for some perceived wrong doing on the part of someone else.
CHAPS
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Peterson24 in IDEAL conditions the jet fuel would burn at 1700 degrees but because of the way the building was insulated and air wasn't readily available to feed the fires, they were cold burning fires and only reached 500 degrees WAYYYYYYYY too cool to melt the steel. And how about the explosions in the basement? They rated on a seismograph at a near by University BEFORE the planes even hit, how do you explain that? Or that tower 7 as it was called only had fire damage on a couple floors but was never hit by any aircraft and the fire department told the lease holder that they couldn't contain the fire. So the lease holder said to "pull" the builder, which mean to destroy it in a controlled fashion using demolition. Well yes they did "pull" the building but guess what, the charges were already there! Now why would they already have charges set up to blow up this building if the lease holder didn't know what was going to happen? Also the lease holder upped his insurance policey quite a bit before the attacks. This wasn't common knowledge because the building fell the EXACT way that the 2 towers did and for obvious reasons they didn't want people getting the idea that the 2 towers were just another case of controlled demolition.
peterson24
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Well, you can go in circles with this. Unless you did the study for yourself and saw the actual evidence and did not take it as the word of god just because some internet movie said so, then I might say you have a case. But there are a lot of other explanations for what happened. There is known seismic activity on the east coast, its just very small that no one ever notices it. The local university could of just been picking up one of these events or maybe it was just recording a local subway train passing through. Its known that the WTC owner up'd his policy also. But if you had a building that was hit with an attack before ('93) and you were a savvy business man, wouldn't you be upping your policy especially since there was a gradual increase in attacks leading up to the big event? These commercial guys work together so I am sure when the guy from the WTC redid his insurance the owner of tower 7 followed suit just to protect their investments since they are right next to each other. To each their own but I won't be convinced until I see actual facts. It is the right thing to question but you must also do the same to these conspiracy theories and not just take it for fact because you want to believe. And the video that shows the explosions on the bottom floors as the towers fall could actually just be the windows and bricks blowing out from the pressure of the building coming down, not actual TNT. I know they have taken statements from people in the building saying they heard explosions but you can not take their word either. Its the same as witnessing a crime. Peoples minds tend to fill in the gaps and make things up in traumatizing (sp?) events. Thats why witnesses usually mess up what a suspect was wearing, etc...
jarhead
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CHAPS said:
Agreed. I know I pointed this out in another thread, but the north tower burned for 3 hours in 1975 with no sign of structural damage. Regardless of the jet fuel (which would have quickly burned out ) in 01, in 75 it was exposed to a much greater heat, burning for 3 hours. And yet in 01, 19 minutes was all it took for a tower to collapse. Odd to say the least. And if you look at other high rise fires in recent history some of which burned for an entire DAY, you won't find any collapse. This is ignoring the fact that the wtc was DESIGNED to withstand (according to one of the engineers of the building) multiple hits from the largest aircraft of the time (I believe 707, could be wrong). How can people ignore this?
jarhead
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peterson24 said:
I undertsand your logic, but it's not as simple as our minds filling in the gaps. Look were the towers were hit- towards the top. One more so than the other. 19 minutes of a relatively small fire caused the other roughly 95% of the building to collapse at free fall speed? When you look at other high rise fires in history, it just does not happen, and warrants further questioning. Evevn if the "pancake theory" is trully the cause of the collapse(which I don't believe) it warranted further investigation, if nothing else from an engineering standpoint. And there was none. That point alone should be addressed IMO. I posted a link in the other thread to a film that was recently released that gives examples of other fires in history( if you're interested). If you take an honest look at it, it does raise some valid questions (again, just my opinion).
peterson24
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i tried but those videos are blocked at my work. I'll will try to view a little later.
jarhead
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The google one is a 3 part video, the link is to part one. There are many things in there that I had not seen before. I just watched the second part, and I'm shocked. The eyewitness testimony of firefighters and people inside during the attacks are crazy.peterson24 said:
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Kristofer68SS
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excellent vid. I havent seen this one yet.
Watch it folks.
I got so angry watching this stuff.
Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill.
Watch it folks.
I got so angry watching this stuff.
Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill.
OmarJackson
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jarhead said:
lol this is so funny....
the first thing that terd says is "my name is brad and i'm a conservative republican" that invalidates anything that proceeded it. $100 says that guys got a tattoo of V.I. Lenin on his ass. fvckin commie. lol.
how dumb do these people think we all are, "oh he just said he's a conservative so this video can't possibly be biased against the current administration." that pencil-dyck can fist himself.
Kristofer68SS
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OmarJackson said:
Nice, intelligent remarks. LOL. You answered your own question.
Jayhawkk
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You would be surprised how many people you can persuade to listen and even change their opinion on things when you talk to them in a mature respectful way. Hell it has even been known to create friendships. An amazing thing really.
Not that I even Agree with Jarhead but damn give the guy a break he is trying to just bring opposing viewpoints and opinions up.
Not that I even Agree with Jarhead but damn give the guy a break he is trying to just bring opposing viewpoints and opinions up.
OmarJackson
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jarhead said:
no the guy in the video discredited the video
i like how one of the main points in that video was that "papers were blown outwards!" omg! that proves it! 9-11 inside job! papers mysteriously blown into the streets!
OmarJackson
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jarhead said:
it does make you think. but if you take a step back and look logically at the information that the producers conveniently leave out it just becomes sad.
I never understood conspiracy theorists, its sort of like a niche interest for some people who love mystery, intrigue and the belief that 'things are never what they seem.'
But the vast amount of people that believe this 9/11 inside job thing is far out of that small niche, its comes from an intense white hot hate for this president and the administration. people are either consciously or subconsciously choosing to only see what would make this president out to be the biggest monster imaginable and ignore everything else.
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i guarentee that after this president is out of office, and either a democrat or a more moderate less divisive republican is voted in, this conspriracy theory will fizzle out and become something like that kennedy assassination conspiracy: rarely referenced and even more rarely believed.
jarhead
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OmarJackson said:
Actually, myself at least, it has to do with the official story being so full of holes more than a hate of the government. When the attacks first happened, I was gungho about going to war, hell I was even pro bush and almost reenlisted. But over the last few years of looking at things honestly, things I, being a veteran, didn't want to hear, I started questioning. The governments investigation was a joke. Their failure to defend us was even worse. Granted you get alot of crazy ideas floating around, but to me some things are hard to ignore. And for me, if I look at it logically, no way do I believe the towers collapse from fire damage. They burned longer and hotter before in 1975, and buildings have never collapsed from fire damage.
OmarJackson
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jarhead said:
I agree, at first I also was unbelievably overcome with rage, I too considered joining the service.
as time went on my rage grew, but not towards the terrorists but towards the our government.
The fact that they let this happen when our intellegince warned us of its imminence.
A war againts a dictator that although an enemy, had nothing to do with 9/11.
trying to bring liberty and democracy to a people who neither know what it is nor want it.
putting our best young men in harms way by not allowing them to fight a war against a ruthless enemy by imposing ridiculous rules of engagement on them.
not going after bin laden.
the bush administration both first and second fvcked up BIG TIME, no doubt.
but i refuse to believe that he orchestrated, or had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
maybe the reason i can't allow myself to believe in this is because i know that if i did someone how find enough evidence to believe that our own government was behind this I would no longer be able to continue to live the life i love. I love living in the USA and have no desire to live anywhere else, but if believed in this conspiracy I could no longer live here, under this government. I would either have to more elsewhere or fight to the death against the government. this is not hurrah speech, this is how i truly believe, i wrote that in the other thread yesterday.
jarhead
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OmarJackson said:
i'l be damn, we completely agree on something at least!
Our views on the war are just about identical. The other part, I separate the government from my country. As a Marine, I served our country and what it stands for , not the government. The government is also a servant of the country. I'll always love my country, but I'm ashamed of what my government is doing to it, and the name of all americans. (not just the 9/11 thing). If I had not seen the Operation Northwoods paper, I would have a harder time believing that the government would knowingly allow such an event to happen. If you haven't read it, take a glance at it. not to convince you of any 9/11 theory, but to give you an idea of whatr they are capable of from their own mouths. It's pretty sobering.
OmarJackson
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jarhead said:i'l be damn, we completely agree on something at least!
i think you and i would agree on many things, because, if not misrepresenting your feelings, both of us love this country (with the distinction that our government is not our country.)
I think you don't buy the official story because there are too many technical and logistical holes in the official report.
the reason i believe the official story is more based more on a philosophical or theoretical look at the story.
I just don't see it how the conspiracy theorist see it?
where is the police state that they are always talking about? where is the restriction on civil liberties? where is the basis for outrage that we're paying $3 a gallon for gas when europe has been paying $5 a gallon for decades? our fortunate gas situation wouldn't last forever and we were naive to think so.
wire taps? yes it sucks knowing that the government may be listening to you. but get over it. get a secure e-mail and don't call your source on the phone.
I just don't see the motive for our government.
and the massive conspiracy for a new world order orchestred by secret societies such as the illuminati, freemasons and bohemian grove, I won't give credence to that part of the conspiracy because they belong in the same category of theories as bigfoot and the bogeyman.
jarhead
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OmarJackson said:
True. I can't buy into the whole secret society stuff either, that's just too hollywood for me. ( and I think george couldn't control his giggling during their secret ceremonies, and would probably spill koolaid on his robes). And I think the police state scare is more of a fear of what they COULD do if they abused the laws that they have passed/changed since 9/11. There is the potential for misuse or abuse, but it isn't common practice as of yet. I think alot of the anxiety and fear comes from the idea that history shows that when a government takes away a civil liberty or freedom, they rarely give it back.
Kristofer68SS
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Omar-"But the vast amount of people that believe this 9/11 inside job thing is far out of that small niche, its comes from an intense white hot hate for this president and the administration. people are either consciously or subconsciously choosing to only see what would make this president out to be the biggest monster imaginable and ignore everything else."
This is just not true. The facts speak for themself. There are SO many. God, there are so many.
First election he didnt win by vote. Electoral or popular.
Then 911, then war. First term wartime presidents have the second term pretty much in the bag.
Outside 911, if you look at his job performance, what has he done?
Oh put us in the largest deficit ever? Fact
Took away our rights? Patriot act for 1.
Spied on us. Illegal.
Lied about WMD's to start a war. Illegal.
F-ing vice president is getting drunk and shooting people. Illegal.
Jesus, the guy cant speak or spell. Just plain stupid.
Ad nausem.
Yes, I do despise this administration. Why shouldnt I.
They are a bunch of bafoons. 911 says so. If thats your take on it.
This is just not true. The facts speak for themself. There are SO many. God, there are so many.
First election he didnt win by vote. Electoral or popular.
Then 911, then war. First term wartime presidents have the second term pretty much in the bag.
Outside 911, if you look at his job performance, what has he done?
Oh put us in the largest deficit ever? Fact
Took away our rights? Patriot act for 1.
Spied on us. Illegal.
Lied about WMD's to start a war. Illegal.
F-ing vice president is getting drunk and shooting people. Illegal.
Jesus, the guy cant speak or spell. Just plain stupid.
Ad nausem.
Yes, I do despise this administration. Why shouldnt I.
They are a bunch of bafoons. 911 says so. If thats your take on it.
anabolicrhino
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OmarJackson said:
There are many organizations that exist only to promote its members to be more successful than the next guy. There is nothing wrong with this practice and is the basic template for every fraternity, coroporation and even a few religious groups.
However, when your are being sold a concept of an equal society where every man has a chance to better himself and become the president, you must apply more scrutiny upon the members of such groups when they seem to dominate the leadership of this country. Some may believe that GWB became president though his own competence and diligence, but I don't think George Bush would be president if he were born a black women.
It is alarming when the government removes personal freedoms to add security to our laws. Eventually, if this cycle persists we will all be secure in our loss of freedom. The process has to work at a slow and steady pace. If we were suddenly subjected to martial law security checks, there would be insurection. It is by slowly removing freedoms and implementing security and survellience, that most people don't notice what is going on until it is to late to do anything about it.
Its like the story of the the frog in the boiling water. If you throw a frog in boiling water he jumps right out , but if you put him in warm water and slowly raise the tempeurature he won't notice until he is cooked!
So, while many conspiracy theorist are crazy it is prudent to atleast acknowledge that what they are babbling about could be at least an outline for one possible reality.
Kristofer68SS
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Excellent analogy rhino.
OmarJackson
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Kristofer68SS said:
how do any of those things amount to him orchestrating 9/11?
war on Iraq, stupid unnecessary war, but how did this benefit bush or his buddies? hint: don't say haliburton, haliburton could have easily gotten a pork barrel project here in the states or alaska without turning the world upside down for a gov't contract.
patriot act? tell me one instance were you or someone you know personally has been affected by the patriot act?
is bush an idiot? yup, and its embarrassing that most foreign world leaders speak better english than our president.
did the republicans steal the first election? could be. even though i still stand that if you're too stupid to read a ballot you don't deserve to vote.
did cheney shoot a person in the face and try to cover it up? yup, and it was a disgraceful thing he did.
all in all, 9/11 turned out to be a lose/lose situation for bush. Either more terrorist attacks are carried out and he is grilled for failing to protect the nation OR he does protect the nation from terrorist attacks but is grilled for taking our civil liberties. I truly believe that the patriot act has saved american lives.
the democrats fully believe the 2000 election was stolen and they won't let bush forget it until the day he leaves office.
BioHazzard
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Wrong on 2 counts.anabolicrhino said:
1. He was indicted for perjury, ie lying under oath. Lying while under oath is a sure in to the slammer for ya. Not something "easily disregarded". Don't believe me. Just give it a shot yourself. lol
2. He DID NOT get impeached. While the House voted to impeach, the Senate acquited him. The Republican controlled Senate decided that it wouldn't be advantageous to remove the lame duck and install Gore into the presidency. Because then the GOP would be running against Al Gore the incumbant, instead of Al Gore the inventor of the internet.
I really hate to keep beating up on you. But you seriously need to check your facts before posting them.
BioHazzard
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If your insinuation is even remotely true, then the Dems would have been yepping about it non stop. So.... the million $ question is, why there hasn't been a stinking beep out of Mad Coward's mouth... ?? My money is, anyone crazy enough to yell for impeachment of Bush, would be laughed out of town.anabolicrhino said:
Prove me wrong! Go impeach Bush!!
BioHazzard
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Jayhawkk said:
Listen to yourself. "because of his controversy" By this insane criteria, the only president fit to be in office is a spineless asskisser, who caters to all sides, promises all thing to all people. Otherwise, there has got to be some CONTROVERSY with some people!! Now, WE CAN"T FREAKING HAVE THAT!! OUT HE GO!! :study:
Sorry dude. Looks like the Democrat hate mongers have gotten to you. You can't take their endless hate mongering. So, you are throwing in the towel. Your own words, not mine.
BioHazzard
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As to rest of the posts, I am not qualified to participate in the think tank. I shall bow out in shame. lol
anabolicrhino
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BioHazzard said:Wrong on 2 counts.
1. He was indicted for perjury, ie lying under oath. Lying while under oath is a sure in to the slammer for ya. Not something "easily disregarded". Don't believe me. Just give it a shot yourself. lol
2. He DID NOT get impeached. While the House voted to impeach, the Senate acquited him. The Republican controlled Senate decided that it wouldn't be advantageous to remove the lame duck and install Gore into the presidency. Because then the GOP would be running against Al Gore the incumbant, instead of Al Gore the inventor of the internet.
I really hate to keep beating up on you. But you seriously need to check your facts before posting them.
If you don't keep on beating up on me, how else will I learn? Big Bro
But, seriously...When an elected official is indicted for an offense that may compromise the electorates confidence in his ability to lead competently it is refered to as an impeachment.
The indictment of Bill Clinton was to determine if he had perjured himself while previously testifing, the committe did not prove Clinton gulty of perjury, but he still stands impeached, which is to say"tried by committe" in the crime of perjury. The alleged perjury was to have been committed while Clinton was testifiyng to the nature of the relationship of himself and an intern named Monica Lewinski, This I am sure you remember. The social indescretion that Clinton had recounted seemed to make most men smile and if given the same chance would have done the same. This is why it is easy to disregard. Thank you and good night
anabolicrhino
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BioHazzard said:If your insinuation is even remotely true, then the Dems would have been yepping about it non stop. So.... the million $ question is, why there hasn't been a stinking beep out of Mad Coward's mouth... ?? My money is, anyone crazy enough to yell for impeachment of Bush, would be laughed out of town.
Prove me wrong! Go impeach Bush!!
I don't have to impeach Bush. There is a committee investigating that possibility right now, Maybe you heardabout that whole... "There are no Hereditary kings in America, Mr. Bush" thing? I am pretty sure Fox News gave it at least a little play.
Kristofer68SS
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OmarJackson said:
First, Bush is a collective term. Including his father, his VP, his fishing buddies, is brothers, etc.....And they all gained. You just dont know your facts. Bush and his coattails had everything to gain. Months prior to 911 he was asking congress for money. Guess what, after 911 he was made sheriff and loan manager.
The war is all about money and contracts. Dont be foolish now. Lots of money.
I dont personally need an example of civil liberties being violated for the patriot to be unconstitutional. Our forefathers would **** the way this administration has butchered the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
You are so wrong on the outcome and financial gains resulting from 911. These guys have made millions. Guess what, we are paying for it.
Right now we owe around 30k each. Not all of this is bush, but we were in alot better shape prior to Juniors term.
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This is what the war in Iraq is costing us.
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Here is one article on who gained from 911....Guess who. There are many more. But i am growing tiresome of teaching common sense 101.
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I dont want to insult anyone, but we have been duped big time. Big time.
I can go on and on.
OmarJackson
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Kristofer68SS said:
its not that you don't need one, you don't have one.
I restate: name one civil liberty that has been violated under the Patriot Act. you can't, which is why you instead rely on the same hypothetical claim that "our forefathers would be blah blah blah"
if you had it your way the patriot act would be replaced with the terrorist protection act and we'ed have another 9/11 becasue no-doubt it would prohibit aggressive, pre-emptive law enforcement neccessary to bring down terrorists living within our borders.
the fact is that our law enforcement STILL cannot do any of the nasty "violations" liberals complain about, electronic surveillance, record searches, etc. a federal court order is STILL required for any such investigation and so is probable cause.
I'm sure you really like flattering yourself into thinking that the our intelligence agencies are spying on your phone calls with your grandma and that your questions about her 5-cheese lasagna recipe are a matter of national security, but sadly for you, and luckily for the rest of us, THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN!
anabolicrhino
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OmarJackson said:
The Patriot Act (PA), by definition has a date of expiration. This is an important function of the (PA) because it has rather extreme consequences, which may not be relative under future conditions as specified by congress. When first implemented it established two important precedents. The first being that previous to the(PA) any person on American soil was protected by the constitution whether they were a USA citizen or not.
It also mandates any person determined to be a "terrorist threat" would be subject to "interrogation" outside the bounderies of the constitution. It details that, while the American goverment has a strict policy of torture free interrogations on American soil, they would no longer be bound by the same regulations abroad, specific to the interrogation of alleged terrorists.
So, as long as you do not find yourself determined to be an alleged terrorist, then the Patriot Act does not effect you.
The concern is that there was no indication of what the criteria for determining a person to be a terrorist would actually constitue. It is officially vague and regulated by the disgression of the enforcers....Yikes!
Somepeople have concerns of the (PA) enforcment being a first step towards a more fascist America...I don't think the USA will become a fascist state, but if it does we can't say nobody saw it coming!
Also, while the Patriot Act will expire. Its practices may still linger until challenged in constitutional court. The" Federal Income Tax Act" was another supposed short term act. Of course that one worked so well that they just keep taking our money even though it officially expired years ago!
BioHazzard
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anabolicrhino said:
Dude.. nice try at muddying the water.
1. He wasn't impeached. If he was, Al Gore would have been president. You just can't admit you were wrong.
2. There is no 'alleged' perjury. He fvcking lied under oath.
3. Don't insult the rest of us who are faithful to our wives or girl friends. You are free to speak for yourself. But some of us, are not cheats. We love and respect our partners, would not cheat.
And besides, if I were to cheat, I could definitely do better than some fat chick. :lol:
BioHazzard
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OmarJackson said:
Ouchie!!! that ought to hurt!! :lol:
BioHazzard
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I think the PA sucks in one thing.
It has become very difficult to open an investment account to hide asset. The brokerage wants all kind of proof of identity, addresses, and every thing else.
So, yeah. Sucks to be drug pushers and terrorists these days. Moving money around, has become a lot more difficult. I bet it must be a lot more difficult for the Kennedys, the Rockfellers, the Schumers, to hide their dirty laundry these days....
:lol:
It has become very difficult to open an investment account to hide asset. The brokerage wants all kind of proof of identity, addresses, and every thing else.
So, yeah. Sucks to be drug pushers and terrorists these days. Moving money around, has become a lot more difficult. I bet it must be a lot more difficult for the Kennedys, the Rockfellers, the Schumers, to hide their dirty laundry these days....
:lol:
Jayhawkk
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BioHazzard said:
Some controversy? The man has had Sept. 11th, Katrina, WMD, Gas prices and several other things out there. It's not some controversy it's a lot and what happens is it causes people to look for a scape goat and he becomes the prime target. So those on the fence will probably lean Democrat for a time, ignoring any good ideas from the republicans. Again, I don't think he's done a bad job but his good deeds will be overlooked while the media and others spend all their time on those subjects bypassing others with importance.
Before you spout off at the mouth like an ignorant child why don't you look at facts, for once. What happens when a chief of police brings attention to himself? A senior executive, movie star, senator, congressman, etc? It just so happens that the president is a little bit harder to just get rid of. People in high profile jobs have been known to be removed or relocated to other less public jobs when controversy surrounding them takes away from getting the job done.
It's not the democrat hang mongers...It's pretty much political morons like yourself that speak just to hear yourself speak. Nothing to add, nothing to debate, nothing of intelligence. Just listening to idiots over and over again yell from the roof tops like drunken fools is enough to make even those with the most patience, lose it.
But feel free to live and grow in your world as its population seems to be small to begin with and there should be plenty of room to listen to the echos of your endless drivel.
anabolicrhino
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BioHazzard said:
Well as long as we are numbering:
!. Don't call me dude, call me Duke!
2. USA requires guilt to be proven in a court of your peers
3. I certainly did not mean to insult anyone who is legally bound by a marriage contract or personal faith that would preclude them from something as salacious as sodamizing an intern
4. Fat chicks need love too!!!
$. Her father is a politically connected Hollywood doctor, hey you never know when your will need one!
Kristofer68SS
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OmarJackson said:
How about 34 violations. And this was 3 years ago. I am sure there are many more.
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Benjamin Franklin-
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
OmarJackson
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Kristofer68SS said:
from the above article
THESE ARE THE COMPLAINTS AGAINST CIVIL LIBERTIES!?
terrorists killed 3000 innocent people for no reason and these are their fvcking complaints? what kind of upside down world are we living in?
first, these detainees aren't citizens. they are not protected by the constitution or bill of rights. they are POWs in an ongoing war, if these are the worst complaints they have then they should kiss the fvcking ground and bless allah.
conveniant for CNN (cresent news network) to leave out that detaines at gitmo spit and throw feces at the detention officers, and attack doctors when they go in for treatment (now doctors were body armor). But, nooooooo...... poor little terrorist detainees, we are being to tough and yelling at them, lets weep for the cold blooded baby killers for a moment.
just a reminder here's what treatment our POW's get in this war on islamic-facism:
you know what though, i don't think the right to have your head attached to your neck is protected under the bill of rights, so i suppose its fair game
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OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!! for the love of god! NOT THE CHILI PEPPERS! ANYTHING BUT THE CHILI PEPPERS! please put me in the pressure chamber? or fingernail removal, or the blowtorch and pliers ANYTHING BUT THE GOD DAMN CHILI PEPPERS! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!! for the love of god! NOT THE CHILI PEPPERS! ANYTHING BUT THE CHILI PEPPERS! please put me in the pressure chamber? or fingernail removal, or the blowtorch and pliers ANYTHING BUT THE GOD DAMN CHILI PEPPERS! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Kristofer68SS
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OmarJackson said:
so when you say terrorist, you mean your elected officials? I just want to clarify this. Because, we both know. It WASNT terrorists with box cutters on 911. I mean come on. Are you really that stupid? Have you read the 911 commission report, or the fema report. Especially the FEMA report.
The patriot act is a slap in our face. Taking our rights away is not the answer. Next it will be our guns.
I wont argue the debate of pow's or how they have been treated. Both sides break the rules. Part of the game.
Another good read on WTC 7. Thats if you have the capacity to logically reason. From your childish outbursts and insults, I am not so sure this is the case. Grab your binky, take a nap, then give this a read. Then come back with your analysis of why WTC 7 actually fell.
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anabolicrhino
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OmarJackson said:
If was something from their recent Anthony Kedis ballad laced efforts, then that would be cruel...but their earlier "Kill Coyotes" days is more inspirational positively sexually charged and very anti-islamic in nature
The Experiment
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I'm almost sure BioHazzard is being satirical. Nobody can be this ridiculous.