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Oh... look what the nice Fed Ex man delivered this morning just in time for PCT..
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SuperDump250??? You gotta get on that SuperPump Max! So good!
I want to try that. I got this stuff on the cheap so that's why its regular.
Honestly, Max is one of the better pre-workouts out right now...
My top 3 would be SuperPump Max, ASGT, and N2KTS
very impressive results my man. There is some great stuff in this thread. I'm just starting to read a bit about SARM's, I don't know a whole lot yet, but this is a good thread to start learning with.
Now is a SARM supposed to kind of be for people who want something similar to AAS but want to avoid the complete shutdown you get with AAS?
I mean who's gonna stack test with osta, that's what we need to see! LOL.
Ok i found some cheap superpump MAX. I just ordered up 2. Thanks for making me drop more $$$$$$ :lol:
Cool ill throw in some 45 - 60 min cardio on my off training days.
guys- i had blood work done on my ostarine run- i ran it IN pct my test lvls- 600's
estrogen WAS high(70's)
lipids- fine
so one persons log does not draw a conclusion- yet, it provides more evedence on ostarine and it's effects.
im using it again in my pct.
im not saying its safe or without sides, but im saying.....it is doable although its a mystery to me how his lipids got trashed, and t levels suppressed....
by the way schwell... did you use DAA when you used ostarine? Cuz i used osta and DAA during pct and felt pretty damn good, but no bloodwork
20-25min is all you really need at a heart rate around 160 3-4 times per week
Increase your soluble fiber
look into niacin... prob the only proven supplement (doctors prescribe it) to improve cholesterol values
and thats what im curious about, if his source my have spiked his ostarine....i dunno lol im going to post my blood panels though from this time around they will be up in about eh 35 days and then another set of them in 65 days
We can never throw that scenario out of the equation because it could have been anything. Im interested to see you're panels..
for sure, a bunch of speculation etc, and IF my blood panels show no negatives, it isn't conclusive either...hell the drug is still in human testing phases(though with very promising results)
Listen, I did not read this whole thread but I did read the first page, I wanted to comment on the lipids, this may have been discussed but I wanted to give my 2 cents
You were taking Erase and I believe a trans-res supp correct?
When you lower estrogen it could very adversely affect the lipids, and it is possible that the erase could have crushed your HDL, but again we don't know how low your e levels were because they were not taken after the osta was done, if you E levels were within normal during the osta run then we could contribute the lipid changes most likely to something else
Now for some people OSTA really increases E a lot, and for some others like Schwel not at all, so...for you it may have not increased E, but if you were running 3 caps a day of Erase that could really be the issue, could have lowered E a lot, causing the imbalance of healthy cholesterol levels
I am not sure if you are running Torem or not, pretty sure Ryansm recommended that, FYI I use that for PCT, only have 2 pulse cycles under my belt, but bloods have come back each time 2 weeks after PCT with lipids within healthy ranges
I hope you get this figured out, but the changes in you blood work is a risk you take when putting these things in your body, and although you make all the precautionary measures possible, there may be nothing you can do to prevent those changes
well since reading this thread, it seems it is best to treat OSTA as a steroid even though it isnt.
it lowers your Test and possibly raises your Estrogen for some folks. it is best IMO to just use Test Boosters, Estrogen Blockers like Erase, SERMS or whatever else as your PCT after you are done with OSTA or S4.
the only thing to run with OSTA or S4 is Cycle Support 2.0 to protect your liver.
This is a good way to look at it, run a PCT after an OSTA run, I know I will be, running OSTA and Androlean for 8 weeks on a cut, PCT with have Torem and a few other goodies
I always say its best just to be safe
if you are using a steroid then yeah you can do that with the OSTA or S4.
im going to be using S4 and OSTA together, going to use S4 only on weekdays and avoid using it on weekends to help avoid the yellow tint or whatever other sides.
on a sidenote, jayDollars, who is that girl in your sig?![]()
Great log with good information.
The one question I can't figure out is was Ostra a stand alone cycle, or run after Bola or some other AAS.
The other question I have is Ostra the only possible explanation for the low T. Blood samples taken at same time, etc.
If Ostra is a SARM its hard to understand why it would be suppressive....
Thanks for the response. Regardless, good results.
Did you observe any notable rebound effect after discontinuation, lethargy, agression, anything like that?
kind of worried after reading this...
Just finished a 7 week osta cycle about 2 weeks ago.
while on Osta i definitely lost my sex drive but towards the end it returned.
Now that i have been off for a couple of weeks i feel ****ty, bloated and slightly weaker.
but now i’m getting slightly puffy nipples.. should i take an AI and test booster? or follow OP and take something like torem?
WOW ! amazing results. Even week 3 was jaw dropping. I need some of this
Looking good bud, how did the PCT go for you? Did you get more bloods?
PCT was no problem ... My appeite came back raging. For some reason the osta killed it which was ok since I was on a recomp. No bloods yet . I plan to get them done within the next few weeks though.
My next cycle is delayed slightly due to a week vacation that I will be at my families cottage with no access to weights or a gym. Only thing I can do there is push ups, pull ups, and run. So I didn't want to be on that week because it would be a waste and didn't want to be in pct either.
Don't forget all the other body-weight exercises: hand-stand push-ups, single legged squats, etc...
I also found that it's good fun to do one-handed clean & press and one-handed rows with water jugs (the types that go on water coolers).
Oh no I didn't forget about all of those. Also some nice ideas to get by without weights. Thanks! I could also push a car or truck to help work legs out there.
If you got a place to do them sprints are great not only for cardio but LBM and CNS stimulation as well.
I feel like people stiiiilll havent figured it out yet. It seems that Osta does shut you down if you go about 25mgs. I have read multiple logs on multiple websites of people running it 25-50mgs and coming back with ****ty bloodwork. The others who use it in PCT at that dose, dont get bloodwork and say they feel fine are only fooling themselves. 12.5 seems to be a moderate dose for most people but i seriously wouldnt even risk it.
i would rather have my PCT go smoothly, get my natural test levels back up quicker so i can get ON something STRONG again. I feel like using Osta to "bridge" just because you dont want to feel off is a stupid idea. In the end you are just staying on lose dose of "something."
Believe me, i have thought about using Osta during my PCT and off time but i seriously think peptides is a much safer route to go if your OVERALL goal is to make sure you can have kids and have normal test function after your cycles.
just My Opinion on this.
I know the distrubuter he bought this from- it was most likey a steroid suspended in liquid, i have bloods after using ostarine in pct showing NO suppression, and NO damage to lipids, ostarine is hard to come by, you need to be very certain of your supplier