4 Non-Stim fatburners, which best suited for lean bulk and/or cut

[Nate K]

Alphaburn
(new version) Alpha T-2
Vanillean
TT-33

I am going to order and try all of these but I'm thinking about which to use during lean bulking and which to use during a cut with uppers caffeine/albuterol.

 

[d1sc1ple]

Alpha T-2 will do wonders on a lean bulk!! Preserves that mass. Do just the tt-33 if stacking with albuterol.

 

[sugardaddy69]

lean xtreme

 

[bolt10]

I'd say the new Alpha-T2 as the bacopa adaptogenic benefits go past just fat burning and olive leaf helps improve insulin sensitivity, so they both are helpful in any situation.

 

[domore]

Alphaburn +Vanillean is a nice one-two punch, given the central action of TRPV1 agonists and release of adrenergic catecholamines.

I think a Alphaburn + A-T2 stack would be pretty nice, too!

 

[Riskyb]

DCP, lean Xtreme, alpha T2

 

[fightbackhxc]

Alphaburn
(new version) Alpha T-2
Vanillean
TT-33

I am going to order and try all of these but I'm thinking about which to use during lean bulking and which to use during a cut with uppers caffeine/albuterol.

Might wanna check out thyrocaps and reduce xt and rk or green coffee bean extract. Great nonstim stack.

 

[warbird01]

TTA-500 and Reduce XT are great on a bulk. Specially when combined with a test booster like DAA or ArA product like X Gels. Lean gains while minimizing fat gain.

 

[iForce Dave]

TT33 will work in both situations

i think its obviously going to work best when stacked with stims, but Ihave used it in bulking phases to keep fat off...

I love TT33 its a staple in my contest prep. I can feel the heat right away

 

[scrapedshinz]

TTA-500 and Reduce XT are great on a bulk. Specially when combined with a test booster like DAA or ArA product like X Gels. Lean gains while minimizing fat gain.

I have not bulked with TTA-500 or Reduce XT, but I have used both for a pseudo cut/recomp and they worked wonders.

As always, I'd say ArA will work great on a bulk, but would shy away from it if you're in a caloric deficit.

 

[kbayne]

I have not bulked with TTA-500 or Reduce XT, but I have used both for a pseudo cut/recomp and they worked wonders.

As always, I'd say ArA will work great on a bulk, but would shy away from it if you're in a caloric deficit.

No need to shy away from ArA when in a caloric deficit. Yes, while on ArA the added calories through protein and carbs will be needed, still it works quite well on a cut and should give you great body composition results (although DOMS will be more intense with lower calories).

 

[sugardaddy69]

No need to shy away from ArA when in a caloric deficit. Yes, while on ArA the added calories through protein and carbs will be needed, still it works quite well on a cut and should give you great body composition results (although DOMS will be more intense with lower calories).

I just started xfa on a muscle perserving leaning out mode and I feel it I had to add more carb refeeds and cheat pig out meals to maintain focus and combat not so much doms but decreased energy I figure this goes hand in hand.

 

[warbird01]

I have not bulked with TTA-500 or Reduce XT, but I have used both for a pseudo cut/recomp and they worked wonders.

As always, I'd say ArA will work great on a bulk, but would shy away from it if you're in a caloric deficit.

Why not use ArA on a cut? I have seen a lot of people have great results with ArA on a cut, myself included.

 

[SwolenONE]

I wouldnt go with any of those four, DCP and Lean Xtreme are both in my eyes better suited for a lean bulk.

Also, you may want to consider an arachidonic acid product such as X-Factor or X-Factor Advanced. A lot of people tend to think ArA will add a ton of mass immediately (with no caloric change), but for most users the recomp and leaning out effect is what stands out and keeps them coming back again and again.

 

[Clemenza]

Erase Pro. Yes it's a test booster, but primarily an anti cortisol and anti estrogen, which will help shred off the fat. I lean up better on Erase Pro than any other stim

 

[Myokemist]

I wouldnt go with any of those four, DCP and Lean Xtreme are both in my eyes better suited for a lean bulk.Also, you may want to consider an arachidonic acid product such as X-Factor or X-Factor Advanced. A lot of people tend to think ArA will add a ton of mass immediately (with no caloric change), but for most users the recomp and leaning out effect is what stands out and keeps them coming back again and again.

^^^^This.

 

[criticalbench]

TT33 will work in both situations

i think its obviously going to work best when stacked with stims, but Ihave used it in bulking phases to keep fat off...

I love TT33 its a staple in my contest prep. I can feel the heat right away

Agreed.. and with the enhanced protein synthesis from tt33 it has a nice place on a lean bulk cycle.

Mike

 

[fightbackhxc]

TTA-500 and Reduce XT are great on a bulk. Specially when combined with a test booster like DAA or ArA product like X Gels. Lean gains while minimizing fat gain.

I like.

 

[sugardaddy69]

any positive feedback on decimate?

been thinking about ordering instead of lx since it is gone atm

 

[warbird01]

any positive feedback on decimate?

been thinking about ordering instead of lx since it is gone atm

Not sure about that one but Reduce XT is in stock

 

[rome32]

I'm big on the new Alpha-T2! Pretty excited to try it myself

 

[mr.cooper69]

Alpha-T2 was designed to be exceptionally versatile. Unlike most fat burners which fail on a bulk, Alpha-T2 uses olive leaf extract to improve insulin sensitivity and glucose disposal, something which many people find essential when increasing carbs.

Similarly, on a cut, Alpha-T2 uses the thyrotropic and mood boosting effects of all 4 ingredients to induce a thermogenic environment.

 

[XIXOX]

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