TimberLakers
Well-known member
She had spine elongation surgery.. There's no WAY that torso modifcation is natural. :006:
2 DAYS ON RECREATE/PWFULL/AP-feeling like an alpha FE-MALE !!!
- Thread starter dragonfly
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She had spine elongation surgery.. There's no WAY that torso modifcation is natural. :006:
snagency
Banned
Nah..arms d-d-def look i-i-i-intimidating :nervous:.. but no worries, femininity still rules the day! Actually I need to comment on your chest striations there, that ripple in the middle is more profuse than mine! :blink:
A chick without a full-length mirror?? Now, that is an anomaly! :lol:
Looking great DF..so's that freezer!
(minus the SaraLee whatever-that-is in there..) 
dragonfly
Well-known member
TL you crack me up, what an appropriate choice of words !
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Invalid Link Removed ... maybe I should be getting worried ! It is actually more pronounced than that, I'm sure I can dig some better photos that show it...hmm, maybe not! :lol:
Anomaly seems to be a virtue of mine according to the current poll, haha !
Looking great DF..so's that freezer!
100% natural frozen berry mix, no added sugar
TimberLakers
Well-known member
Irish Cannon
Legend
100% natural frozen berry mix, no added sugar
I was wondering about that Sara Lee stuff...I just wrote it off as a roommates, but that's fine too! :thumbsup:
...as long as they're not aspartame-berries.
snagency
Banned
Ahahaa..my bad, soo much to comment on, totally forgot to mention that!
The increase in your reps/weight was nutz! :crazy:GREAT WORK!!
Irish Cannon
Legend
Daaaaang. JKP just said put your money where your mouth is. :bandit:
jakellpet
Banned
Yes DF - called out! (although I have a sneaking suspicion they're going to be striations and definition to put most of us here to shame :006
Irish Cannon
Legend
Yes DF - called out! (although I have a sneaking suspicion they're going to be striations and definition to put most of us here to shame :006
You can't let her know you're scared...
....if we don't move, maybe she won't see us...
jakellpet
Banned
TimberLakers
Well-known member
:toofunny:
dragonfly
Well-known member
I am going to elegantly avoid that for the time being
.... and make a little digression...Have you guys ever felt like you were fighting a battle you couldn't win ?
It did today.
Time and energy are precious resources. It is unwise to waste them.
End of rant, onto today’s workout:
CHEST, BIS & TRIS
SUPERSET 1
1. Bench
2. Chin-Ups
SUPERSET 2
1. BB Curls
2. Dips
1. Bench
2. Chin-Ups
SUPERSET 2
1. BB Curls
2. Dips
* 6 sets each exercise, 24 sets total
* Compared to last week, increase in reps was freakin’ ridiculous.
* I was doing body weight dips and chins to failure and then drop - setting to assisted machine-dips & chins.
* There was a point in time where I thought, hey this is quite Invalid Link Removed I should be adding some weight instead ! :twisted:
* Well there is always next time
I really love this workout routine and I’m already excited about next week Invalid Link Removed* Apologies for not making a more detailed post. I had a very long day at work, and an even longer one ahead tomorrow.... with an uber early start.
* Boss called for a lab meeting outside regular hours (translated: will have to wake up at crack of dawn
). I am soooo TIRED, got to .....Invalid Link RemovedIrish Cannon
Legend
That's a good lookin' workout! Nice job on the repetition increase. :thumbsup:
dragonfly
Well-known member
Thanks, won't be really happy until I'm capable of doing chinups and dips with some decent weight attached on me. If I already have man-looking arms they should be capable of moving more than 125lbs ! :lol:
CORRECT Snag, tho the giant set is a tempting idea. I might try something along these lines next time:
1. Chins
2. Dips
3. Curls
4. Bench
:saevilw:2. Dips
3. Curls
4. Bench
If only all rants were that succint! My lab meeting are always at 9:30, so on those days I don't usually come in until 9:15 anyways
Ah, we scientist must be succint
dragonfly
Well-known member
A bit late with the updates....
* Had an amazing cardio session yesterday.
THE BEAUTY OF THE AE&AX STACK IS THAT IT WORKS WONDERS ON BOTH FIELDS, CARDIO AND WEIGHTS :box:
* I'm still AMAZED by the level of intensity that I'm capable of maintaining during my runs. I forgot the concept of intervals. Once the beast is unleashed there is nothing that can stop it
* Had an amazing cardio session yesterday.
THE BEAUTY OF THE AE&AX STACK IS THAT IT WORKS WONDERS ON BOTH FIELDS, CARDIO AND WEIGHTS :box:
* I'm still AMAZED by the level of intensity that I'm capable of maintaining during my runs. I forgot the concept of intervals. Once the beast is unleashed there is nothing that can stop it
Attachments
dragonfly
Well-known member
I remember reading somewhere a discussion on how many reps/warmup sets are required for optimal performance. Obviously you don't want to expend too much energy doing warmups because that really hampers your ability to move heavy weights later on. However, too little is no good either.
I got to agree with Irish here, YES I SAID THAT !!!!! :lol: I tend to exaggerate my warmups more often then not.
When I don't Invalid Link Removed happens
Like it did today ... Invalid Link Removed
* 8 sets each, 32 total
* Workout was comparable to last week except that it didn't leave me with a sense of accomplishment :ntome:
* The only reason why I wasn't able to move more weight was inadequate warmup. I tried to do a shortcut and it didn't work Invalid Link Removed
* Squats in particular felt VERY uncomfortable. Invalid Link Removed Oh well, that's one mistake I won't be repeating !!!!
I got to agree with Irish here, YES I SAID THAT !!!!! :lol: I tend to exaggerate my warmups more often then not.
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Like it did today ... Invalid Link Removed
SUPERSET 1
1. DB Deads on Disc
2. ATG Squats
SUPERSET 2
1. BB Deads
2. DB Deads on Disc
1. DB Deads on Disc
2. ATG Squats
SUPERSET 2
1. BB Deads
2. DB Deads on Disc
* 8 sets each, 32 total
* Workout was comparable to last week except that it didn't leave me with a sense of accomplishment :ntome:
* The only reason why I wasn't able to move more weight was inadequate warmup. I tried to do a shortcut and it didn't work Invalid Link Removed
* Squats in particular felt VERY uncomfortable. Invalid Link Removed Oh well, that's one mistake I won't be repeating !!!!
snagency
Banned
Live and learn, my fanatical female friend.. :bandit:
Warm-ups are an individual thing imo..I find the older I get (or, the more weight I am able to toss up), the more I need to warm up -- but I still don't do much. Stretching periodically thruout the day does more for me than multiple warm-up sets.
dragonfly
Well-known member
dragonfly
Well-known member
WHAAAT ?! And I thought the Aussie customs were bad ! Good luck
I've been off Recreate for awhile now. I don't miss it that much. Prime is another story alltogether Irish Cannon
Legend
That's an interesting workout you've got. It's like you've got a power movement, followed up with a comparable DB exercise to hit the stabilizers (or vice versa).
...about the warmups, yes. Babywifey and Resolve got me into doing little to no warmup sets, but I just can't do it with Squats. I NEED to get a light set in...And on everything else I just feel much more prone to injury. I pulled my right pec a little doing Flat Bench BB Press and no warmup.
Nice workout regardless.
That "crap" icon is gross. :lol:
ozarkaBRAND
Well-known member
I'm late to sub..
but I must..
It appears you are the coolest female of all time.
That is all
but I must..
It appears you are the coolest female of all time.
That is all
dragonfly
Well-known member
Yes, squats and deadlifts are probably the worst if done “cold”. Everything was screaming at me on my 2nd set of squats cause I stacked way too much weight way to soon Invalid Link Removed Knees and back just couldn’t take it, plus I had no pump. I think the blood vessels must have constricted in horror
I'm late to sub..
but I must..
It appears you are the coolest female of all time.
That is all
HAHA ! Thanks Ozarka :biglaugh:
...and...not too late at all, the new log just started couple of pages ago
* After that gross “crap” workout I decided to take a rest day, It was really hard because I wanted to lift sooooo badly, positive aggression was overwhelming Invalid Link Removed
:lol:
....managed to resist the urge, took a hell of a lot of willpower Invalid Link Removed
* I did a VERY intense sprint session instead. Cardio on AE&AX is simply a pleasure I do not wish to deprive myself of
dragonfly
Well-known member
I thought about posting an update on supps, few new additions there, but a quick glance at looking at my kitchen cabinet :smileeek: killed that desire instantly Invalid Link Removed
Will get onto it soon enough, I promise !
Something else I want to talk about today:
WHEY
* Why ? Because it is the most consumed bodybuilding supplement and yet when it comes to choosing the best product a lot of people seem to use senseless criteria. Like taste. I mean, pizza and donuts taste awesome :doh: but you wouldn't incorporate them in your bodybuilding arsenal.
* OK, so most of us do know that Whey Concentrate sucks, what about the praised isolate ? Well, it all comes down to how it has been processed....
* Before I get into it, let me just make a brief Invalid Link Removed introduction
WHEY MICROFRACTIONS
Whey protein is not simply one protein, but a mixture of many. Individual whey proteins, known as microfractions, are responsible for whey's functional and biological benefits. If, as often happens in processing, these microfractions are altered or denatured, much of the health promoting value is lost. Some of the microfractions found in whey and their biological benefit are:
Also, while we're on the subject, many ready-to-drink whey-based protein beverages on the market are subjected to such harsh processing as to make the protein nearly nutritionally worthless and potentially toxic.15,18,22,23 Retort and UHT (Ultra High Temperature) processes used in the manufacture of such drinks, has been shown to denature fragile whey proteins, and produce foreign protein structures. 15,17,18,19,21,22
Proper, low temperature, whey isolate processing produces a product with the lowest amount of denatured proteins, and the highest most balanced ratio of active microfractions.
WHEY ISOLATE
In general terms, whey isolate is any whey protein achieving 90%+ protein content. There are two general types of processing which can produce a whey isolate. They are known as ion exchange, and microfiltration.
ION EXCHANGE Invalid Link Removed
The Ion exchange process of isolating whey protein was the first to yield protein contents of 90%+ while ridding the product of lactose, fat and cholesterol. Even today, after improved methods of whey extraction have been perfected, many unscrupulous supplement companies continue to tout Ion Exchange whey as a superior Whey Protein Isolate. The Ion exchange process involves separating the protein in whey from the undesirables on the basis of electrical charge. This method is able to extract the most protein, and the resultant product yields the highest protein percentage available. There is a big price to be paid for this seeming benefit, however. You see, a drastic shift in pH is required to drive the chemical reaction which isolates the protein. In so doing, the nature of the whey protein is compromised. The relatively allergenic Beta-Lacto Globulin fraction becomes predominant (instead of the more delicate Alpha-Lactalbumin) and many of the valuable microfractions of whey are lost or reduced including: glycomacropeptides, immunoglobulins, lactoperoxidase and lactoferrin. So in essence, what is produced is a stripped down protein that doesn't deliver many of the benefits of filtered whey.
So, in the Ion-Exchange process, ratios and quantities of valuable protein fractions are altered to produce a protein which may impart less of a heath promoting effect than that of a filtered whey.
MICROFILTRATION Invalid Link Removed
As discussed earlier, when a filtered protein reaches 90% protein the resultant protein is known as a whey isolate. A well manufactured filtered whey isolate will provide undenatured, usable protein and retains a whole host of other microfractions in proper balance, giving whey functional benefits above and beyond just the amino acid profile.
The microfiltration process allows only soluble proteins to pass through the membrane, thus removing the highest level of lactose, fat, cholesterol, and denatured proteins (denatured proteins are relatively insoluble). A well made protein will then be spray dried at low temperatures to maintain the structural and biological integrity of the protein.
So, to sum up the benefits of a properly produced filtered whey isolate:
The benefits of such a protein should now be overwhelmingly evident. There are still many, however, who are either ignorant of the health-promoting benefits of quality whey, or stands to gain financially from the sale of cheaper whey protein products. Many consumers are rightfully outraged when they learn the truth: that nutritional supplement companies often have no interest in producing health-promoting products. When damaging lies of this sort are perpetrated against so many, for so long, under the guise of promoting health, it is not the charge of simple ignorance which must be levied against these companies, but that of absolute, calculated fraud.
HYDROLYZED WHEY PROTEIN Invalid Link Removed
A hydrolyzed protein is one in which the longer chains of amino acids (whole proteins) are broken up enzymatically into to smaller peptides (pieces of proteins.) This process can be performed to different degrees; that is, vastly different size peptides can be produced having different functional characteristics. Because of this, the consumer has no way of knowing exactly what sort of peptides (and of what size) may be present in their hydrolyzed whey.
You may also hear hydrolyzed whey referred to as pre-digested or partially pre-digested whey protein, because, in essence, the hydrolyzation process breaks down peptides enzymatically in a manner similar to digestion. This makes peptides and free amino acids from hydrolyzed whey very easily to assimilate, but this is not necessarily as good as it may seem.
The purveyors of hydrolyzed whey usually focus on two functional properties of hydrolyzed whey:
The first of these is a legitimate benefit for individuals suffering from an allergy to certain whey proteins, the second is probably only an illusory benefit, as even intact whey is absorbed very rapidly in its own right. Most of the marketing of hydrolyzed whey is based around a single study which showed improved nitrogen retention in rats from hydrolyzed whey versus intact whey protein. 25
In the light of these supposed benefits, keep in mind that hydrolyzing whey destroys the protein structures and much of the functional benefit is lost. Whey's functional benefits have been shown to be related to the intact structure of whey microfractions, not just its amino acid profile. 3, 12
PROTEIN DENATURATION AND EXCITOTOXICITY Invalid Link Removed
As stated earlier, the degree of hydrolysis of a protein dictates how many bonds of the protein have been enzymatically "broken." Therefore, the greater the degree of hydrolysis, the smaller the protein fragments in a product become. The concept of hydrolyzing proteins arose to reduce the allergenicity of compounds such as dairy or soy. In fact you will often see hydrolyzed proteins used in baby formulas and enteric feeding formulas for sensitive or allergic individuals.
Free (non-protein bound) amino acids are not commonly found in unprocessed food, but may be liberated from native protein structures by certain types of processing, such as hydrolyzation.[/B] Somewhat surprisingly, free amino acids can have strikingly different metabolic effects in the body than those same amino acids consumed in whole food proteins. Considering that many amino acids act as precursors to, or are themselves, biogenic amines (brain chemicals), the effect of dietary free amino acids on the brain and nervous system can be significant. For example, Glutamic Acid (aka Glutamate), Aspartic Acid, and Cysteine, when in their free state, may act as excitotoxins. According Board-Certified Nuerosurgeon Russell Blaylock M.D.:
So, it's important to remember that undenatured, unaltered proteins contain amino acids as part of the native protein structure which the body can metabolize efficiently, whereas altered, denatured proteins and free amino acids can often have toxic effects, and in the case of excitotoxcicity, amino acids can literally excite neurons to death. Excitotoxcicity is a major field of study with researchers looking to unravel the mysteries of such neurological diseases as Alzheimer's, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Multiple Sclerosis among others. Keeping the above definition in mind, realize that whey contains abundant glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and cysteine. To hydrolyze such a protein and potentially free these amino acids from the native protein structure is flirting with neurological disaster.
Even if hydrolyzed whey were not toxic, the beneficial immunomodulating microfractions of whey are compromised with any significant hydrolyzation of the protein, 12 thus sacrificing one of whey's premiere benefits. In other words, the benefit of easier absorption of hydrolyzed whey comes at the expense of the glutathione-immune boosting properties of an intact whey protein. The vast majority of research literature on whey centers around the effects of various whey microfractions on immune function, and resistance to disease. Any practice which lessens these positive effects of whey shouldn't be embraced unquestioningly, especially considering the fact that intact whey is absorbed very rapidly in its own right.
The whole article can be found here Invalid Link Removed
It is quite well referenced, I give it :thumbsup:
Will get onto it soon enough, I promise !
Something else I want to talk about today:
WHEY
* Why ? Because it is the most consumed bodybuilding supplement and yet when it comes to choosing the best product a lot of people seem to use senseless criteria. Like taste. I mean, pizza and donuts taste awesome :doh: but you wouldn't incorporate them in your bodybuilding arsenal.
* OK, so most of us do know that Whey Concentrate sucks, what about the praised isolate ? Well, it all comes down to how it has been processed....
* Before I get into it, let me just make a brief Invalid Link Removed introduction
WHEY MICROFRACTIONS
Whey protein is not simply one protein, but a mixture of many. Individual whey proteins, known as microfractions, are responsible for whey's functional and biological benefits. If, as often happens in processing, these microfractions are altered or denatured, much of the health promoting value is lost. Some of the microfractions found in whey and their biological benefit are:
Beta-Lactoglobulin:
- Source of essential and branched chain amino acids.8
Alpha Lactalbumin:
- Primary protein found in human breast milk.
- Source of essential and branched chain amino acids. 8
Glycomacropeptide:
- Can reduce appetite via stimulation of CCK
- Acts as a Prebiotic
- Immunomodulator 24
Bovine Serum Albumin:
- Contains abundant glutamylcysteine sequences, precursors to glutathione. 24
Immunoglobulins:
- Primary protein found in colostrums.
- Imparts immune system modulating benefits.8
Lactoperoxidase:
- Inhibits growth of bacteria. 8
Lactoferrin:
- Antioxidant
- Antibacterial, antiviral, and antifungal
- Promotes growth of beneficial bacteria 8,16
- Source of essential and branched chain amino acids.8
Alpha Lactalbumin:
- Primary protein found in human breast milk.
- Source of essential and branched chain amino acids. 8
Glycomacropeptide:
- Can reduce appetite via stimulation of CCK
- Acts as a Prebiotic
- Immunomodulator 24
Bovine Serum Albumin:
- Contains abundant glutamylcysteine sequences, precursors to glutathione. 24
Immunoglobulins:
- Primary protein found in colostrums.
- Imparts immune system modulating benefits.8
Lactoperoxidase:
- Inhibits growth of bacteria. 8
Lactoferrin:
- Antioxidant
- Antibacterial, antiviral, and antifungal
- Promotes growth of beneficial bacteria 8,16
Also, while we're on the subject, many ready-to-drink whey-based protein beverages on the market are subjected to such harsh processing as to make the protein nearly nutritionally worthless and potentially toxic.15,18,22,23 Retort and UHT (Ultra High Temperature) processes used in the manufacture of such drinks, has been shown to denature fragile whey proteins, and produce foreign protein structures. 15,17,18,19,21,22
Proper, low temperature, whey isolate processing produces a product with the lowest amount of denatured proteins, and the highest most balanced ratio of active microfractions.
WHEY ISOLATE
In general terms, whey isolate is any whey protein achieving 90%+ protein content. There are two general types of processing which can produce a whey isolate. They are known as ion exchange, and microfiltration.
ION EXCHANGE Invalid Link Removed
The Ion exchange process of isolating whey protein was the first to yield protein contents of 90%+ while ridding the product of lactose, fat and cholesterol. Even today, after improved methods of whey extraction have been perfected, many unscrupulous supplement companies continue to tout Ion Exchange whey as a superior Whey Protein Isolate. The Ion exchange process involves separating the protein in whey from the undesirables on the basis of electrical charge. This method is able to extract the most protein, and the resultant product yields the highest protein percentage available. There is a big price to be paid for this seeming benefit, however. You see, a drastic shift in pH is required to drive the chemical reaction which isolates the protein. In so doing, the nature of the whey protein is compromised. The relatively allergenic Beta-Lacto Globulin fraction becomes predominant (instead of the more delicate Alpha-Lactalbumin) and many of the valuable microfractions of whey are lost or reduced including: glycomacropeptides, immunoglobulins, lactoperoxidase and lactoferrin. So in essence, what is produced is a stripped down protein that doesn't deliver many of the benefits of filtered whey.
So, in the Ion-Exchange process, ratios and quantities of valuable protein fractions are altered to produce a protein which may impart less of a heath promoting effect than that of a filtered whey.
MICROFILTRATION Invalid Link Removed
As discussed earlier, when a filtered protein reaches 90% protein the resultant protein is known as a whey isolate. A well manufactured filtered whey isolate will provide undenatured, usable protein and retains a whole host of other microfractions in proper balance, giving whey functional benefits above and beyond just the amino acid profile.
The microfiltration process allows only soluble proteins to pass through the membrane, thus removing the highest level of lactose, fat, cholesterol, and denatured proteins (denatured proteins are relatively insoluble). A well made protein will then be spray dried at low temperatures to maintain the structural and biological integrity of the protein.
So, to sum up the benefits of a properly produced filtered whey isolate:
Lower in cholesterol
Less allergenic
More immune boosting microfractions
More growth promoting microfractions
Less denatured proteins
Lactose free
Higher protein percentage
Better, cleaner taste than a concentrate
Mixes easily
Less allergenic
More immune boosting microfractions
More growth promoting microfractions
Less denatured proteins
Lactose free
Higher protein percentage
Better, cleaner taste than a concentrate
Mixes easily
The benefits of such a protein should now be overwhelmingly evident. There are still many, however, who are either ignorant of the health-promoting benefits of quality whey, or stands to gain financially from the sale of cheaper whey protein products. Many consumers are rightfully outraged when they learn the truth: that nutritional supplement companies often have no interest in producing health-promoting products. When damaging lies of this sort are perpetrated against so many, for so long, under the guise of promoting health, it is not the charge of simple ignorance which must be levied against these companies, but that of absolute, calculated fraud.
HYDROLYZED WHEY PROTEIN Invalid Link Removed
A hydrolyzed protein is one in which the longer chains of amino acids (whole proteins) are broken up enzymatically into to smaller peptides (pieces of proteins.) This process can be performed to different degrees; that is, vastly different size peptides can be produced having different functional characteristics. Because of this, the consumer has no way of knowing exactly what sort of peptides (and of what size) may be present in their hydrolyzed whey.
You may also hear hydrolyzed whey referred to as pre-digested or partially pre-digested whey protein, because, in essence, the hydrolyzation process breaks down peptides enzymatically in a manner similar to digestion. This makes peptides and free amino acids from hydrolyzed whey very easily to assimilate, but this is not necessarily as good as it may seem.
The purveyors of hydrolyzed whey usually focus on two functional properties of hydrolyzed whey:
Reduced allergenicity
Faster absorption
Faster absorption
The first of these is a legitimate benefit for individuals suffering from an allergy to certain whey proteins, the second is probably only an illusory benefit, as even intact whey is absorbed very rapidly in its own right. Most of the marketing of hydrolyzed whey is based around a single study which showed improved nitrogen retention in rats from hydrolyzed whey versus intact whey protein. 25
In the light of these supposed benefits, keep in mind that hydrolyzing whey destroys the protein structures and much of the functional benefit is lost. Whey's functional benefits have been shown to be related to the intact structure of whey microfractions, not just its amino acid profile. 3, 12
PROTEIN DENATURATION AND EXCITOTOXICITY Invalid Link Removed
As stated earlier, the degree of hydrolysis of a protein dictates how many bonds of the protein have been enzymatically "broken." Therefore, the greater the degree of hydrolysis, the smaller the protein fragments in a product become. The concept of hydrolyzing proteins arose to reduce the allergenicity of compounds such as dairy or soy. In fact you will often see hydrolyzed proteins used in baby formulas and enteric feeding formulas for sensitive or allergic individuals.
Free (non-protein bound) amino acids are not commonly found in unprocessed food, but may be liberated from native protein structures by certain types of processing, such as hydrolyzation.[/B] Somewhat surprisingly, free amino acids can have strikingly different metabolic effects in the body than those same amino acids consumed in whole food proteins. Considering that many amino acids act as precursors to, or are themselves, biogenic amines (brain chemicals), the effect of dietary free amino acids on the brain and nervous system can be significant. For example, Glutamic Acid (aka Glutamate), Aspartic Acid, and Cysteine, when in their free state, may act as excitotoxins. According Board-Certified Nuerosurgeon Russell Blaylock M.D.:
An excitotoxin is a substance added to foods and beverages that literally stimulates neurons to death, causing brain damage of varying degrees. They can be found in such ingredients as monosodium glutamate, aspartame (Nutrasweet), cysteine, hydrolyzed protein and aspartic acid.13
So, it's important to remember that undenatured, unaltered proteins contain amino acids as part of the native protein structure which the body can metabolize efficiently, whereas altered, denatured proteins and free amino acids can often have toxic effects, and in the case of excitotoxcicity, amino acids can literally excite neurons to death. Excitotoxcicity is a major field of study with researchers looking to unravel the mysteries of such neurological diseases as Alzheimer's, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Multiple Sclerosis among others. Keeping the above definition in mind, realize that whey contains abundant glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and cysteine. To hydrolyze such a protein and potentially free these amino acids from the native protein structure is flirting with neurological disaster.
Note: One purveyor of "natural" protein powder goes so far as to claim that his protein contains no MSG and that the glutamic acid present in his product is "inherent to whey protein" while using hydrolyzed whey in the formula. Putting aside the possibility that this individual is being blatantly misleading, he apparently is unaware that while MSG (monosodium glutamate) may not be added to the product, similarly excitotoxic free Glutamic Acid (or glutamate) is produced in the protein hydrolyzation process. This same individual also claims that there is not enough difference between a whey concentrate and isolate to justify the increased price of an isolate. It's just that sort of ignorance that this article is intended to combat.
Even if hydrolyzed whey were not toxic, the beneficial immunomodulating microfractions of whey are compromised with any significant hydrolyzation of the protein, 12 thus sacrificing one of whey's premiere benefits. In other words, the benefit of easier absorption of hydrolyzed whey comes at the expense of the glutathione-immune boosting properties of an intact whey protein. The vast majority of research literature on whey centers around the effects of various whey microfractions on immune function, and resistance to disease. Any practice which lessens these positive effects of whey shouldn't be embraced unquestioningly, especially considering the fact that intact whey is absorbed very rapidly in its own right.
With hydrolyzed whey, you sacrifice much, if not all of the immune boosting effect that makes whey so valuable for growth and repair of the body's tissues, and depending upon the degree of hydrolysis, you potentially run the risk of exposing yourself to excitotoxic amino acids that could be produced during the hydrolyzation process.
The whole article can be found here Invalid Link Removed
It is quite well referenced, I give it :thumbsup:
TimberLakers
Well-known member
Wow, awesome information.
Guess I never payed too much attention to what all the different separation actions really did...
In summary - Microfiltration FTW!
Guess I never payed too much attention to what all the different separation actions really did...
In summary - Microfiltration FTW!
Irish Cannon
Legend
True...True.
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Yes well, building muscle isn't just about training and eating BIG ... speaking of which, I'm still in the process of catching up with your log Chef Snag
It's only taking you so long since you're trying to cook all those recipes
Excellent article, agreed. I did alot of research into the diff. methods back when I was looking at all the different types of whey that TrueProtein carried :dunno:
dragonfly
Well-known member
Neither did I in the beginning, but then again, I'm a science nerd and we like to know EVERYTHING !!! :biglaugh:
Right Steve ?
What ? Cannon agrees with Dragon ? Where's the fun in that ?! :ntome:
It can never get too crowded here for a party, welcome dmillz
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It's only taking you so long since you're trying to cook all those recipes
Excellent article, agreed. I did alot of research into the diff. methods back when I was looking at all the different types of whey that TrueProtein carried :dunno:
You got to be especially careful with your choice of whey Steve, what was it, 5lb in 5 days ?
By the way, congrats on getting accepted to med school Invalid Link Removed
dragonfly
Well-known member
WEEK 3
SECOND LEG WORKOUT
I had the urge to hit legs because the previous workout left me kind of
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ONLY TWO EXERCISES:
* This time I did a proper warmup and in order to spare my back, opted for low weight high rep scheme (max weight previous workout was 154lb, 4reps below parallel but not ATG)
* Let me tell you something about these squats. I do them very slow, ATG, at the bottom I pause and come to a COMPLETE RELAXATION, and then I either get up .... or Invalid Link Removed
:lol:
BACK & SHOULDERS
* I always lift in the afternoon, because I am NOT a morning person Invalid Link Removed
* Most men I know like to work out in the morning whilst girls like to sleep in.
* Well, since I've been on this stack I've been feeling more aggressive in the mornings so I'm assuming my testosterone levels must be on the rise ....
Am I turning into a male ?!
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* Anyways, I decided to take advantage of this early test-rush today and hit the gym, it was totally unplanned, I simply felt an irresistible craving that HAD TO BE SATISFIED Invalid Link Removed ...
* Slightly different workout than usual, got to improvise sometimes
SUPERSET 1
NOT DONE IN A SUPERSET:
* Felt AWESOME, pull ups were considerably up in reps, I do them from a completely relaxed hanging position, no partial crap. Just BW then on failure I jump on the assisted machine. Cleans&Presses, ugh, haven't done them in ages, I was surprised to find I haven't re-gressed much. By the time I hit the Rows my back was fried....which is a good thing
* Side note: There was this douchebag in the gym doing everything WRONG ! 3/4 movement presses, swinging curls etc, you know the type...just as he got onto doing rope tricep pulldowns (errr, jerkdowns :lol, my ipod tuned on Metallica Lepper Messiah:
Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
Circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
* I was hardly able to contain myself Invalid Link Removed
SECOND LEG WORKOUT
I had the urge to hit legs because the previous workout left me kind of
I still had back issues Invalid Link Removed but I thought of a way of killing my legs regardless Invalid Link Removed
ONLY TWO EXERCISES:
5 sets of BOX stepups (box is up to my waist)
11 sets of squats 10-15 rep range, rest 30-45sec Max weight 120lb (so basically my bodyweight, 6 sets)
* This time I did a proper warmup and in order to spare my back, opted for low weight high rep scheme (max weight previous workout was 154lb, 4reps below parallel but not ATG)
* Let me tell you something about these squats. I do them very slow, ATG, at the bottom I pause and come to a COMPLETE RELAXATION, and then I either get up .... or Invalid Link Removed
:lol:
BACK & SHOULDERS
* I always lift in the afternoon, because I am NOT a morning person Invalid Link Removed
* Most men I know like to work out in the morning whilst girls like to sleep in.
* Well, since I've been on this stack I've been feeling more aggressive in the mornings so I'm assuming my testosterone levels must be on the rise
....Am I turning into a male ?!
Invalid Link Removed Invalid Link Removed* Anyways, I decided to take advantage of this early test-rush today and hit the gym, it was totally unplanned, I simply felt an irresistible craving that HAD TO BE SATISFIED Invalid Link Removed ...
* Slightly different workout than usual, got to improvise sometimes
SUPERSET 1
1. Pull Ups; 8 sets
2. DB Shoulder Press; 8 sets
2. DB Shoulder Press; 8 sets
NOT DONE IN A SUPERSET:
3. Cleans&Presses; 7 sets
4. Bent Over BB Rows; 5 sets
4. Bent Over BB Rows; 5 sets
* Felt AWESOME, pull ups were considerably up in reps, I do them from a completely relaxed hanging position, no partial crap. Just BW then on failure I jump on the assisted machine. Cleans&Presses, ugh, haven't done them in ages, I was surprised to find I haven't re-gressed much. By the time I hit the Rows my back was fried....which is a good thing
* Side note: There was this douchebag in the gym doing everything WRONG !
3/4 movement presses, swinging curls etc, you know the type...just as he got onto doing rope tricep pulldowns (errr, jerkdowns :lol, my ipod tuned on Metallica Lepper Messiah:Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
Circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
* I was hardly able to contain myself Invalid Link Removed
Irish Cannon
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* Side note: There was this douchebag in the gym doing everything WRONG !
Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
Circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
* I was hardly able to contain myself Invalid Link Removed
You're just jealous he was more muscley than you.
TimberLakers
Well-known member
You're just jealous he was more muscley than you.
This seems to be a reoccuring theme... Me and bodyguards, IC and the sweet spotter dude, now DFly and the partial rep maniac.
By the way DFly, I hate morning workouts too. So either its not a man thing, or I'm a damn chick.
Pics are looking sharp.
Irish Cannon
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I would assume the latter.
...is that just since you've been on Epi, or all the time? I'm always ready to hit the iron in the morning - that's when T-levels are highest!...but on Epi, I was always ready to take a nap after breakfast.
TimberLakers
Well-known member
I would assume the latter.
...is that just since you've been on Epi, or all the time? I'm always ready to hit the iron in the morning - that's when T-levels are highest!...but on Epi, I was always ready to take a nap after breakfast.
Haven't noticed a drop in energy levels really. Since the beginning of time, Timber wants to sleep forever, and go to battle at night.
snagency
Banned
Irish Cannon
Legend
:hump:
TimberLakers
Well-known member
Irish Cannon
Legend
VolcomX311
Legend
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dragonfly again
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buster0371
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dragonfly
Well-known member
Not quite:
The Annoying Cop ----> Invalid Link Removed
Invalid Link Removed <--------Timber - Come out and play !!!!!