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10 days into Boladrol... Not really feeling anything

GetHyooge said:
Not really, I just expect products to do what they claim, I mean I forked over like $77 for that kit and it did nothing, forked over $75 for Boladrol and so far nothing. I know what I should expect from a good working PH as I have ran some and had excellent results.
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you sound like a dumb ass to me. if you did proper research before buying the compounds, you would know acceptable dosages for each.

at a minimum, you would need 2 of the ams kits, to give you two bottles of each. but you really need 3-4 for a decent 4 week cycle.

and boladrol tablets should be ran in the 6-12mg range.

I found 4mg enough in the first week of the liquid beta test, but quickly noticed it needed to be dosed higher to keep gains comming.

I'm not saying the products live up to their hype. I dont think they do at the rec dosages the company puts out.
but if dosed properly, they both will produce gains, just like any other compound.
 
I am skeptical of the original poster, and of boladrol too...but I am running it now too and will make my own judgment. And another thing not everyone responds to all ph/ds, some people even run superdrol with no gains, rare but it has happened.
 
Nobody is denying these things may give results at 3-4x the recommended dosage, but they claimed it to be so strong and potent that you only need to take real small doses, same with the AMS hormone regulation kit, all hyped up to be strong and potent. I for one am not gonna go buy 3 hormone regulation kits or 3-4 packs of boladrol just to see some results, you sound like the dumbass to me.
 
schwellington said:
non responder is bullsh!t

if it was really converting to bolasterone you would see RESULTS'


bolasterone is POWERFUL im looking at using it in my next blast,


not ibe's so called ph to bola

but actual bolasterone

if your not responding its bunk
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I wouldn't waste your money. there is no legit bolasterone on the market.
 
GetHyooge said:
Nobody is denying these things may give results at 3-4x the recommended dosage, but they claimed it to be so strong and potent that you only need to take real small doses, same with the AMS hormone regulation kit, all hyped up to be strong and potent. I for one am not gonna go buy 3 hormone regulation kits or 3-4 packs of boladrol just to see some results, you sound like the dumbass to me.
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well, i may be a dumb ass, but im not the genius buying products that dont work @ rec. dosage.

:lmao:
 
I was pretty amped about boladrol, I even bought a pack but even the IBE guys have to admit that doubling the recommend dose after releasing the product is concerning.

Also, there are a lot of threads or logs that claim no or very little results. Someone mentioned that these are fake or were created with an alterior motive and that this is obvious. Perhaps I haven't been around long enough but it's not obvious to me. I wouldn't be on this board if I didn't think that most of the posters motivations were pure.

Not trying to talk sh--, just to facilitate a discussion so I can decide if and how to run this stuff.
 
and for everyone reading this.

be smart about purchasing steroids. research.

if clinical studies of the parent compound, (here it's bolasterone) use dosages in the range of 1-2mg per day, and supra physiological dosages are recomended in the 2-5mg per day range.

Common sense tells you you are going to need more, maybe even twice that.

so one could say in the 4-10mg range. which means some may only need 4mg, others will need 10mg's. STARTING OUT. you may need to go higher with the dosage as time goes on.

I ran a sponsored log of bolasterone. but the product I used was a liquid, and came in a dropper vial.
so I can not really comment on the tablets effenciency, and I dont think other beta testers should either.

now, if you ran the tablets, then i think those reviews will take more weight than the beta testers.
who knows what that 190 proof solution did. the compound may have been unstable and converted in the vial into bolasterone. it's anyone's guess, but could be a possibility.

Now, if you dont do this proper research, and just believe what companies tell you, then dont get poor results and come on a forum and whine about it.
Count your losses, and learn from it.
 
Consistent positive reviews of product manufactured by a board sponsor are suspicious.

When the reviews are more mixed that is more believable. Then again if anyone says anything negative about a product manufactured by a board sponsor they are flamed, negged, or even banned.

Note: This is more of a general statement and not meant to depict my favorable or non-favorable opinion of IBE's or any other manufactures products and/or supplements.
 
Well, I just don't see IBE being the type of company to ruin their name just to sell a few hundred packs of Boladrol. If there's any issue, don't resort to the name calling and insults. Just get your money back.
 
T-Bone said:
Consistent positive reviews of product manufactured by a board sponsor are suspicious.

When the reviews are more mixed that is more believable. Then again if anyone says anything negative about a product manufactured by a board sponsor they are flamed, negged, or even banned.

Note: This is more of a general statement and not meant to depict my favorable or non-favorable opinion of IBE's or any other manufactures products and/or supplements.
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That's a bit backwards? Usually my methodology when deciding to use a product follows:

1. Does it make sense on paper (check)
2. How do the sponsored logs look (check)
3. How do the unsponsored logs look (check)

Sometimes if it qualifies through #1 I'll skip #2 and #2. :)
 
I just noticed that TripDogg ran Bola at 8mg, then 12mg a day in the Boladrol is no joke thread where he reported impressive results. Maybe it just needs to be run at those doses.

2 packs is still cheap, $60 or something like that. Lets say you get 10 solid lbs out of it. I know I would pay a s- load more than $60 for 10 lbs...

Who else had solid results without stacking?
 
T-Bone said:
Then again if anyone says anything negative about a product manufactured by a board sponsor they are flamed, negged, or even banned.
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well, if this was true, i'd be in the red, hated, and banned for sure. i dont think anyone talks more out their ass than i do.
 
mmowry said:
BTW how many people do you know that have run Bolasterone? Just curious.


Alot actually its still easily obtained via the black market


no i will not list souces though cause i dont wanna get banned!
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Knowbull said:
IMO, IME, Bdrol works, problem is, it cant be run very long cos of androgenic sides
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What are the androgenic sides you've seen?

Oh and it works, I am on day 4 of a pulse I'm doing and the strength a d weight gains are there, but I am running it at 10mg per day
 
Royd The Noyd said:
I believe it's generally known that the bola available on the market right now is....well, not bola.
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you mean like that bola from a certain company that comes in 50mg tablets?

lmao, try telling all the suckers buying it that it's not bolasterone. no luck.

A little research in black market bolasterone tells you there is no legit bolasterone for sale.
 
mmowry said:
BTW how many people do you know that have run Bolasterone? Just curious.



There a bunch of holes it this theory the biggest one being....make a great 1st run product (which is <5% of longterm sales) then change the second run to guarantee that you lose repeat business (> 95% long term sales)

Im out have fun folks. :D
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I posted this just for fun... but I'm on some other boards where reputable bro's with more than a little AAS experience were getting big results off 4mg when it first hit the market. Now I see everyone saying you need to run it at twice that.

The issue with this market is not that the companies are trying to f*uck anyone, but that all the sh*t comes from china. I know the companies are supposed to test every batch that comes through for consistency, but lets be honest, that takes coin.

I have no doubt that boladrol works... but I also have no doubt that some bottles/batches/lots whatever you want to call it, work better than others.

I have used bottles from the same company of the same product and gotten different results. It's just part of the business.

Goes the same way for UG labs injectables, research chems, peptides... the consistency is never there when companies are going through 2nd and 3rd parties to get the raws
 
Movin_weight said:
I posted this just for fun... but I'm on some other boards where reputable bro's with more than a little AAS experience were getting big results off 4mg when it first hit the market. Now I see everyone saying you need to run it at twice that.

The issue with this market is not that the companies are trying to f*uck anyone, but that all the sh*t comes from china. I know the companies are supposed to test every batch that comes through for consistency, but lets be honest, that takes coin.

I have no doubt that boladrol works... but I also have no doubt that some bottles/batches/lots whatever you want to call it, work better than others.

I have used bottles from the same company of the same product and gotten different results. It's just part of the business.

Goes the same way for UG labs injectables, research chems, peptides... the consistency is never there when companies are going through 2nd and 3rd parties to get the raws
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I'm sure IBE wouldn't mind sharing where the raws come from if you asked, then you could do your own research. It would be interesting to know the quality of raws and from where they come.
 
Well the raws question is why we havent got Trenavar and Mentabolin out yet, because we tested them, yeah we shelled out the coin :D

On the Boladrol, we are still using our original raws which tested out great so thats not an issue.
 
BTW no raws are accepted unless they are 95% or greater in purity.
 
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the bolasterone i have access to is in 5 mg tablets :P
 
well, thats a plus at least. or could be a minus. not sure. it's a lot easier to know it isn't bolasterone when they are 50mg tablets. lol. most likely thats just anadrol.

but if it's 5mg tablets. it could be dbol, or methyl 1 test (which is just a 7a methyl away from bolasterone).

I would expect bolasterone to be in 1mg tablets. but i've never seen any legit bolasterone anyhow, so i dont know.
 
According to llewellyn, true myagen is readily available on the current underground market. So shwell may actually have a legitimate source.

As far as boladrol goes, I saw favorable results from 1 packet of bola...i see no reason why anyone else couldn't. You just have to stick with it
 
jbryand101b said:
and for everyone reading this.

be smart about purchasing steroids. research.

if clinical studies of the parent compound, (here it's bolasterone) use dosages in the range of 1-2mg per day, and supra physiological dosages are recomended in the 2-5mg per day range.

Common sense tells you you are going to need more, maybe even twice that.

so one could say in the 4-10mg range. which means some may only need 4mg, others will need 10mg's. STARTING OUT. you may need to go higher with the dosage as time goes on.

I ran a sponsored log of bolasterone. but the product I used was a liquid, and came in a dropper vial.
so I can not really comment on the tablets effenciency, and I dont think other beta testers should either.

now, if you ran the tablets, then i think those reviews will take more weight than the beta testers.
who knows what that 190 proof solution did. the compound may have been unstable and converted in the vial into bolasterone. it's anyone's guess, but could be a possibility.

Now, if you dont do this proper research, and just believe what companies tell you, then dont get poor results and come on a forum and whine about it.
Count your losses, and learn from it.
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here's deal:

while i agree that people should research proper dosing, i think companies should be ethical enough to comply with what they are implicitly offering ( that is, they are selling you a 1 month supply at an effective dose).

people believe they are getting a 1 month supply of a/the effective dose. they have 60 pills, and the company sells take two a day. fine.

the question is, why are they ( many supplement companies) recommending you take half of the ideal dosing?

its like primordial saying '' gain 8lbs of muscle with our product in 6 weeks '' but not telling you that you will need to actually buy a ''3 month'' supply to run over those 6 weeks to gain the 8lbs.

I wont single IBE out for doing this cause alot of companies do it.

need2guard....every finaflex product....recycle by purus...and the list goes on.
 
soontobbeast said:
here's deal:

while i agree that people should research proper dosing, i think companies should be ethical enough to comply with what they are implicitly offering ( that is, they are selling you a 1 month supply at an effective dose).

people believe they are getting a 1 month supply of a/the effective dose. they have 60 pills, and the company sells take two a day. fine.
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I'm pretty sure if everyone followed the recommended doses on PH/DS there would be way less steroid induced problems.

The companies got it right, we are the ones who think we need to dose more and more.

soontobbeast said:
its like primordial saying '' gain 8lbs of muscle with our product in 6 weeks '' but not telling you that you will need to actually buy a ''3 month'' supply to run over those 6 weeks to gain the 8lbs.
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They said 3-4 weeks. You're putting words in their mouth. And I'm pretty damn sure 3-4 weeks is only one box of Andromass.

PrimordialPerf; said:
... And then after 3-4 weeks –
8-12lb bodyweight increase
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soontobbeast said:
I wont single IBE out for doing this cause alot of companies do it.
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Everything IBE has put out has been dosed fine.

soontobbeast said:
need2guard
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Every time I explain the design of N2GUARD for you you disappear. Remember there is Bioperine in there and your getting 5 ingredients towards one side effect instead of 1 mega dosed ingredient left in excess.

soontobbeast said:
recycle by purus...
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Also got a sh*t ton of Bioperine in there and the doses look good to me.

soontobbeast said:
and the list goes on.
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chocolatemilk said:
I'm pretty sure if everyone followed the recommended doses on PH/DS there would be way less steroid induced problems.

The companies got it right, we are the ones who think we need to dose more and more.



They said 3-4 weeks. You're putting words in their mouth. And I'm pretty damn sure 3-4 weeks is only one box of Andromass.





Everything IBE has put out has been dosed fine.



Every time I explain the design of N2GUARD for you you disappear. Remember there is Bioperine in there and your getting 5 ingredients towards one side effect instead of 1 mega dosed ingredient left in excess.



Also got a sh*t ton of Bioperine in there and the doses look good to me.



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what the **** are you talking about? No one is trolling. I responded to a thread that has 5 pages.

You are way off man. I guess thats the problem with text talking - meanings and tones get misinterpreted. I didn't mean that PP was selling underdosed products. It was with respect to what jbry was saying about how alot of products need to be dosed higher/double than what the company require to be effective.

I bought one of PPs andro products.



Ill get creative with the pics when i get back home.
 
chocolatemilk said:
Every time I explain the design of N2GUARD for you you disappear. Remember there is Bioperine in there and your getting 5 ingredients towards one side effect instead of 1 mega dosed ingredient left in excess.



Also got a sh*t ton of Bioperine in there and the doses look good to me.



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Since this was bumped again, i guess its a sign i should respond to it.

you notice i disappear when you try to explain n2guard.

maybe it is because the *explanation* is so absurd and based on nothing, i feel that, that itself speaks more about it than i need to ( no pun intended). since you are wanting me to respond, i will .

You act as if bioperine enhances the absorption of everything . you can underdose everything, and throw some pepper extract in there, and it makes it supercharged. this is the case with tumeric at least. i read bioperine increases tumeric's absorption by 1000% in at least one study! good for tumeric! oh damn i forgot the study i read , they were given 20mg/kg! and there is 5mg in n2guard.....soooooo

show me some sort of data that bioperine enhances the absorption of half of these items, and to what degree it helps absorption.

taurine 100mg
hawthorn extract 75mg
glutathione 100mg ( useless orally btw)
coq10 100MCG ( not mg )
apple pectin 250mg
policosinol 5mg
Acetyl l carnitine 350mg
red yeast rice
NAC

n2guard also has an impressive vitamin/mineral profile.


I mean, obviously, yall know how much the piperine helps absorption, because you forumulated this perfect product with optimal dosing as to not accidentally overdose any ingredient.


if you can show me data showing that bioperine increases the absorption of said items, and to what degree, i will gladly stfu.
 
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