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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
First of all that "80% converstion to estrogen" is a complete crock of ****
very little DHEA will convert to estrogens. it has to FIRST convert to either adione or testosterone to convert to estrogens, and we know that very little DHEA will convert to either of these. And that which does, will only have a very small fraction of these metabolites convert to estrogens anyway
we DO know though that alot of DHEA will conver to 5-AD, and 5-AD has some considerable estrogenic properties. THIS is where the estrogenic effects from DHEA are coming from
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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
the classical estrogens formed from DHEA intake (which would arise from conversion of either ADIONE or testosterone via aromatase) really are not a significant issue
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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
I would try 6-OXO 600mg day (orally preferably) with 7-keto 300mg or more a day
might make a nice stack
throw in some DHEA at 600 to 1200 mg a day and you may be sittin pretty
of course you do know that giant sells DHEA caps in 200mg doses for pretty cheap!!
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Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
i also am taking about 3 grams of DHEA along with it [7-keto]
i am not experiencing gyno symptoms either
Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
First of all that "80% converstion to estrogen" is a complete crock of ****
very little DHEA will convert to estrogens. it has to FIRST convert to either adione or testosterone to convert to estrogens, and we know that very little DHEA will convert to either of these. And that which does, will only have a very small fraction of these metabolites convert to estrogens anyway
we DO know though that alot of DHEA will conver to 5-AD, and 5-AD has some considerable estrogenic properties. THIS is where the estrogenic effects from DHEA are coming from
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
the classical estrogens formed from DHEA intake (which would arise from conversion of either ADIONE or testosterone via aromatase) really are not a significant issue
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
I would try 6-OXO 600mg day (orally preferably) with 7-keto 300mg or more a day
might make a nice stack
throw in some DHEA at 600 to 1200 mg a day and you may be sittin pretty
of course you do know that giant sells DHEA caps in 200mg doses for pretty cheap!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
i also am taking about 3 grams of DHEA along with it [7-keto]
i am not experiencing gyno symptoms either