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Tell Us What You Would Like to see From SNS, CEL, Muscle Addiction, & XPG (2024 Edition)

sns8778 said:
The formula is finalized, labels done, etc.

There's just been quite a few things in front of it in the new product lineup.

I'm actually glad we waited bc I honestly like the formula much better in the version it turned out to be. It evolved some from the original idea :)
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Me and the wife can’t wait!
 
sns8778 said:
Xtreme Performance Gels:

Xtreme Performance Gels:
  • L-Carnitine Gel
  • 7-OXO DHEA Gel
  • Pregnenolone Gel
  • LipoDerm Xtreme (updated version of Avant Labs LipoDerm Ultra)
  • Napalm Xtreme (updated version of Avant Labs Napalm)
There will likely be more depending on ideas and demand, these are just the ones that are in the works now.
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When will the Avant clones be ready?
 
ActionFigure3 said:
Can we order some of this now? I don’t need the great labels or anything. I’ll buy some of the samples bottles just to give this a go without having to wait until it comes down the pipeline.
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AknowledgeMe said:
Same
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If it was something I had here, like that we had already received in stock and just waiting to release, I'd be glad to.

But we don't have product without labels or anything like that - any company that has the ability to do that, its actually telling you that the products aren't made in a cGMP facility or that they're literally making them themselves.

All of our products are manufactured in cGMP contract manufacturing facilities and meet or exceed all guidelines for quality testing, which includes finished sealed bottles being sent out for testing.

So we never receive unlabeled bottles unless its like a label machine error where we might get a thousand units of something and a couple units are accidentally not labeled or something like that. In those cases, they're still easy to identify what they are based on the lot #'s and in those rare cases, I'll usually sell them super cheap or give them to someone I know that's been wanting to try them or something like that.

The products that we have in right now that we haven't launched yet and will be launching soon are the new Thermagize XT, Mood Support XT, and Sleep Support XT.
 
GreenMachineX said:
When will the Avant clones be ready?
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Thanks for asking.

You used the word clone, which is fine; but I wanted to make sure that you or anyone else reading knew that this isn't what would normally be considered a clone.

These aren't just copies (clones) of Avant Labs products - these are updated versions of Avant Labs products and the formulas for them have been designed by the owner of Avant and myself, and they use the Avant Labs carriers. So these are really new updated versions of the Avant products.

You may have already known that, but some may not have, so I wanted to clarify.

Fl7 has already been released.

FL7 7-OXO Gel by XPG - 7-OXO/7-Keto Gel - Available Now! - AnabolicMinds.com

FL7 7-OXO DHEA Gel 50 mg. Per ML/100 Ml. Per Bottle https://www.dpsnutrition.net/i/34093/xpg-xtreme-gels-fl7-7-oxo-gel-100-ml.htm 50 Mg. Per Ml. 100 ml Per Bottle 100 Servings 7-OXO DHEA, also known as 7-Keto DHEA, is a metabolite of DHEA that is commonly used as a fat loss agent and to...
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Lipoderm Xtreme and Napalm Xtreme will be released in the next few weeks.
 
sns8778 said:
Thanks for asking.

You used the word clone, which is fine; but I wanted to make sure that you or anyone else reading knew that this isn't what would normally be considered a clone.

These aren't just copies (clones) of Avant Labs products - these are updated versions of Avant Labs products and the formulas for them have been designed by the owner of Avant and myself, and they use the Avant Labs carriers. So these are really new updated versions of the Avant products.

You may have already known that, but some may not have, so I wanted to clarify.

Fl7 has already been released.

FL7 7-OXO Gel by XPG - 7-OXO/7-Keto Gel - Available Now! - AnabolicMinds.com

FL7 7-OXO DHEA Gel 50 mg. Per ML/100 Ml. Per Bottle https://www.dpsnutrition.net/i/34093/xpg-xtreme-gels-fl7-7-oxo-gel-100-ml.htm 50 Mg. Per Ml. 100 ml Per Bottle 100 Servings 7-OXO DHEA, also known as 7-Keto DHEA, is a metabolite of DHEA that is commonly used as a fat loss agent and to...
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Lipoderm Xtreme and Napalm Xtreme will be released in the next few weeks.
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Wait…is Caleb still alive?
 
GreenMachineX said:
Wait…is Caleb still alive?
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I'm glad that I did clarify what I did in reply to your post since you didn't know.

Caleb is involved with Xtreme Performance Gels.

Caleb is the Chief Scientific Advisor for Xtreme Performance Gels and all XPG products use the Avant Labs carriers.

That's what I meant about it not being a clone - they're updated 2024 versions of his products, his carriers, etc. from the man himself with a little input from me.
 
I wanted to let everyone know that tomorrow we will be announcing a major sale.

Our Spring into Summer Sale will offer 20% off on all multi-packs and stacks, and there will be a lot free product add-ons with stacks and also some special offers.
 
sns8778 said:
I wanted to let everyone know that tomorrow we will be announcing a major sale.

Our Spring into Summer Sale will offer 20% off on all multi-packs and stacks, and there will be a lot free product add-ons with stacks and also some special offers.
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Oh I can’t wait for this!
 
sns8778 said:
I wanted to let everyone know that tomorrow we will be announcing a major sale.

Our Spring into Summer Sale will offer 20% off on all multi-packs and stacks, and there will be a lot free product add-ons with stacks and also some special offers.
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AE + AXT + Pepti + Xgels + Prime 🤤
 
Johnanthab178 said:
AE + AXT + Pepti + Xgels + Prime 🤤
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That is going to be my nest stack except I'll be doing Phosphatidic Acid XT instead of X-Gels, but that's because I can't take X-Gels because of my autoimmune condition. Great product, just not for those of us with autoimmune conditions.

Is that what you plan to run?
 
sns8778 said:
I wanted to let everyone know that tomorrow we will be announcing a major sale.

Our Spring into Summer Sale will offer 20% off on all multi-packs and stacks, and there will be a lot free product add-ons with stacks and also some special offers.
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Will this sale run through July 4th? Will any new products be available?
 
sns8778 said:
That is going to be my nest stack except I'll be doing Phosphatidic Acid XT instead of X-Gels, but that's because I can't take X-Gels because of my autoimmune condition. Great product, just not for those of us with autoimmune conditions.

Is that what you plan to run?
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yeah I'm liking it so far! This is actually my second time ever running X-Gels (I've heard some people cycle it due to it's inflammatory properties?} But overall and To be honest with you man, anything really that keeps me motivated and consistent with gym/diet is enough for me :)
 
Johnanthab178 said:
yeah I'm liking it so far! This is actually my second time ever running X-Gels (I've heard some people cycle it due to it's inflammatory properties?} But overall and To be honest with you man, anything really that keeps me motivated and consistent with gym/diet is enough for me :)
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That's a big thing I love about Anabolic XT is that it helps my motivation to train, which then helps me be more consistent.

Most people that run X-Gels at high dosages do cycle it - if running it at 1,500 mg. per day, then most people used to not go more than 8 weeks, but we do see people go 12 to 16 weeks on it sometimes now. Then there are people that use it long term but normally use lower dosing.
 
determination said:
Will this sale run through July 4th? Will any new products be available?
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First, my apologies to everyone. Some know that I'm going through a family situation and its no excuse, just conveying the reason that I didn't get the sale posted today. It will be posted tomorrow.

The sale is scheduled to run thru July 1st as of now. There will be a July 4th Sale, but many of the specials may be different.

Yes, there will be new products launched during this sale.

We currently have 3 new SNS products that we haven't released. The first one was supposed to have launched this week, but I hadn't had the time to do it. It will launch next week and there will be a product per week over the coming weeks.

In addition, Lipoderm Xtreme and Napalm Xtreme will be launched in the coming weeks.
 
sns8778 said:
First, my apologies to everyone. Some know that I'm going through a family situation and its no excuse, just conveying the reason that I didn't get the sale posted today. It will be posted tomorrow.

The sale is scheduled to run thru July 1st as of now. There will be a July 4th Sale, but many of the specials may be different.

Yes, there will be new products launched during this sale.

We currently have 3 new SNS products that we haven't released. The first one was supposed to have launched this week, but I hadn't had the time to do it. It will launch next week and there will be a product per week over the coming weeks.

In addition, Lipoderm Xtreme and Napalm Xtreme will be launched in the coming weeks.
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Sorry to hear this. Best to you and your family
 
Spring into Summer Sale thread:

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I finally got the Spring into Summer Sale thread updated with a lot of free product offers.
 
The New Thermagize XT Launch Thread:

Fat Loss, Energy, Focus, & Appetite Control

The New SNS Thermagize XT - Fat Loss, Energy, Focus, & Appetite Control

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I wanted to let everyone know that we have Lean Edge back in stock - just in time that can still get it as part of the July 4th sale.

We have a lot of discounted multi-pack and stack options that include Lean Edge.

Lean Edge and discounted multi-packs:
Lean Edge and discounted stacks:
 
Sorry if this isn't the best place but I couldn't find a separate thread for KannaEase. I'm looking for feedback from anyone that has tried higher doses of 100 mg+ (at one time, not 50 mg spread throughout the day). I'm still really enjoying this product at 50 mg twice each day but wonder if things could be better if I went a little higher. I did read on the selfdecode website that south african psychiatrics prescribe kanna for major depression and anxiety and that the patients receive between 100 – 200mg per day (half with breakfast and half with lunch). However, the links they provide as references don't mention that dosing schedule (with one link not working). So, I don't know how accurate it is...
 
jarrellt67 said:
Sorry if this isn't the best place but I couldn't find a separate thread for KannaEase. I'm looking for feedback from anyone that has tried higher doses of 100 mg+ (at one time, not 50 mg spread throughout the day). I'm still really enjoying this product at 50 mg twice each day but wonder if things could be better if I went a little higher. I did read on the selfdecode website that south african psychiatrics prescribe kanna for major depression and anxiety and that the patients receive between 100 – 200mg per day (half with breakfast and half with lunch). However, the links they provide as references don't mention that dosing schedule (with one link not working). So, I don't know how accurate it is...
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No problem mentioning it in this thread. I kind of think of this thread as a Q&A and discussion type thread for a variety of things anyway.

Here is a link for the KannaEase thread. It hasn't been posted in in a long time, but please feel free to add feedback if you don't mind. A lot of people overlook this ingredient.

SNS KannaEase Caps - Intro Thread - AnabolicMinds.com

Stress & Anxiety Management - Positive Mood - Relaxation & Calmness Focus & Concentration - Improved Sense of Well-Being High Potency Specialized Kanna Extract Ultra-Potent 50 mg. per capsule KannaEase™ is a high potency specialized Sceletium Tortuosum (Kanna) extract that...
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We've heard feedback from some people that take 1 capsule 3x per day for depression, OCD, and anxiety issues.
Some of them do use a 4th capsule per day if needed.

I've known of some people to take 4 caps per day - 2 caps twice per day and really liked it. I have not tried that myself.
 
Have you considered, or looked into, releasing a product with Dihydrohonokiol-B (DHH-B)? From the admittedly little research I've done, it seems like it might be a good product for stress or anxiety.
 
jarrellt67 said:
Have you considered, or looked into, releasing a product with Dihydrohonokiol-B (DHH-B)? From the admittedly little research I've done, it seems like it might be a good product for stress or anxiety.
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I thought about it, but when I looked more into it I found some things that make me a little uncomfortable about it. I may would offer it as a single ingredient if we had a lot of demand for it, but I wouldn't include it in a formula.

Thank you for the suggestion though - definitely open to ideas.
 
We are in process of finalizing the new products that we plan to offer over the next 12 to 18 months. We have a lot of things happening and a lot of it takes some very detailed planning. We of course may can still slip in new things here and there, but we have a ton of things we are working on finalizing and scheduling.

If anyone has anything they would really like to see us offer, now's the time to let me know.

I always like to try my best to provide the things that people want, and now would be a good time to mention them.
 
Madevilz said:
Two different ingredients, but have you looked into Peptipump from the folks who made Peptistrong, and Tesnor?
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Thank you for the suggestion.

PeptiPump is exclusive to Nutrabolt (Cellucor) for sports nutrition for right now, which most companies think was a terrible idea for Nuritas to have done bc it pissed off a lot of the brands that work with them on PeptiStrong.

They had originally said that the ingredient wasn't even ready to be used yet bc the studies weren't complete, and the studies aren't even on anything that relates directly to pumps. I think that it is an example of a big company like Cellucor offering to spend a massive amount for an exclusivity period for an ingredient and it was based around marketing, not efficacy.

I can't say if we ever would or wouldn't use it - it really depends on the feedback and how the studies turn out. I haven't heard anyone say that C4 is any better since adding it than before adding it, so just have to wait and see.

Tesnor - I looked into that and spoke with them about it. The thing is that honestly its very expensive and we already use a lot of ingredients that have more studies, better study data, and are less expensive. I'd be glad to offer it is there was enough demand, but it would be one that we would just offer it for people interested - its not one that I could honestly tell you I think would be better than quite a few of the other options we already offer.

I appreciate the suggestions. If you have anymore, please let me know.
 
I still think Glutamine would be a great addition, if you can offer it competitively priced of course.
 
BigGame84 said:
This has been discussed but maybe not in a while... A product containing GG-Gold?
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GG-Gold is one that we've thought about offering, but it would likely be standalone.

The higher concentration is a liquid, so softgels would make for a more potent product.
There is a powder form, but the % active is much less.

This one it really just depends on if we had enough demand for it. We've been asked a couple times recently since they increased their marketing on it, but before then had never been asked for it outside of it being mentioned in one of these threads.
 
Hyde said:
I still think Glutamine would be a great addition, if you can offer it competitively priced of course.
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I agree and that is definitely one I want to do. Actually, I want to do one where it would be 5 grams Glutamine/25 mg. AstraGin.
 
Hyde said:
What happens if I take 150mg of AstraGin at once?
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Your gut will love you.

That's exactly my thought - AstraGin has studies on 100 mg.+ for gut health with more studies ongoing.

A lot of people using Glutamine for gut health are using 20 to 30 grams - so that would be 100 mg. to 150 mg. AstraGin.

So in addition to it helping with the absorption, it would also be complementing the gut health aspects :)
 
sns8778 said:
Your gut will love you.

That's exactly my thought - AstraGin has studies on 100 mg.+ for gut health with more studies ongoing.

A lot of people using Glutamine for gut health are using 20 to 30 grams - so that would be 100 mg. to 150 mg. AstraGin.

So in addition to it helping with the absorption, it would also be complementing the gut health aspects :)
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That’s exactly why I use it so it sounds like a win!
 
sns8778 said:
Your gut will love you.

That's exactly my thought - AstraGin has studies on 100 mg.+ for gut health with more studies ongoing.

A lot of people using Glutamine for gut health are using 20 to 30 grams - so that would be 100 mg. to 150 mg. AstraGin.

So in addition to it helping with the absorption, it would also be complementing the gut health aspects :)
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id like to advocate a glutamine that attempts to get around the absorption issue. there's a company that makes trans-alanyl glutamine that i felt missed the mark by adding protease; if the peptide form is said to get around the issue where the glutamine gets used up by the gut, then why make it turn to regular glutamine faster. since alanine can convert to glutamine, i wonder if TAG had improved blood glutamine levels purely through the alanine content. im interested in an l-alanine hcl supplement if it would have better solubility. i wonder if glutamine ethyl ester got around the gut issue? anybody remember back when it was possible to buy that online?
 
thescience said:
id like to advocate a glutamine that attempts to get around the absorption issue. there's a company that makes trans-alanyl glutamine that i felt missed the mark by adding protease; if the peptide form is said to get around the issue where the glutamine gets used up by the gut, then why make it turn to regular glutamine faster. since alanine can convert to glutamine, i wonder if TAG had improved blood glutamine levels purely through the alanine content. im interested in an l-alanine hcl supplement if it would have better solubility. i wonder if glutamine ethyl ester got around the gut issue? anybody remember back when it was possible to buy that online?
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I appreciate the suggestion.

There have been companies and bands try to fancy things up with glutamine for a long time and none of the things ever really worked any better, and usually were a lot more expensive, than just upping the dose of regular glutamine.

Glutamine Ethyl Ester was much more expensive and didn't seem to work for anyone that I know of at all. I could still get the raws, but its not something I could sell bc I don't think there's anything to it.

Glutamine Peptides are most of the time derived from wheat, so they have gluten in them - and there's a major problem with certain brands not identifying the allergen information on them. They also seem to bloat a lot of people, even people that aren't wheat/gluten sensitive.

AstraGin has been shown to help the absorption of various amino acids, which is one of the reasons we plan to include it in our glutamine product. The other reason being that high dose glutamine and high dose AstraGin both help with gut health, so its a win-win combination.
 
determination said:
Any eta on the new releases? I am running low on Mood Support xt. I am really enjoying it.
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Sleep Support XT we plan to launch this week.

Mood Support XT we plan to likely launch next week.

I'm really glad to hear that you're enjoying Mood Support XT.

Pm me and I'll be glad to let you buy another bottle or however many you'd like.
 
sns8778 said:
I appreciate the suggestion.

There have been companies and bands try to fancy things up with glutamine for a long time and none of the things ever really worked any better, and usually were a lot more expensive, than just upping the dose of regular glutamine.

Glutamine Ethyl Ester was much more expensive and didn't seem to work for anyone that I know of at all. I could still get the raws, but its not something I could sell bc I don't think there's anything to it.

Glutamine Peptides are most of the time derived from wheat, so they have gluten in them - and there's a major problem with certain brands not identifying the allergen information on them. They also seem to bloat a lot of people, even people that aren't wheat/gluten sensitive.

AstraGin has been shown to help the absorption of various amino acids, which is one of the reasons we plan to include it in our glutamine product. The other reason being that high dose glutamine and high dose AstraGin both help with gut health, so its a win-win combination.
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agreed on glutamine ethyl ester. tag and sustamine however have lots of good reviews
 
thescience said:
agreed on glutamine ethyl ester. tag and sustamine however have lots of good reviews
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I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused.

Are you talking about the product named TAG by Metabolic Nutrition?

If so, that is a proprietary blend of Trans-Alanyl Glutamine and L-Alanyl L-Glutamine (Sustamine), likely so that it doesn't have to identify the dose of Sustamine bc Sustamine is very expensive.

You can find plenty of studies on L-Alanyl Glutamine (Sustamine), but I cannot find any of Trans-Alanyl Glutamine.

Sustamine, L-Alanyl L-Glutamine, is one of Kyowa's ingredients. I have a great relationship with Kyowa and we will be using 2 of their ingredients in upcoming products. Sustamine is a good ingredient but is very expensive, and they don't even promote it themselves to be used for most of the things that regular glutamine is used for. They promote it more for rehydration and intra workout benefits with their aminos than for post workout recovery and gut health.

If enough people wanted a Sustamine supplement, I would be glad to offer one, but we've never had a demand for it.
 
sns8778 said:
I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused.

Are you talking about the product named TAG by Metabolic Nutrition?

If so, that is a proprietary blend of Trans-Alanyl Glutamine and L-Alanyl L-Glutamine (Sustamine), likely so that it doesn't have to identify the dose of Sustamine bc Sustamine is very expensive.

You can find plenty of studies on L-Alanyl Glutamine (Sustamine), but I cannot find any of Trans-Alanyl Glutamine.

Sustamine, L-Alanyl L-Glutamine, is one of Kyowa's ingredients. I have a great relationship with Kyowa and we will be using 2 of their ingredients in upcoming products. Sustamine is a good ingredient but is very expensive, and they don't even promote it themselves to be used for most of the things that regular glutamine is used for. They promote it more for rehydration and intra workout benefits with their aminos than for post workout recovery and gut health.

If enough people wanted a Sustamine supplement, I would be glad to offer one, but we've never had a demand for it.
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yes on tag. I forgot it had some sustamine added. i threw both products out there. they both have good reviews. sustamine is really expensive. I ordered two kilos of l-alanyl-l glutamine from china once
and customs held it and told me i had to go to them to get it, which i didnt. I was worried they sent me something else by mistake and i was in trouble. I wish i could advocate for a glutamine from the heart, but im involved in alot of experiments with that right now and i havent come to any decisions
 
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thescience said:
yes on tag. i threw them both out there. they both have good reviews. sustamine is really expensive
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I am not able to find any information supporting Trans-Alanyl Glutamine. I'm not saying there's not any, but if there is, I can't find any of it.

My impression, and I could be wrong, is that Metabolic is using that ingredient in a proprietary blend with Sustamine in order to keep the amount of Sustamine down in the blend and keep the cost down by doing that.

If enough people wanted a Sustamine, I'd be glad to offer one. But that wouldn't have any impact on the plans to do the Glutamine + AstraGin as I think that will be an excellent product.
 
sns8778 said:
First, my apologies to everyone. Some know that I'm going through a family situation and its no excuse, just conveying the reason that I didn't get the sale posted today. It will be posted tomorrow.

The sale is scheduled to run thru July 1st as of now. There will be a July 4th Sale, but many of the specials may be different.

Yes, there will be new products launched during this sale.

We currently have 3 new SNS products that we haven't released. The first one was supposed to have launched this week, but I hadn't had the time to do it. It will launch next week and there will be a product per week over the coming weeks.

In addition, Lipoderm Xtreme and Napalm Xtreme will be launched in the coming weeks.
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How are the releases of lipoderm/napalm looking now?
REALLY looking forward to running them
 
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