sorry to ask this here, but does inhibit-E contain anything that suppresses cortisol?
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Same to you Steve.I hope that everyone has a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Thank you Steve. I hope you can take some well deserved time off and spend it with your loved ones. Regards, BeauI hope that everyone has a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
I always thought choline was a liver cleanser
I hope that everyone has a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Merry Christmas, Steve!I hope that everyone has a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays - All the continued best wishes to you and your family on the journey, Steve.I hope that everyone has a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Hey Steve, I noticed USPS was removed as a carrier for Canadian shipping, probably because Canada Post was on strike. Now that they are back to work, when can we expect to see USPS back? I never use UPS because they charge crazy taxes and fees.
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I’d be interested as well, because I love nitrates lol. I do remember vaguely remembering Steve said something about patents and nitrates, I think he may have been speaking about N03-t nitrates though. I love arugula and eat at least 2 servings a day, kinda gross and a hassle sometimes so a supplement would help.im using an arugula powder that allegedly contains 10% nitrates. i take 12g/day. sketchy company, but the product is delivering. Id like SNS to offer something like this so id know how many nitrates are actually in it.
Ron Kramer, the owner of ThermoLife and a well established prolific patent troll, holds a patent on nitrates bound to any amino acid/creatine. He's an epic sack of ****.I’d be interested as well, because I love nitrates lol. I do remember vaguely remembering Steve said something about patents and nitrates, I think he may have been speaking about N03-t nitrates though. I love arugula and eat at least 2 servings a day, kinda gross and a hassle sometimes so a supplement would help.
So he’s the reason it’s hard to find stand alone nitrates!? I’m already not a fan lolThe owner of ThermoLife, a well established patent troll, holds a patent on nitrates bound to any amino acid/creatine. He's an epic sack of ****.
Back in my iForce days, thats why we started selling potassium nitrate pills haha.
So he’s the reason it’s hard to find stand alone nitrates!? I’m already not a fan lol
Just looked up thermolifes webpage and saw all the patents. I didn’t realize they were behind N03-t until you told me. As the new kids say… That dude does not pass the vibe check lol.Basically. And IIRC his patent extends to: if you had a pre-wo product that has any sort of amino acid/creatine/ect in it, you can't just add potassium nitrate to the formula to get around sourcing from him. It became a whole ordeal when we wanted to upgrade Hemavol to include some sort of nitrates, and he made it impossible. So we said okay, we'll just sell super cheap potassium nitrate pills and sell stacks loll
EDIT: and when I say prolific patent troll, again IIRC at one point he had filed like the ~3rd most patent lawsuits in the entire country. He basically let his company ThermoLife 'die' as he spent all his time in court.
yeah but anyone can sell an arugala powder standardized for nitrates. i add it to my protein, it really doesnt add flavor, and i also feel like im getting some vegetable consumption in.
the flavor is ok. i dont know how much nitrate is actually in this stuff im taking, but a gram is a tiny scoop; 4 scoops 3x/day they claim is 1200mg nitrates. regardless, it works better than most pump products i try nowadays and the 1000g tub lasts eonsYea, from a 'natural source' you can... but the problem with most of those is you need a huge dose to get a decent % of nitrates. So it's either a lot of caps/pills or a lot of powder that likely tastes pretty shitty to try and cover up in a drink.
Potassium nitrate offering from sns I think would sell well. It’s getting harder to find then it used to be.Ron Kramer, the owner of ThermoLife and a well established prolific patent troll, holds a patent on nitrates bound to any amino acid/creatine. He's an epic sack of ****.
Back in my iForce days, thats why we started selling potassium nitrate pills haha.
Potassium is a mineral and not amino acid, so does that mean sodium nitrate is fair game too?Potassium nitrate offering from sns I think would sell well. It’s getting harder to find then it used to be.
Would purchase!Potassium nitrate offering from sns I think would sell well. It’s getting harder to find then it used to be.
I had seen the research on it and haven't been able to find any on specifically what they used - like if they used it from Fenugreek or from coffee or a synthetic. I'm pretty sure they would have used a synthetic - which may not necessarily be legal or compliant to use in a supplement.
I sent out a couple emails to scientists at some companies I work with and asked their opinions on this in the supply chain.
I had been looking at it as an idea for something, but questioned if it would be commercially viable.
the standardized spiniach powders ive seen are really expensiveOr, I'd be curious to hear Steve's thoughts on something like SuperSpinach when it comes to a nitrate product...![]()
How much of that arugula product u taking? I know which supplement you're talking about.. seems like a sketchy brand..the standardized spiniach powders ive seen are really expensive
4g/3 times a dayHow much of that arugula product u taking? I know which supplement you're talking about.. seems like a sketchy brand..
Cool.. how did you end up at that dosage? Didn't notice it at a lower dosage?4g/3 times a day
im hovering there for pretty much no reason, but ive seen some nitrate products ranging around 1500mg. zero tolerability issues with the 12g dose, so i may go higher.Cool.. how did you end up at that dosage? Didn't notice it at a lower dosage?
im using an arugula powder that allegedly contains 10% nitrates. i take 12g/day. sketchy company, but the product is delivering. Id like SNS to offer something like this so id know how many nitrates are actually in it.
Basically. And IIRC his patent extends to: if you had a pre-wo product that has any sort of amino acid/creatine/ect in it, you can't just add potassium nitrate to the formula to get around sourcing from him. It became a whole ordeal when we wanted to upgrade Hemavol to include some sort of nitrates, and he made it impossible. So we said okay, we'll just sell super cheap potassium nitrate pills and sell stacks loll
Steve would know better than me these days, but I'm pretty sure the only way to sell nitrates that don't involve Kramer is: potassium nitrate, or nitrates that come from a food source like beets.
Or, I'd be curious to hear Steve's thoughts on something like SuperSpinach when it comes to a nitrate product...![]()
the standardized spiniach powders ive seen are really expensive
4g/3 times a day
im hovering there for pretty much no reason, but ive seen some nitrate products ranging around 1500mg. zero tolerability issues with the 12g dose, so i may go higher.
i did notice the bicep/forearm veins significantly visible and bigger at a lesser dose. im pushing the envelope to regain pumps like i could induce in my 20's and this hasnt gotten me there yet, but its gotten me closer than anything else
11-Hydroxy-yohimbine
Theoried to be what PES used for their SA-2 extract. I've seen maybe one company using it, but I don't trust some most likely unknown fly by night.Hadn't seen that name in a long time.
Theoried to be what PES used for their SA-2 extract. I've seen maybe one company using it, but I don't trust some most likely unknown fly by night.
Are suppliers even offering this, or would it have to be customly synthesized?
Would any of the nutraceutical companies you work with be interested in delivering a cutting-edge yohimbine product? I still think there’s a lot more to be explored in that plant and I feel the market hasn’t expanded much (or even shrank) over the last 10 years.I had researched this once before and found what the answer was to the best of my knowledge; I cannot find it in search right now though.
If I remember correctly, there was some uncertainty to what it actually was. Not meaning that they intentionally did anything as something else, I mean like from the supply side.
I'll see if I can find info but it basically amounted to no for sure answer and some theorizing that it was the Higenamine in some of the products giving the effects - which is now illegal.