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[sns8778]

Would any of the nutraceutical companies you work with be interested in delivering a cutting-edge yohimbine product? I still think there’s a lot more to be explored in that plant and I feel the market hasn’t expanded much (or even shrank) over the last 10 years.

I doubt you'll see much, if any exploration into different types of yohimbine.

The reason for that is that most people don't even understand the difference between Alpha Yohimbine and regular Yohimbine - no matter how hard companies tried to explain it. So most just gave up on even trying to explain it and figure it would be the same with any different forms of it.

I don't mean that negatively towards the idea of exploring them - just an honest explanation as to why most companies and ingredient companies wouldn't even bother to try now days.

 

[N2ofusion]

I doubt you'll see much, if any exploration into different types of yohimbine.

The reason for that is that most people don't even understand the difference between Alpha Yohimbine and regular Yohimbine - no matter how hard companies tried to explain it. So most just gave up on even trying to explain it and figure it would be the same with any different forms of it.

I don't mean that negatively towards the idea of exploring them - just an honest explanation as to why most companies and ingredient companies wouldn't even bother to try now days.

Thanks for the context, Steve!

 

[sns8778]

Thanks for the context, Steve!

You're welcome.

The world we live in now days - many people glance at things and that's it.

I miss the world in which people wanted to learn and understand things. I love helping people and I enjoy the ingredients and the science and I used to enjoy writing detailed write ups, but now days, there's very few people that even read them.

 

[Ape McGrapes]

I had researched this once before and found what the answer was to the best of my knowledge; I cannot find it in search right now though.

If I remember correctly, there was some uncertainty to what it actually was. Not meaning that they intentionally did anything as something else, I mean like from the supply side.

I'll see if I can find info but it basically amounted to no for sure answer and some theorizing that it was the Higenamine in some of the products giving the effects - which is now illegal.

I'm not trying to turn this into a "what was PES using" thread. I genuinely was curious about 11-hydroxy-yohimbe, and it's availability.

That said, how hard could it be to find out who was their raw material supplier? I remember they shared atleast one of the same suppliers as USP Labs.

Opinion on Innoslim?

 

[sns8778]

I'm not trying to turn this into a "what was PES using" thread. I genuinely was curious about 11-hydroxy-yohimbe, and it's availability.

That said, how hard could it be to find out who was their raw material supplier? I remember they shared atleast one of the same suppliers as USP Labs.

Opinion on Innoslim?

I know who their main raw material supplier was during that time frame, I've known them for over a decade and have a great relationship with them. When I asked them about that ingredient, they had no idea what I was talking about. So if it was 11-hydroxy-yohimbine, it was from a different supplier.

A lot of people said that real Alpha Yohimbine + Higenamine felt the same as the product that PES had that you're referring to - that was a common thing when Higenamine was legal was people buying Higenamine caps and Alpha Yohimbine caps from us and stacking them.

Innoslim - I have a great relationship with Nuliv and use a lot of their ingredients. We may use it in something at some point; I think its a good secondary and supporting ingredient.

 

[3ChainedAminos]

I wanted to reply to the nitrate discussion before saying this.

I can't go into any details and I can't answer any questions at all on this yet - but I've already said that we have a lot of things coming out this year - for people that really like nitrates, you may be very happy in a few months

Any chance you could give any details? Been patiently waiting since this comment and haven’t seen anything else. So I’m getting eager and felt I need to ask lol.

 

[sns8778]

Any chance you could give any details? Been patiently waiting since this comment and haven’t seen anything else. So I’m getting eager and felt I need to ask lol.

I'm not saying much about anything upcoming at this point - because the tariff situation caused a lot of delays and out of stocks in this industry. Everyone is trying to get caught up as quickly as possible. But keeping existing products in stock has to be a priority over new ones.

We are getting things back in stock quickly, and we are actively working on new and upcoming products, there is just no such thing as a reliable ETA in the industry at the moment - and especially with nitrates bc there are many extra steps involved.