Tell Us What You Would Like to see From SNS, CEL, Muscle Addiction, & XPG (2024 Edition)
- Thread starter sns8778
- Start date
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Here's the full write up - https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/sleep-support-xt/
I'll do a product into with coupon code and multi-pack discounts tonight or tomorrow.
Absolutely awesome product.
baldwanus
Well-known member
Looks awesome. I could live without the KSM-66, I already have a full dose of that in my daily routine, but otherwise it looks like a great combo of ingredients. Nice mix to help fall asleep/stay knocked out all night. Will deff. try it at some point in the future!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Any preference on flavors?
When I did flavor samples on one a long time ago, the flavors I'd went with was Lemon Mint, Strawberry Mint, and Mango.
BigGame84
Well-known member
I think the honey bourbon that Glaxon offers is one of the best tasting supplements I've ever had. I don't drink bourbon, but whatever they did to formulate that flavor is amazing. It's very sweet. It kind of reminds me of apple juice in a way. So maybe something different, like a honey flavor.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I really, really like this combination. The sleep quality is great.
I get KSM-66 myself through my daily supplement regimen, but no issues with adding more. That's one reason that we kept the dosage at 300 mg., the lower side of the dosing range for it was to take into account that some people will get some in other things.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Honey is a good suggestion. Thank you. I'll try to think of some good honey variants that we could try for flavor samples. I wouldn't do honey bourbon just bc some people wouldn't try it bc of anticipating it to taste like bourbon, but definitely open to other honey variants.
I love honey mint flavor myself, but was already thinking a lemon mint and strawberry mint. Maybe change the lemon mint idea to a lemon honey idea.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Sleep Support XT Highlights/Supports:
- Helps you fall asleep & stay asleep
- Relaxation & restful sleep
- Improved sleep quality
- Nighttime rejuvenation
- Positive Mood & Improved Sense of Well-Being
- 5 Branded Ingredients
- Clinically Researched Key Ingredients
Sleep Support XT:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/sleep-support-xt/
Sleep Support XT Intro Thread:
SNS Sleep Support XT - Sleep Better + Wake Up Feeling Refreshed & Rejuvenated!
Relaxation & Restful Sleep Wake Up Feeling Refreshed & Rejuvenated Sleep Support XT is a specialized formula of premium active ingredients designed to help support relaxation & restful sleep in order to help you fall asleep & stay asleep and wake up feeling refreshed &...
anabolicminds.com
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Give us the XPG lipoderm/napalm!!!
Very very soon. It's here. Just trying to finish up some write up info on it.
schizm
Well-known member
Gotcha, gotcha...Is it soon as in already headed to DPS/Flexit?
Or not quite yet...?AknowledgeMe
Member
How about a thyroid supplement? Thyroid XT
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Gotcha, gotcha...Is it soon as in already headed to DPS/Flexit?Or not quite yet...?
Not quite yet. The products are here, as in here, but we're still working on some of the release information. Things on the backend side like choreographing the release with branded ingredient companies and some things with Par - like an FAQ and things like that.
Some of the things we wanted to do I'm not worried about having in the very beginning bc they're super technical like the Avant ones were and people just don't seem to read that much information about things anymore. But at least wanting to get the FAQ done to address the questions about how to take them, take them together, how to use them with the other Avant products like Ab-Solved and FL7, etc.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
We used to have a product named Thyrocaps.
Thyroid supplements are weird in general as to their popularity and sales - they will get popular, then people will get scared of the idea of them, then popular again, etc.
I have thought about eventually doing a product in the Health Series that is based around natural thyroid optimization.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Labels are done. Raw materials are in and testing has been completed. So its in the production lineup, there are just some other things in front of it.
Hopefully looking at 6 to 8 weeks.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thoughts on Bets Glucan fiber? Not sure if it's been mentioned in here before
Never been asked for it before. I've always thought of it as more of a commodity type item.
I'm open to most anything if enough people are interested.
andrewski48
Member
Super excited for every endurance product to be released under each brand. I have increased my running drastically recently and am training for a 50k later this year. Every few years I get on some new kick while keeping the core of my training the same.
CATdiesel76
Well-known member
Maybe more powder versions of existing products? I know a lot of things can be tough to flavor, not water soluble, etc but right now I’m taking 30 pills or something crazy twice a day with all these pill products. These days I almost gag at the thought of all the caps and it gets to be a chore. I could combine multiple fruit flavor products for ones that could be done
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thank you for the suggestion.
I swallow so many capsules per day that I don't even count them anymore. I just dump my pill case into my hand and swallow them by the handful haha.
Some of the Health Series products would be very hard to flavor. When you see products available in powder, a lot of times that's the reason that you don't see certain ingredients.
I'm always open to ideas though.
I had thought about doing a very high end comprehensive product that would be either a ton of capsules or a powder that would be like taking things for many different things all in one - like something that would cover heart, blood pressure, liver, kidneys, and more all in one. The thing is that it wouldn't be possible for it to be as good as taking all the different products separately; like it good be good at the different things as an all in one, but the individual products would be great at everything rather than just good at it. I hope that makes sense.
My idea for that started off as a flavored powder but the base tastes so bad that the first round of samples were so bad that your brain just goes - abort, abort haha
I still may do something like that, but it may would still be a massive amount of capsules per day unless I can figure out a way to flavor it - but I wouldn't want to have to remove the ingredients that would make it great in order to do it.
In general, a lot of flavored powders is our upcoming focus though.
Here's a list of things that we have flavor samples approved of:
- Focus XT - 7 existing flavors + 2 new ones
- Focus XT - Caffeine Free - existing flavor + 1 new one
- Energized Aminos - 3 existing flavors + 2 new ones
- Daily Gains - 3 flavors + 2 more that may release later if it sells well
- An EAA under SNS - 3 unique flavors approved; ironically its Blue Raspberry and Lemon Lime we're trying to get right
- Hydration product - 6 flavors approved
- A new endurance ingredient - 4 flavors approved
- Protein - flavors have been approved and just been waiting for protein prices to stabilize.
In the works:
- SNS pre-workout
- CEL EAA - very unique and loaded product and unlike anything else available
- CEL pre-workout
- CEL Super Swole (new version)
- SNS sleep formula
- CEL anabolic sleep formula
To the consumer, it doesn't look like we've done anything this year with flavored powders. Behind the scenes, there's been so many hours and so much money this year having gone into flavored powder projects.
THEstudent
Member
Hyde
Legend
Thank you for the suggestion.
I swallow so many capsules per day that I don't even count them anymore. I just dump my pill case into my hand and swallow them by the handful haha.
Some of the Health Series products would be very hard to flavor. When you see products available in powder, a lot of times that's the reason that you don't see certain ingredients.
I'm always open to ideas though.
I had thought about doing a very high end comprehensive product that would be either a ton of capsules or a powder that would be like taking things for many different things all in one - like something that would cover heart, blood pressure, liver, kidneys, and more all in one. The thing is that it wouldn't be possible for it to be as good as taking all the different products separately; like it good be good at the different things as an all in one, but the individual products would be great at everything rather than just good at it. I hope that makes sense.
My idea for that started off as a flavored powder but the base tastes so bad that the first round of samples were so bad that your brain just goes - abort, abort haha
I still may do something like that, but it may would still be a massive amount of capsules per day unless I can figure out a way to flavor it - but I wouldn't want to have to remove the ingredients that would make it great in order to do it.
In general, a lot of flavored powders is our upcoming focus though.
Here's a list of things that we have flavor samples approved of:
- Focus XT - 7 existing flavors + 2 new ones
- Focus XT - Caffeine Free - existing flavor + 1 new one
- Energized Aminos - 3 existing flavors + 2 new ones
- Daily Gains - 3 flavors + 2 more that may release later if it sells well
- An EAA under SNS - 3 unique flavors approved; ironically its Blue Raspberry and Lemon Lime we're trying to get right
- Hydration product - 6 flavors approved
- A new endurance ingredient - 4 flavors approved
- Protein - flavors have been approved and just been waiting for protein prices to stabilize.
In the works:
- SNS pre-workout
- CEL EAA - very unique and loaded product and unlike anything else available
- CEL pre-workout
- CEL Super Swole (new version)
- SNS sleep formula
- CEL anabolic sleep formula
To the consumer, it doesn't look like we've done anything this year with flavored powders. Behind the scenes, there's been so many hours and so much money this year having gone into flavored powder projects.
That idea of a “best effort” all-in-one health capsule support supplement is really interesting. It would take a load of pills and have a higher absolute price tag/serving obviously, but the time/effort/potential cost savings compared to taking a slew of separate products is very appealing for obvious reasons.
That’s why I love Kidney Assist XT & Cardiovascular Support XT already - those 2 products alone, without exaggeration, replaced 10 products I routinely took most of the year. Awesome value, both price and time savings.
Also, I want to point out that just product lineup you listed above is enough to represent a fairly complete lineup for any supplement brand: protein, aminos, preWO, hydration, ergogen, etc. And this is just additional new stuff; absolutely wild! The future is exciting.
poison
Board Sponsor
Awesome, can't wait!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
No, not at all.
Libido Boost XT has definitely taken a lot of work and has been through quite a bit of changes since the first draft idea.
I had mentioned at one point, I was really struggling with which way to go as far as finished price point bc my formula at one time was great, but I felt like it may be higher than many may pay regularly for a product of this type; and I don't want to just offer a fun, every once in awhile product, I want this to be a product that people can use regularly to help improve their quality of life.
Another thing that caused some reconsidering and adjusting the formula was that when I originally was doing this, I thought that people were asking for something that actually increases libido (sexual desire) but then I realized from a lot of the comments and questions on it, that a lot of people thought that desire meant performance ability, erection quality, etc. Like comments people would make like - I want to all the time, I just want to be able to .... - the original version was meant to make people want to more.
That idea still carries over into the finished version - it just changed.
Libido Boost XT went from being a product just focused on drive/desire, to being a product that will help with drive and desire, but also help with blood flow and erection quality, and some other fun aspects of sexual health. And not just blood flow in the temporary sense, but in helping with endothelial health, which can help support improved erection quality and help your body not loose as much of the ability as we age.
At that point, one of the waits, which is now over, was waiting for a new branded ingredient to be available and it is now.
We are waiting on final label approval from one of the branded ingredient companies and as soon as we get that, hopefully by middle of the week, the product can move into production phase.
Last edited:
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thank you.
Calling it a 'best effort' product is actually a good way of looking at it. Taking Kidney Assist XT, Cardiovascular Support XT, etc. and stacking them would definitely be better than it would be, but I think this may appeal to that consumer that is only going to take one thing.
And thank you. I agree. I think the upcoming things really finish rounding things out to where there's really not much else I could think of to even offer. And yeah, just the things we have in process to release over the next 8 months is more than the average company has in total products.
It's a huge step for us, one that I'm both excited and nervous about - bc we really have to focus on marketing more and getting more people to know about the brands.
Segansational
Well-known member
Think this is something a lot of us could use. Now I'm excited!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Endurance products are in process; was waiting for a branded ingredient to be available and it is now and PO's been placed.
CEL single ingredient muscle builder - it's here, so I'd say ETA is a couple weeks. Just have to space things out a bit and finish up some write up info on it.
madmuscle24
Member
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I think that it is an interesting ingredient. I'll be able to give you more of an answer after I research it a little more in depth.
My first thought is that I think it will help people with constipation, but I wonder if it will cause loose stool in people that don't have suffer from constipation. Hopefully it won't. I'm going to go through it in more depth later on this week or this weekend hopefully.
Halfnattyman44
Member
Are you still planning a cholesterol support? If not what would you recommend for that for someone with just out of range cholesterol?
BigGame84
Well-known member
Citrus Bergamont might help.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Yes, Cholesterol Support XT is in the production process now and I hope to have it released within the next 6 weeks or so.
NOW Foods Citrus Bergamot or Pantethine would be good things to use in the meantime.
Cholesterol Support XT is a really cool formula that will replace a lot of things that people use separately to help with cholesterol and triglycerides.
Nac
Well-known member
slimsaw00
Well-known member
I’m very excited to see the formulas for Daily Gains and the 2 preWOs when they release, and new flavors for Focus
Ditto that!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I appreciate the suggestion.
I'm pretty sure that that version is considered to be a drug and not a supplement. The last time I had looked into it, there were drug trials ongoing and a lot of controversy about doping in sports related to it.
thescience
Well-known member
i was always interested in Cepharanthine. it is a drug in japan. i i always felt that there was something amazing in that supplement, but had never isolated what had affected me the way it did after having tried most of it's other ingredients. i can get cepharanthine online, but would have to buy like $900 worth just to try it.
Last edited:
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't think that this could legally be sold as a dietary supplement.
One reason that some companies may have used that ingredient in products back during Covid was that there was some claims on it having anti-viral activities against some coronaviruses. However, some of that was being greatly misstated to make it seem like it would help with Covid when there was no evidence of that bc Coronaviruses in general are a large family and just because something may help slightly with one variant doesn't mean its going to help at all with the others.
But as with several ingredients, some companies did jump on the marketing aspect of it and include it in things back then.
Back when I researched this, I never found anything about it that stood out to me as being better for any normal use than anything else. And anything that I did find that it would be preferable for was something really off the wall that a person should be going to a doctor for anyway - like snake bites, parasitic infections, etc.
Always enjoy the suggestions and discussion though.
thescience
Well-known member
it's used to regrow hair in japan. hadnt heard of covid use for it, but the effects on circulation seem like they could help someone out whos stuck in a rut with a flu. kingshield writeup:
Last edited:
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Regarding Cepharanthine,
I'm glad to discuss ingredients with you, but its against the forum rules to discuss other companies products. A lot of the time, they get upset even over discussion of any ingredients they use in anything if they're mentioned at all.
Some scientists rushed to promote it as a "Japanese anti-viral drug" against Covid and that led to some supplement companies jumping on board and trying to promote it that way or imply it that way - when the real world research didn't line up with it helping with it. It did actually seem to be useful against the type of SARS from the 2003 outbreak.
As for the hair part, I had looked into that and never found anything that actually showed it did it in the real world. There was some theoretical discussion, but a lot of what I read attributed it to theoretically maybe increasing IGF1 levels, yet IGF1 in real life doesn't seem to do much for hair growth.
I'm aware of what their write up said, but would encourage anyone that's interested in it to read the studies themselves and look at the context for any potential usefulness.
I had researched this quite a bit years ago and there were some things that I found that were red flags to me:
Cepharanthine is an alkaloid that has been used in Japanese medicine since 1951 primarily to treat radiation-induced leukopenia, alopecia areata, and alopecia pityrodes [3] as well as exudative middle-ear catarrh, and viper bite.
I'm not saying I don't think that it may be helpful for some things, but I think that it became very overhyped and for the wrong reasons during the pandemic and that a lot of the things that it may be useful for, there seem to be other things that are better than it for.
For example, I think there are many better things for inflammation, liver support, and kidney support and that all have a lot more real world research than it does.
I'm not against it or anything, I just couldn't honestly tell anyone that it would be any better than anything else for a desired purpose being discussed, so that would be my hesitation of using it in any products (along with it could be viewed as a misbranded drug rather than a supplement by the FDA).
I'm glad to discuss ingredients with you, but its against the forum rules to discuss other companies products. A lot of the time, they get upset even over discussion of any ingredients they use in anything if they're mentioned at all.
Some scientists rushed to promote it as a "Japanese anti-viral drug" against Covid and that led to some supplement companies jumping on board and trying to promote it that way or imply it that way - when the real world research didn't line up with it helping with it. It did actually seem to be useful against the type of SARS from the 2003 outbreak.
As for the hair part, I had looked into that and never found anything that actually showed it did it in the real world. There was some theoretical discussion, but a lot of what I read attributed it to theoretically maybe increasing IGF1 levels, yet IGF1 in real life doesn't seem to do much for hair growth.
I'm aware of what their write up said, but would encourage anyone that's interested in it to read the studies themselves and look at the context for any potential usefulness.
I had researched this quite a bit years ago and there were some things that I found that were red flags to me:
- The ingredient seems promoted online more than prescribed/used in real life.
- Lack of studies or replication of studies in other parts of the world.
- A lot of the things that it is promoted as being good for - there's a lot more context to it. For example, if you look into some of the studies, some of the things are related to diabetics and wouldn't carry over into others.
Cepharanthine is an alkaloid that has been used in Japanese medicine since 1951 primarily to treat radiation-induced leukopenia, alopecia areata, and alopecia pityrodes [3] as well as exudative middle-ear catarrh, and viper bite.
I'm not saying I don't think that it may be helpful for some things, but I think that it became very overhyped and for the wrong reasons during the pandemic and that a lot of the things that it may be useful for, there seem to be other things that are better than it for.
For example, I think there are many better things for inflammation, liver support, and kidney support and that all have a lot more real world research than it does.
I'm not against it or anything, I just couldn't honestly tell anyone that it would be any better than anything else for a desired purpose being discussed, so that would be my hesitation of using it in any products (along with it could be viewed as a misbranded drug rather than a supplement by the FDA).
Shadowblaze
Active member
A standalone high quality Ecklonia cava extract, hopefully a 100:1 extract. I think this would habe insane stacking and standalone potential.
A standalone euccommia ulmoides 100:1 extract, i would buy your entire stock lmaooo
A tongkat ali with 10% eurycomanone and a high concentration of eurypeptides as well, I have seen peoples free testosterone go up by 80% and add 20lbs to all upper body lifts in just 4 weeks with the nootropics depot 10% eurcyomanone extract, which is why I'm buying theirs over tongkat ali xt.
More products with benzoflavone.
More products with ursolic acid and maslinic acid. I think both of these would be great for muscle building and stacking with other products.
I think the ingredient in letrone by BLR (im not spelling it out lmao) has insane anabolic potential, would love to see sns or cel release a product like that.
A complete follistatin boosting supplement, that includes epicatechin, ginsenosides that boost follistatin, ecklonia cava, sulforaphane and shilajit.
LucasBagoDoce
Member
thescience
Well-known member
my bad. i corrected the post. the product was discontinued some time ago. I think the ingredients history of having doctors prescribe it for alopecia speaks some kind of testimony. i couldnt speak to what kind of a demand the ingredient would have
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I hope to do a couple different carb powders.
The one that was/is a mix of High Anthocyanin Purple Sweet Potato and Oat Flour - we had gotten a sample of that and it is so purple it stains anything it touches - tongue, shaker, anything.
I don't know how much the product that had that before really had of the High Anthocyanidin Purple Sweet Potato as it was a blend and if they ever said, I never knew - but at 15 grams it stains everything it touches and it looks like sludge to drink.
I would really be worried about a returns situation on that.