Classic Kleen - The Road To Competition Fall 2024

[SkRaw85]

Delt veins are fuggin sick! Cant cheat to get those

 

[Hyde]

He thinks I have a really good shot to go pro so that is awesome. He told me that after last check-in and said we really need to make sure we aren't cutting any corners because we have a good shot at this.

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When it finally starts to happen for you, the doubters stop laughing and start believing!

 

[MrKleen73]

Looking awesome mate!!!

Thanks Benny!

Delt veins are fuggin sick! Cant cheat to get those

Yeah that is one way to know when things are getting real. My left side comes in first but now the right side is starting to come in too.

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When it finally starts to happen for you, the doubters stop laughing and start believing!

Good video, I definitely like the message there.

I did cardio this morning but only got in 30 minutes of the 45, still trying to figure out what is the best way for me to get my cardio in. I don't want this eating into my sleep, I already moved my wake up time back. Starting to think the right idea might be to get here in the AM early for my shift to make sure I have time for a long lunch, and take the lunch earlier in the day. Either way, I have to make that 15 minutes up tonight after my lift. No big deal, just got to do the due Baby!

Weight is coming down, I was 207.5 today so things are working considering I was 208.4 Sunday. So happy with the progress this week so far.

 

[jimbuick]

Can’t believe I’m going to know a real professional mankini flexer

 

[dapack]

Starting to look really sliced. This far out you are setting really good.

 

[MrKleen73]

Can’t believe I’m going to know a real professional mankini flexer

LMAO! It is possible!

Starting to look really sliced. This far out you are setting really good.

Thanks Man, I am getting really excited.

Had a woosh overnight, and dropped 3 lbs. Definitely cleaned things up bt man am I flat. I hadn't really noticed how flat I was until I had my refeed meal, and now I am immediately like where did all fullness and huge pumps go... Happy with the look.

6/12/24 Fasted Weight 204.4 10.5 weeks out. - I feel like my body just let go of some water it was holding on to, and my bowels finally cleared out from the mild constipation. Abs are far more pronounced, getting some veins in my obliques, and lower pec area is starting to tighten up more.

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[Dustin07]

Happy with the look.

I should hope so, abs are poppin!

 

[gphagan1]

LMAO! It is possible!
Thanks Man, I am getting really excited.

Had a woosh overnight, and dropped 3 lbs. Definitely cleaned things up bt man am I flat. I hadn't really noticed how flat I was until I had my refeed meal, and now I am immediately like where did all fullness and huge pumps go... Happy with the look.

6/12/24 Fasted Weight 204.4 10.5 weeks out. - I feel like my body just let go of some water it was holding on to, and my bowels finally cleared out from the mild constipation. Abs are far more pronounced, getting some veins in my obliques, and lower pec area is starting to tighten up more.

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Everything is tightening up quickly for you which is great, because it gives you time to fine tune before the show.
I agree with everyone about your poses are looking better and better. That double bicep pose is really popping in that picture, and the earlier side and back poses were really good. Your arms, back, and quads have really added quality size since starting this journey. And dude we really need to nickname you AM Quadzilla, because your legs are huge, especially at that weight.

 

[MrKleen73]

Everything is tightening up quickly for you which is great, because it gives you time to fine tune before the show.
I agree with everyone about your poses are looking better and better. That double bicep pose is really popping in that picture, and the earlier side and back poses were really good. Your arms, back, and quads have really added quality size since starting this journey. And dude we really need to nickname you AM Quadzilla, because your legs are huge, especially at that weight.

Thanks, we are getting so close now just paid my portion for my coaches tickets travel and our Airbnb. Ouch! Still it has me more excited.

Yeah things seem to tighten up a little every day. Once the lower pec stuff really burns off in another 4 or so weeks the change in my physique should be drastic. It is surprising how much better my chest looks when it doesn't taper down under my pecs and has that more squared off bottom. That and my waist will still get much smaller.

Hoping my quads look as big on stage next to guys with really big legs. Then again I have always had a thing for my legs not being big enough in my head. So it is great to hear! When I was like 20 a trainer told me I had a great upper body and good leg shape but my legs were small. I went nuts on them after that to get them to grow but never really got the thought that they were a weak sport out of my head. Body dysmorphia ain't it a bitch!

 

[Hyde]

Thanks, we are getting so close now just paid my portion for my coaches tickets travel and our Airbnb. Ouch! Still it has me more excited.

Yeah things seem to tighten up a little every day. Once the lower pec stuff really burns off in another 4 or so weeks the change in my physique should be drastic. It is surprising how much better my chest looks when it doesn't taper down under my pecs and has that more squared off bottom. That and my waist will still get much smaller.

Hoping my quads look as big on stage next to guys with really big legs. Then again I have always had a thing for my legs not being big enough in my head. So it is great to hear! When I was like 20 a trainer told me I had a great upper body and good leg shape but my legs were small. I went nuts on them after that to get them to grow but never really got the thought that they were a weak sport out of my head. Body dysmorphia ain't it a bitch!

You’ll be sending that trainer a thank you card if you win this show on legs

 

[akboom87]

When MrKleen steps on stage and Points to his legs!

 

[MrKleen73]

You’ll be sending that trainer a thank you card if you win this show on legs

Oh yeah, I run into her every once in a while, like 77 years old still holding it down, and training bodybuilders. Last time I saw her she said let me see those legs, then said Oh you have put some work into them they look good and have great shape. Then she smiled at me and said they could still be a little bigger though. Kind of in a teasing way. LOL

That was about a year and a half, two years ago while I was on the rebuild from my time off and surgery. I think she would approve even more now.

When MrKleen steps on stage and Points to his legs!

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Then hit them with the quad stomp eh?
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[MrKleen73]

6/15/24 - Fasted Weight 202

Dropped 2.4 lbs since Wednesday, seems a bit fast, feeling run down, strength has dipped and recovery is definitely much slower. My quads are still sore, hamstrings a little too. Also woke up this morning with an issue with my back, no pain really just a lack of control of my scapular region on one side. I had some issues with back shots and surprisingly it made it almost impossible to get a decent most muscular one of my shoulders kept raising up any time I tried to pop my lats out. I got extremely frustrated because it took like 15-20 attempts to get a decent MM pose this morning for check ins. I can definitely see where the weight is coming off fat wise, but also I am officially as flat as a pancake too. I can not maintain a pump for much longer then 20-30 minutes during a session then I am totally flat and depleted again. So things are starting to get real. Addition of nolva and clen are surely part of the weight loss. Holding less water, and burning more fat, but still curious what coach will think of the 2.4 lbs in 2 days. I told him I didn't know if that would be a YAY, or a YIKES!

Here are some pics and I will also share a few of the ones where my MM was all messed up so you can see what I mean.

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[MrKleen73]

Here are a few of the problematic MM shots. As you can see I just can't get myself straight on, and in the one that is straight one of my lats doesn't even bother popping out at all. I am going to get some soft tissue work done at my new chiro tomorrow, hopefully she can get me squared away.
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Also, let me know if you all don't want to see pictures as often and would rather see a bigger reveal once or every other week.

 

[Hyde]

I don’t have the experience to back this bro science up at all, but I’ve heard more than once that when you are flat that’s when you can get really lean - you know resources are scarce.

Clen definitely also keeps you flatter; you have to pull that several days before the show to fill out for sure.

 

[MrKleen73]

I don’t have the experience to back this bro science up at all, but I’ve heard more than once that when you are flat that’s when you can get really lean - you know resources are scarce.

Clen definitely also keeps you flatter; you have to pull that several days before the show to fill out for sure.

Yeah, that is definitely the case, when glycogen is low the body has to use more fat for energy. I didn't think about the fact that the clen would have me burning through more glycogen but it makes complete sense more than thinking it cause that much fat loss that quickly.

So last night coach had me do a refeed meal, our official refeed meal is a 5 guys double meat cheeseburger with a regular size fries. I didn't think this was going to be that much but I didn't know they fill a regular drink cup with fries, dump them in the bag then fill the cup again and put the cup in the bag too. It was so many fries I had a hard time eating it. Here is a pic of the order of fries on a full size plate and I had already eaten some of them before I thought to take a picture.

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I woke up at 206.8 and looking full, but still nice and tight.

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Happy Father's Day to all the fathers!

 

[gphagan1]

Yeah, that is definitely the case, when glycogen is low the body has to use more fat for energy. I didn't think about the fact that the clen would have me burning through more glycogen but it makes complete sense more than thinking it cause that much fat loss that quickly.

So last night coach had me do a refeed meal, our official refeed meal is a 5 guys double meat cheeseburger with a regular size fries. I didn't think this was going to be that much but I didn't know they fill a regular drink cup with fries, dump them in the bag then fill the cup again and put the cup in the bag too. It was so many fries I had a hard time eating it. Here is a pic of the order of fries on a full size plate and I had already eaten some of them before I thought to take a picture.

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I woke up at 206.8 and looking full, but still nice and tight.

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Happy Father's Day to all the fathers!

Definitely looking full and tight, and I know that cheeseburger was good on your refeed. I forgot about all the fries 5 Guys give you, but I remember the first time I went to one I just thought the kid was being really cool and just gave me extra.
Happy Father’s Day

 

[MrKleen73]

Definitely looking full and tight, and I know that cheeseburger was good on your refeed. I forgot about all the fries 5 Guys give you, but I remember the first time I went to one I just thought the kid was being really cool and just gave me extra.
Happy Father’s Day

Thanks, yeah I was pretty happy considering I had basically estimated that full of glycogen I would be around 206 from where I was before. So I am happy to see I am still holding on to this much muscle.

I just signed up for and scheduled my first posing session with the posing coach Pat recommended to me. Really looking forward to getting some good tips on how to present my physique better.

After work I am going to go train, do my weights and my cardio in one shot, coach suggested doing this will most likely allow for better recovery. Not separating the training, and getting just a little more sleep. Once I finish I will head home and grab what I need to head to Dallas tonight and then set up a deposition at a site up there. We are opening a new office in Dallas and they do not have the conference rooms set up for stuff like this. I have to go to a place we rented just for the deposition and set it up. then tear it down after and head back home tomorrow night. I will more than likely end up not being able to train legs tomorrow and have to put that off until Wednesday which would normally be a day off of lifting. We will see how things workout once I get up there and settled in.

 

[Dustin07]

Here are some pics and I will also share a few of the ones where my MM was all messed up so you can see what I mean.

You may have wooshed more than you thought you should over that past week but I can definitely see it in the abs, and with the MM pose, the separation in the abs pops even more. I would not normally expect to see such differences with the pictures being this frequent but I can 100% see the improved leanness. This one here IMO really highlights how much you are leaning up in the mid section.... looks fantastic

you're only like half way through comp prep and I'd be happy to be at this stage right now and call it good lol

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[MrKleen73]

You may have wooshed more than you thought you should over that past week but I can definitely see it in the abs, and with the MM pose, the separation in the abs pops even more. I would not normally expect to see such differences with the pictures being this frequent but I can 100% see the improved leanness. This one here IMO really highlights how much you are leaning up in the mid section.... looks fantastic

you're only like half way through comp prep and I'd be happy to be at this stage right now and call it good lol

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Thanks! I agree there is an obvious difference for sure. Still having an issue with the posing with the one side rolling forward more. Issues with the subscap making it hard to I got a lot of work done with my soft tissue / chiro yesterday. She really put me through the ringer, stuff was incredibly painful but today my back feels so much looser, I expect I will be able to get into position easier. Even more importantly that starting working with the posing coach Sunday and he should really be able to help me with cues to figure out when I am in position and what it should feel like. If you look in my rear double biceps you will be able to see how the right side of my lower midback is not firing well compared to the left side. My chiro had me really focus on depressing my scap yesterday and said the area fills back up once I get the scap depressed. It is really cool working with someone who specializes in powerlifters, bodybuilders and MMA guys. She really seems to have a good grasp on what is needed and although it is not ART, it is definitely an effective form of myofascial release.


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[Hyde]

That prep cheat meal was heavily popularized by Matt Jansen. It’s simple, repeatable, accessible, and effective. It may be a bit of an industry meme at this point, but there’s no arguing with results from red meat & a huge serving potatoes with lots of added fat & salt.

 

[MrKleen73]

That prep cheat meal was heavily popularized by Matt Jansen. It’s simple, repeatable, accessible, and effective. It may be a bit of an industry meme at this point, but there’s no arguing with results from red meat & a huge serving potatoes with lots of added fat & salt.

It definitely did the trick for me. Yeah Pat said that it is basically a bodybuilding standard for refeeds. I also didn't realize they were cooked in peanut oil, so at least the oils are a little healthier than your standard fair fries.

I am at the deposition site now passing time waiting for them to come get set up. Hopefully the fact they are not here yet does not mean I will be stuck here later today. I think we only have the room until 4, or hope so.

I trained once I got up here last night. After lifting and cardio I got back to the hotel around 12:00-12:30AM, and to bed around 1:15. I slept in until 6:45Am this morning and was pretty tired but today is a 40mcg Clen day so that issue has been resolved. Luckily no work tomorrow for Juneteenth so I will be able to sleep in a bit and catch up on some rest.

 

[Dustin07]

I trained once I got up here last night. After lifting and cardio I got back to the hotel around 12:00-12:30AM, and to bed around 1:15. I slept in until 6:45Am

Excuse my vanity but JFC dude. as if bodybuilding prep wasn't hard enough already on an MF'er!

 

[Segansational]

That's what we call dedication and no excuses Kleen! Way to get it.

 

[MrKleen73]

Excuse my vanity but JFC dude. as if bodybuilding prep wasn't hard enough already on an MF'er!

Damn Straight! It ain't easy that's for sure but you have to bite the bullet sometimes. Especially when you know the workload of the next day is going to wipe you out for training. Only so many strategic moves to make before losing ground unfortunately.

That's what we call dedication and no excuses Kleen! Way to get it.

Thanks Segan, I knew yesterday was going to wipe me out and I was going to want to rest when I got home. Almost 26 hours of work with drive time included in 2 days. Had to set up a rented conference room for a court proceeding for our new office in Dallas. They just opened and don't have IT or a big conference room in the temp space so I had to drive up and set up then head back home with the equipment after. So I was super active yesterday on top of it being my 2nd day on Clen so I was already running like a race machine for 2 days even when sitting.

I am going to go in to train around 4-4:30 today to make up for yesterday. So just trading the normal rest days place with the workout in order not to lose any ground. Cardio is really going to suck after legs today. I normally don't do cardio on leg day and do it on my off day just because it is easier on me when my legs aren't already toast.

6/19/24 - 199.2 - We have another huge drop! Before the refeed I was 202.4, went up to 206.8, and here we are 3 days separated and down to 199.2 that means I lost 3lbs the last 7 days even with a refeed... The pics do show it though!!!!

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[Dustin07]

Sorta blows my mind that we can see improvements only days a part. My wife is talking to a coach and there will be checkins but they talked about pretty large time gaps between pictures "because too frequently and you don't see it" I was like........ uh I know a guy who might beg to differ, lol

Damn Straight! It ain't easy that's for sure but you have to bite the bullet sometimes. Especially when you know the workload of the next day is going to wipe you out for training. Only so many strategic moves to make before losing ground unfortunately.

The upside... hopefully this was your experience.... is that at least when it's all said and done you know damn well you'll be tired that night and should get some quality sleep in!

 

[MrKleen73]

Sorta blows my mind that we can see improvements only days a part. My wife is talking to a coach and there will be checkins but they talked about pretty large time gaps between pictures "because too frequently and you don't see it" I was like........ uh I know a guy who might beg to differ, lol



The upside... hopefully this was your experience.... is that at least when it's all said and done you know damn well you'll be tired that night and should get some quality sleep in!

I slept pretty good once my body started relaxing from the workout. I also had a Ryse energy drink about 5:30PM to make sure I had energy for the gym when I got there a couple hours later and I think because of the clen it just stuck around longer than it normally would have. On Clen days I am using less preworkout now due to this fact.

Once this lower pec, and back area tighten up things are really going to start looking much better. I am noticing a little less under the chest every progress picture now. I used to have a fat strip going all the way back into my armpit and that has really cleaned up a lot the last couple weeks. Another 5 lbs is going to make a big difference. Another 10-12 is going to be huge, then some refilling of glycogen into a 190-195 shredded beast will just be sick. I hope I come in over 190 but whatever I come in at as long as it is the best look we can achieve is what I will be happy with. This isn't a weight contest it is an aesthetic competition.

 

[Hyde]

I was also thinking the pec fat is really coming down now, along with deeper abs, and love handles are thinning out nicely.

 

[MrKleen73]

I was also thinking the pec fat is really coming down now, along with deeper abs, and love handles are thinning out nicely.

Yeah, it definitely makes me feel better to see it going down quickly.

So the clen is definitely a part of the sudden weight loss. Imagine that LOL. I have definitely noticed on the days I use it the following day I go flat and drop weight. Then yesterday was an off day and today I am 202.3 despite not having any carbs after using my 4rth meal as an intra drink. I looked tight, and somewhat full compared to what I have been seeing the last two days. Legs toasted me, then I put the smack down on 45 minutes of cardio on the elliptical. I did it in the warehouse gym so it was hot and i was dripping sweat from the bottom of my shirt when I was done.

 

[akboom87]

Man it’s just amazing how you can see the progress in all the photos in a short time frame. Triceps are really starting to pop! And as usual just looking massive and jacked man.

 

[MrKleen73]

Man it’s just amazing how you can see the progress in all the photos in a short time frame. Triceps are really starting to pop! And as usual just looking massive and jacked man.

Thanks! Yeah I store a bit of fat between my delt and triceps. I am getting lean enough again it is starting to burn off and show the separation between them and my delts.

I hit up shoulders and triceps today then did 45 minutes of grueling cardio in the hot ass warehouse gym. That is going to take some getting used to. I did legs and cardio there last night. I had to swap to the treadmill at 20 minutes due to some discomfort in my feet and lower back. Them swapped to the bike for the last 15 minutes because my lower back was being aggravated. Should have apparently started on the bike today to rest the lower back a bit after legs. Anyway I am sitting here letting my emu oil muscle rub soak in so it will hopefully be fine in the morning. Anyway I was gassed at like 15 minutes into cardio day. I pushed the pace anyway until me pushing the pace probably looked pathetic on the bike. LMAO I was dying by the end. Just ran out of fuel. My tank top weighed about 3lbs when I took it off at home. Everything soaked. Made me feel like a warrior to finish this one!

 

[gphagan1]

It truly is amazing seeing the improvements every couple of days. I mean you are shredded now, but you are going to be absolutely peeled by the meet, like in that 6% BF range. It really is amazing being able to notice it daily. All I can say is you’re the man, and keep up the good work.

 

[MrKleen73]

It truly is amazing seeing the improvements every couple of days. I mean you are shredded now, but you are going to be absolutely peeled by the meet, like in that 6% BF range. It really is amazing being able to notice it daily. All I can say is you’re the man, and keep up the good work.

Thanks GP! Giving it hell!!!

Unfortunately my cardio, well the combination of legs the day before then cardio again before recovering tweaked my lower back decently. I bathed my lower back in my muscle rub last night and slathered it on thick again this morning. Knocked back 2 aleve as well in hopes to bring inflammation back down. Going to be scheduling another whole hour with my tissue worker this weekend. We will try 30 minutes on lower back and 30 minutes on upper back. Doing whatever we can to keep the wheels on this thing. I think it will be okay. I think instead of cardio today I will take a long walk at a pace that isn't pushing me but is enough to burn some calories. It ain't perfect, but it will do for today. Other than that I plan to avoid hinge movements in my training today and only do supported work. Possibly more vertical pulling. I feel it might be a safer option with lower back tweaked. As annoying as this is, it is definitely not the worst it has been in recent months. Just inflammation causing issues but it is enough to cause some adjustment.

 

[gphagan1]

Thanks GP! Giving it hell!!!

Unfortunately my cardio, well the combination of legs the day before then cardio again before recovering tweaked my lower back decently. I bathed my lower back in my muscle rub last night and slathered it on thick again this morning. Knocked back 2 aleve as well in hopes to bring inflammation back down. Going to be scheduling another whole hour with my tissue worker this weekend. We will try 30 minutes on lower back and 30 minutes on upper back. Doing whatever we can to keep the wheels on this thing. I think it will be okay. I think instead of cardio today I will take a long walk at a pace that isn't pushing me but is enough to burn some calories. It ain't perfect, but it will do for today. Other than that I plan to avoid hinge movements in my training today and only do supported work. Possibly more vertical pulling. I feel it might be a safer option with lower back tweaked. As annoying as this is, it is definitely not the worst it has been in recent months. Just inflammation causing issues but it is enough to cause some adjustment.

Yeah that sucks, but unfortunately at our age it’s a part of the game. That’s why Chiropractors, ART Therapists, & good PTs are necessary tools. As well as some of the awesome supplements we have these days.

 

[MrKleen73]

Yeah that sucks, but unfortunately at our age it’s a part of the game. That’s why Chiropractors, ART Therapists, & good PTs are necessary tools. As well as some of the awesome supplements we have these days.

No doubt!

My back is still unhappy, not like I expected it to heal up in a few hours or anything. I wend for a 45 minute walk during lunch, and even the walk was challenging. I kept my core tight to keep things safe and aligned better. However it was actually exhausting out there. Lots of heat, should have got a little darker, on my upper body anyway. Noticed my back / shoulder was doing some odd and uncomfortable things during my walk as well. So, I may end up pushing the session until tomorrow just to be safe. I intend to at least give it a shot though, and see what I can do. If anything will likely be a get some blood in there and get a pump but avoid getting near failure.

 

[MrKleen73]

Things got a bit rougher on my lower back as the day went on so I made the call and opted to not train and just lay down as much as possible and rest. I slept for a couple hours after eating once I got home then woke up ate, and watched tv until I passed out again around 10, then got out of bed this morning at about 9 so I got in about 14 hours of sleep yesterday which I realy needed. I took 800mg ibuprofen every 4 hours and my back is about 50-60% better. I am probably just going to add a few sets of light underhand rows into my arm workout today. I may only walk for cardio too, we will see. Hoping coach sees my check in before I go just in case he directs me to give the cardio a day or two.

He also mentioned last night that he wants to try to do an earlier show. So now we are looking at a few more. I already paid registration for the Johnnie O Jackson and am about 95% sure I can't get a refund. I asked if part of this was due to being worried about not having a full week to re-peak for nationals because if that is the case, I am not going to let the loss of 150 get in the way of bringing in my best package at nationals. These are the shows we have as options now.

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I told him I am more confident with the last 3 because I know I still have a decent amount of fat to lose but that he was the expert and could tell me what he thought was best. That since I may have overdieted for my show and been ready way out I have no clue how fast the rest of it would come off. He lives in Austin so he may want to go with the July 13th show there, in that case I think I could pay for his ticket and he could be there without having to do a hotel fee. However we didn't plan on having him there at the Johnnie O Jackson. My preference is the Lee Labrada because it would be much easier for my family and friends to attend. However my understanding is that the Houston shows have deep classes and lots of competitors.

 

[MrKleen73]

Check In Update - Fasted Weight 201.4 - Pretty sure I am up due to lower intensity cardio and no weight training yesterday. I am looking nice a lot fuller though, and IMO I look leaner than my 199.2 on Wednesday.

I am getting a little better control of my back again. Also changed up my stance in the RDB a little to get rid of the imbalance in my lower back more. I think it helped tremendously. Still some issues but much better.


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[PolishHamm3r77]

Things got a bit rougher on my lower back as the day went on so I made the call and opted to not train and just lay down as much as possible and rest. I slept for a couple hours after eating once I got home then woke up ate, and watched tv until I passed out again around 10, then got out of bed this morning at about 9 so I got in about 14 hours of sleep yesterday which I realy needed. I took 800mg ibuprofen every 4 hours and my back is about 50-60% better. I am probably just going to add a few sets of light underhand rows into my arm workout today. I may only walk for cardio too, we will see. Hoping coach sees my check in before I go just in case he directs me to give the cardio a day or two.

He also mentioned last night that he wants to try to do an earlier show. So now we are looking at a few more. I already paid registration for the Johnnie O Jackson and am about 95% sure I can't get a refund. I asked if part of this was due to being worried about not having a full week to re-peak for nationals because if that is the case, I am not going to let the loss of 150 get in the way of bringing in my best package at nationals. These are the shows we have as options now.

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I told him I am more confident with the last 3 because I know I still have a decent amount of fat to lose but that he was the expert and could tell me what he thought was best. That since I may have overdieted for my show and been ready way out I have no clue how fast the rest of it would come off. He lives in Austin so he may want to go with the July 13th show there, in that case I think I could pay for his ticket and he could be there without having to do a hotel fee. However we didn't plan on having him there at the Johnnie O Jackson. My preference is the Lee Labrada because it would be much easier for my family and friends to attend. However my understanding is that the Houston shows have deep classes and lots of competitors.

I’d want to put myself in the best position to succeed against the competition around me. I know the idea of a close show is great for friends and fam to attend but I’d rather travel or be inconvenienced a little more if it meant being up against lesser competitors.
You have made significant positive strides from the pics you took on vacation. Shaping up nicely, the tan helps but that drop in cals is working!!!

 

[MrKleen73]

I’d want to put myself in the best position to succeed against the competition around me. I know the idea of a close show is great for friends and fam to attend but I’d rather travel or be inconvenienced a little more if it meant being up against lesser competitors.
You have made significant positive strides from the pics you took on vacation. Shaping up nicely, the tan helps but that drop in cals is working!!!

Yeah. I have to be honest the fact I am going to be going to nationals anyway, I am not too worried about that specifically. The people at the Nationals will all be top notch competitors, and where I place there is what really matters. My thought is if I can't beat the top Master's over 50 guy here, I won't likely beat him 3 weeks later unless we messed up on my approach or just need a tiny bit more conditioning. That, and I went and looked at last years winner and although impressive, I think I have a better package and much better abs which when all other things are equal better abs or even calves can win a show. That being said, I let my coach know if it worked out schedule wise that would likely be my preference but I would do whatever he thinks is best. That is really what it comes down to. I have put my trust in him this far, changing my training style to his and everything just to make this work and know that I didn't make a decision going against his guidance that cost me the competition. Dude is definitely in pretty good condition but I think my legs are better, and have a lot more separation.

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[PolishHamm3r77]

Yeah. I have to be honest the fact I am going to be going to nationals anyway, I am not too worried about that specifically. The people at the Nationals will all be top notch competitors, and where I place there is what really matters. My thought is if I can't beat the top Master's over 50 guy here, I won't likely beat him 3 weeks later unless we messed up on my approach or just need a tiny bit more conditioning. That, and I went and looked at last years winner and although impressive, I think I have a better package and much better abs which when all other things are equal better abs or even calves can win a show. That being said, I let my coach know if it worked out schedule wise that would likely be my preference but I would do whatever he thinks is best. That is really what it comes down to. I have put my trust in him this far, changing my training style to his and everything just to make this work and know that I didn't make a decision going against his guidance that cost me the competition. Dude is definitely in pretty good condition but I think my legs are better, and have a lot more separation.

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I’d listen to your coach. He’s the paid professional. If he hasn’t steered you wrong yet then stay the course.
I agree the abs and calves concept. That guys vacuum looks flat w little to no separation on lower abdomen, could be the lighting but still not a good shot. Legs r not “amazing” for sure and calves look blah.

 

[MrKleen73]

Okay, so coach wants some time to mull things over on a show or just doig the one we have planned already. I mentioned that I still had myself above 10%BF, that although my abs are tight and looked well pronounced my back was still rather soft and undefined. He went back and looked and agreed and thinks we might need the whole time up to the Johnnie O Jackson to get that off. Just depends. So he is going to mull that over. I told him to pick whatever show he thought he could put me on stage looking badass for. I at least feel better we are on the same page regarding my back. I didn't know if we could slim it down in time to look awesome for the earlier of the early shows. I think if he changes it, it would likely be the one on the 8-9th. He said he wished there was one in Texas the week of the 17th so that is the closest date to it.

I was right about his reasoning for wanting to move shows though. He said typically the bodybuilders go on Saturday which leaves time for a full peak week but it is Thursday this time which means it is only a 4 day window which makes things harder. So now he is just trying to figure out if we can work the peak with with the show planned, or do one earlier. I think I would be fine with one a little earlier if we went in knowing I was not going to be in peak condition already. Then if I won bonus and if I didn't no sweat, it was part of qualifying for nationals. I didn't know until recently that Masters, Teens and a couple other classes only have to have competed since January 1 2023 to be qualified for nationals.

 

[BennyMagoo79]

Damn dude you are looking awesome!!

 

[Hyde]

Okay, so coach wants some time to mull things over on a show or just doig the one we have planned already. I mentioned that I still had myself above 10%BF, that although my abs are tight and looked well pronounced my back was still rather soft and undefined. He went back and looked and agreed and thinks we might need the whole time up to the Johnnie O Jackson to get that off. Just depends. So he is going to mull that over. I told him to pick whatever show he thought he could put me on stage looking badass for. I at least feel better we are on the same page regarding my back. I didn't know if we could slim it down in time to look awesome for the earlier of the early shows. I think if he changes it, it would likely be the one on the 8-9th. He said he wished there was one in Texas the week of the 17th so that is the closest date to it.

I was right about his reasoning for wanting to move shows though. He said typically the bodybuilders go on Saturday which leaves time for a full peak week but it is Thursday this time which means it is only a 4 day window which makes things harder. So now he is just trying to figure out if we can work the peak with with the show planned, or do one earlier. I think I would be fine with one a little earlier if we went in knowing I was not going to be in peak condition already. Then if I won bonus and if I didn't no sweat, it was part of qualifying for nationals. I didn't know until recently that Masters, Teens and a couple other classes only have to have competed since January 1 2023 to be qualified for nationals.

Yeah, that low back fat has to come in more. If you went against the dude you posted with the weaker legs now, he would beat you on conditioning. Not from the front necessarily, but they will see you from the back too and it all adds up. The judges’ job IS to split hairs over the details.

 

[MrKleen73]

Damn dude you are looking awesome!!

Thanks Benny, good to see you in here!

Yeah, that low back fat has to come in more. If you went against the dude you posted with the weaker legs now, he would beat you on conditioning. Not from the front necessarily, but they will see you from the back too and it all adds up. The judges’ job IS to split hairs over the details.

Yeah, agreed, I think I am about 8-10 lbs away from show ready or another 4-6 weeks out basically. Of course that all depends on how I respond to the Winny and other stuff once we know whether we are starting it soon or not. I have a feeling with things possibly spreading out we might have to run the Winny for 6 week total minimum. I got my other orals to complete the run today. So now I have 36 50mg tabs and 100 20mg tabs of Proviron, and 100 50mg tabs of winstrol Plus a few other designer orals I already had on hand. We have discussed possibly adding in SD the last weeks if need be for added fullness. However, there is a decent chance we will run tren at 150-200 a week the last 4-6 weeks to help with that since it will probably be a little better on the health profile. Who knows how tings may change going into it now depending on what show he picks. If the one on the 8/9-10/24 it will be a little easier to make the orals work without causing issues. If we do the one on the 3rd then we probably start looking at the winny for about 6-8 weeks. Not undoable, I did it plenty times with toxic compounds back when I was a prosteroid only guy. However just not optimal for health markers post show. Not that I expect them to be great after prep anyway.

Then again if it is a warm up show maybe we don't need to adjust the plan too much, start them a week or so out from the first show and just let them continue to do their job after the first show. Who knows but it all has my mind racing as I am sure you can tell!

I took tonight off of cardio, I am teetering on the edge of recovery and reinjury with how my back felt with some of my arm workout I knew pushing it with a bunch of walking or anything more intense was not the way to go. I need to let it rest enough to heal so I am not fighting it nonstop. I did end up having a great arms session though. I just had to replace some exercises that didn't feel good, or I knew would be risky to my lower back. Just not pushing this one.

 

[MrKleen73]

Training Dump

May 31

Modified Super Set
MyoRep Match Shoulder press - 110*13, 110*10 rp 3

MyoRep Supported rows - 145*14, 145*10 rp 4

Modified Super Set
MyoRep Match Lat Pulldown - 160*9, 160*8 rp 1, 160*6 rp 3

MyoRep Match DB Side Raises - 20*17, 20*17, 20*12 rp 5

DB Rear Delt Swings - 20*20, 25*20, 30*18

Modified Super Set 3
MyoRep Match Leg Extensions - 115*16, 115*11 rp 5, 115*10 rp 4 rp 2

MyoRep Match Leg Curls - 85*13, 85*11 rp 2, 85*10 rp 3

Modified Super Set 2 sets @ rpe 10
Assisted dip, and Assisted Chin ups

Triceps cable extension - 50*15, 50*14
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Arms (Saturday)
Sunday, Jun 02, 2024 at 4:43pm

SA Triceps Rope Extension
Set 1: 25 lbs x 12 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 15 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 15 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe

Triceps Kickback (Dumbbell)
"Cable"
Set 1: 20 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe

EZ Bar Skullcrusher
Set 1: 50 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 14 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Diamond Push Up
Set 1: 12 reps
Set 2: 8 reps
Set 3: 6 reps

Single Arm Preacher Curl
"Machine"
Set 1: 32.5 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

EZ Bar Biceps Curl
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 40 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 40 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe

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Chest & Biceps (Monday)
Tuesday, Jun 04, 2024 at 7:59am

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
"MyoRep Match"
Set 1: 100 lbs x 13 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 8 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 100 lbs x 3 @ 9 rpe
Set 4: 100 lbs x 1 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 80 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 70 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 6 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Chest Fly (Machine)
Set 1: 100 lbs x 21 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 21 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 100 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Spider Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 30 lbs x 10 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Leg Extension (Machine)
Set 1: 130 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 130 lbs x 13 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 130 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Seated Leg Curl (Machine)
Set 1: 100 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 100 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Hip Adduction (Machine)
Set 1: 145 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 145 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 145 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe

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Shoulders & Triceps (Thurs)
Thursday, Jun 06, 2024 at 5:53pm

Shoulder Press (Machine Plates)
"MyoRep Match"
Set 1: 105 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 105 lbs x 8 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 105 lbs x 2 @ 9.5 rpe

Standing Lateral Raise
Set 1: 15 lbs x 20 @ 7.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 4: 15 lbs x 16 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 25 lbs x 20 @ 7.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 20 @ 9.5 rpe

Upright Row Smith Machine
Set 1: 50 lbs x 10 @ 6 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 40 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 40 lbs x 11 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 22.5 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 22.5 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 22.5 lbs x 11 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Seated Dip Machine
Set 1: 190 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 150 lbs x 14 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

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Back & Hamstrings (Friday)
Friday, Jun 07, 2024 at 9:27am

Arsenal Wide grip Pronated Chest Supported Row
Set 1: 130 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 130 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 140 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 4: 140 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

Lat Pulldown (Machine)
Set 1: 110 lbs x 10 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 130 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 130 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

Shrug (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 50 lbs x 20 @ 7.5 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 20 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe

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Arms (Saturday)
Saturday, Jun 08, 2024 at 9:20pm

SA Triceps Rope Extension
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 20 lbs x 17 @ 10 rpe

Triceps Kickback (Dumbbell)
"Cable"
Set 1: 20 lbs x 12 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe

EZ Bar Skullcrusher
Set 1: 60 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 60 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe

Diamond Push Up
Set 1: 13 reps
Set 2: 9 reps
Set 3: 7 reps

Single Arm Preacher Curl
Set 1: 35 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

EZ Bar Biceps Curl
Set 1: 50 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe

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Chest & Biceps (Monday)
Tuesday, Jun 11, 2024 at 5:22pm

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 170 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 170 lbs x 3 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 170 lbs x 3 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 140 lbs x 11 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 140 lbs x 3 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]
Set 6: 140 lbs x 3 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 80 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 80 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 90 lbs x 11 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 75 lbs x 3 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 55 lbs x 3 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 65 lbs x 8 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Chest Fly (Machine)
"Bent arm pec deck"
Set 1: 100 lbs x 18 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 2: 70 lbs x 21 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 14 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Spider Curl (Dumbbell)
"Free motion cable curl facing away"
Set 1: 50 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 50 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 40 lbs x 13 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 40 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe

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Legs - (Tuesday)
Wednesday, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:23pm

Leg Press (Machine)
Set 1: 575 lbs x 12 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 575 lbs x 12 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 575 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe

Hack Squat
Set 1: 135 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 135 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe

Leg Extension (Machine)
Set 1: 75 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 120 lbs x 7 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 85 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe

Romanian Deadlift (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 50 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe

Lying Leg Curl (Machine)
Set 1: 50 lbs x 20 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 40 lbs x 18 @ 10 rpe

Standing Calf Raise
Set 1: 30 reps
Set 2: 30 reps

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Shoulders & Triceps (Thurs)
Thursday, Jun 13, 2024 at 7:20pm

Shoulder Press (Machine Plates)
Set 1: 110 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 2: 70 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Standing Lateral Raise
Set 1: 50 lbs x 20 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 80 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 40 lbs x 16 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 30 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 30 lbs x 20 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 14 @ 10 rpe

Upright Row (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 30 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 30 lbs x 14 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 50 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 40 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe [Failure]

Triceps Dip
Set 1: 20 reps
Set 2: 14 reps

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Arms (Saturday)
Saturday, Jun 15, 2024 at 8:51pm

SA Triceps Rope Extension
Set 1: 30 lbs x 20 @ 6 rpe
Set 2: 42.5 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 55 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 4: 35 lbs x 20 @ 10 rpe

Triceps Kickback (Dumbbell)
"Was a long rest between set 1 and 2"
Set 1: 20 lbs x 13 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe

Triceps Extension (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 45 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe

Diamond Push Up
Set 1: 13 reps
Set 2: 11 reps
Set 3: 8 reps

Single Arm Preacher Curl
Set 1: 35 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe

EZ Bar Biceps Curl
Set 1: 55 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 11 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 45 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

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Chest & Biceps (Monday)
Monday, Jun 17, 2024 at 9:55pm

Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 200 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 2: 160 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 60 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 4: 35 lbs x 6 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 25 lbs x 9 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Chest Fly (Machine)
Set 1: 100 lbs x 21 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 21 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 100 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Spider Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 30 lbs x 10 @ 7.5 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 20 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 11 @ 10 rpe

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Legs - (Tuesday)
Wednesday, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:44pm

Leg Press (Machine)
Set 1: 470 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 470 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 470 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 730 lbs x 3 @ 9.5 rpe

Walking Lunge (Dumbbell)

Leg Extension (Machine)
"Jj"
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 40 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe

Romanian Deadlift (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 55 lbs x 15 @ 7.5 rpe
Set 2: 55 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 55 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Lying Leg Curl (Machine)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 45 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe

Standing Calf Raise
Set 1: 26 reps
Set 2: 12 reps

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Shoulders & Triceps (Thurs)
Thursday, Jun 20, 2024 at 5:54pm

Shoulder Press (Machine Plates)
Set 1: 255 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 2: 225 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Standing Lateral Raise
Set 1: 50 lbs x 20 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 3: 50 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 30 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 5: 30 lbs x 5 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 20 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 22 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Upright Row (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 35 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 35 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 50 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Triceps Dip
Set 1: 20 reps
Set 2: 15 reps

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Arms (Saturday)
Saturday, Jun 22, 2024 at 6:23pm

SA Triceps Rope Extension
Set 1: 40 lbs x 20 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 40 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 4: 40 lbs x 20 @ 10 rpe

Triceps Kickback (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 20 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 15 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe


Ez Bar OH triceps extensions
Set 1: 60 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 60 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

Diamond Push Up replaced by
Arsenal Converging Chest Press (Narrow Grip) - Done folding arms more like a JM press to get a better stretch on the triceps
Set 1: 180x11 reps RPE9
Set 2: 180x9 reps RPE9.5
Set 3: 90x15 reps RPE9.5

Single Arm Preacher Curl
Set 1: 35 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 35 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe

EZ Bar Biceps Curl
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 8

That may have been the largest training dump of all time here. LMAO.

 

[Segansational]

You've got that guy beat on your legs and assuming abs for sure, as that's a strong point for you even at this % BF. I'd like to see a front lat spread or a front "relaxed" just for comparison though.

 

[Hyde]

Proviron is very benign despite being an oral, no worse on lipids probably than mast, and the way it tanks SHBG allegedly really sets up for a powerful visual change when it precedes Winstrol.

So you could start 50mg Proviron first 8 weeks out, then Tren at 6, then Winny at 4, and keep SD to the last 2-3 weeks. I mean he’s going to coach you however is best obviously for your scenario, but that’s a very typical layering for guys who are using all those together.

Something to consider is Tren and the orals are going to probably cause acid reflux very quickly, so you should get your Pepcid Complete and tubs of Glutamine lined up, maybe some Betaine HCL with your meat meals.

 

[MrKleen73]

You've got that guy beat on your legs and assuming abs for sure, as that's a strong point for you even at this % BF. I'd like to see a front lat spread or a front "relaxed" just for comparison though.

Here is a recent one, I am nowhere near as conditioned as him so not as tight of course. Plus still focusing more on getting even then abs...
Plus my lower pec fat and what is left on my chest need to come off to really shine in this pose. I am doing my first posing session today at 4:30. I suspect he will tweak it from this, I may post up some screen captures later. I am going to screen record the session so I can review it anyway.
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Proviron is very benign despite being an oral, no worse on lipids probably than mast, and the way it tanks SHBG allegedly really sets up for a powerful visual change when it precedes Winstrol.

So you could start 50mg Proviron first 8 weeks out, then Tren at 6, then Winny at 4, and keep SD to the last 2-3 weeks. I mean he’s going to coach you however is best obviously for your scenario, but that’s a very typical layering for guys who are using all those together.

Something to consider is Tren and the orals are going to probably cause acid reflux very quickly, so you should get your Pepcid Complete and tubs of Glutamine lined up, maybe some Betaine HCL with your meat meals.

Yeah, that is what he said about proviron too. I think we will be better able to lay out the approach once we have the first show picked. He said it would either be the one on the 9th-10th, or the one we already have me registered for. He is considering doing a soft peak for the first show so I can peak fully for the Nationals. I am not exactly sure what a soft peak entails exactly but assume it means we will fill up a little but not push for overly full, and maybe less water manipulation or something.

Good looking out on the recommendation for having the Pepcid and other items on hand for when I start those. I definitely need to do that.

I had an hour long session today and my lower back is feeling a decent bit better now. It had improved even more this morning then after she worked on it, it loosened up more. She said I should be good for the posing and then cardio later today.

 

[MrKleen73]

Just finished up with posing practice, we worked on Qtr Turns and a few poses. He helped me with some changes he felt were needed. Said some of them won't shine as much until I am leaner but will really pop later. Main thing on all front poses was to bring my legs in just a little more. Keep the adductors touching to give the impression of fullness and thickness. He has me putting my chest out over my toes to bring in more quad and show the chest better. He wasn't to upset with the rear double biceps and didn't have much to say other than spiking my calf a little less, and standing just a little taller in the legs for it.

Training and posing condition will be 3-4 times a week minimum starting with going through all of my poses twice and holding them for 10 seconds each. Of course I have to make sure I am doing them right first.

Pretty happy with some of the screen caps he sent me. My screen recorder turned off on me so I didn't get it recorded so I named the files with the cues and tips he told me.
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This is going to look good leaned out!

 

[Hyde]

The adductors closer to impress size is a great idea! Definitely seems like some good ideas and a great move on your part - it doesn’t matter how big or lean you are if the judges can’t see it well!