GQdaLEGEND
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i love ursa-gel .. i gotta jump on Carnitine gel too
looking fwd to hearing feedback on this
Tell Us What You Would Like to see From SNS, CEL, Muscle Addiction, & XPG (2024 Edition)
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i love ursa-gel .. i gotta jump on Carnitine gel too
looking fwd to hearing feedback on this
ironfiend23
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any advantages of 7-0xo gel over Reduce XT?
Beau
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Wow!!!
sns8778
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That falls into the - one person may like one better and someone else may like the other better - type category.
I love Reduce XT and I think its one of the best and most underrated fat loss products on the market; but I am interested to try FL7 7-OXO Gel too.
sns8778
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thescience
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I just popped one of these into the cart with a forskolin tripack. Any information on when users start to see benefits? Any information on upper dosages people are using?
sns8778
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I hope that you'll enjoy it.
In TCM, this is referred to as a very experiential herb - meaning that a lot of people can feel it from when they start taking it; but as with anything, it will be different for some people and they may need a few days for it to build up in their system.
I think it also depends on what benefits someone is looking for, since this seems to be good for such a variety of things. For example, I think you would likely start to get the 'feel' effects from it before you would start to see the benefits for dermatitis.
The common dosages that I've seen are 100 mg. 3x per day. I'm sure some will be likely to try more and I'm curious how they will like it; I'm going to start it on Sunday and will be doing the 100 mg. 3x per day at first to see how I like it before increasing the dosage.
sns8778
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I am terrible with being exact with my dosages.
I plan on one as soon as I wake up, one probably 6 pm, and then one spaced out sometimes between those 2 times the best I can.
I'm interested in the acute benefits that I can feel, but I'm most interested in the neuroplasticity benefits from continued use.
sns8778
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I'm still considering it and would like to. There are just a lot of things ahead of it.
I think its an interesting ingredient. I haven't looked in awhile to see if there is any new research on it. But from what I read at the time, I thought it had good potential. But I do think available products with it in there from what I've seen are way overpriced.
Madevilz
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in time for my summer bulk, lets gooo
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
telos95 is very interesting i looked at it while back
super expensive agree would be nice to see this added on .. dont know the demand for it.
Madevilz
Member
If it works as advertised, I don't care how much it costs really lol but reversing the clock by 7 years after 6 months seems a bit far fetched. I'm intrigued though. I wonder if anyone here used it and can provide some feedback.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
very true cant put a price on that
here are studies can just plug em in google
Telomere length variations in aging and age-related diseases. Curr Aging Sci. 2014;7(3):161-7.
Telomeric 8-oxo-guanine drives rapid premature senescence in the absence of telomere shortening. Nature Structural & Molecular Biology. Vol 29, 639–652. July 2022.
Cells become zombies when the ends of their chromosomes are damaged, Apple News. Aug 2022.
A randomized-controlled clinical study of Telos95®, a novel antioxidative dietary supplement, on the shortening of telomere length in healthy volunteers. HealthMED – Volume 13 / Number 1 / 2019.
Danksta710
Active member
It's very intriguing. But is 7 years of cell reversal really the same as adding 7yrs back on?
max silver
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Ah man my bank account is never going to recover at this rate.
GQdaLEGEND
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Ah man my bank account is never going to recover at this rate.
just look at your healthy muscles in the mirror.
thats what i gotta do time to time and remind myself all worth it lol
max silver
Well-known member
Steve is downright killing me financially with all of these sales and new product releases. I'm finally able to use most supplements after several years of not being able to do so due to various health related issues and I literally want to try everything that's out there now. That's on top of the stuff I still kept on stockpiling in the meantime until I was recovered sufficiently to start using what I already accumulated.
At this rate I might need to join some sort of supplement addicts self help group or something. This is a situation where keeping my personal finances separate from my wife's is both a blessing and a curse in that I don't have any sort of oversight to keep the purchases in check a little bit.
Hyde
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Steve is downright killing me financially with all of these sales and new product releases. I'm finally able to use most supplements after several years of not being able to do so due to various health related issues and I literally want to try everything that's out there now. That's on top of the stuff I still kept on stockpiling in the meantime until I was recovered sufficiently to start using what I already accumulated.
At this rate I might need to join some sort of supplement addicts self help group or something. This is a situation where keeping my personal finances separate from my wife's is both a blessing and a curse in that I don't have any sort of oversight to keep the purchases in check a little bit.
It’s alright; a lot of people don’t know what purchases to prioritize first when initially getting a ‘Steve’s Club’ membership
Electrake
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GuiltyIt’s alright; a lot of people don’t know what purchases to prioritize first when initially getting a ‘Steve’s Club’ membership
Jeremy1
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Steve is downright killing me financially with all of these sales and new product releases. I'm finally able to use most supplements after several years of not being able to do so due to various health related issues and I literally want to try everything that's out there now. That's on top of the stuff I still kept on stockpiling in the meantime until I was recovered sufficiently to start using what I already accumulated.
At this rate I might need to join some sort of supplement addicts self help group or something. This is a situation where keeping my personal finances separate from my wife's is both a blessing and a curse in that I don't have any sort of oversight to keep the purchases in check a little bit.
I have only just recently discovered his companies. I mean a few years ago I almost certainly bought something from sns at some site, couldn't tell you what, but I didn't explore further as my training was on the downswing. (Hurt back, kid, laziness etc...) I few months ago when I finally got determined to get back into it all, I got some Inihbit-P, Inhibit-E, and Reduce-XT. I was shocked at the results. Yes, I dialed in my diet and having trained for years I knew what to do with the weights, but I was impressed. I then did a run of Anabolic-XT and Optimize-t and was impressed further still. Best natty anabolic I have ever experienced, to be honest.
I recently made what is pretty close to, if not is in fact, a sinful amount (when the wife is away, J will pay) of purchases of these companies products and only these companies products. I am a believer. To be honest, it is kind of disheartening seeing all these new things appear haha. The new natty anabolics on the horizon from the various companies, the single ingredient things, the other various things for endurance and health etc... Not sure when the wife is going away again haha. Anyway, the various companies are pretty much a one stop shop for any supplement you could want. I find them trustworthy as nothing leads me to believe otherwise. Steve seems like a good guy and is always helpful and forthright. I see a good thing being established. I hope it and he prospers bigly.
Most likely more headache than it is worth as you you would have to deal further with a corrupt government, (they all are) and maybe being the way it is now is ideal and the most safe (probably is) I don't know, but if there was ever a possibility of a Series A or some such crowdfunding investment type thing for this firm, I would be in.
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GQdaLEGEND
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Steve is downright killing me financially with all of these sales and new product releases. I'm finally able to use most supplements after several years of not being able to do so due to various health related issues and I literally want to try everything that's out there now. That's on top of the stuff I still kept on stockpiling in the meantime until I was recovered sufficiently to start using what I already accumulated.
At this rate I might need to join some sort of supplement addicts self help group or something. This is a situation where keeping my personal finances separate from my wife's is both a blessing and a curse in that I don't have any sort of oversight to keep the purchases in check a little bit.
Although yes supplements are addictive and some are required for you to feel healthy/pain-free.
I look at it in a way .. if some other company was to put out same products they would be charging you anywhere from $5-25 more per product .. SNS being honest and putting ™ & ® at an affordable prices you cant go wrong.
that being said waiting on sale and paycheck tommorow lol
Caliguns45
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Steve is a great stand up guy! I have spoken with him on the phone at length and through email and he is one of if not the most genuine person I've ever talked with in the supplement industry. He's extremely knowledgeable in all aspects of the products he puts together and pours his heart and soul into all of it. He works his a$$ off to bring quality products that work to the market. I know that whenever he brings out a new product it's going to be exactly what he says it is with the proper clinical dosing.
I agree with you on the investment options if SNS was possibly going to be a publicly traded company. I think there's quite a few on this forum that would invest if it were an option. But at this point ordering directly and telling as many people as you can would really help grow SNS so we can continue to enjoy all the benefits of the products Steve offers.
max silver
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These are all reasons I can actually feel good about spending as much of my overall supplement budget on Steve's products as I do. Pepti-plex has my wonky tennis elbows feeling the best they have in like a decade, and Api-plex in addition has me experiencing some of the best sleep I have in several decades as a shift worker so each quickly became full time staples.
DBoss
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Your right I'd be one of those that would definitely investSteve is a great stand up guy! I have spoken with him on the phone at length and through email and he is one of if not the most genuine person I've ever talked with in the supplement industry. He's extremely knowledgeable in all aspects of the products he puts together and pours his heart and soul into all of it. He works his a$$ off to bring quality products that work to the market. I know that whenever he brings out a new product it's going to be exactly what he says it is with the proper clinical dosing.
I agree with you on the investment options if SNS was possibly going to be a publicly traded company. I think there's quite a few on this forum that would invest if it were an option. But at this point ordering directly and telling as many people as you can would really help grow SNS so we can continue to enjoy all the benefits of the products Steve offers.
sns8778
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The sale codes are live and banners are on the homepage.
I'll be doing the thread on it momentarily
sns8778
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I think that is the issue - I don't think there is much, if any demand for it because its not very well known.
It's an ingredient/product that I would really like to do, but it wouldn't just be one that we could do and it would just sell.
It's one that we would wind up with quite a bit of money tied up in and that probably wouldn't be a fast seller unless we were able to tie quite a bit up in advertising to hope that it would sell.
There are a lot of things I want to do, but have to be smart about the sequence that we do them in. I've been guilty in the past of doing things based on my excitement or excitement from a few, but then wind up with cool products but that didn't really sell extremely well - and at the expense of it pushing back things that were going to sell better.
So just having to try to prioritize and find a balance for things now.
I think it has super exciting potential.
The thing is though, even if it really does turn back the clock on telomeres the way it says it will, that's not something that people necessarily feel - or at least while its happening gradually, they don't feel it happening; so some people will be hesitant to buy it or to keep buying it because of the price and not actually feeling it.
I will say though, if we did one, it would be cheaper than the prices people are seeing now bc some of the markups on it are ridiculous.
I don't think you're going to feel 7 years younger, but I think it definitely has its benefits.
In general, on the Telos95 subject, I really want to do an anti-aging/longevity sub-brand and if we do, I would either do a Telos95 or have Telos95 in a formula under it. It's just a matter of cash flow bc if I'm going to do an anti-aging/longevity brand, I want to do it right and make the absolute best products possible and that is going to require a good amount of cash flow, that just right now I honestly can't take away from the other brands. Plus, it would be something that would also have to be able to afford to put a good amount of advertising in. So, for the anti-aging/longevity brand, its either going to be something that will be down the road and happen when I can, or something I would have to find investors for.
It's possible that if it does take a super long time to do a line like that, may do a Telos95 under the SNS Health Series though.
sns8778
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Thank you. I'm glad. It's exciting for me too.
We actually did talk about that, but the problem is that the price of legitimate Sesamin now is so high - it is much, much higher than it was back then. That's why he had stopped doing it back then, and the cost is over 2x as high now as it was when he stopped.
So the issue with doing it now would be that it is a good ingredient, but the price would be higher than you could get great comprehensive formulas for, and that we'd have a great quality but high cost product and then we'd be competing with some of these companies that just put sesame oil in a capsule and call is Sesamin and most people would buy theirs bc it would be cheaper.
I really do appreciate the post and suggestion though. And it is something I have on my raw material list to keep an eye on.
Lipoderm Xtreme and Napalm Xtreme should both be only a few weeks out
sns8778
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It’s alright; a lot of people don’t know what purchases to prioritize first when initially getting a ‘Steve’s Club’ membership
Ha. Now if we could just get more people knowing about the club and the products.
We make so many great products, but that's our problem is that just not enough people know about them - and we don't have the marketing budget that most brands have now.
I'm pretty much in desperation mode trying to figure out how to get more people knowing about the brands.
sns8778
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Steve is downright killing me financially with all of these sales and new product releases. I'm finally able to use most supplements after several years of not being able to do so due to various health related issues and I literally want to try everything that's out there now. That's on top of the stuff I still kept on stockpiling in the meantime until I was recovered sufficiently to start using what I already accumulated.
At this rate I might need to join some sort of supplement addicts self help group or something. This is a situation where keeping my personal finances separate from my wife's is both a blessing and a curse in that I don't have any sort of oversight to keep the purchases in check a little bit.
Thank you for the kind words and the support.
I'm really glad that you're finally able to be back into things; I know all about how health issues can just turn life upside down.
I think most guys would agree that keeping personal finances separate is a great thing haha - in the sense of not getting fussed at over how much we spend. Anytime this subject comes up, I think about a customer that buys a lot during the sales but will ask if I can ship it in increments to him when he lets me know to, so that his wife doesn't see it all come in at once. And its funny bc I mentioned that once on here and then someone else asked me to do it - which I'm glad to do. But I know have a space in my office under a table that I put boxes for guys that need me to space out shipments to them so they don't get in trouble with their wives haha.
sns8778
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Thank you for the kind words and feedback.
I'm really glad that you're liking Pepti-Plex and Api-Plex. If you ever have time, any feedback in the threads would be so appreciated.
Pepti-Plex is a great product for so many different things. I think the muscle health and healing aspects are so overlooked - it has helped me so much with the tissue damage and associated pain in my leg from my accident, and I'm pain free most of the time from a partial bicep tear that I've had for years.
Api-Plex gets so overlooked. That dosage of Apigenin is so good for so many different things.
Here are links to the threads for anyone reading that isn't familiar with them:
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sns8778
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Thank you for the kind words and support. I really truly appreciate it.
I'm really glad that you like the products and that they help you.
That's what this is all about to me - I love helping people and I love supplements, and the goal with the companies is to offer top quality products to help people reach their health and fitness goals and to improve their quality of life.
The part that you said about being disheartening with so many new products, that's something that I've thought about a lot and have really had to do some prioritizing on - in that we offer so many great products, but just not enough people know about them. And that I really need to be focusing more on advertising and increasing awareness of the brands versus coming out with more and more new things because after a certain point, we really just compete with ourselves on some things - like the natural anabolics for example. It's just that for me, I suck at the marketing side but love the science side, so the formulation and development is what I enjoy so its easy to get caught up in it. But we do have to start focusing more on increasing awareness than just on what's next. There's still a ton of stuff in process, and I think after we get out the things we do have in process, we will have almost every category covered and then new releases will slow down - but mainly just bc I think we will have everything covered then for the most part.
We do have several cool natural anabolics in the works - and we have a lot of flavored powder projects coming out throughout the rest of the year too. That's something I'm very excited about - getting Focus XT and Energized Aminos back in stock and then launching Daily Gains, an EAA, a hydration product, and a couple ideas for pre's.
Thank you on the well wishes for prosperity. I really do appreciate that and they're very much needed. From my end, its really hard in today's market bc we have so many products, and so much money tied up in products, and just not enough people know about us and we don't have the advertising budget to compete with the big brands. And most of the brands that come into the industry now have big marketing and money backing, so I'm in the tough spot of really needing to get the word out on the brands and needing more people to know about them, but not having the big ad budget they do.
In regards to what you said:
if there was ever a possibility of a Series A or some such crowdfunding investment type thing for this firm, I would be in.
^^^ I really wish I knew more about how to get investors or crowdfunding, because it could help a lot of cool projects come to life quicker, and it could be company changing and life changing for me as a person, to be able to have the advertising budget to let more people know about the brands and grow them.
If anyone knows about this type of thing, I'm all ears and would love to learn more. Anyone is welcome to pm me on this, and I'd be glad to set up a call with them.
sns8778
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Thank you. I really appreciate that.
I would be very open to crowdfunding or investment opportunities; crowdfunding is just something I don't know a lot about, but I think it would have a lot of cool potential. And investment wise, I'm definitely open for discussing with anyone interested.
sns8778
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Steve is a great stand up guy! I have spoken with him on the phone at length and through email and he is one of if not the most genuine person I've ever talked with in the supplement industry. He's extremely knowledgeable in all aspects of the products he puts together and pours his heart and soul into all of it. He works his a$$ off to bring quality products that work to the market. I know that whenever he brings out a new product it's going to be exactly what he says it is with the proper clinical dosing.
I agree with you on the investment options if SNS was possibly going to be a publicly traded company. I think there's quite a few on this forum that would invest if it were an option. But at this point ordering directly and telling as many people as you can would really help grow SNS so we can continue to enjoy all the benefits of the products Steve offers.
Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words and support. I really mean that.
I really do love helping people and I love supplements, and I just want to be able to help people reach their goals and improve their quality of life, and be able to make SNS be successful to help more people.
I'm definitely open to ideas and discussion from people that would be interested in investing in particular products, etc.
The companies, especially SNS, has so much potential but its just a matter of cash flow.
Now days, so many brands come into the industry being backed by marketing and investment companies, and they start off with an advertising budget that is more than what a normal company without that can even hope to do in total sales. It's so hard to compete with that - and that's what we desperately need is just more people knowing about the brands.
We make a lot of great products, its just that in the overall general consumer market, not many people know about us.
So thank you for mentioning that - helping spread the word on the brands is so helpful and means so much.
sns8778
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I wanted to say thank you so much to everyone that posted kind and encouraging words in this thread today.
Sincerely, it means a lot to me and it was very much needed.
I've been very discouraged lately - so reading kind words and support here really did help me today.
I want to help people, I want to grow the companies to be able to help more people, but just can't afford the advertising that the big companies can. And sometimes it gets discouraging to see the sales and awareness that many of them get and then how few people know about us.
I don't mean that negatively towards the big advertising brands - I wish any company that does the proper quality testing and meets labels claims the best. It's just discouraging sometimes to work 60+ hours a week and have so many great products, but not to have the advertising budget or social media knowledge to get people knowing about the brand.
I know I need to be better on social media, and I am going to try, but part of that is that I'm just kind of a shy person in general. I love talking to people and helping people, but I'm just not someone that likes to be on video - like there's a part of me that would love to do explainer videos and things to help educate people on the products and ingredients, but I just don't like being on camera. That's something I've been trying to talk myself into trying to get past, but its the way I've always been.
Normally, I don't let things get to me and try not to get discouraged, and I rarely talk about my life in general on here, but the last 6 weeks has just been rough. I'm used to things happening, bad things happen to all of us - but the last 6 weeks has been almost surreal just how many things have happened so close together.
I've always been open about having struggled most of my life with depression, which is why I always try to offer to be there for anyone here or anywhere that is struggling themselves; and normally I do a good job of handling mine, or at least giving the appearance of handling it well, but the last 6 weeks has just been rough.
So thank you to everyone again for the kind words. I really do sincerely appreciate it.
Sincerely, it means a lot to me and it was very much needed.
I've been very discouraged lately - so reading kind words and support here really did help me today.
I want to help people, I want to grow the companies to be able to help more people, but just can't afford the advertising that the big companies can. And sometimes it gets discouraging to see the sales and awareness that many of them get and then how few people know about us.
I don't mean that negatively towards the big advertising brands - I wish any company that does the proper quality testing and meets labels claims the best. It's just discouraging sometimes to work 60+ hours a week and have so many great products, but not to have the advertising budget or social media knowledge to get people knowing about the brand.
I know I need to be better on social media, and I am going to try, but part of that is that I'm just kind of a shy person in general. I love talking to people and helping people, but I'm just not someone that likes to be on video - like there's a part of me that would love to do explainer videos and things to help educate people on the products and ingredients, but I just don't like being on camera. That's something I've been trying to talk myself into trying to get past, but its the way I've always been.
Normally, I don't let things get to me and try not to get discouraged, and I rarely talk about my life in general on here, but the last 6 weeks has just been rough. I'm used to things happening, bad things happen to all of us - but the last 6 weeks has been almost surreal just how many things have happened so close together.
I've always been open about having struggled most of my life with depression, which is why I always try to offer to be there for anyone here or anywhere that is struggling themselves; and normally I do a good job of handling mine, or at least giving the appearance of handling it well, but the last 6 weeks has just been rough.
So thank you to everyone again for the kind words. I really do sincerely appreciate it.
Caliguns45
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You have an email coming in shortly
sns8778
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Not a chance.
That ingredient is illegal, and even if it wasn't, the parent raw material tends to convert to an ingredient that is not only illegal, but a Schedule III.
On top of that, even back when it was more commonplace it was very hard to get legit raw materials even back then, and it was very common to test raw materials and find that they had a high content of regular andro in them - which was a big issue because people were taking something hoping to lower their estrogen, but then it may have something in it that would increase estrogen.
That's the reason you'll read and hear some people say that 6-OXO increased their estrogen. It likely wasn't that 6-OXO increased it, it was likely that they bought a product from a company that hadn't tested their raws and it had a certain % of andro in it.
Always appreciate suggestions, but absolutely no way on that one.
sns8778
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Ah, okay. Some people really do mistakenly think that ingredient is still legal.
We have a great multivitamin in process that I think people are going to love.
We may do a creatine monohydrate at some point, but that market is so saturated and some bag brands and brands on Amazon sell it for less than legitimate would even cost to make and have tested.
I personally can't use creatine monohydrate because it causes stomach issues for me and bloats me so badly that, as my daughter put it - I look like I swallowed a Volkswagen haha.
That's why we offer Creatine HCI and also Magnesium Creatine Chelate - both are advanced forms that have better absorption and don't cause any stomach issues or the bloating and fluid retention that may get from regular monohydrate.
We have the Creatine HCI in both caps and powder, and the daily dosage needed on that is only 1,500 mg.
The capsules are super convenient, but the flavored powders taste amazing.
We have Magnesium Creatine Chelate, which is patented Creatine Magnapower, and the daily dosage needed on that is only 2,500 mg.
Creatine HCI Capsules:
The capsules are normally 29.99, but are on a Memorial Day Flash Sale for 19.99 at the moment.
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/creatine-hcl-caps/
Creatine HCI Powder:
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Magnesium Creatine Chelate:
https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/magnesium-creatine-chelate/
Hyde
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If you don’t already take a magnesium supplement, it’s basically the one mineral that most people actually are deficient in. Most people could use more, especially lifters, so the MCC helps kill 2 birds with one supplement. Consuming it around training also seems to help prevent cramping during/post for me.