Dustin07
Legend
amen to that, a spirit of gratitude is a great pillar in life.
Hyde’s Strength Odyssey
- Thread starter Hyde
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amen to that, a spirit of gratitude is a great pillar in life.
Hyde
Legend
3/18/24
Banded Angels, Pullaparts, Snatches
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlifts
BW Squat
Squat, powerbar
45,155x5
265x3
353x1
+belt
419,463x1
Frontsquat
155x3
200x8,5 *disc slipped here*
Beltsquat March
90x2 minutes
Lots of shoulder mobility
Widegrip Lat Pulldown
80x12
120 3x15
Standing Band Leg Curl
Light 3x20/leg
Band TKE
Light 1x50/leg
HS Wide NG CSR
90 3x20
Band GM
Avg 1x25
Plan was to hit a nice very easy single on squat quickly, then do the real work on Frontsquat volume for several sets of 8. Left knee was hurting at the top of all the fronts, so I was going slow, keeping tension on the muscle, not locking out hard. But I believe I must have sat further back on some reps to protect the knee & likely butt-winked with the extra depth. Felt a distinct pop & shooting pain and dumped the bar.
I find it extra hard to stomach that I was injured when the plan was very intentionally so mild & the weight was so very light for me, but you get what you get. I’m honestly not even that frustrated, besides the tremendous amount of pain and disfunction I’m in.
Been using ibuprofen, curcumin, heat, lots of stretching/mobility work & 400lb reverse hypers to try to keep pulling my hips straight as they get locked up. It’s pulling my torso down over to the right hand side instead of being able to stand straight.
Banded Angels, Pullaparts, Snatches
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlifts
BW Squat
Squat, powerbar
45,155x5
265x3
353x1
+belt
419,463x1
Frontsquat
155x3
200x8,5 *disc slipped here*
Beltsquat March
90x2 minutes
Lots of shoulder mobility
Widegrip Lat Pulldown
80x12
120 3x15
Standing Band Leg Curl
Light 3x20/leg
Band TKE
Light 1x50/leg
HS Wide NG CSR
90 3x20
Band GM
Avg 1x25
Plan was to hit a nice very easy single on squat quickly, then do the real work on Frontsquat volume for several sets of 8. Left knee was hurting at the top of all the fronts, so I was going slow, keeping tension on the muscle, not locking out hard. But I believe I must have sat further back on some reps to protect the knee & likely butt-winked with the extra depth. Felt a distinct pop & shooting pain and dumped the bar.
I find it extra hard to stomach that I was injured when the plan was very intentionally so mild & the weight was so very light for me, but you get what you get. I’m honestly not even that frustrated, besides the tremendous amount of pain and disfunction I’m in.
Been using ibuprofen, curcumin, heat, lots of stretching/mobility work & 400lb reverse hypers to try to keep pulling my hips straight as they get locked up. It’s pulling my torso down over to the right hand side instead of being able to stand straight.
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
That sucks man. Sorry to hear that. Hate it when my body makes an audible sound followed by pain and or discomfort. I wish you a speedy recovery
Segansational
Well-known member
Ah man, sorry to hear that! And yeah, I feel you on it happening on a (relatively) lighter load. You always at least want it to be a good story 
Dustin07
Legend
was it a familiar injury that you think have had to rebuild before or something new? if anyone can asses, rebuild and get through it, it's you.
Hyde
Legend
Ah man, sorry to hear that! And yeah, I feel you on it happening on a (relatively) lighter load. You always at least want it to be a good story
Right?! Or at least to feel like I “was asking for it” on some level. A red and a green plate on the power bar is technically 199.x lbs - not even actually 200! I just moved a little funny to help protect my knee and POW
Got an appointment with my ART guy tomorrow evening, so he can give me any tricks he has.
Dustin07
Legend
sometimes it's just life, right? I had a buddy busting his butt back in the xfit days. he was never a competitive beast, but he definitely built himself into a bigger beast than he was. maybe a 315lb deadlift for instance. months of hard work and personal improvement. tweaked his back pulling a 5lb rock out of the garden and laid him up for a long time.
of course, one type of person might persevere and find a solution through that quicker another might use the sore back as a reason not to lift anymore.
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
I tore my bicep moving a tv. Not a cool story
Hyde
Legend
Yeah I have, I have herniated my back multiple times over the years. Initially from deadlifting with a poor brace many years ago, moving through flexion during the lift. But also had some aggravations later on occasionally with frontsquats.
It’s funny to me I did 520 just 6 weeks ago, yet it only took 200lbs on an odd day to lay me low. But I have definitely heard of many lifters getting taken out with bending over to pick up a sock or get their kid out of the car as well. So life does happen.
Some of those TVs were no joke back in the day, though:
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BennyMagoo79
Well-known member
Jeez dude I hope you are feeling better soon!
Has it got you laid up?
Has it got you laid up?
Dustin07
Legend
for sure. buddy of mine from our old pre AM forum was a beast of a lifter and popped a hernia through his lower ab after tying his shoes on the ground when he went to stand up and cough/sneezed at the same time. (he pushed it back and and doc said don't worry about it until it does it again, lol) Hope yours recovers quick!!
Anabolic66
Member
Damn, that sucks Hyde. I hope you heal up quick... Its so odd, that I went 40+ years of training with no real injury (of course the shoulders always been a bit f***ked) but otherwise have always been fine.
Now the last couple of years its one after the other. (Age and wear and tear maybe).
Hopefully yours isnt too major and you recover quickly. Always a risk with lifting...
(Or doing anything physical).
Like others here have mentioned, one time I sneezed so hard I threw out my lower-back for a week.
Hyde
Legend
Just a bit. Sunday night I absolutely could not sleep on my mattress in any position & had to sleep on the floor, which I’ve never had to do for a back injury. Moving anywhere was brutal.
Lots of mobility work, ibuprofen, digging into my low back muscles, moving around & standing yesterday helped a lot. Slept comfortably last night & can get in/out of bed and car okay now with focus.
Went to the barbell club this morning to do some belt squat marches, more mobility, my shoulder rehab. Did a few sit-ups on the GHD. Planning on a bit of training tomorrow night, maybe a light feet-up bench. Trying to stay active to keep things from getting too tight.
I have always been pretty injury-prone. When I say I have a list, I mean I have a LIST of nicks & dings I’ve experienced over the last decade to navigate. Fortunately though, I’ve only needed a couple elbow surgeries; everything else has been resolvable with time and/or rehab. There’s nothing you can do about it, except try to get back on the path.
“We didn't come this far
Just to turn around
We didn't come this far
Just to run away”
-All the Heavy Lifting, Mastodon
Dustin07
Legend
I'm pumped to watch your rehab because I know you can and I know you know how to listen to your body. you know when to push it and you know when to cool it. You can't say that about a lot of people who will either go too hard or too soft.
Hyde
Legend
ART doc, who is also originally a chiro, determined my L4/L5 was out of place. He thinks I likely rotated my hip to the right slightly to protect my left knee at the bottom of the front squats. The combination of slight rotation with tight enough low back muscles under load was enough to pop things out of place.
Anyway, he adjusted me and audibly popped it back into place - immediately fixed the major list to the right I had. Gave me a couple rehab exercises to hammer and a stretch to help keep me straight, plus guidance on what he does/doesn’t want me doing the next week for rehab and training. Lots of movement, bloodflow, mobility and no spinal loading, as expected.
Very glad I have this guy in my corner!
Anyway, he adjusted me and audibly popped it back into place - immediately fixed the major list to the right I had. Gave me a couple rehab exercises to hammer and a stretch to help keep me straight, plus guidance on what he does/doesn’t want me doing the next week for rehab and training. Lots of movement, bloodflow, mobility and no spinal loading, as expected.
Very glad I have this guy in my corner!
gphagan1
Legend
Sounds like he knows his stuff….I’ve always appreciated a good chiropractor, that knows what they’re doing. They really are a lifesaver on many occasions.
Anabolic66
Member
Great news!
BennyMagoo79
Well-known member
Very good news!
Hopefully inflammation recedes quickly!
Hopefully inflammation recedes quickly!
akboom87
Well-known member
Glad he was able to get after it and k ow what he is doing, sounds like you are on the recovery path!
MrKleen73
Legend
That is awesome! I am relatively sure this is quite similar to what I have been dealing with. Unfortunately even though my ART guy was a chiropractor as well, he know longer does adjustments. So I have to go to someone else. I had a buddy give me his chiro, she is a beast, build like a brick shlthouse, so I am sure she can manipulate me easily. Going to see about getting in with her this week. Hopefully and adjustment will help me out too.
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
November 2012. 52” Phillips LCD. Stuffed my forearms under the screen wedged between the base up to the elbow. Had a decorative cloth on top of dresser to not scratch wood w base, lifted it and skewed the cloth, took it off, placed on floor and gripped it and ripped it second attempt. I did complete the lift. I still have the tv. Know your enemy
hope you are healing up!!!
Hyde
Legend
3/20/24
BW 250.2
Cat Camels
Psoas stretch w/ side bends
Rotator Angels
Widegrip Feet-up Bench
45,95,115x15
145x25,22
Seated DB OHP
20,25x20
30x15
Rope Cable Tri Pressdown
33x25
55 2x15
Pec Deck
200x20
220x12
Reverse Pec Deck
100x20
130x15
160x12
Machine Cable Chest Press
120,150x15
180x10
210x8
Hoist Cable Lat Pulldown
85,105,125,145,165x15
Glute Bridges on heels
BW 2x20
5 minute walk
Felt good to get what felt like a complete session in for the first time in a week, even if it was “just bodybuilding”. Took a 15 min walk on lunch and did my rehab work 2-3 other times today, besides what I did at the gym, so I feel like I am doing my part to keep my spine straight and hips from locking up.
Also dropped a pound or two the last few days with some shorter feeding windows & only 3 meals.
BW 250.2
Cat Camels
Psoas stretch w/ side bends
Rotator Angels
Widegrip Feet-up Bench
45,95,115x15
145x25,22
Seated DB OHP
20,25x20
30x15
Rope Cable Tri Pressdown
33x25
55 2x15
Pec Deck
200x20
220x12
Reverse Pec Deck
100x20
130x15
160x12
Machine Cable Chest Press
120,150x15
180x10
210x8
Hoist Cable Lat Pulldown
85,105,125,145,165x15
Glute Bridges on heels
BW 2x20
5 minute walk
Felt good to get what felt like a complete session in for the first time in a week, even if it was “just bodybuilding”. Took a 15 min walk on lunch and did my rehab work 2-3 other times today, besides what I did at the gym, so I feel like I am doing my part to keep my spine straight and hips from locking up.
Also dropped a pound or two the last few days with some shorter feeding windows & only 3 meals.
BennyMagoo79
Well-known member
Solid sesh!
Geez you might be lighter than me now! Nice work.
Geez you might be lighter than me now! Nice work.
Hyde
Legend
Thanks Benny!
I put on a tshirt last night I haven’t worn in a few weeks at least - I remember it making me feel a little claustrophobic on my neck last time. When I put it on yesterday, it fit great
Electrake
Active member
Lmao i resemble this right now. My merino wool shirts aren't as tight on the sleeves as they were. You'll get it back if you want it.Thanks Benny!
I put on a tshirt last night I haven’t worn in a few weeks at least - I remember it making me feel a little claustrophobic on my neck last time. When I put it on yesterday, it fit great
Hyde
Legend
Well the fat loss is intentional, i just didn’t expect it to come from the neck first lol.
I am trying to focus on getting my body healthier and better prepared to begin a prep. I need to focus on getting in shape to get in shape to train for competition, if that makes sense. Not prepping, not even building, just getting a healthy base established.
Electrake
Active member
Yeah I got you. More or less where I'm at now too, I'm not even pulling up Iron Podium again until I can achieve a new baseline (physically and mentally).
Hyde
Legend
Got my APAP last night! Wore it for an hour while I finished reading all the manuals to get my feet wet, then successfully wore it all night to sleep. It is definitely something you have to want to submit to, because initially it was terrifying. Very quickly it becomes peaceful though; I didn’t want to take it off this morning.
Normally I am very tired the mornings I train, only getting 6 hours in bed usually. Today I felt way more rested - comparable to mornings I don’t train where I will spend 8-9 hours in bed. My AHI was 18.7 events per hour during my sleep study. Last night I averaged just 1.2!!!
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^How I feel making these sick accelerated recovery gains
Normally I am very tired the mornings I train, only getting 6 hours in bed usually. Today I felt way more rested - comparable to mornings I don’t train where I will spend 8-9 hours in bed. My AHI was 18.7 events per hour during my sleep study. Last night I averaged just 1.2!!!
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^How I feel making these sick accelerated recovery gains
Hyde
Legend
3/22/24
Psoas stretch w/ side bends
Cat Camels
Hamstring stretch
Beltsquat
90 2x15
140 2x12
190x12
Leg Extension
90 3x20
ss w/ Lying Leg Curl
90 3x12
Standing Abs
40 2x25
GHD Sit-ups
2x10
Reverse Hyper
180 2x20
Rotator Angels
Band Pullaparts, Flyes, Presses
Very pleased with how my back is recovering. Working on my mobility obviously first, then traction & knee tissue tolerance, challenging them to push forward hard and build the weakness that predicated this back injury. Then some more lower accessory, more traction, & shoulder mobility.
Only had some coffee before this easy fasted session - feeling good!
Psoas stretch w/ side bends
Cat Camels
Hamstring stretch
Beltsquat
90 2x15
140 2x12
190x12
Leg Extension
90 3x20
ss w/ Lying Leg Curl
90 3x12
Standing Abs
40 2x25
GHD Sit-ups
2x10
Reverse Hyper
180 2x20
Rotator Angels
Band Pullaparts, Flyes, Presses
Very pleased with how my back is recovering. Working on my mobility obviously first, then traction & knee tissue tolerance, challenging them to push forward hard and build the weakness that predicated this back injury. Then some more lower accessory, more traction, & shoulder mobility.
Only had some coffee before this easy fasted session - feeling good!
SkRaw85
Legend
I’m creeping up on you thick boyz
Hyde
Legend
Probably not (not for the moment anyway), as I want to see how this affects sleep/recovery initially.
I did inject 500mg of L-Carnitine with a high carb meal today; I opened a new bottle from a different peptide site and it is the thinnest/smoothest I’ve used yet. I used a 27g and it was absolutely flowing like pure bac water would. Typical l-carn PIP, but hoping I can get myself to keep up that routine for now.
Today is 10 weeks of cruising no more than 180mg test e/wk.
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
I am ignorant to the benefits of L-Carnitine (which auto corrected to carnitas and Caribbean) so that’s fun. I tried the oral and got nothing from it. I understand the oral bioavailability is garbage. But as a power lifter what do you gain from it?
Hyde
Legend
Carnitine is a branched non-essential amino acid your body makes on its own - it is fundamentally necessary for fat mobilization. It transports fats to the mitochondria of cells to be broken down for ATP, energy. Think about injecting exogenous carnitine as hiring a bigger crew to shovel more coal faster to the furnaces of a steam engine. If you are doing the work and creating an energy deficit, you can use burn fat for energy while sparing muscle glycogen stores. It also helps fuel transport in the brain as well, not just the muscles, so it has a mild positive nootropic quality as well.
So taken pre-training, it will provide more muscle endurance. If you inject 3-500mg preWO, it will be obvious that you will be able to tolerate more total sets before exhaustion. This can be useful for someone trying to get more work in. Especially if consumed with a bunch of pre/intra carbs. Your fuel goes further.
For someone dieting, carnitine before training or cardio makes their fat loss during it more successful, while sparing more muscle & helping them hang in their.
For someone doing heavy low volume strength training, taking it post workout or on off-days with the highest carb meal is going to help a little bit to improve recovery from that meal.
L-carnitine helps scrub the AR - it helps androgens that have bound & transcribed unbind sooner, so they can get back into circulation and find another AR to bind to faster. This makes your hormones (both natural test or exogenous steroids) ‘do more’ per mg before getting excreted.
It has some definite interaction with Thyroid. Based on the better composition it tends to promote over time, I would say it’s overall positive. But I don’t really understand it.
It improves male fertility by improving mitochondrial health of your sperm. Definitely want this when trying to get your woman pregnant.
If you are using Cardarine ever, that exhausts carnitine stores. So supplementing helps keep it working better.
It works much better in the presence of sodium and insulin to help transport it. So taking with carbs, amino acids, or a salted drink is ideal (or injecting exogenous insulin).
TLDR - it can support recovery, anabolism, fat loss, endurance on a foundational level.
PolishHamm3r77
Well-known member
You Sir are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for that explanation I am currently taking 10mg of Cardarine/ day. Sounds like carnitine would have a nice synergistic effect.
akboom87
Well-known member
Yeah I bet the initial putting that on and thinking about sleep is a little overwhelming at first but sounds like a hell of an improvement!! I was kinda thinking the bane mask.
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Electrake
Active member
Tom Hardy is the ****. Him as Bane, and in Lawless, are 2 of my top 3 performances. Top is Christian Bale in American Psycho
BennyMagoo79
Well-known member
How does oral supplementation compare with injecting it typically?
Hyde
Legend
Taken in at least 4 grams daily over 3 doses, oral L-Carn does provide some of the AR scrubbing benefit I believe. But otherwise, what they found is the rise in L-Carnitine levels is totally transient; they return to physiological very quickly. It just doesn’t seem to make any practical difference.
Studies on IV use however show l-carn levels reaching and sustaining supraphysiological realms. This does have some positives, as discussed.
On a practical level, it doesn’t compare at all. Eat any number of grams of L-carn before training one day, then inject 2-500mg IM next week before you go in to do the same session. You will be sweating more, getting better pumps, and find yourself doing more sets and exercises before exhaustion.
With the oral, you will just be lucky if you don’t get an upset gut, let alone notice any definitive performance enhancement.
On one hand, it is a hassle. You can’t kiss your wife once it’s on, or pick your nose or adjust or reach anything inside the seal without undoing it and starting all over to retighten it. It’s difficult to even talk with a full mask on. And once you plug the hose in and turn it on, it’s tough to cough or clear your throat. If you need to get up, you have to shut it off and disconnect the hose from your mask so you can go to the bathroom or whatever.
But those are all little things you can learn to work with, and I remind myself it’s not for the rest of my life - just as long as I want to stay big. But for now, I need to do this for my longterm health & performance goals.
And I can also get a nasal pillow mask, where it’s two little nosebuds that deliver oxygen but your mouth & nose are both uncovered. I just get sinus congestion so often from bugs my son brings home from preschool it’s not realistic to use my nose all the time. A full mask lets me switch between nose and mouth breathing as I please.
MrKleen73
Legend
Good info and things to consider. Mine seems to go away around 200-205 if lean, so it wouldn't be forever thing for me either since I intend to size down to something more manageable after these competitions. Of course we will see what all hangs around and how I feel once I reach a look I want to maintain after the shows.
Hyde
Legend
3/24/24
BW 248.4 yesterday
Plate-loaded Shoulder Press Machine
45/side 2x12
70x8
90x6
115x5
135,160,185x3
JM Press
45,65,95,115,135x10
CG Bench
45x15
135x12
185x10
235x8
One-arm Cable Tri Pressdown
22x20,20,16,16,15,13/arm
Pendulum High Row
25/side x15
70 4x16
Seated BB Military
45,65,85,95x15
115x12
ss w/ Band Pullaparts
Mini 3x35
Camber handle Cable Curl
22 2x20
27x20
3rd night in a row successfully wearing the CPAP all night, and it’s definitely been making mornings easier. Between better sleep and the 400mg L-Carnitine I took preWO, I was able to get a lot done in the gym today. Really tried to challenge my elbow since I haven’t in a while; at some point you have to stop worrying about what you can’t do and just try to do what you can. I was surprised by being able to fully touch on closegrip bench. It hurt and I didn’t load it up, but overall there was a bit of progress in ROM on a lot of things I messed with. Back didn’t have a problem on the bench either.
BW 248.4 yesterday
Plate-loaded Shoulder Press Machine
45/side 2x12
70x8
90x6
115x5
135,160,185x3
JM Press
45,65,95,115,135x10
CG Bench
45x15
135x12
185x10
235x8
One-arm Cable Tri Pressdown
22x20,20,16,16,15,13/arm
Pendulum High Row
25/side x15
70 4x16
Seated BB Military
45,65,85,95x15
115x12
ss w/ Band Pullaparts
Mini 3x35
Camber handle Cable Curl
22 2x20
27x20
3rd night in a row successfully wearing the CPAP all night, and it’s definitely been making mornings easier. Between better sleep and the 400mg L-Carnitine I took preWO, I was able to get a lot done in the gym today. Really tried to challenge my elbow since I haven’t in a while; at some point you have to stop worrying about what you can’t do and just try to do what you can. I was surprised by being able to fully touch on closegrip bench. It hurt and I didn’t load it up, but overall there was a bit of progress in ROM on a lot of things I messed with. Back didn’t have a problem on the bench either.
akboom87
Well-known member
Sounds like it’s working quite well and only the third night. Nice looking session and great the back didn’t bother you!
Dustin07
Legend
dude congrats!! nothing better than a good night of rest, nothing worse than no rest. I hope this works out for you through the "big years".