Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

[Hyde]

Man I hope your bronchitis clears up. My wife has been dealing with it for a couple of weeks now. Of course she’s not squatting over 500 lbs for 3 reps though.
385, 407, 429, 451, 473, 501x3, that made my knees hurt just reading that. Looks like the Trest/Tren combo helped overpower that bronchitis. Can’t wait to see your workouts, when those lungs clear up. Trest and Tren alone always cranked up my metabolic furnace and I would always have night sweats. I couldn’t imagine them together, but they will help keep you warm in that cold, and obviously keep the power going up.

It’s going on 4 weeks now so things should be getting better sooner if anything. If not, I have trained the last month this way so I ain’t scared If I stopped training every time I was sick, I would never be able to progress.

Hope your wife gets better fast!

Hope you feel better.

Your log should come with a warning, like warning once entering you will feel a strong call to the darkside.

Thank you.

I think PEDs make a lot of sense for the very serious/lifetime lifter, provided they are done having kids. Fertility can usually be achieved just fine even after anabolic use, but I would always advise against cruising/HRT and avoiding 19-Nors for someone serious about conceiving eventually if you want to keep your odds strong. In your case, you definitely meet the prior stipulation, and possibly the latter.

The thing I wish I understood when I began, other than waiting several years longer to learn more about training & nutrition certainly, is that you can get a lot by just staying on a modest dose of gear. Not all of this excessive blasting up and down. Just put a guy on 300mg of test year round, maybe a touch of primo or deca depending on goals & individual response (eventually), and keep the focus on training & diet periodization. Just turning the dials up on lots of processes, but not relying on the drugs for these large temporary adaptations.

That works a lot better for strongman, CrossFit, fighting, and probably powerlifting. Bodybuilding generally NEEDS more drugs and in more drastic contrast, but performance doesn’t.

You take CrossFit athlete, put them on 2-300mg test/wk, whatever makes their phlebotic values just above top of normal ranges. If they have joint issues or want a bit more size, 50-100mg deca weekly may further aid that if they respond well to volumization. Then load them up on as much L-Carnitine as they will pin, take some GW before your hardest WOD/the one you really push each week, supplement with choline & minerals faithfully, and run some waves of low- moderately dosed Tbol periodically when focusing more on strength. Done.

Extremely low risk for relatively higher increases in output & adaptation over time. You can also get all of that legally with a script or RC site, except the Tbol.

 

[Hyde]

12/1/23 - Day 9
BW 264.2 post training

Miniband Pullaparts
2x25

Band Warmups

Bench
45x10,5,5
135x10
220x8
260x5
300 5x3
260 2x11,10

CG 2-Board Bench
265 2x11

DB Incline
80x12
85x10
90x15

alt w NG Chins
4x10

DB Laterals
30 2x10

DB Rear Delt Raises
30 2x12

Rope Cable Tri Pressdown
22x50

Today sure didn’t feel like a light day, but it is relative to Tuesday. Then again, what else did I expect? Survived another session of the Predator.

 

[Hyde]

My ART guy was asking me about today’s training because he knows I’ve committed towards going after 405. When I broke the workload down he was like holy crap; once he realized the sledgehammer I’m employing he really went after a lot of different stuff like when I was peaking for my last meet. He knows his job right now is just to try to keep me injury-free best he can.

Broke up stuff on my pecs where they insert at the clavicle, my rhomboids, got a lot of stuff at the top of the tricep long head near the insert. It’s crazy how much stuff piles up, and how quickly, when you start pushing hard.

 

[gphagan1]

My ART guy was asking me about today’s training because he knows I’ve committed towards going after 405. When I broke the workload down he was like holy crap; once he realized the sledgehammer I’m employing he really went after a lot of different stuff like when I was peaking for my last meet. He knows his job right now is just to try to keep me injury-free best he can.

Broke up stuff on my pecs where they insert at the clavicle, my rhomboids, got a lot of stuff at the top of the tricep long head near the insert. It’s crazy how much stuff piles up, and how quickly, when you start pushing hard.

Yeah, it’s that constant tear and repair, glad you’ve got a good one though.

 

[Dustin07]

My ART guy was asking me about today’s training because he knows I’ve committed towards going after 405. When I broke the workload down he was like holy crap; once he realized the sledgehammer I’m employing he really went after a lot of different stuff like when I was peaking for my last meet. He knows his job right now is just to try to keep me injury-free best he can.

Broke up stuff on my pecs where they insert at the clavicle, my rhomboids, got a lot of stuff at the top of the tricep long head near the insert. It’s crazy how much stuff piles up, and how quickly, when you start pushing hard.

That actually sounds like a potentially painful session with the ART lol

 

[Hyde]

That actually sounds like a potentially painful session with the ART lol

It’s very similar to the feel of rolling out or using a lax ball on something with a knot, or a jigsaw/theragun massager. It’s a “good kind of hurt,” where things are immediately loosening up after the burn. I always look forward to it.

 

[Hyde]

Day 11
BW 262.4

Weight still coming on nicely. Moved the 500mg primo glute shot from Friday back to Saturday this week, and it will go to Sunday next week so it can be done after deadlifting (so it doesn’t affect that training). No deadlifting or any training today because I have bloodwork Tuesday morning at 7. Been off Mk677 the last few days, and will stay off until after bloods so it’s easier to hit a vein. Also, test is about 187.5mg/day this week because I am finishing a vial and added my Trest/Tren so it can all be administered daily in one slinpin.

Something to note is the profound sense of overall wellbeing I have been noticing. I felt more aggressive the first few days of Tren, but now I feel very calm overall. With my wife, son, work, traffic, everything - it’s like I can appreciate the issues, but they seem outside of me, unimportant in the big scheme. This detachment isn’t like apathy - more like zen, & there is more empathy than ever. I want to be kind to other people, & I have more patience for everything. Not sure if it’s Trest, tren, or the combo at this dosage. Maybe the primo is part of this?

Also, BP is great at 114-124/68-74, but pulse was 95-97 today. Normally it’s 57-64 on cruise.

 

[teamguy312]

Day 11
BW 262.4

Weight still coming on nicely. Moved the 500mg primo glute shot from Friday back to Saturday this week, and it will go to Sunday next week so it can be done after deadlifting (so it doesn’t affect that training). No deadlifting or any training today because I have bloodwork Tuesday morning at 7. Been off Mk677 the last few days, and will stay off until after bloods so it’s easier to hit a vein. Also, test is about 187.5mg/day this week because I am finishing a vial and added my Trest/Tren so it can all be administered daily in one slinpin.

Something to note is the profound sense of overall wellbeing I have been noticing. I felt more aggressive the first few days of Tren, but now I feel very calm overall. With my wife, son, work, traffic, everything - it’s like I can appreciate the issues, but they seem outside of me, unimportant in the big scheme. This detachment isn’t like apathy - more like zen, & there is more empathy than ever. I want to be kind to other people, & I have more patience for everything. Not sure if it’s Trest, tren, or the combo at this dosage. Maybe the primo is part of this?

Also, BP is great at 114-124/68-74, but pulse was 95-97 today. Normally it’s 57-64 on cruise.

I would bet you are right, the primo feel is a real thing. Felt great running up to a gram. What do you attribute the 30+ BPM to? I'm guessing the tren? Never ran it but have heard it's like, thermogenic, etc.

 

[MrKleen73]

It’s very similar to the feel of rolling out or using a lax ball on something with a knot, or a jigsaw/theragun massager. It’s a “good kind of hurt,” where things are immediately loosening up after the burn. I always look forward to it.

Agreed, I love how I feel after getting some good ART done, and as long as things aren't already hypersensitive it is exactly that painful but a good pain that a lot of relief follows. Even the times I was surprised by a tear falling down my cheek were worth it for the amount of recovery which then conditions you to enjoy the pain because you know the reward is coming.

Awesome about the Zen thing, I feel like I have gotten used to the new dose and everything has become more like this. I think part of it was also just becoming aware of it and separating myself from the initial reaction to even get annoyed which has helped immensely because an annoyed mind is not focusing on anything but the annoyance and a clear mind can see a bigger picture. Probably something different than what is going on with you but happy I am handling the increase better now.

 

[Hyde]

I would bet you are right, the primo feel is a real thing. Felt great running up to a gram. What do you attribute the 30+ BPM to? I'm guessing the tren? Never ran it but have heard it's like, thermogenic, etc.

I seem to recall feeling positive the time I cruised with primo added to my test as well.

I know Tren raises pulse anecdotally for others, and I believe Trest does this to me as well - it definitely raises my bp immediately, so does nandrolone, so I think it’s a 19-nor thing in general & specifically with my personal response.

I did fully expect this, but I think this is why I’ve heard people using Trest or Tren for extended periods getting longterm heart problems. It can be like running Clen, where the heart is just always working hard at a background level. These are aggressive tools that should be leveraged sparingly.

Agreed, I love how I feel after getting some good ART done, and as long as things aren't already hypersensitive it is exactly that painful but a good pain that a lot of relief follows. Even the times I was surprised by a tear falling down my cheek were worth it for the amount of recovery which then conditions you to enjoy the pain because you know the reward is coming.

Awesome about the Zen thing, I feel like I have gotten used to the new dose and everything has become more like this. I think part of it was also just becoming aware of it and separating myself from the initial reaction to even get annoyed which has helped immensely because an annoyed mind is not focusing on anything but the annoyance and a clear mind can see a bigger picture. Probably something different than what is going on with you but happy I am handling the increase better now.

Being mindful is definitely a big component. I mean realizing you have a say in how you react is worth a lot - feelings are just signals, not mandates for behavior. Like pain.

 

[gphagan1]

That’s interesting, the Zen feeling that you described. I know with Trest I get this good aggressive feeling, especially when working out or doing anything active, like sports. Tren is one that added gym aggression, but I also had to be careful not to have a short fuse. With Trest, Tren, and Primo all having the potential to uplift your mood or even aggression, drive, energy….I’m sure the synergy between them would definitely have an increased effect, and bring that overall sense of well being. That focus and drive in the gym, is a good tool. I had wondered how running Trest and Tren together would effect your mood, now we know.

 

[Dustin07]

This detachment isn’t like apathy - more like zen, & there is more empathy than ever. I want to be kind to other people, & I have more patience for everything. Not sure if it’s Trest, tren, or the combo at this dosage. Maybe the primo is part of this?

all jokes aside, I really loved that feeling on Ultra Hard. I sorta think it was the androsterone because I haven't been able to quite replicate that "I'm 17 in my first fast car and every day is a sunny day and holy **** that chick is hot, so is that one and that one and that one and I'm young and cool and never gonna die" feeling but I also think it was the andro that gave me those minor sides so I haven't been able to perfectly replicate it.

 

[Hyde]

all jokes aside, I really loved that feeling on Ultra Hard. I sorta think it was the androsterone because I haven't been able to quite replicate that "I'm 17 in my first fast car and every day is a sunny day and holy **** that chick is hot, so is that one and that one and that one and I'm young and cool and never gonna die" feeling but I also think it was the andro that gave me those minor sides so I haven't been able to perfectly replicate it.

Androsterone definitely produces a great mood and sense of wellbeing for me, it’s actually near the top of the list for compounds known for that.

 

[Hyde]

12/5/23 - Day 13

Miniband Pullaparts
2x25

Band warmup

Bench
205x8
245x6
280x5
320x3
330,340 2x2
260x11,9

Low Incline
45x10
135,185x5
235 3x4

Bloodwork this morning, and took a 50mg Anadrol immediately after to help survive this heavy bench day. Making some quick strides pushing on this program, but it is a tough mother. Incline bench just destroyed my elbow, worst than last week, so db pressing or any further pressing was out - I will be subbing incline bench for something else going forward.

Ran out of time due to starting late after my bloodwork, but will make up the lats & plate raises tomorrow.

 

[gphagan1]

12/5/23 - Day 13

Bench
205x8
245x6
280x5
320x3
330,340 2x2
260x11,9

Low Incline
45x10
135,185x5
235 3x4

Bloodwork this morning, and took a 50mg Anadrol immediately after to help survive this heavy bench day. Making some quick strides pushing on this program, but it is a tough mother. Incline bench just destroyed my elbow, worst than last week, so db pressing or any further pressing was out - I will be subbing incline bench for something else going forward.

Ran out of time due to starting late after my bloodwork, but will make up the lats & plate raises tomorrow.

You’re still pushing some good bench numbers, even while dealing with the elbow. Hopefully that elbow clears up, but it looks like the Predator program is working for you, and was the right program to go crush a 405 bench.

 

[Hyde]

You’re still pushing some good bench numbers, even while dealing with the elbow. Hopefully that elbow clears up, but it looks like the Predator program is working for you, and was the right program to go crush a 405 bench.

Elbow is totally fine if I don’t push the flexion ROM beyond what it can handle, but incline simply does this even with my middle finger on the ring (wider than my comp grip even). This is why I can’t do overhead press at all currently.

That being said, ART doc is making some further headway still slowly on my elbow - he just yesterday finally worked on the anchor point where my tendon was reattached to the forearm. As long as upstream stuff was too adhered, it wouldn’t have helped, but now that so much has been removed from along my bicep him working the attachment immediately resolved some pain during supination I’ve had for 4 years now. I could feel a difference on bench today, probably gave me a finger-width closer I can press again if I choose. It all adds up.

 

[MrKleen73]

Elbow is totally fine if I don’t push the flexion ROM beyond what it can handle, but incline simply does this even with my middle finger on the ring (wider than my comp grip even). This is why I can’t do overhead press at all currently.

That being said, ART doc is making some further headway still slowly on my elbow - he just yesterday finally worked on the anchor point where my tendon was reattached to the forearm. As long as upstream stuff was too adhered, it wouldn’t have helped, but now that so much has been removed from along my bicep him working the attachment immediately resolved some pain during supination I’ve had for 4 years now. I could feel a difference on bench today, probably gave me a finger-width closer I can press again if I choose. It all adds up.

Yep, little steps in improvement stack up and can take you a long way.

 

[Hyde]

12/6/23 - Day 14
BW 259.4

Reverse Hypers
270 3x25

Widegrip Lat Pulldown
70,110x12
150 4x15

Hi Bar Squat
45 2x5
155,245,315x5
+deadlift belt
355 5x5

Williams Plate Raise to Overhead
45 4x15

Cable Bar Tri Pressdown
40 4x25

Nothing wild, just some easy squats & reverse hypers and the bench accessories I ran out of time for yesterday. Decided I really want to put all of my recovery & focus into this bench prep, so I am keeping lower body minimalist for the moment. Eyes on the prize.

Woke up light today after undereating from that tab of Anadrol yesterday, but I did a better job today putting in the time at the table.

 

[SkRaw85]

Can you explain Tate plate raise to overhead please

 

[MrKleen73]

Can you explain Tate plate raise to overhead please

Yes, at the end of every rep you say "I am Top G!"

 

[SkRaw85]

Yes, at the end of every rep you say "I am Top G!"

 

[Hyde]

Can you explain Tate plate raise to overhead please

lol I see what you did there.

The funny thing is, if you read Big Jim Williams’ book, he did those plate raises almost every day (like benching). They were a serious part of his foundational delt volume. But he barely mentions the tricep extensions with the elbows turned out. Dave Tate may have gotten that idea from Williams, but Tate really did popularize them inadvertently. Jim on the other hand actually called the plate raises past his forehead Williams Raises; dude called dibs on that one!

 

[Hyde]

12/8/23 - Day 16
BW 267.4 post workout

Miniband Pullaparts
2x35

Band Warmups

Bench
45,45,135,205,245x8
280x5
315 5x3
225x20

ss w/ DB Laterals
30x12
35x10

CG 2-Board Bench
245x12,9
225x12

alt w NG Chins
4x10

DB Incline
85x12
90x10
95x15

COOKED after this one. Able to get my hands within an inch of the smooth for close-grip to the 2-board now after some recent developments in my ART therapy. Pretty weak there compared to being an inch or two wider, but should mean I can get some great carryover if I can build that deficit up.

Dbs are also very difficult to get into position, but then too light to do much real work. Still, seems worthwhile to improve them as I can, so I have been.

Been feeling a bit dry, so I increased test from 180 to 210/wk yesterday. This is also so I can use an even 0.1ml/day when I mix my weekly Trest/Tren/Test blend, aka the Triforce

 

[MrKleen73]

Congrats on being able to move your CG in closer. That is a big development for you!

 

[Hyde]

Congrats on being able to move your CG in closer. That is a big development for you!

Thank you, it definitely is. The way it loads the tricep with that very close grip is truly unique, and probably more important than trying to touch to a 1-board at the moment.

 

[Hyde]

Day 17
BW 263.4

Up 16lbs since this began, so things are going well in that department. Not sure where my bench max is at right now, but I have survived all of the bench work as planned so far on the Predator.

Waiting on final blood work results for CBC & lipids still, but my liver, kidney, mineral, blood sugar, prostate, thyroid, and vitamin D levels are great. I raised my daily D3 intake from 12,000iu to 22,000 and levels went from 47 to 60, so I can probably go much higher still (ideal range is 30-100). My fasting glucose and thyroid are insane on the GW, Trest, & Tren, which corroborates how I am ripping through so much fuel so easily.

My ferritin (which effectively shows your available iron levels) is very low still from donating 3 months ago (~25 I believe), so hoping my blood isn’t getting too thick because I am not even close to being able to donate safely. This is why you need to do bloodwork and not mindlessly donate like they beg you to - remember, that service is still a business. I need to start eating steaks routinely again. I have not used any IP6 in eons, just not been consuming red meat as a staple.

 

[akboom87]

Day 17
BW 263.4

Up 16lbs since this began, so things are going well in that department. Not sure where my bench max is at right now, but I have survived all of the bench work as planned so far on the Predator.

Waiting on final blood work results for CBC & lipids still, but my liver, kidney, mineral, blood sugar, prostate, thyroid, and vitamin D levels are great. I raised my daily D3 intake from 12,000iu to 22,000 and levels went from 47 to 60, so I can probably go much higher still (ideal range is 30-100). My fasting glucose and thyroid are insane on the GW, Trest, & Tren, which corroborates how I am ripping through so much fuel so easily.

My ferritin (which effectively shows your available iron levels) is very low still from donating 3 months ago (~25 I believe), so hoping my blood isn’t getting too thick because I am not even close to being able to donate safely. This is why you need to do bloodwork and not mindlessly donate like they beg you to - remember, that service is still a business. I need to start eating steaks routinely again. I have not used any IP6 in eons, just not been consuming red meat as a staple.

Beef liver can be a great way to add extra iron in. That is of course if you like it

 

[Hyde]

12/10/23 - Day 18

KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift

Seated DB Rear Delt Raises
30 2x15

Above-Knee Blockpull (22” bar height)
155,245x5
335,425x2
475x1
+belt & straps
525,565x1
585x10

SSB Pause Squat, beltless
65,175x3
285 2x8

Williams Plate Raises
55 3x10

RDL, beltless
225x3
+straps
265x20

4-Mat Deficit Deadlift, beltless
265x2
315x15

HS CSR
45,90x15
115x12
135x10
160x6

GHR
BWx15

Reverse Hypers
360 5x15

ss w/ Rolling EZBar Tri Ext
+0,20,50x15
+70 2x15

V-bar Cable Tri Pressdown
30x100

Pec Wall Stretch, Couch Stretch

Haven’t endured a 3-hour session in a long time, so I was pleased with that. Not that I believe that’s optimal; it’s just what it took to get the work in (plus accessories I missed on Friday). Took a little fortitude to gut it out.

 

[MrKleen73]

Those ones you gutted out are often some of the most appreciated ones once you finish. Rest up and fuel up. Like I have to tell you that. LOL

 

[gphagan1]

Yeah, that looks like that was a long workout. You left it all at the gym with that one.

 

[rascal14]

Do you guys prefer traditional straps or versa grip style?

Trying to come up with Xmas gift ideas for people to get me.. don’t have any hobbies so stuck for ideas lol

 

[Dustin07]

Bench
45,45,135,205,245x8
280x5
315 5x3
225x20

ss w/ DB Laterals
30x12
35x10

I've never thought of SS'ing db laterals with bench, I think because I try to preserve the shoulders until I'm ready to hammer them. how did this go? do you like that combo?

Haven’t endured a 3-hour session in a long time, so I was pleased with that. Not that I believe that’s optimal; it’s just what it took to get the work in (plus accessories I missed on Friday). Took a little fortitude to gut it out.

killer session. Love me some good long ones but that is crazy long. Did you run any juice/candy intraWO or something or is the gear enough to keep you firing on all 8 cylinders for 3hrs?

 

[SkRaw85]

Beef liver can be a great way to add extra iron in. That is of course if you like it

 

[SkRaw85]

12/10/23 - Day 18

KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift

Seated DB Rear Delt Raises
30 2x15

Above-Knee Blockpull (22” bar height)
155,245x5
335,425x2
475x1
+belt & straps
525,565x1
585x10

SSB Pause Squat, beltless
65,175x3
285 2x8

Williams Plate Raises
55 3x10

RDL, beltless
225x3
+straps
265x20

4-Mat Deficit Deadlift, beltless
265x2
315x15

HS CSR
45,90x15
115x12
135x10
160x6

GHR
BWx15

Reverse Hypers
360 5x15

ss w/ Rolling EZBar Tri Ext
+0,20,50x15
+70 2x15

V-bar Cable Tri Pressdown
30x100

Pec Wall Stretch, Couch Stretch

Haven’t endured a 3-hour session in a long time, so I was pleased with that. Not that I believe that’s optimal; it’s just what it took to get the work in (plus accessories I missed on Friday). Took a little fortitude to gut it out.

Total gym workout lol. Got dang man!

 

[MrKleen73]

Do you guys prefer traditional straps or versa grip style?

Trying to come up with Xmas gift ideas for people to get me.. don’t have any hobbies so stuck for ideas lol

I definitely prefer a versa gripps style grip. Much easier to cinch in tight, judge equal distance between hands, and just easier to use plus can be used for wrist support during pressing. They are really helpful in this respect on days my wrists want to bite me it stops it immediately if I put them on.

 

[Dustin07]

I feel like I'm the only person in the world that likes beef liver

 

[SkRaw85]

I feel like I'm the only person in the world that likes beef liver

Just you and liver king

 

[akboom87]

I feel like I'm the only person in the world that likes beef liver

Nope! I’m a big fan of it. I also buy local ground beef that has liver mixed in as well as just a good slab of liver!

 

[Hyde]

Do you guys prefer traditional straps or versa grip style?

Traditional: flip a single revolution, crank once to tighten, and go.

I also do not need straps on any machine work of any kind, or any free weight pressing/holding. Only some free weight pulling/rowing.

I've never thought of SS'ing db laterals with bench, I think because I try to preserve the shoulders until I'm ready to hammer them. how did this go? do you like that combo?

killer session. Love me some good long ones but that is crazy long. Did you run any juice/candy intraWO or something or is the gear enough to keep you firing on all 8 cylinders for 3hrs?

Pressing is basically all front delt, so super setting the side work didn’t cost me strength. I needed several minutes between heavy sets of bench regardless, so I was already recovered from laterals as long as I did them as soon as I finished a set of bench.

I ran 100% more intra than usual. Normally I do 1 big rice krispy treat on the drive & drink 50-75g Karbolyn intra. Been adding a second krispy sometimes lately. For this I ate a cliffbar at home, had my normal drive krispy, drank 100g Karbolyn, and had another Krispy mid workout. You gotta pack your lunch for sessions like this.

Total gym workout lol. Got dang man!

Damn right

 

[sammpedd88]

Do you guys prefer traditional straps or versa grip style?

Trying to come up with Xmas gift ideas for people to get me.. don’t have any hobbies so stuck for ideas lol

After using Versa grips I’ll never go back to traditional straps.

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

Traditional: flip a single revolution, crank once to tighten, and go.

I also do not need straps on any machine work of any kind, or any free weight pressing/holding. Only some free weight pulling/rowing.



Pressing is basically all front delt, so super setting the side work didn’t cost me strength. I needed several minutes between heavy sets of bench regardless, so I was already recovered from laterals as long as I did them as soon as I finished a set of bench.

I ran 100% more intra than usual. Normally I do 1 big rice krispy treat on the drive & drink 50-75g Karbolyn intra. Been adding a second krispy sometimes lately. For this I ate a cliffbar at home, had my normal drive krispy, drank 100g Karbolyn, and had another Krispy mid workout. You gotta pack your lunch for sessions like this.



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Damn right

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

I’ve been w the same girl since 98. Sufficed to say, my grip strength is STRONG!!!

 

[Hyde]

12/11/23 - Day 19
BW 266.8

Took my third shot of 500mg primo yesterday, and ate like I’m trying to become heavier than ever. Up a full 19lbs from start with the help of Mk677 water weight.

Lipids came back & LDL has dropped 53.6% from March, from 170s down to 82. Thanks to 5mg Ezetimibe since then, 10mg GW the last 6 weeks, my nutraceutical regiment, and not using any SARMs that caused the massive elevation in the first place. Trigs are also lower than ever at 79, likely due to GW. Usually around 90s. HDL is only 29…but really, what do you expect? Nothing is without cost, especially steroids.

My CBC sample was clotted, so no idea how thick my blood is but…with ferritin sub 30, I cannot even consider donation, so I will have to raise it with diet first. I have been doing lots of frequent dairy and polyphenol intake throughout the day for many months now, which is surely the culprit combined with lower iron food. I will need to eat red meat frequently and away from dairy or support supplements.

 

[Dustin07]

Pressing is basically all front delt, so super setting the side work didn’t cost me strength. I needed several minutes between heavy sets of bench regardless, so I was already recovered from laterals as long as I did them as soon as I finished a set of bench.

makes sense, I think I just usually treat it same as deads, where I don't pre fatigue my biceps until after I'm done. I just realized i do often warm up with 10lb plates for laterals and forwards, and snatch at times, and will throw them inbetween my warm up sets to really get things flowing.

I ran 100% more intra than usual. Normally I do 1 big rice krispy treat on the drive & drink 50-75g Karbolyn intra. Been adding a second krispy sometimes lately. For this I ate a cliffbar at home, had my normal drive krispy, drank 100g Karbolyn, and had another Krispy mid workout. You gotta pack your lunch for sessions like this.

solid, I like the idea of the krispy treat. I have been known to toss in an orange juice and keep gummy bears in my gym bag. lately I've been on a cranberry kick. I'm craving a good 2-3hr gym session though. trying to get one together with my normal lifting buddy and my boy one of these weekends.

Took my third shot of 500mg primo yesterday, and ate like I’m trying to become heavier than ever. Up a full 19lbs from start with the help of Mk677 water weight.

on your last bulk eating became like work, how is that going for you right now?

 

[Hyde]

on your last bulk eating became like work, how is that going for you right now?

Like f*cking work

As soon as I added the 20mg Tren, appetite dropped hard. But I also think 5,000 calories is just a lot to process consistently - I have regained 19lbs in 19 days.

 

[Hyde]

12/12/23 - Day 20
BW 269.0 Post-Training

Miniband Pullaparts
2x25

Band Warmups

Bench
45,135,201x8
245x6
285x5
320 5x3
285x10,8

Spoto Press
285x5
295 2x3

NG DB Bench
105x10,8,6,6

Widegrip Lat Pulldown
80,120x12
160 4x10

Williams Plate Raises
55 3x12

Rope Cable Tri Pressdown
30x40

Pec Corner Stretch

Took an Anadrol50 about 2 hours before bench today. This was the first day 320 has felt light, that explosive AAS-driven “pop” anyone who’s ever used orals will understand. Which is good, because this is now the lighter day going forward in the Predator. For context, today I was able to rep 285x10 easily after 5 triples at 320; 21 days ago I did 275x10 as my top set after triples at 275.

Seeing some progress with my elbow ROM in my ability to do the neutral closegrip db benching now. My ART doctor was also very pleased with my ability to do pushups again. There’s a lot less compensatory shoulder-rolling and I’m not getting forearm pain either, so we’re bringing them back into my training some.

 

[MrKleen73]

I feel like I'm the only person in the world that likes beef liver

You are definitely one of the few. If I want sand in my mouth, I will go to the beach.

Just you and liver king

Now we are just insulting people eh?

@Hyde, congrats on the recent bench, and ART/Elbow progress. Also, gaining 1lb a day is HUGELY impressive.

 

[Dustin07]

You are definitely one of the few. If I want sand in my mouth, I will go to the beach.

lol my thinking was more chalky than sandy but yeah I get it lol.
my wife made a ton of liver meatballs one time as a way to try to get herself to eat liver. she couldn't stand them so I got to eat all of them, I was in heaven

but I am a fat kid at heart. being lean isn't as easy as eating food for me

 

[gphagan1]

12/12/23 - Day 20
BW 269.0 Post-Training

Miniband Pullaparts
2x25

Band Warmups

Bench
45,135,201x8
245x6
285x5
320 5x3
285x10,8

Spoto Press
285x5
295 2x3

NG DB Bench
105x10,8,6,6

Widegrip Lat Pulldown
80,120x12
160 4x10

Williams Plate Raises
55 3x12

Rope Cable Tri Pressdown
30x40

Pec Corner Stretch

Took an Anadrol50 about 2 hours before bench today. This was the first day 320 has felt light, that explosive AAS-driven “pop” anyone who’s ever used orals will understand. Which is good, because this is now the lighter day going forward in the Predator. For context, today I was able to rep 285x10 easily after 5 triples at 320; 21 days ago I did 275x10 as my top set after triples at 275.

Seeing some progress with my elbow ROM in my ability to do the neutral closegrip db benching now. My ART doctor was also very pleased with my ability to do pushups again. There’s a lot less compensatory shoulder-rolling and I’m not getting forearm pain either, so we’re bringing them back into my training some.

Glad the ART is helping with your ROM….that should continue to make a world of difference in training, especially your bench. Yeah orals can definitely put you in the zone quick. My problem is I just have to be careful when I start blasting through a workout when it’s easier than anticipated, because I get fired up and my old butt will over do it if I’m not careful. But it looks like this cycle has really been a good one for you, and all the gear is working good together. With as quickly as you added back your weight, and adding Anadrol pre workout to your Trifecta (Test, Tren, Trest) stack, I see your strength and power exploding through a lot of workouts, and probably benching more than 405 when all is said and done. I’ve actually never tried the Predator workout, but I like the way it sounds.

 

[Hyde]

Glad the ART is helping with your ROM….that should continue to make a world of difference in training, especially your bench. Yeah orals can definitely put you in the zone quick. My problem is I just have to be careful when I start blasting through a workout when it’s easier than anticipated, because I get fired up and my old butt will over do it if I’m not careful. But it looks like this cycle has really been a good one for you, and all the gear is working good together. With as quickly as you added back your weight, and adding Anadrol pre workout to your Trifecta (Test, Tren, Trest) stack, I see your strength and power exploding through a lot of workouts, and probably benching more than 405 when all is said and done. I’ve actually never tried the Predator workout, but I like the way it sounds.

Thankfully the workouts are very challenging for me - it’s a lot of work that is exhausting to get through. So it’s really just that the absolute strength is rising quickly that I need to watch. Ie, during the actual sets I try to be very mindful of not straining & only doing what needs to be done to improve, not trying to hit failure. But I have to keep willing myself onwards to get all of the total sets in. These are full 2-hour sessions.

I also did a ton of very heavy bench work for months on end up until only 9 weeks ago, taking ~95% singles at least every other week. So would like to hope only 6 weeks off heavy training would still have my tendons reasonably conditioned for hard efforts.