LucasBagoDoce
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I’d give it a try
Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2023 Edition)
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thescience
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i'll need to know if an official notice of intended release for the prime resurrection ever surfaces, at least a week in advance. I have some ideas to shake the apple tree
sns8778
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On my end, everything is good to go. I have everything lined up with the raw materials and already have a finished product quote. I'll start working on label text later this week or the weekend to get to our designer and could probably have finished label proofs by the end of next week.
The biggest thing right now for me is going to be coming up with a name.
I would be open to using Primal in the name, but not Primal XT - just out of respect and to avoid confusion with Primal.
Primal-T is taken and Prime-T is taken.
I thought about simply calling it Prime XT.
I'm open to anyone's suggestions.
thescience
Well-known member
ok. im on it.
thescience
Well-known member
i thought the aqua would be cool, but it looks like the name is definately going to be primish. Primed comes to mind
sns8778
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The reason I'm wanting to more wordplay off of Prime is because most people don't know the ingredient itself by name, they know the products Prime and Primal, and many people that like them don't even know what ingredient is in them.
And I've seen cases where when people see Tribulus Aquaticus, they assume its like Tribulus Terrestris and just dismiss the ingredient - so my thought was that probably any association with Trib in the name would hurt more than help.
TommyTuffGuy
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SNS Primer featuring AquaTrib
Get the Prime goons and the Trib lovers.
Get the Prime goons and the Trib lovers.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I appreciate the suggestion.
My worry had been that people would confuse it with Tribulus Terrestris, when they really aren't at all alike. I know in one way, that could be good in the case of people that really like Tribulus, but I was worried that it could make some people dismiss it thinking its just basic Tribulus.
Kind of like how Creatinol O Phosphate was a good ingredient but people just assumed bc of the name that it was Creatine.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
That was my possible plan for a fallback name if can't think of anything else.
thescience
Well-known member
so true. to this day the confusion persists between TA and TT
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Absolutely. I remember even back when they originally launched the product a lot of people thought it was just an overpriced Tribulus Terrestris product and didn't realize that Aquaticus is completely different. If I remember correctly, they really aren't even closely related at all.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
I second that. I haven’t taken the other two supplements mentioned but if it’s coming from one of your companies, Steve, I’d try it in a heartbeat!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
We have a lot of really cool things coming out later this year - I'm not good at doing the pre-hype thing like some companies are - but we've got some really exciting things coming out including a new natural anabolic product that should be out within the next few weeks.
thescience
Well-known member
you may feel free to elaborate
BigGame84
Well-known member
Could this be PeptiStrong XT?
N2ofusion
Active member
Would the tribulus aqua only be a solo release or stacked with some other goodies like S7, etc?
I didn’t try the USP one so it doesn’t have any special place in my heart. But as a consumer if I saw “Prime XT” I’d think it was on par with Anabolic XT, etc. In to try either way just some thoughts.
I didn’t try the USP one so it doesn’t have any special place in my heart. But as a consumer if I saw “Prime XT” I’d think it was on par with Anabolic XT, etc. In to try either way just some thoughts.
sns8778
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We do have a product coming out that will be using PeptiStrong that I'm very excited about because I love the science behind the ingredient, but the name of the product will not be PeptiStrong. Nuritas doesn't want the ingredient name used in the product name; plus there will also be more ingredients in the product than PeptiStrong. It will be a complete really cool formula.
Growth Factor XT is in the production process right now too, so the new version of that will be out hopefully within the next month or so.
We also have a really interesting and unique natural anabolic that will be coming out under CEL later this year.
We have a lot of cool and exciting things coming up. There are multiple new releases scheduled under all of the brands between now and the end of the year.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thank you for the feedback.
The dosage requirement for Tribulus Aquaticus makes it difficult to add other ingredients to it because the best dosage is 2400 mg. twice per day; so at 800 mg. per capsule, that is 3 capsules twice per day. And at 800 mg. there really isn't any room to fit anything else in the capsule so the only way to add anything else would be to go over 6 caps per day.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thanks for the suggestion. My worry with including Tribulus in the name is that people would assume its Tribulus Terrestris or not understand the difference.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I've never been one to pre-hype things like a lot of other companies. Probably one, because I'm better at science over marketing; and two, its always hard to give exact launch dates bc across the brands we have over 100 sku's total so its a constant balancing act trying to keep things in stock, increase inventory levels on existing products, and come out with new things.
If all goes well, the ones that I know should be out between now and then end of year include a new natural anabolic under SNS, a very unique natural anabolic under CEL, a nighttime fat burner under SNS, the new Growth Factor XT under SNS, a performance and endurance enhancing fat burner under CEL, and then multiple Health Series products - Cholesterol Support XT, Prostate Support XT, Libido Boost XT, and maybe a few more.
Also, flavored powder products in the works are SNS Daily Gains, a very unique mega dosed intra from CEL, an Intra/EAA under SNS that will be more along the lines of a regular intra/EAA with a few additions but still very cost effective. Stim Edge and Super Swole powders under CEL are ready to go into production as the flavors are already approved; they just keep getting pushed back because we have so many different projects going on at once.
And we've just started the flavor sampling process towards doing a protein powder.
sammpedd88
Well-known member
How does the new anabolic product compare to AXT? You’ve really got my attention now!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
The challenge of having so many products and still trying to come out with exciting new products is always being able to make new and exciting ones that aren't just competing with existing products that we already have.
Anabolic XT imo stands completely alone in terms of effectiveness, how it works, and the variety of benefits it offers.
The natural anabolic coming up in a couple of weeks works completely differently than Anabolic XT, so it wouldn't be fair to compare the two bc they don't work the same way at all - but would make a great stack.
If I had to compare it with something, it would be more in the category of Phosphatidic Acid XT than Anabolic XT, and I think ti will make for an incredible stack with either or both of those.
The natural anabolic coming up later in the year under CEL is very unique and it works differently itself than any of the other products and in a way differently than anything else available. It will cover aspects that are included in some existing products on the market but it evolves them and makes them part of an overall much more comprehensive formula to target things from a lot of different angles. As cool as that will be, it still doesn't compare to Anabolic XT because it will work differently and through different pathways.
As things grow, I feel that between the brands we really do already cover natural anabolics and muscle builders from a variety of different angles and will continue to add in more options - with the goal being for the brands to be a complete one stop shop for the best natural anabolics and muscle builders on the market.
warnerve
Well-known member
This makes sense…I’ll definitely try this one out at some point but I didn’t have the context from the forum I would definitely ignore a new trib product, a lot of bad stigma there.
sns8778
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Yeah, that's what I'm worried about in general so that's why I wanted to wordplay off the name Prime rather than any mention of Tribulus Aquaticus.
I do like Tribulus Terrestris for libido - some companies just overhyped it years ago and it made some people have a bad perception of it. Our Tribulus-750 sells well and people that use it love it, but I definitely want to avoid confusion and want it to be clear that the Tribulus Aquaticus product won't have any relation to a Tribulus Terrestris one.
Hyde
Legend
Primalbolan XT
Primabol XT
These make zero sense to me from the perspective of the brand’s image, but I want you to know the 7 year old in me greatly appreciates a Transformers-themed lineup
Primabol XT
These make zero sense to me from the perspective of the brand’s image, but I want you to know the 7 year old in me greatly appreciates a Transformers-themed lineup
sns8778
Board Sponsor
I don't think there's any use putting that in there as its not really much to it imo. USP had a tendency to do prop blends and I'm not a fan of that; but I think they did it and threw small doses of some obscure things in there to make it harder to copy at the time.
When Precision's Primal came out and people said they were getting the same results from it as from the original Prime, there was none of that ingredient in Primal.
I mean, we could throw some in there but honestly it would just be for marketing as I don't think it actually does anything; that's why I was avoiding it.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Ha. Great wordplay. I imagine the lawsuit from Transformers would get us some free advertising haha
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Since this thread has gotten some activity and discussion back to it - I'll ask a question to everyone for opinions.
Would people like for me to update them on upcoming projects?
I like discussing things and getting input and excitement, I just hate being beat up over release dates when I always say up front that when juggling so many products as we have, sometimes things are just going to get pushed back sometimes.
Would people like for me to update them on upcoming projects?
I like discussing things and getting input and excitement, I just hate being beat up over release dates when I always say up front that when juggling so many products as we have, sometimes things are just going to get pushed back sometimes.
jh1
Member
Definitely would like to see updates on the upcoming projects
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thanks. Sometimes it feels like since I'm more straight forward about new products and realistic results and don't try to overhype the heck out of them, it can be discouraging because sometimes they don't get the attention that other companies do bc of the way they hype theirs. On my end, I'm just not comfortable with doing things that way - I'm more focused on the products actually working and delivering results than I am on trying to oversell the hype of things.
jh1
Member
Your products don't need hype. They're well researched, well formulated and well priced. And they deliver results. Can't wait to see what the new anabolics look like.
Brianmc83
Member
Yes please keep us updated on upcoming projects
Hyde
Legend
Just understand you’re opening yourself up to the inevitable whining from randoms about why X isn’t done or Y was never delivered.
I cannot believe some of the posts from adult men on this board complaining about how stuff isn’t out. Like that could possibly make anything better for anyone, even themselves (but it can’t, because they’ll still be bitter & the product won’t be out so you can’t make money on it). I get being excited, I get being disappointed, but inevitably there’s going to be people that will go too far who are just immature.
So be ready for that small percentage of cry babies. And if what I’m saying offends anyone reading this, then you probably needed to hear it.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
It's frustrating sometimes seeing certain things get so much talk and hype here and then some releases we do, they may sell well, but people don't really talk about them much.
The products selling is the main thing from a business perspective, but discussion and feedback does help increase awareness; and it can just be discouraging sometimes seeing some of the things that do get hype, especially the ones that are pretty much BS.
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
I'll try to get together an update post for this thread or possibly a thread about it. I haven't posted as many threads lately in general because it seems like interaction here has gone down a lot.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Very well said. Thank you.
I absolutely get people being excited and happy and anticipating new things - there are products that I look forward to coming out or being back in stock myself; but like you said, it amazes me how some will complain to the point of it being like badgering us about things. I've often said - we're the ones that are losing money every single day that existing products are out of stock and I'm the one that has money tied up in a ton of new products from the moment the process starts - paying graphic designers, buying labels, ordering raw materials, etc. No one, absolutely no one wants products to be in stock more than I do or for new things to come out more than I do - but its a business and we don't have unlimited funds, so sometimes decisions have to be made to push back a new release in process to prioritize a restock on an existing good seller. That's just life for a company like us that has over 100 sku's across the brands and is a small business and doesn't have huge financial backing or a huge marketing budget.
I do the absolute best I can do and I care about people and never want to disappoint anyone or let anyone down - but I think that's the thing, I think I care about that too much sometimes - in the sense that I let being badgered on here bother me more than it should and bring me down more in my life than it should. At one time, it was all the complaining about out of stocks. Lately, its been some other issues on here - things that have happened either openly or behind the scenes, and I try to be so nice and respectful that I just let stuff go. I have been very close to stopping posting on here bc of some things recently, and that's been a talk I've been having with myself trying to figure things out - I have to stop letting things here discourage me and bother me so much outside of the forums and some of the stuff from other brands here, I either have to stop being here or stop being so nice about some of the BS that has happened lately.
WhatsaBench
New member
Another one for updates, at the very least it makes it easier to plan out what I need to buy.
akboom87
Well-known member
Also pretty excited about the part I underlined!!
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thanks. I'm excited about the protein too.
Doing a protein has always been kind of a scary decision for me because its one of those weird things where chocolate and vanilla are always going to be everyone's best sellers, but if as a brand you only offer chocolate and vanilla, people don't get as excited about it, it seems like. It's like they want to see brands have a half dozen to dozen flavors but then for most people to buy chocolate and vanilla anyway, but the other flavors get attention to the products.
We're only able to start out with a couple of flavors and that's been my worry is that doing a chocolate and vanilla aren't going to be exciting enough - but the decision is/was we could either do a chocolate and vanilla in a whey isolate and a whey isolate/micellar casein combination or we could do more flavors in one or the other. I'm leaning towards starting with chocolate and vanilla in both types and then adding additional flavors as we go.
I have a lot of exciting flavors that I want us to do in the future as long as it goes well. I'm willing to roll every dollar that comes back in from protein sales into adding new flavors because I would really like to build out the flavors as quickly as possible.
akboom87
Well-known member
I think that’s a good plan honestly, having chocolate/vanilla in both types and expanding as time goes.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Thanks. I hope so. I hope that we can get enough attention to it even though it will be basic flavors to start with.
That's the funny thing with pretty much any company that sells protein though - Chocolate and Vanilla are always going to be the top sellers but they're always going to get asked to make a ton of flavors, but a lot of the flavors may not sell well enough to stick around.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Another question that I would like some opinions on for anyone interested.
I already have flavor samples that are good on a lot of this, but more flavor samples that I like than flavors that we would actually do, especially at first - so I'm curious to hear what people would like.
We are going to be doing an EAA under SNS and then a super comprehensive EAA/Intra under CEL.
The SNS one is going to be along the lines of a more basic EAA product with a few cool things added in.
The CEL one is going to be very unique and be absolutely loaded.
For the SNS one, I'm wanting to start with probably 3, maybe 4 flavors.
For the CEL one, I want to start with 2 flavors.
I would love to hear what flavors that anyone would be interested in.
My thoughts, and this is not set in stone yet, are:
CEL Intra - picking 2 flavors between:
I already have flavor samples that are good on a lot of this, but more flavor samples that I like than flavors that we would actually do, especially at first - so I'm curious to hear what people would like.
We are going to be doing an EAA under SNS and then a super comprehensive EAA/Intra under CEL.
The SNS one is going to be along the lines of a more basic EAA product with a few cool things added in.
The CEL one is going to be very unique and be absolutely loaded.
For the SNS one, I'm wanting to start with probably 3, maybe 4 flavors.
For the CEL one, I want to start with 2 flavors.
I would love to hear what flavors that anyone would be interested in.
My thoughts, and this is not set in stone yet, are:
CEL Intra - picking 2 flavors between:
- Blackberry Mojito
- Jawbreaker
- Sour Peach Candy
- Grape Limeade
- Blue Raspberry Popsicle
- Pink Grapefruit
- Blackberry Mojito
- Grape Limeade
- Lemon Lime (sour/tart)
- Watermelon Lime
- Lemon Tea
jh1
Member
Sour Peach and Grape Limeade for the CEL product
Pink Grapefruit for the SNS (and Grape Limeade if it isn't picked for the CEL)
Grape limeade focus XT and pink Grapefruit creatine HCl are my two all time favorite flavors from your product line
Segansational
Well-known member
Jawbreaker and Sour Peach Candy.
Blue Raspberry, Pink Grapefruit, Blackberry Mojito, Lemon Lime.