Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

Hyde said:
Next week I’ll either skip all the geared work to deload slightly, or if I feel strong switch from the Amazon slanger to a proper Slingshot.
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nice session, glad you hit that 360 this time. Did you switch up to the legit slingshot this time or just have more gas in the tank?
 
Dustin07 said:
nice session, glad you hit that 360 this time. Did you switch up to the legit slingshot this time or just have more gas in the tank?
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Yeah it’s an old full boar Slingshot, stronger than the cloth Amazon slanger. But my raw strength is also progressing well, most importantly.
 
Hey I was scrolling back and couldn’t find how you did at your last meet. I’ll keep digging. Or you could summarize
 
SkRaw85 said:
Hey I was scrolling back and couldn’t find how you did at your last meet. I’ll keep digging. Or you could summarize
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Went great! Really had a blast. Signed up just 8 weeks out, then my left adductor gave up less than 48 hours later at the bottom of a heavy squat. So most of the 2 months was just rehabbing that tear, trying to ramp up my lower body some, while focusing on my bench. GH & BPC are wonderful drugs.

Weighed in at 218.4, my true weight was low 220s, and I went 9/9 all white lights with perfectly selected attempts on my part. Squat 529, bench 347, & pulled 567 to total 1,443 - all 220 class PRs, the total by over 100lbs.

If the meet hadn’t been switched from USPA to WRPF last minute, that total would have qualified me for USPA Nationals both in the 220 class AND 242 (you can qualify for higher weightclasses if you also meet the standard for them). I am already qualified for 275 from last September’s meet. So I’m pretty pleased I pulled that off, considering my leg was all bruised up so recently. It’s also the first time I have executed a 1.5xBW bench in comp.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Impressive! Your strength retention at any weight is crazy. Glad it was a good one for ya man. You gonna stay 220 comp?
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He mentioned growing into the 242 class where he thinks he will be able to hit some of his other goals unless things changed recently.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Impressive! Your strength retention at any weight is crazy. Glad it was a good one for ya man. You gonna stay 220 comp?
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I was very pleased with it considering all the setback from injury, and barely taking any gas due to needing to keep my weight down (took some SARMs for 8 weeks and bumped my cruise dose about 50% for 3 weeks near the end).

Definitely not, just something to set a metric while I was leanest. Time to go back up & get strong!

MrKleen73 said:
He mentioned growing into the 242 class where he thinks he will be able to hit some of his other goals unless things changed recently.
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Yeah I am not sure if I will compete at 242 or 275 next, but I know I don’t want to fight calories so hard and want to try to work with my body through the summer at least. I don’t want to push the food & gear for now, just progressively climb.

Last week after finishing AXT, I switched my cruise from 150 test e (5x30mg/wk) to 210 (60mg eod). This is going really well - added some DIM nightly which has smoothed out some bloating, and my muscles & joints are definitely appreciating the extra estrogen. I did start crying when shopping for an anniversary card for my wife yesterday, but overall I have a great sense of wellbeing
 
Hyde said:
I was very pleased with it considering all the setback from injury, and barely taking any gas due to needing to keep my weight down (took some SARMs for 8 weeks and bumped my cruise dose about 50% for 3 weeks near the end).

Definitely not, just something to set a metric while I was leanest. Time to go back up & get strong!



Yeah I am not sure if I will compete at 242 or 275 next, but I know I don’t want to fight calories so hard and want to try to work with my body through the summer at least. I don’t want to push the food & gear for now, just progressively climb.

Last week after finishing AXT, I switched my cruise from 150 test e (5x30mg/wk) to 210 (60mg eod). This is going really well - added some DIM nightly which has smoothed out some bloating, and my muscles & joints are definitely appreciating the extra estrogen. I did start crying when shopping for an anniversary card for my wife yesterday, but overall I have a great sense of wellbeing
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Sometimes we just need to get on touch with our feminine side
 
Hyde said:
Last week after finishing AXT, I switched my cruise from 150 test e (5x30mg/wk) to 210 (60mg eod). This is going really well - added some DIM nightly which has smoothed out some bloating, and my muscles & joints are definitely appreciating the extra estrogen. I did start crying when shopping for an anniversary card for my wife yesterday, but overall I have a great sense of wellbeing
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I'm jealous of your ability to play with so many compounds without meaningful sides, I've really really enjoyed even the TD's and AXT but so far all 4 different toys I've played with have come with either the nip issues, or sores/rashes on the skin. Wait, actually 5 different supps this year. Even the AXT I finally had to put on hold.
 
Dustin07 said:
I'm jealous of your ability to play with so many compounds without meaningful sides, I've really really enjoyed even the TD's and AXT but so far all 4 different toys I've played with have come with either the nip issues, or sores/rashes on the skin. Wait, actually 5 different supps this year. Even the AXT I finally had to put on hold.
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At least you are still making good results though!
 
MrKleen73 said:
At least you are still making good results though!
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for sure! but I never felt better mood wise than when I had the UH. I don't know what about that mix hit me so well but it was the best. always felt like I was 16 in my first car on a sunny day with that stuff.
 
Dustin07 said:
for sure! but I never felt better mood wise than when I had the UH. I don't know what about that mix hit me so well but it was the best. always felt like I was 16 in my first car on a sunny day with that stuff.
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Now you’re making me want to try that! I miss being 16!
 
Jeremyk1 said:
Now you’re making me want to try that! I miss being 16!
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I'm guessing it's the andro? because taking just epi alone I'm not getting the euphoric moods. usually within a half hour or so of applying UH my head would get a little spacey. but not necessarily in a negative way, then great vibes for the rest of the day and killer gym sessions. unfortunately, I also had some unbearable nipple itchiness.
 
Dustin07 said:
I'm jealous of your ability to play with so many compounds without meaningful sides, I've really really enjoyed even the TD's and AXT but so far all 4 different toys I've played with have come with either the nip issues, or sores/rashes on the skin. Wait, actually 5 different supps this year. Even the AXT I finally had to put on hold.
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I don’t know that I experience less sides than you - in fact my general experience with many compounds is that, besides significant shedding, I get just about every potential side in varying degrees.

I just started playing with my hormones at 21, and at that age you can handle a lot of crap (no sleep, high stress lifestyle), and I was hungry for results, so I self-conditioned to roll with the sides. You just accept the various suffering the way you accept things like DOMS and body aches from training.

So now I don’t often think too much when I see acne, water retention, skewed bloodwork/health, lethargy, so on. When the gas pedal goes down, I expect the ride to get rougher if I’m going faster!

I do think you have pretty sensitive skin, but I don’t think transdermals are a good solution longterm anyway.
 
Hyde said:
I don’t know that I experience less sides than you - in fact my general experience with many compounds is that, besides significant shedding, I get just about every potential side in varying degrees.

I just started playing with my hormones at 21, and at that age you can handle a lot of crap (no sleep, high stress lifestyle), and I was hungry for results, so I self-conditioned to roll with the sides. You just accept the various suffering the way you accept things like DOMS and body aches from training.

So now I don’t often think too much when I see acne, water retention, skewed bloodwork/health, lethargy, so on. When the gas pedal goes down, I expect the ride to get rougher if I’m going faster!

I do think you have pretty sensitive skin, but I don’t think transdermals are a good solution longterm anyway.
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Probably not but it's been fun play with them and learn a little more. I think I'd gladly take acne over puffy nipples that wake me up itching lol. The shedding with epi is very light so I'm watching it. Not enough to stop me on the epi yet.

And yeah the gains are addictive...
 
Dustin07 said:
Probably not but it's been fun play with them and learn a little more. I think I'd gladly take acne over puffy nipples that wake me up itching lol. The shedding with epi is very light so I'm watching it. Not enough to stop me on the epi yet.

And yeah the gains are addictive...
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How would you like acne AND puffy nipples? Because I have had gyno naturally since puberty, and still have it even after surgery.

Do not be so quick to assume you’re the bottom of the bell curve - statistically, most people fall in the middle and have semi-similar experiences with things. Most people need AIs with elevated test & such to control gyno.
 
Didn’t get updates for a few days….it’s really cool you got to meet and train with JT. And you’re right, when you’re able to train with a good workout partner it can make all the difference in the world. There’s just something about being able to push each other, and provide proper spots to help push for those last most challenging reps.💪
 
Hyde said:
How would you like acne AND puffy nipples? Because I have had gyno naturally since puberty, and still have it even after surgery.

Do not be so quick to assume you’re the bottom of the bell curve - statistically, most people fall in the middle and have semi-similar experiences with things. Most people need AIs with elevated test & such to control gyno.
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look man, all I want is a full head of hair, balloon sized pecs, 21" guns, and Dorian Yates' calves, is that too much to ask?
with your pubescent based gyno did you still occasionally have the physical discomfort as well or was it just the appearance that bothered you? I still sorta laugh now days looking back at high school and realizing that like 90% of us had some form of gyno in the locker room but we all just figured we needed more chest work in the gym
 
Dustin07 said:
look man, all I want is a full head of hair, balloon sized pecs, 21" guns, and Dorian Yates' calves, is that too much to ask?
with your pubescent based gyno did you still occasionally have the physical discomfort as well or was it just the appearance that bothered you? I still sorta laugh now days looking back at high school and realizing that like 90% of us had some form of gyno in the locker room but we all just figured we needed more chest work in the gym
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The bolded made me laugh out loud. You just might be a person that needs an AI to run things. You could also just be shrinking some pre-existing gyno with the additional DHT which can also cause itching and other issues. I definitely feel when I have aggravated my gyno, both going up, and on the way back down. It is really hard to tell what is going on without bloodwork to tell you the culprit. If indeed it is a negative reaction to estrogen then you probably need a good somewhat effective natural AI, or low dose Research Chem AI to run your prohormones with. I still recommend getting some bloods drawn while experiencing the issue to find out which way. If it is actually not enough estrogen getting to the receptor causing shrinkage then lowering estrogen is not going to benefit your progress in any way and could cause less progress.
 
MrKleen73 said:
The bolded made me laugh out loud. You just might be a person that needs an AI to run things. You could also just be shrinking some pre-existing gyno with the additional DHT which can also cause itching and other issues. I definitely feel when I have aggravated my gyno, both going up, and on the way back down. It is really hard to tell what is going on without bloodwork to tell you the culprit. If indeed it is a negative reaction to estrogen then you probably need a good somewhat effective natural AI, or low dose Research Chem AI to run your prohormones with. I still recommend getting some bloods drawn while experiencing the issue to find out which way. If it is actually not enough estrogen getting to the receptor causing shrinkage then lowering estrogen is not going to benefit your progress in any way and could cause less progress.
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This is always good advice, getting blood work when you are showing symptoms. That lets you see where your estrogen is really at, and it’s not a bad idea to get checked for prolactin as well. Of course when prolactin is elevated it can cause all the symptoms as well and can be confusing for people when an AI isn’t working. That’s why I’m a big believer in P5P as a preventative, it’s reasonably priced and a very effective supplement to help control prolactin.
 
Dustin07 said:
look man, all I want is a full head of hair, balloon sized pecs, 21" guns, and Dorian Yates' calves, is that too much to ask?
with your pubescent based gyno did you still occasionally have the physical discomfort as well or was it just the appearance that bothered you? I still sorta laugh now days looking back at high school and realizing that like 90% of us had some form of gyno in the locker room but we all just figured we needed more chest work in the gym
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I don’t remember experiencing chest pain, but I went through puberty at 10 and was fat then, so it already had happened very young.
 
Hyde said:
I don’t remember experiencing chest pain, but I went through puberty at 10 and was fat then, so it already had happened very young.
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Same here, I was chubby and they were always pointy and bigger than they should be. My loving mother passed on some serious estrogen sensitive fat down to me. Gotta love it. Her side of the family all have huge breasts and a ton of estrogen sensitive fat that goes all the way back into the armpit. Got to love the mixed bag of genetics we get thrown sometimes eh!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Same here, I was chubby and they were always pointy and bigger than they should be. My loving mother passed on some serious estrogen sensitive fat down to me. Gotta love it. Her side of the family all have huge breasts and a ton of estrogen sensitive fat that goes all the way back into the armpit. Got to love the mixed bag of genetics we get thrown sometimes eh!
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I have the same problem, and I was skinny as **** in middle and high school. That’s why it’s so important for me to keep AI on hand whenever I have run a cycle and honestly, why I try so hard not to let my bf% get too out of control. **** sucks.
 
5/12/23
BW 230.2

5 min walk

Band Pullaparts
Monstermini 4x25 (2 before bench, 2 after)

Widegrip Bench
45x20
95,145,195x6
245 6x6

Incline Bench
45x15
95,135,170x10
195x6
210x3
230x4+1 assisted

Shoulder Mobility

Saturday evening wife was feeling sick, had flu-like symptoms. Stepdaughter had some unrelated mucus Monday, and Tuesday I felt something off with my throat - we had my wife test for COVID then, and she was positive. So was my stepdaughter, and I had chills/backaches/exhaustion Wednesday so no squats.

Back in the saddle; just did my normal Friday garage session since it’s the easiest of the week. I lost my sense of taste yesterday, but I’ve been getting the meals in and got my weight back up - despite some lethargy, I was strong tonight & weights moved well.
 
Hyde said:
5/12/23
BW 230.2

5 min walk

Band Pullaparts
Monstermini 4x25 (2 before bench, 2 after)

Widegrip Bench
45x20
95,145,195x6
245 6x6

Incline Bench
45x15
95,135,170x10
195x6
210x3
230x4+1 assisted

Shoulder Mobility

Saturday evening wife was feeling sick, had flu-like symptoms. Stepdaughter had some unrelated mucus Monday, and Tuesday I felt something off with my throat - we had my wife test for COVID then, and she was positive. So was my stepdaughter, and I had chills/backaches/exhaustion Wednesday so no squats.

Back in the saddle; just did my normal Friday garage session since it’s the easiest of the week. I lost my sense of taste yesterday, but I’ve been getting the meals in and got my weight back up - despite some lethargy, I was strong tonight & weights moved well.
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Ugh. Sorry man. I was wondering what was up with the nightcrew session. Think it’s safe to say we know the drill with this shite at this point. Wishing you all a rapid 12 hr recovery 🤞🏻
 
SkRaw85 said:
Ugh. Sorry man. I was wondering what was up with the nightcrew session. Think it’s safe to say we know the drill with this shite at this point. Wishing you all a rapid 12 hr recovery 🤞🏻
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Best possible time for me to get it honestly, being light right now & just on 210 test. Now I can gain weight soon after this and not worry about handling this while weighing 260 & being juiced up in some kind of prep. My metabolic health is good as it gets for me right now.
 
Hyde said:
Best possible time for me to get it honestly, being light right now & just on 210 test. Now I can gain weight soon after this and not worry about handling this while weighing 260 & being juiced up in some kind of prep. My metabolic health is good as it gets for me right now.
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Hunger post-covid is surreal! I’m sure you will utilize it to the fullest. Like you said, better now at cruise.
 
Sorry to hear about the COVID, good it isn't bothering your strength though!
 
Man that sucks you and your family caught COVID. I used to hardly ever get sick, but it seems like since COVID started my wife and I have caught every variant of COVID there is. Like SkRaw said, at least you know the drill. Hope you guys recover quickly.🙏
 
I guess I'm lucky, I never got COVID !
 
5/14/23

5 min walk

KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift

Strictpress, Buffalo bar
60,110x10
130,150x8

alt w/ GHR
2x12

Squat, Buffalo bar
60,150,240,330x3
390 3x3
+belt
420x3
390x10 RPE7

SSB Boxsquat
270 3x12

Reverse Hypers
300 4x12

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Hyde said:
Best possible time for me to get it honestly, being light right now & just on 210 test. Now I can gain weight soon after this and not worry about handling this while weighing 260 & being juiced up in some kind of prep. My metabolic health is good as it gets for me right now.
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Absolutely. Got your all natural booster. Now pound some pho and enjoy your refreshed immunity

My ex tested my boy a week or two ago and he was positive as well so I'm guessing those few days I was feeling shitty it was just COVID taxing the system for a few days. Should be good for six to 9 months lol.
 
Hyde said:
5/14/23

5 min walk

KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift

Strictpress, Buffalo bar
60,110x10
130,150x8

alt w/ GHR
2x12

Squat, Buffalo bar
60,150,240,330x3
390 3x3
+belt
420x3
390x10 RPE7

SSB Boxsquat
270 3x12

Reverse Hypers
300 4x12

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That COVID didn’t know what hit it after finishing up Squats with 420x3 and 390x7.💪😎
 
gphagan1 said:
That COVID didn’t know what hit it after finishing up Squats with 420x3 and 390x7.
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It was 10 reps actually, easier than last week despite 15 more lbs on the bar, and this week I did all ten unbroken too! RPE7 just meant I had a good 3 left until true failure.

COVID can’t touch this!
 
Great session, glad the COVID is not hindering you!
 
5/16/23
BW 232.2

Band Pullaparts, Tri Ext, Rows, Facepulls, Rotators, Snatch

Bench
45 4x5
135,185x5
225x3
255,285,305,325x1
+yellow slingshot
345,355,365x1
-gear
280 4x6

CGBP
245x6,6,5,6

Pull-ups
3x10, 1x9,8

Another 5lbs on all the work sets for the 5th week in a row…still on just 210mg test e/wk (60mg eod) - and a lot of food, mental focus, & effort.
 
Hyde said:
5/16/23
BW 232.2

Band Pullaparts, Tri Ext, Rows, Facepulls, Rotators, Snatch

Bench
45 4x5
135,185x5
225x3
255,285,305,325x1
+yellow slingshot
345,355,365x1
-gear
280 4x6

CGBP
245x6,6,5,6

Pull-ups
3x10, 1x9,8

Another 5lbs on all the work sets for the 5th week in a row…still on just 210mg test e/wk (60mg eod) - and a lot of food, mental focus, & effort.
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Making solid progress and staying low on body weight! Nice work
 
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