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I know! Lol not a damn thing
Andro Factory had some good DHEA products at the same timeframe. Just direct rip-offs of the Primordial recipes, but they worked accordingly.
I know! Lol not a damn thing
Yeah primordial was pretty good right up to the very end. I vaguely remember andro factoryAndro Factory had some good DHEA products at the same timeframe. Just direct rip-offs of the Primordial recipes, but they worked accordingly.
I remember people bought boxes upon boxes of these things. They were like $200 were they not?
I remember people bought boxes upon boxes of these things. They were like $200 were they not?
Then it all went downhill. I think the owner eventually opened a different company with only a toco 8 type productYeah .... They were Expensive!!!
Andro Factory had an edge on price when they came along, because they were a rip-off of PP, like Hyde said.
Then it all went downhill. I think the owner eventually opened a different company with only a toco 8 type product
Oh he totally did and from his account of the story, it seemed way way over the top. Unfortunately that’s the government we have… land of the… well you know the thingHe Really got screwed.
That pissed me off.
:-(
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Lol people must buy those right? Like, they been around so long that they have to sell.Invalid Link Removed
And you guys thought, we dont have good stuff anymore.
Lol people must buy those right? Like, they been around so long that they have to sell.
Wow that's quite a find, any plans to run them?This is the thread I originally was looking for
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Started going through old boxes and found these![]()
Nope.Wow that's quite a find, any plans to run them?
Just so you know. I’m available. Anytime.Nope.
I have another 80-100 bottles somewhere.
I've never done PH, always had thick hair but started thinning in my mid 30s.
I'm sure if I had, I would of accelerated in as I have MPB history in my family.
I'm 105kgs, I don't think I want to get bigger. Just leaner, but not at the chance I lose even more hair.
I will end up palming them off eventually.
Will take a photo of the bigger stash when I find it under all the boxes.
I echo this. there is a couple there I wouldn't mind re visiting hahaJust so you know. I’m available. Anytime.![]()
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I'd be down to take 1-2 if those M1T off your hands and would love to see the larger list of classic PH when you get a chance @AdelV.

M1T made me feel great honestly. Full of water but not under the skin so I felt huge. Strength was unreal. Maybe a little tired during not gym time but it was go time at the gym.I used M1T twice I believe. Both times, it just kicked my butt! It’s such a serious oral, it just pumps you full of water and the lethargy is so real. Rapid weight gain. It’s hard to train or do anything, besides some singles.
I always wish I had some, but I don’t think I would ever run it again if I did actually. I would rather pin a huge dose of Trest daily or something if I wanted that and spare my liver.
Maybe I will try that…![]()
M1T made me feel great honestly. Full of water but not under the skin so I felt huge. Strength was unreal. Maybe a little tired during not gym time but it was go time at the gym.
Yeah the lethargy and toxicity are gnarly past a point but I did feel good and got crazy strong weeks 2-4 and put on decent size. This without a test base or modern cycle support like Nutriissa and enough TUDCA early cycles on here pre 2018..I used M1T twice I believe. Both times, it just kicked my butt! It’s such a serious oral, it just pumps you full of water and the lethargy is so real. Rapid weight gain. It’s hard to train or do anything, besides some singles.
I always wish I had some, but I don’t think I would ever run it again if I did actually. I would rather pin a huge dose of Trest daily or something if I wanted that and spare my liver.
Maybe I will try that…![]()
Oh for sure. Feel good is different than being good, but… if I can take m1t at everyone’s normal dose (which will mess everyone’s bloodwork up) but also feel great on it, that’s an added bonus.M1T is going to affect everyone differently... but everyone negatively. Some people don't feel the sides (which might make it even more dangerous) so they up their dosage and feel great seeing the gains in size and strength... but if they actually had blood work done they would realize how harsh it actually is. That's why I'm very critical of people who say "I know my body and I feel great on this compound so it must not be as harsh as others and I can up the dose." Just because a compound makes you feel good, doesn't mean it's not as toxic or even more toxic than a compound that makes you feel like crap. Speed makes me feel amazing but I know it's not good for me.
Nope.
I have another 80-100 bottles somewhere.
I've never done PH, always had thick hair but started thinning in my mid 30s.
I'm sure if I had, I would of accelerated in as I have MPB history in my family.
I'm 105kgs, I don't think I want to get bigger. Just leaner, but not at the chance I lose even more hair.
I will end up palming them off eventually.
Will take a photo of the bigger stash when I find it under all the boxes.
You can sell 75% your stash and make enough money to just buy a hair transplant and then run what's left of your stash. Then you have the best of both worlds.

Oh for sure. Feel good is different than being good, but… if I can take m1t at everyone’s normal dose (which will mess everyone’s bloodwork up) but also feel great on it, that’s an added bonus.
Sketchy organs and a sketchy scalp?![]()
I'll have to figure out how to adjust file sizes to upload a pic of an old stash I have

Sounds like a good deal to me !Send it to me and I’ll put up a picture for free!![]()
Send it to me and I’ll put up a picture for free!![]()
Hahaha well I have some friends that got hair transplants and the way they do them today is amazing... would never be able to tell it's a transplant. I've thought about it myself as I also have MPB. I haven't lost all my hair yet but sure I will in due time. With the hair transplants, finasteride, minoxidil, laser therapies, platelet-rich plasma, etc. I would venture to say that there are ways to still cycle and have hair if you are prone to MPB.... although it ain't cheap.
I would be interested to know if anyone on this forum has used some of these alternative treatments like PRP or laser treatments while on cycle to reduce shedding and if it helped.
I use Nizoral shampoo more frequently on blast. Otherwise I use Pur Ador, and after that I don’t worry about it and let things fall where they may.
Proviron and especially Rad140 are the only things I’ve ever noticed obvious shedding with so far, besides a few strands when test is higher; I don’t think I’m particularly prone for MPB.
My goals are more important than my hair, tbh. And I totally respect that won’t be the case for most who are looking to improve overall aesthetics.
I just got a batch of these last year.
People went crazy for the andros by PP. it was a frenzy all the time when they were in stock. Until they weren’t… because they were stolen by the governmentI just got a batch of these last year.
They had an expiration date of 2013? I sold every single one within 48 hours. They sold for $100 each. Still in the box, AH3
I talked to Eric Portatz last year. Hes still in Portland Oregon and he was dealing with some **** a few years back. He got into some bullshit with PAntifa.
Eric's a good guy. He owns Botanical craft now
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Anabeta was super popular for years! The other 2 I don't think I've ever seen beforeHere are a few supplements from the past that I really miss
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supposedly SNS released the same OG Anabeta formula (or close enough to) this year, cant remember which product it was @sns8778 insights?
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Just an fyi because I also love demiurge but you can still find phenylpiracetam. It’s not as easy at it used to be but it’s out there and I will still combine 200mg once a week with my pre for a great workout and productive day
Just out of curiosity, have you tried it with Sabroxy XT?
I've found that I get more out of 100 mg. of Phenylpiracetam combined with Sabroxy XT than out of 200 mg. of Phenylpiracetam by itself and that works out great for me bc I tend to get used to Phenylpiracetam very quickly, especially at higher dosing.