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I think you should consider forgoing the Epistane the first month. That way when you get to the last month you aren’t already feeling rough. Gains will likely be similar in the end but it won’t be as harsh.
 
Hyde said:
I think you should consider forgoing the Epistane the first month. That way when you get to the last month you aren’t already feeling rough. Gains will likely be similar in the end but it won’t be as harsh.
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I like this. I’m already a little worried about Epistane drying me out
 
wfreiling said:
I like this. I’m already a little worried about Epistane drying me out
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That’s kinda my thought process. You don’t want to get through a month of Epistane and think, man, I can’t even handle any more heavy lifting - and now you are facing down a boost from Msten or SD. AND those will tax the appetite, so you want a decent appetite going into them.

You are better off stacking it in the last month so if it treats you poorly it’s only 4 weeks. Epistane is an especially variable response drug. You hear more different things from different doses, brands, & users than almost anything else out there.
 
Hyde said:
That’s kinda my thought process. You don’t want to get through a month of Epistane and think, man, I can’t even handle any more heavy lifting - and now you are facing down a boost from Msten or SD. AND those will tax the appetite, so you want a decent appetite going into them.

You are better off stacking it in the last month so if it treats you poorly it’s only 4 weeks. Epistane is an especially variable response drug. You hear more different things from different doses, brands, & users than almost anything else out there.
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I haven’t had an issue in the past but now my joints are very finicky.
 
Reverse hyper 15x90x2
Squat
5x135/185/225/275
3x315
1x345/385

Leverage Squat
10x1pps
6x2ppsx3

Leg extensions
20x90x3

Had an hour to get something in since I slept in today after a long weekend at work. 2 days nearly 30 hours.
 
wfreiling said:
Reverse hyper 15x90x2
Squat
5x135/185/225/275
3x315
1x345/385

Leverage Squat
10x1pps
6x2ppsx3

Leg extensions
20x90x3

Had an hour to get something in since I slept in today after a long weekend at work. 2 days nearly 30 hours.
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nice squatting bro
 
Went and had my first electro acupuncture session today. Crazy how much better my left side already feels. I’m cleared for upper body movements but am supposed to take a week off from lower body exercises. Fingers crossed
 
Threw some Ursa in the mix starting today, got a few bottles to go through so I’ll see how much transdermal I can stand in one day. Thinking 4ml or Ursa with 20 pumps of Epichaos100…then 10 pumps Helios100 when it arrives, a little triton pwo and some Stanogen on heavy day. God that’s a lot, we’ll see
 
wfreiling said:
Threw some Ursa in the mix starting today, got a few bottles to go through so I’ll see how much transdermal I can stand in one day. Thinking 4ml or Ursa with 20 pumps of Epichaos100…then 10 pumps Helios100 when it arrives, a little triton pwo and some Stanogen on heavy day. God that’s a lot, we’ll see
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Just throw it all in the bath tub and get in bro
 
Little upper back session after work. Shoulders are tomorrow. Trying really hard to train smart and listen to my doctor.

Bb rows
10x135x2
6x185x2
5x225x2

Chest supported db rows
10x40x3
8x60
8x80x2

Chest supported machine rows
8x120x3
Ss
Reverse machine flyes
 
Great shoulder session. Kept weight moderate as my left shoulder is still giving me some trouble. Did only what I knew wouldn’t aggravate it.

Seated db military press
12x25/40
8x60
6x75

Very high incline press
6x95/135/165/185
3x205x2

Plate loaded shoulder press
12x1pps
8x2pps
6x3pps x2
14x2pps(burnout set)

Machine side laterals
30 reps

Reverse hyper facepulls
 
wfreiling said:
Great shoulder session. Kept weight moderate as my left shoulder is still giving me some trouble. Did only what I knew wouldn’t aggravate it.

Seated db military press
12x25/40
8x60
6x75

Very high incline press
6x95/135/165/185
3x205x2

Plate loaded shoulder press
12x1pps
8x2pps
6x3pps x2
14x2pps(burnout set)

Machine side laterals
30 reps

Reverse hyper facepulls
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I really need to set up my reverse hyper. It’s been sitting in the shipping boxes for way too long and I have that list of exercises you sent me that I really want to do, including face pulls. Such a versatile piece of equipment.
 
Had my 2nd and hopefully last acupuncture appointment today. I’m 100% pain free and am cleared for all exercises!

Today is a press day, felt my lower body was way too loose for squatting after today’s appointment. Started with dumbbell flat bench for a change and the pressing felt great. The whole workout went well and I have a nice soreness in my chest and tris but zero pain or discomfort.

I’m now dosing
4ml Epichaos 100 daily
2ml Helios100 daily
600mg epiandro pwo occasionally

Light weight flyes and press warmup
Db bench
10x50/60
8x75/85
6x100x2

Incline bench
8x135/155
6x185
4x205/225x2

Cambered multigrip CG press
10/8x135x2

Ez bar skullcrushers
10x45/65/75

Overhead cables extensions 50 reps
Fly machine 30 reps
 
Nothing better than pain free lifting!
 
Reverse hyper
10x90x2

Squat
5x135/185
3x225/275x3
5x225x2

Leverage lunge
10(each leg)x90x2

Leg extensions (hyper)
25/50x90

Babies the legs today.
 
Ur running orals half the year… whats ast, alt, Ggt, bilirubin? Creatnine? HDL. Why not just run test if so inclined then add some low dose preworkout oral. Not to sound like debbie downer but we would hate see a thread next: “steroids ruined my body”.
 
barische said:
Ur running orals half the year… whats ast, alt, Ggt, bilirubin? Creatnine? HDL. Why not just run test if so inclined then add some low dose preworkout oral. Not to sound like debbie downer but we would hate see a thread next: “steroids ruined my body”.
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Heard.
 
wfreiling said:
Bench
5x135x2/155
3x185/225
1x245/265/275/295

Multigrip camber CG press
5x95/135x2
8x165
5x185
3x205

Multigrip camber JM press
10x65
8x95/105
5x135

Incline bench
5x135/155/185
3x205x3

Overhead rope extensions 40 reps

Press day on my first day back from vacation. Happy with the 295 single. Cambered multigrip feels great with my shoulder. Did some JM presses with it and it hit the tris hard.

I think my winter blast will be about 8wks long if I can handle it
Td 4andro 1-8
Diendione 90mg 1-8
Epistane 30mg 1-8
Msten or Sd 5-8 low dose
Epiandro 600-900 mg 1-8

Thoughts?
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No transdermal Trest bro?
 
Seated military
6x95/135x3/155
4x185
8x135

Viking press(plate loaded machine)
15x1pps
8x2pps
6x 230x3
8 x 270
3 x 320

Db lateral raises
10x15x2
8x25

Facepulls 60 reps

Left shoulder feels great. Kept military press to weight I know I can control fairly easily. Went for it on Viking press and it felt solid. Few weeks from now I’ll go for 4 plates.
 
barische said:
Ur running orals half the year… whats ast, alt, Ggt, bilirubin? Creatnine? HDL. Why not just run test if so inclined then add some low dose preworkout oral. Not to sound like debbie downer but we would hate see a thread next: “steroids ruined my body”.
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Not sure where you are, but GGT is not commonly reported for most complete metabolic panels I’ve seen here in the US. Doctors don’t routinely order it that I’m aware of and I’ve never had it drawn in panels I’ve ordered personally either through both LabCorp and Quest drawing facilities (I get bloods privately about 3-4x a year typically).

Orals aren’t really going to be worse for creatinine, and AST/ALT & generally total bilirubin should clean up post cycle. Assuming someone is using things like NAC and TUDCA anyway. It’s the HDL always being low that is the real longterm issue with orals too often.
 
Today was some of the most comfortable benching I’ve had in a long time. I really concentrated on my arch as well as my shoulder placement on the bench. Dug in deep with my feet and set the safeties right at the bottom of the lift. I also raised my j-cups a notch which made a huge difference with the lift off. I honestly think these adjustments may have added 10lb to my max along with the additional tricep work I’ve been doing. I think in the new year I’ll go for a 335+ single. Very happy today.

I’d also like to note that I’m still running epichaos100 as well as helios100. The 2 together are great!

Bench
6x135x2/155/185/225
3x255
2x285
8x225

Incline bench
6x135x2/ 185/ 205/
3x235

Supinated cg db press
8x45x2/ 55
6x75

Overhead cable tricep extension 60 reps
 
Nice benching! I think the best bench cue I ever heard was “lift your big toe up while your feet are planted”. Stupid simple with massive results. The lat engagement recruited just from doing this is night and day. A fucking toe man!
 
SkRaw85 said:
Nice benching! I think the best bench cue I ever heard was “lift your big toe up while your feet are planted”. Stupid simple with massive results. The lat engagement recruited just from doing this is night and day. A fucking toe man!
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What muscles you are engaging and the body position is so crucial man.

Most of the stuff that has helped me the most came from Scott Mendelson. Things like trying to bench on your traps, keeping the hips high both on the bar descent and the press up by trying to drive your heels down (regardless of whether you bench heels up or down), lowering/receiving the bar with your lats, driving back into your traps to press your body away from the bar (that might have been JM Blakley).

Also, just keeping my damn wrists locked straight and not folding back.
 
Glad to hear about your bench progress. I learned some things in here today.
 
Trying to get back to a 4 day split. Today was my pull day. Kinda felt like I was just going through the motions but any workout is a good workout, right?

Reverse hyper
10x90x3

Trap deads (high handle)
8x135
6x225
4x275x2

Rackpulls
8x135
6x225
4x315/365

Barbell rows
10x135x2
8x185 x2

Bent over db rows
8x60/75/85
6x100
 
Indeed.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Nice benching! I think the best bench cue I ever heard was “lift your big toe up while your feet are planted”. Stupid simple with massive results. The lat engagement recruited just from doing this is night and day. A fucking toe man!
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Brilliant. I’m trying this!
 
Some sweet benching, man. You’ll see 350 in 4-6 months at the rate you’re building strength.
 
Today was a good day. Squats were coming up fast. Wanted to get up to 405 but sacrificing form isn’t an option. That amrap was painful. Gotta figure exactly how to optimally set the bands for the leg curls. They felt good but not great. Played around with some variation of military press using the cambered multi grip. I can’t believe I haven’t tried this.
Reverse hyper
10x90x3

Squats
5x135/185/225/275/315
3x345
2x375
8x315 (amrap)

Lying leg curls (hyper)
15x90+red micro x2

Military press
8x135
5/4x185
5x175

Military (cambered multi grip- mid handle)
6x65/85/105/135
3x155
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Workout was cut short this morning. I’ll get the rest done later this week during my 2nd push day. Kind of annoying but that’s part of being an adult I guess. Benching continues to feel good with zero pain in my shoulder. However, sciatic pain is back so I might have to take it easy on squats this week.

Bench
8x135
5x155/175/195/225/245
3x265 x2

Cg bench
10x135x3
 
Pull day, left hamstring is still bothering me so I opted not to pull from the floor and instead do some variation of rows and just have an accessory day. Upper back needs work as my wife so nicely pointed out haha. @SkRaw85 I tried the seal rows but I need some more height to get a better ROM. Maxed out my dumbbells on bent over rows which felt good, gotta find more pancake weights or just make one big boy.

Reverse hyper
10x90x2

Chest supported camber bar row
10x135x3

Seated chest supported row machine
10x120x3

Bent over dumbbell row
10x75
8x100
6x110x2

Cable high rows
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wfreiling said:
Taking it easy.

Ssb squats
5x95/135/185/225
3x275/315

Ssb box squats
6x225x3

Leg extensions (hyper)
20x90/140x4
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Looks like good work to me. Not sure what you are using for programming, but it’s important to remember if you are kind of doing your own thing that deloading some still needs to happen if you (like most folks) derive benefits from them.
 
Hyde said:
Looks like good work to me. Not sure what you are using for programming, but it’s important to remember if you are kind of doing your own thing that deloading some still needs to happen if you (like most folks) derive benefits from them.
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Yea I’m actually gonna do a Deload this coming week. Just kinda doing my own thing lately. Might run some 5/3/1 after the deload not sure. I’ve been having a good time so far.
 
Friday shoulder days are the best days. Shoulder feels 100%. Next week is a deload week, tried for some heavy singles on military but it wasn’t there. I’m ready for a deload haha. @Hyde called it above, even though I was thinking it I might not have followed through.
Military press
5x95/135/155/175
3x195
1x225

PL Shoulder press
25x1pps
15x2pps x2
8x3pps x2

Btn PL shoulder press
12x1pps x3

PL delt raises
3 sets of 10

Sitting at 206lb, definitely putting on that winter fat
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225 on OHP is pretty damn heavy in my book
 
Deload week. Mixed in some variety utilizing different bars. First time trying the SSB JM press and I love them. I didn’t need to go heavy at all to feel them hitting my tris, very natural this way. Watched the rogue invitational for strongman late last night…Martins!!!! Though to myself I should use my axle again haha. Anyway, this workout was fun and effective.

Bench Deload
5x95/115/135/155/175/185

Ssb JM press
10x95x2
5x135x3

Incline Axle
5x115/135x2/155x3/175

Overhead cable tricep extensions
90 reps total

PL chest fly machine 30 reps total
 
I am loving the SSB for JMs, easily the best way to do them because of the consistency. You descend to touch & roll the forearms back, then reverse into an extension/press. Wish I had this years ago!

I also watched most of the strongman events of the Rogue Invitational. Definitely not a fanboy of his, but I was happy for Martins, to see him come back to the stage and put on the performance he knew he was capable of after all his setbacks. Some folks crapped on him winning WSM in 2019, saying he only won because it was a CrossFit event and too light/favoring speed, but I was there on the beach that weekend and I will tell you he was very very strong. Nobody could beat him overall. Nobody pressed the medley so fast, nobody could out-squat him, and his stone run was terrific. All in the brutal sun & humidity and running on the sand. After this weekend, I think he can win another World’s if he really wants it.
 
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