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A shot a day keeps covid away.

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Dr. Fauci
faucci has become a cartoon character---looney tunes...

wear a mask, don't wear a mask...you need a mask, masks aren't necessary....guy is a bigger dotard than 2 brain surgeries joe diben.
 
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I got my first Pfizer shot on Wed. in and out in 20 minutes, no sides, no problems !
 
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so i just found out that the assisted living my mom is in [altenheim senior living]is going back on lockdown starting monday....this is odd since over 95% of residents have been given both doses of vaccine?

the reason given was that covid cases are on the rise....maybe those risky assed vaccines aren't all that effective-eh?


joe diben and his vaccines can kiss my arse.
 
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so i just found out that the assisted living my mom is in [altenheim senior living]is going back on lockdown starting monday....this is odd since over 95% of residents have been given both doses of vaccine?

the reason given was that covid cases are on the rise....maybe those risky assed vaccines aren't all that effective-eh?


joe diben and his vaccines can kiss my arse.
It’s never been about the disease man. Power abs control
 
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It’s never been about the disease man. Power abs control
everywhere i turn i see another power move diben is making...and they called trump a dictator 👹
 
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Got my second shot yesterday, no problems !!
 

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Had shot 2 last week. Feeling just fine.

Feel free not to get one, but don't force your opinions on those who decide to.
 
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Had shot 2 last week. Feeling just fine.

Feel free not to get one, but don't force your opinions on those who decide to.
I appreciate your narrative, but we both know it rarely goes that way. It’s opposite. It’s usually scared people labeling people who don’t want to inject an experimental gene therapy with no long term safety data “irresponsible/uneducated anti vaxxers.”
 

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I think I got some sides from my vaccine... it’s weird but I’m more muscular and stronger since I got it...

idk, it’s either the vaccine or the test/mast/eq that I also did at the same time that did this to me... either way I’m happy, it was just what I wanted! 😉
 
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Had shot 2 last week. Feeling just fine.

Feel free not to get one, but don't force your opinions on those who decide to.
are you saying those opposed to vaccines should not voice their opinion?

how is voicing a opinion forcing anything on anyone?
 

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are you saying those opposed to vaccines should not voice their opinion?

how is voicing a opinion forcing anything on anyone?
Just keep talking to the wall. I'm sure it will get through.
 
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btw-my wife and i both had covid around a month ago and we are both fine...actually i am training for my 1st 7k race at age 62-hows about them apples-eh?
 
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Just keep talking to the wall. I'm sure it will get through.
of course i 100% agree, anyone who makes a serious decision about getting or not getting a vaccine based solely on opinions from a bodybuilding forum really needs to rethink, imo.

and thank you for your permission to keep voicing my opinion, can't tell you how much that means to me :love:
 

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Great thing about America. You got the right to be dumb. 😎 Keep up the great work.
 
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Great thing about America. You got the right to be dumb. 😎 Keep up the great work.
then why do you feel the need to respond?

actually i remember you saying you just ignore my posts?
 
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then why do you feel the need to respond?

actually i remember you saying you just ignore my posts?
I'm a glutton for punishment and enjoy the laughs cons brings each day. Thx for the entertainment.
 
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I'm a glutton for punishment and enjoy the laughs cons brings each day. Thx for the entertainment.
resorting to name calling eh-?

i can assure you i am not a con, haven't spent anytime in prison-how about you?
 

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resorting to name calling eh-?

i can assure you i am not a con, haven't spent anytime in prison-how about you?
Conservative. You know what I meant. Way to blame dumb and act con.
 
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Conservative. You know what I meant. Way to blame dumb and act con.
i'm done...if all you have to add to the conversation is childish insults...have a nice day.
 
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I appreciate your narrative, but we both know it rarely goes that way. It’s opposite. It’s usually scared people labeling people who don’t want to inject an experimental gene therapy with no long term safety data “irresponsible/uneducated anti vaxxers.”
I have to agree with Thor here. I've basically taken no side in this covid vaccine issue and while I understand some of the doubt and concern regarding these quickly fabricated vaccines and am not really eager on getting them, it looks like due to the situation in my country I'll be getting these shots myself at some point. But on the Thor's point, most of the times the "anti Covid-vaccine" people are just saying that they aren't taking any themselves and not attacking people who do take them. But after saying they don't want to take the vaccines, a lot of hate and insults will quickly follow. Just based on what I've seen.
 

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I got it. Moderna first dose. Have to wait two more weeks for second shot. I personally just want some normalcy but respect others decisions to opt out. A lot of my family is not getting it (at least for a while). I had zero negative sides, neither did my wife, older sister, or Mom who is 65.
the moderna site doesn't even call it a vaccine. They call it an operating system. Thats all you need to know. None of the vaccines are FDA approved. And God forbid anyone dies from it, your life insurance wont pay out because you are test subjects.
 
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the moderna site doesn't even call it a vaccine. They call it an operating system. Thats all you need to know. None of the vaccines are FDA approved. And God forbid anyone dies from it, your life insurance wont pay out because you are test subjects.
Where did you see they don’t call it vaccin? On the pipeline page of their website they call it clearly Covid19 vaccin.

 
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I live in America, where I believe you have a right to choose, I got the vaccine, it was my choice, if you choose not to, that is your right. I do believe it is that simple.
 
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I didn’t plan on taking the vaccine (for Covid) and I have never care for any flue shots, to be honest I really don’t want to inject anything that won’t get me “bigger, stronger and faster” 😉

But, my work have made it mandatory to take the vaccine, it sucks but it is what it is...

How do you guys feel about the vaccine, did anyone already take it, are planning on taking it or definitely won’t take it at all?
Honestly, if everyone got it, it would have far less of an ability to spread and reinfect. Same goes for variants. I didn’t have to get it but I did. Did I have to for myself? No. I’m 27 and healthy. Doesn’t mean I’m not at a very slight risk, but I more so got it for the reason first mentioned. There seems to be quite a strong consensus on vaccine efficacy across the board for all vaccines in general, I’m not sure why people are against them, especially because some people can’t get it for health reasons. You getting the vaccine protects those vulnerable individuals.
 
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I live in America, where I believe you have a right to choose, I got the vaccine, it was my choice, if you choose not to, that is your right. I do believe it is that simple.
i wish everyone felt this way....i fear the coercion to get the vaccine will soon be too much for people to withstand and they will have very little choice but to get vaccinated.
 
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Honestly, if everyone got it, it would have far less of an ability to spread and reinfect. Same goes for variants. I didn’t have to get it but I did. Did I have to for myself? No. I’m 27 and healthy. Doesn’t mean I’m not at a very slight risk, but I more so got it for the reason first mentioned. There seems to be quite a strong consensus on vaccine efficacy across the board for all vaccines in general, I’m not sure why people are against them, especially because some people can’t get it for health reasons. You getting the vaccine protects those vulnerable individuals.
Ah the ol’ virtue signaling martyr rational. Volunteering to use an experimental medicine with zero long term safety only makes sense when you think with emotions like you have displayed with your post. (literally trying to guilt people into gambling with their health to save “the vulnerable”)

You know thousands of people have died from the vaccine per the CDC right? Additionally, there are people who are still getting covid despite being vaccinated. Lastly, your whole rational of getting vaccinated to stop the spread is still up in the air:

“Now, as millions have been vaccinated around the world, researchers are getting some promising early indications that mRNA vaccines in particular may successfully prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection and subsequent transmission.”


Best case scenario, you’re simply a part of an experiment and have no idea what you have done to your long term health. Worst case scenario you’re supporting a nefarious agenda.

I don’t say these things to be mean. It just honestly baffles me that people are lining up for these therapies. Most people are too worn down or tired to even care anymore.

You should explore the VAERs database and look at all the people already damaged from the vaccine. This won’t ever include the long term side effects people won’t be able to link to the vaccine years down the road. Very sad.
 
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You know thousands of people have died from the vaccine per the CDC right?.
Yes but these death have been reported as unrelated to the vaccin.

Over 245 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 3, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 4,178 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths. Get the latest safety information on the J&J/Janssen vaccine. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS.

 
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Honestly, if everyone got it, it would have far less of an ability to spread and reinfect. Same goes for variants. I didn’t have to get it but I did. Did I have to for myself? No. I’m 27 and healthy. Doesn’t mean I’m not at a very slight risk, but I more so got it for the reason first mentioned. There seems to be quite a strong consensus on vaccine efficacy across the board for all vaccines in general, I’m not sure why people are against them, especially because some people can’t get it for health reasons. You getting the vaccine protects those vulnerable individuals.
The reason many like myself refuse vaccinations is because we don't need it. I don't need to be injected with ingredients that I don't desire to be in my body. Also, asymptomatic people don't get other people sick. Sick symptomatic people get people sick. Most sick symptomatic people don't call into work. There is the problem. I had a pediatrician tell me that he should be able to vaccinate my baby for the sake of the community. Nope. Not doing anything to my progeny for the sake of anyone. Needless to say, we have had three home births, with midwives, and no vaccines for any of my kids. They don't even take Tylenol or Advil because they get over a fever, if they get one, within a day.
 
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So you’re saying willingly choosing to play Russian by getting the vaccine. Vaccine antibodies may not last forever. I’m not trying to mean, but your rationale isn’t very good for such a large choice. Just being honest
If people are willing to take research chemicals and peptides to increase muscle mass, ones far more dangerous than any vaccine, I’d say his rationale is pretty solid. People on here are taking **** that can legit kill them, talk about Russian roulette hahaha. It’s mind boggling this is how people think, or maybe they aren’t thinking and that’s the problem. The vaccine is absolutely worth it for those that don’t have health issues and can get it, as of now. If we find out it’s like the flu shot. Forget it. It’s not well developed enough to the point where it doesn’t cause complications, because it definitely put me on my ass 😂. And feeling like that for a month out of each year wouldn’t worth it in my opinion. It seems that will more than likely be the case unfortunately.
Ah the ol’ virtue signaling martyr rational. Volunteering to use an experimental medicine with zero long term safety only makes sense when you think with emotions like you have displayed with your post. (literally trying to guilt people into gambling with their health to save “the vulnerable”)

You know thousands of people have died from the vaccine per the CDC right? Additionally, there are people who are still getting covid despite being vaccinated. Lastly, your whole rational of getting vaccinated to stop the spread is still up in the air:

“Now, as millions have been vaccinated around the world, researchers are getting some promising early indications that mRNA vaccines in particular may successfully prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection and subsequent transmission.”


Best case scenario, you’re simply a part of an experiment and have no idea what you have done to your long term health. Worst case scenario you’re supporting a nefarious agenda.

I don’t say these things to be mean. It just honestly baffles me that people are lining up for these therapies. Most people are too worn down or tired to even care anymore.

You should explore the VAERs database and look at all the people already damaged from the vaccine. This won’t ever include the long term side effects people won’t be able to link to the vaccine years down the road. Very sad.
If you and I are willing to experiment with PEDs, peptides, sarms etc, some of which are far more dangerous than any vaccine that we’ve created, than I think I can take a chance and get a vaccine that is virtually harmless. My point is everyone takes chances for their own benefit. GOD FORBID we do it to benefit “the greater good” for the lack of better terms. Based of this rationale I do not see myself as a martyr whatsoever and I wasn’t implying I was one for the reason I got the vaccine. My point is if people are willing to risk their health to put on a few pounds of muscle, those people would have to be real selfish to deny a vaccine and claim they are being cautious of their health. It’s almost laughable.... also, those that died from the vaccine were individuals who developed blood clots from the J&J variant. It was 23 people, not thousands... per CDC LOL. Birth control gives woman blood clots annually at a much higher rate yet 9/10 women take some form. Either way the same people that are worried about a few deaths from a vaccine millions have taken, are the same people that claimed we didn’t need to worry about covid because you know, only a few people will die. What logic is that? It’s nonsense. And if I’m wrong about that number please share where you are getting your vaccine death stats I really don’t feel like searching through the web after typing this mate 😂
 
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Came in here thinking (hoping) maybe there'd be some serious scientific discussion. I should have known better...
Lots of very unintelligent folks on this thread for sure. Wearing their tinfoil hats tall and proud.
 
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You can go talk about how wonderful COVID shots are on Reddit with all the other very intelligent people. Great hive mind environment.
Oh trust me, I do not think they are wonderful. It was a highly unpleasant experience for me. Again the point I made was clear. I’ve been willing to risk my own health to an extent for my own personal reasons, why not do the same for a vaccine. It’s very sad others can’t do the same. I just chose to believe in the science and not what gets passed along through the media. If that’s a hive like mentality then so be it brother.
 
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Lots of very unintelligent folks on this thread for sure. Wearing their tinfoil hats tall and proud.
You can go ahead and say everyone's unintelligent but with all the head of hospitals I have going to the gym I work at say they sure as **** aren't going to get the vaccine, I don't know man but when Harvard doctos and professor are saying no that just screens somethings wrong for me🤷‍♂️
 
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You can go ahead and say everyone's unintelligent but with all the head of hospitals I have going to the gym I work at say they sure as **** aren't going to get the vaccine, I don't know man but when Harvard doctos and professor are saying no that just screens somethings wrong for me🤷‍♂️
Also sorry if I took your post out of context in advance but just hopped in and may or may not have just skimed a couple posts but figured I'd put that info out there about the Boston children, Beth Isreal. And brigham head doctors mostly against it
 
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You can go ahead and say everyone's unintelligent but with all the head of hospitals I have going to the gym I work at say they sure as **** aren't going to get the vaccine, I don't know man but when Harvard doctos and professor are saying no that just screens somethings wrong for me🤷‍♂️
Well that’s in your area. At the hospital my mother works at it’s quite the opposite. I’m sure opinions vary from region to region based on political preference and choice of media outlet haha. I was only poking fun with my tinfoil hat comment. I never said the vaccine was perfect I just made a few points. A lot of things humans do to themselves are experiments. The highlight of what I was getting at is the fact the very people on these forums are the first in line to experiment with some of the craziest ****, and are the first ones to speak out against the vaccine. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
 
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Well that’s in your area. At the hospital my mother works at it’s quite the opposite. I’m sure opinions vary from region to region based on political preference and choice of media outlet haha. I was only poking fun with my tinfoil hat comment. I never said the vaccine was perfect I just made a few points. A lot of things humans do to themselves are experiments. The highlight of what I was getting at is the fact the very people on these forums are the first in line to experiment with some of the craziest ****, and are the first ones to speak out against the vaccine. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
I can agree with that haha I'm more just against the principle of the forceful government aspect of the vaccine and with such massive money incentives for phizer and other vaccines I would have just preferred to see a long term study or two before countries threw down passport vaccine mandates and colleges such as mine forcing it upon students but not faculty
 
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If people are willing to take research chemicals and peptides to increase muscle mass, ones far more dangerous than any vaccine, I’d say his rationale is pretty solid. People on here are taking **** that can legit kill them, talk about Russian roulette hahaha. It’s mind boggling this is how people think, or maybe they aren’t thinking and that’s the problem. The vaccine is absolutely worth it for those that don’t have health issues and can get it, as of now. If we find out it’s like the flu shot. Forget it. It’s not well developed enough to the point where it doesn’t cause complications, because it definitely put me on my ass . And feeling like that for a month out of each year wouldn’t worth it in my opinion. It seems that will more than likely be the case unfortunately.

If you and I are willing to experiment with PEDs, peptides, sarms etc, some of which are far more dangerous than any vaccine that we’ve created, than I think I can take a chance and get a vaccine that is virtually harmless. My point is everyone takes chances for their own benefit. GOD FORBID we do it to benefit “the greater good” for the lack of better terms. Based of this rationale I do not see myself as a martyr whatsoever and I wasn’t implying I was one for the reason I got the vaccine. My point is if people are willing to risk their health to put on a few pounds of muscle, those people would have to be real selfish to deny a vaccine and claim they are being cautious of their health. It’s almost laughable.... also, those that died from the vaccine were individuals who developed blood clots from the J&J variant. It was 23 people, not thousands... per CDC LOL. Birth control gives woman blood clots annually at a much higher rate yet 9/10 women take some form. Either way the same people that are worried about a few deaths from a vaccine millions have taken, are the same people that claimed we didn’t need to worry about covid because you know, only a few people will die. What logic is that? It’s nonsense. And if I’m wrong about that number please share where you are getting your vaccine death stats I really don’t feel like searching through the web after typing this mate
Your whole argument that what people take on this board is more risky than the vaccine is literally just wrong. Yes there are some substances like DNP, tren, etc that I wouldn’t touch because we either KNOW of the dangers, or we don’t have any data on them, or they weren’t designed for human use. The other 80% are incredibly well studied and understood in the medical community with thousands of studies and can be used responsibly and damage mitigated.

In contrast, the vaccine data is literally SHORT TERM and the MOA has never before been used in humans. I don’t think you understand the gravity of modifying mRNA and the fact that there is literally no way the long term effects could be measured, tracked, or understood. Vaccine is “virtually harmless?” YOU LITERALLY CANT SPEAK TO THE SAFETY OF THE VACCINE AS THE VERDICT IS STILL OUT. How is this so hard for you to understand?

Look, it’s your choice to be a guinea pig and risk your health for company that is making billions off a pandemic. Just don’t bring your sh!t rationale and suggest others should follow your lead.
 
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Your whole argument that what people take on this board is more risky than the vaccine is literally just wrong. Yes there are some substances like DNP, tren, etc that I wouldn’t touch because we either KNOW of the dangers, or we don’t have any data on them, or they weren’t designed for human use. The other 80% are incredibly well studied and understood in the medical community with thousands of studies and can be used responsibly and damage mitigated.

In contrast, the vaccine data is literally SHORT TERM and the MOA has never before been used in humans. I don’t think you understand the gravity of modifying mRNA and the fact that there is literally no way the long term effects could be measured, tracked, or understood. Vaccine is “virtually harmless?” YOU LITERALLY CANT SPEAK TO THE SAFETY OF THE VACCINE AS THE VERDICT IS STILL OUT. How is this so hard for you to understand?

Look, it’s your choice to be a guinea pig and risk your health for company that is making billions off a pandemic. Just don’t bring your sh!t rationale and suggest others should follow your lead.
Bravo
 
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Oh and whomever asked me to do the research for them on total death count, it lists this on the CDC’s vaers database:

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Smart. As such a medicine/shot literally doesn’t exist.
Exactly. The industry drives up their sales and test subjects by the mantra, "it's for the love of your neighbor". It's a bull crap mantra. "It's selfless, fighting the war", stupid buzz phrases.
 
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Oh and whomever asked me to do the research for them on total death count, it lists this on the CDC’s vaers database:

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I don’t know if you are referring to me or not. If so I never said there were no death reported. I said they were reported as not related to the Vaccin according to the same CDC.
 
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OK, some folks are for it, some against it. DONE
 
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I can agree with that haha I'm more just against the principle of the forceful government aspect of the vaccine and with such massive money incentives for phizer and other vaccines I would have just preferred to see a long term study or two before countries threw down passport vaccine mandates and colleges such as mine forcing it upon students but not faculty
Oh, I absolutely don’t think the government should have a say in who gets it, unless it’s extremely deadly. Trust me as I mentioned above if this turns into one of those vaccines you need to get once a year, count me out. Not worth the downsides until it’s properly developed.
 

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