Vaccine, anyone?

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Can't believe so many believe what Fauci, Gates, the mainstream media pedals. You guys don't understand the science. You don't understand what you are talking about. You are just parroting what you heard someone say, all the talking points, all the one liners, all the defense against the shot phrases. Your like attack dogs for the establishment that have been trained to react a certain way when your master has been challenged. You guys don't honestly think for yourself. You have borg think; you have been assimilated. Living NPCs, that repeat a video game script. Nothing new, nothing original. Easy to spot, Stevie Wonder could see it. You all sound like a commercial for the shot, and like a Dr. Fauci wannabe that is in defense mode.
 

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I got my second dose of the Moderna vaccine a week ago. Both shots were easy peasy; woke up with a headache the day after, both times, took a couple tylenol and was good to go. I travel and work internationally a lot, and I'll be more comfortable doing so after being vaccinated. Although it's minor or asymptomatic for most people who get covid, I'd rather not take the chance of becoming one of the covid longhaulers or being added to the global death count...the vaccine greatly reduces these potentialities. And even if I were to get covid and be asymptomatic or only have minor symptoms, I could spread it to others who could end up in serious condition; being vaccinated also reduces the likelihood of becoming a spreader. I want things to return to 'normal,' and I figure the more people to get vaccinated the better the chances of this happening. I also feel fortunate to have access to the vaccine, while so many people in most other countries are really struggling to get access.
I agree, to each their own, as our healthcare decisions are a very personal matter. But I do hope that those feeling reluctant will eventually choose to get vaccinated. And hopefully before they get covid, and possibly suffer, or spread it and cause suffering to others.
sounds like the words of a sheep.............................do it for the "greater good" with absolutely no proof it works or what the long term side affects will be
 

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I feel like the CDC signed up some new profiles to push the COVID shot talking points. Nice try Feds, nice try.
Is that a reference to my posts? If it is there’s so much that’s funny about it I can’t begin to tell you.
If it’s not, well it still gives a very clear insight to your mind set. Paranoia.
 
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Can't believe so many believe what Fauci, Gates, the mainstream media pedals. You guys don't understand the science. You don't understand what you are talking about. You are just parroting what you heard someone say, all the talking points, all the one liners, all the defense against the shot phrases. Your like attack dogs for the establishment that have been trained to react a certain way when your master has been challenged. You guys don't honestly think for yourself. You have borg think; you have been assimilated. Living NPCs, that repeat a video game script. Nothing new, nothing original. Easy to spot, Stevie Wonder could see it. You all sound like a commercial for the shot, and like a Dr. Fauci wannabe that is in defense mode.
. You’re not thinking for yourself. You didn’t suddenly crack a code. You’re just choosing to believe a different source of ‘information’ and running away with it.
 
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Is that a reference to my posts? If it is there’s so much that’s funny about it I can’t begin to tell you.
If it’s not, well it still gives a very clear insight to your mind set. Paranoia.
I was joking, I don't believe you, or the other posters are the "feds", I'm not paranoid, I'm just saying that's what it looks like.
 
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. You’re not thinking for yourself. You didn’t suddenly crack a code. You’re just choosing to believe a different source of ‘information’ and running away with it.
No, I'm being rational. I got COVID. It was mild. I recovered. There is no reason for me to not get coerced into getting a shot. There is no reason I should take something experimental, not fully FDA approved because all the spokes persons say it's a great idea. Before anyone said anything negative about a COVID shot, I made up my own rational mind that it was not for me, and it would only be a negative thing for myself if I did get it.
 

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No, I'm being rational. I got COVID. It was mild. I recovered. There is no reason for me to not get coerced into getting a shot. There is no reason I should take something experimental, not fully FDA approved because all the spokes persons say it's a great idea. Before anyone said anything negative about a COVID shot, I made up my own rational mind that it was not for me, and it would only be a negative thing for myself if I did get it.
Don’t you see the irony YOU of flagging up the lack of FDA approval as part of the reason for not accepting the vaccine?
Sorry, I’ve been drawn back into this, can’t help myself. I said I’d leave you to your beliefs, I’m going away now.
 
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for over a year my wife and i were fearful of getting covid---until we got it.

we've had colds that were worse and we are in our 60s!!!


maybe it was because we both got flu shots every year? i wonder if any research has been done on if it hits people harder who weren't getting flu shots prior to the covid?

it amazes me how many of these people who are preaching to get a covid shot weren't getting flu shots?
 
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I have no horse in this race, but I found this article rather annoying. Ohio governor is starting a weekly lottery for vaccinated residents. Winners receive 1 million dollars.


Get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine…..I honestly don’t give a fvck. But don’t push people either way and don’t start offering bribes 🤦‍♂️
😆😆 This is a prime example of those 'only in America' -moments.. 😄 I'm sorry my US bros, but this is fucken hilarious, if legit 😂
 
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😆😆 This is a prime example of those 'only in America' -moments.. 😄 I'm sorry my US bros, but this is fucken hilarious, if legit 😂
You’re absolutely right man! Lol. I think it’s legit as multiple news outlets are reporting it. I know I shouldn’t be shocked, but this took me back a bit lol
 
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for over a year my wife and i were fearful of getting covid---until we got it.

we've had colds that were worse and we are in our 60s!!!


maybe it was because we both got flu shots every year? i wonder if any research has been done on if it hits people harder who weren't getting flu shots prior to the covid?

it amazes me how many of these people who are preaching to get a covid shot weren't getting flu shots?
just in the interests of balance, whilst I also know people who had covid and it was no issue, I was married to a respiratory consultant during the pandemic and thus my friend network also has various medical professionals who were directly dealing with covid patients

they absolutely witnessed many people die, some of whom where under 50 and otherwise fit and healthy. Obviously more who were older/higher risk but regardless they were dying directly because of covid.

now that’s only a snap shot from 2 hospitals in the uk so I have no idea if the numbers have been altered nationally/globally or whether it’s no worse than flu would have been etc

but covid itself has killed many people and as a specific virus is very much real.

But my point is, I don’t think whether covid itself is a hoax/not a serious virus can be seriously debated. It exists (where it came from 🤷) and it can cause death, even in healthy adults.

The reaction to it, the vaccines etc absolutely can be argued both ways as this thread shows. I don’t think these things normally become completely clear at any time but at some stage years down the line if it can ever be completely clarified one way or another I’d be Great to look back at this thread and see who called it right 😂
 
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just in the interests of balance, whilst I also know people who had covid and it was no issue, I was married to a respiratory consultant during the pandemic and thus my friend network also has various medical professionals who were directly dealing with covid patients

they absolutely witnessed many people die, some of whom where under 50 and otherwise fit and healthy. Obviously more who were older/higher risk but regardless they were dying directly because of covid.

now that’s only a snap shot from 2 hospitals in the uk so I have no idea if the numbers have been altered nationally/globally or whether it’s no worse than flu would have been etc

but covid itself has killed many people and as a specific virus is very much real.

But my point is, I don’t think whether covid itself is a hoax/not a serious virus can be seriously debated. It exists (where it came from 🤷) and it can cause death, even in healthy adults.

The reaction to it, the vaccines etc absolutely can be argued both ways as this thread shows. I don’t think these things normally become completely clear at any time but at some stage years down the line if it can ever be completely clarified one way or another I’d be Great to look back at this thread and see who called it right 😂
in the 2018-2019 flu season 35 million got sick with flu, 16.5 million went to health care provider for flu, 490,600 were hospitalized and 34,200 died from flu....these are American only statistics not worldwide.

vaccination for influenza began in 1930s with large scale availability in the US beginning in 1945. with this long term use people are aware of long term safety of the flu vaccine, yet in 2018 only 49.2% of Americans aged 6 months and older CHOSE to get the flu vaccination.
 

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If this survey was carried out with the criteria of (for example) over 40s / under 40s, or income above x / income below x rather than vaccinated / not vaccinated, I suspect you would get similar splits. It really means nothing as a stand alone. Especially when you consider (I assume?) that vaccines have been distributed among the older population first?
 
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in the 2018-2019 flu season 35 million got sick with flu, 16.5 million went to health care provider for flu, 490,600 were hospitalized and 34,200 died from flu....these are American only statistics not worldwide.

vaccination for influenza began in 1930s with large scale availability in the US beginning in 1945. with this long term use people are aware of long term safety of the flu vaccine, yet in 2018 only 49.2% of Americans aged 6 months and older CHOSE to get the flu vaccination.
The flu vaccine has more risk than benefit IMO. I’ve listened to an infection disease Dr who compiles, analyzes, and reports regional data to the CDC present live to a crowd and say “the flu vaccine has 0% efficacy for the last 2 consecutive years.” They guess the strands and miss the mark often. The small risk comes from all the unnatural components in the vaccine. Maybe a small risk, but the risk is more than 0%, this making the risk outweighs the benefit.

I’m not telling you to not get the flu vaccine nor am I offering medical advice.
 
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The flu vaccine has more risk than benefit IMO. I’ve listened to an infection disease Dr who compiles, analyzes, and reports regional data to the CDC present live to a crowd and say “the flu vaccine has 0% efficacy for the last 2 consecutive years.” They guess the strands and miss the mark often. The small risk comes from all the unnatural components in the vaccine. Maybe a small risk, but the risk is more than 0%, this making the risk outweighs the benefit.

I’m not telling you to not get the flu vaccine nor am I offering medical advice.
they have been working on the flu vaccine since the 1930s!!!
 
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NY yankees say that 8 fully vaccinated players have tested positive for covid....damn!!!

i believe the yankees have a 25 man roster.....and 8 out of 25 tested positive...

i bet there is going to be a whole lotta spin put on this, anyone wanna bet?

say it aint so joe....
 
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NY yankees say that 8 fully vaccinated players have tested positive for covid....damn!!!

i believe the yankees have a 25 man roster.....and 8 out of 25 tested positive...

i bet there is going to be a whole lotta spin put on this, anyone wanna bet?

say it aint so joe....
Pro vaxxers REALLY like to guilt people into getting the vaccine to “help stop the spread to
the vulnerable” but transmissibility wasn’t studied in the trials as far as I know. It’s only to lessen the severity of the disease.
 
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Pro vaxxers REALLY like to guilt people into getting the vaccine to “help stop the spread to
the vulnerable” but transmissibility wasn’t studied in the trials as far as I know. It’s only to lessen the severity of the disease.
none of the yankees who tested positive had any symptoms, this is very bad since they could be dropping safety precautions thinking they were vaccinated and couldn't catch or spread the disease.
 
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This Dr is brilliant. He breaks down this “pandemic” better than anyone I’ve
heard yet.

Everyone clamoring in fear and getting the vaccine really should listen.

@thebigt he even talks about the flu vaccine and how it’s very well documented that it makes people more prone to having bad corona virus reaction. Fascinating.

 
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This Dr is brilliant. He breaks down this “pandemic” better than anyone I’ve
heard yet.

Everyone clamoring in fear and getting the vaccine really should listen.

@thebigt he even talks about the flu vaccine and how it’s very well documented that it makes people more prone to having bad corona virus reaction. Fascinating.

my wife and i both get flu shots every year including this one...we tested positive for covid and our symptoms were VERY mild
 
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my wife and i both get flu shots every year including this one...we tested positive for covid and our symptoms were VERY mild
That’s great. Just offering some info if you’re interested in expanding your horizons. It’s interesting how you are so convinced that the flu shot is beneficial. Have you done extensive research on the topic?
 
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That’s great. Just offering some info if you’re interested in expanding your horizons. It’s interesting how you are so convinced that the flu shot is beneficial. Have you done extensive research on the topic?
the only thing i am convinced of is paying taxes and dying....from my personal experience both my wife and i have gotten the flu shot every year for well a decade and neither of us have had the flu or suffered any side effects--i am 62 and training for a 7k race.
 
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the only thing i am convinced of is paying taxes and dying....from my personal experience both my wife and i have gotten the flu shot every year for well a decade and neither of us have had the flu or suffered any side effects--i am 62 and training for a 7k race.
You would probably be training for a 50k race if you hadn’t gotten the flu shot so much....
 
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Lol just giving you a hard time @thebigt
no problem....i am a believer in vaccinations--just not convinced of long term safety of the covid vaccines.

imo, almost all the coronavirus info we have been given from the start seems to have been tainted by politics...
 
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no problem....i am a believer in vaccinations--just not convinced of long term safety of the covid vaccines.

imo, almost all the coronavirus info we have been given from the start seems to have been tainted by politics...
Yeah it’s so bad that its obvious there is an agenda
 

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I didn’t plan on taking the vaccine (for Covid) and I have never care for any flue shots, to be honest I really don’t want to inject anything that won’t get me “bigger, stronger and faster” 😉

But, my work have made it mandatory to take the vaccine, it sucks but it is what it is...

How do you guys feel about the vaccine, did anyone already take it, are planning on taking it or definitely won’t take it at all?
yiu know there is a .04% chance of dying from it if you are not obese and super unhealthy.. you have to be a moron to take it
 
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Or a conspiracy theory retard to NOT take it.
I think you are being very closed mined !
i agree, there is no need for name calling for choosing to get or not get vaccinated.

i am against vaccination but that is my choice, if you choose to get vaccinated that is your choice...i relish the fact that we live in a country where people have the freedom to choose, and i truly hope it stays this way!!!

btw-i am a recovering alcoholic and i haven't drank for many years--but if people choose to drink i say more power to you, provided you don't drink and drive!!!!
 
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The AAS community should know better than anyone that anything released with such little research backing it isnt really indicative of anything and comes with risks
 
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The anabolic community should know better than anyone that anything released with such little research backing it isnt really indicative of anything and comes with risks
the American public are the guinea pigs for long term effects, imo....no one can say with certainty what the long term effects will be.
 

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the American public are the guinea pigs for long term effects, imo....no one can say with certainty what the long term effects will be.
Whats strange to me is that our community spends so much time reading peer-reviews studies and shutting down others claims' of pharmacological benefits or risks based on the details of the study and the fact that 1 or 2 studies aren't enough evidence to be conclusive. Meanwhile, they don't approach the new vaccine with that same mentality
 
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Whats strange to me is that our community spends so much time reading peer-reviews studies and shutting down others claims' of pharmacological benefits or risks based on the details of the study and the fact that 1 or 2 studies aren't enough evidence to be conclusive. Meanwhile, they don't approach the new vaccine with that same mentality
they must just trust everything the government tells them?
 
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This is a fun looking thread. Surprised I missed it. :)
 

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in the 2018-2019 flu season 35 million got sick with flu, 16.5 million went to health care provider for flu, 490,600 were hospitalized and 34,200 died from flu....these are American only statistics not worldwide.

vaccination for influenza began in 1930s with large scale availability in the US beginning in 1945. with this long term use people are aware of long term safety of the flu vaccine, yet in 2018 only 49.2% of Americans aged 6 months and older CHOSE to get the flu vaccination.
500K died from covid in a year. You are proving the point that covid is way more deadly than the flu.
 
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500K died from covid in a year. You are proving the point that covid is way more deadly than the flu.
no, i am proving that the flu vaccine has a long history of safety and yet less than half of Americans each year choose to get it, why?

years ago before i started getting flu shots i got the flu and it was a miserable 10 days before i was feeling better...more recently i got the covid and it wasn't anymore than a very mild cold for 3 days---given the choice i would take covid over the flu.
 
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