Jswain's training log for powerlifting

jswain34 said:
Good question. Sorry, i use these little sayings that I know what they mean but without being a little gnome in my brain reading my thoughts youd have no idea. Im really referring to the hip “wedge” thats created when you properly leverage the bar against your hips and make the fulcrum of the movement within the hips themselves vs the L5-S1 or higher in the lumbar. Its very difficult to explain, but once you feel it one time you’ll never forget the feeling. Once i learned how to do it a few years ago my deadlift shot up 60lbs over the course of a couple months. This video by duffin illustrates it and is what I watched prior to it finally clicking for me. “Knees out” and “not letting the bar dictate the position of your hips” (paraphrasing, havent watched the video in a few weeks) are what really helped it click for me. The way he pops the bar off the floor with just getting his hips into the correct position is what I mean by “pop from the hips”.

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If you are gonna study / learn the Sumo, you got the right guy there. I am thinking of signing up for his movement instruction thing for a little bit to see what all I can learn there. I want to get my strength back and do it healthily.
 
jswain34 said:
Good question. Sorry, i use these little sayings that I know what they mean but without being a little gnome in my brain reading my thoughts youd have no idea. Im really referring to the hip “wedge” thats created when you properly leverage the bar against your hips and make the fulcrum of the movement within the hips themselves vs the L5-S1 or higher in the lumbar. Its very difficult to explain, but once you feel it one time you’ll never forget the feeling. Once i learned how to do it a few years ago my deadlift shot up 60lbs over the course of a couple months. This video by duffin illustrates it and is what I watched prior to it finally clicking for me. “Knees out” and “not letting the bar dictate the position of your hips” (paraphrasing, havent watched the video in a few weeks) are what really helped it click for me. The way he pops the bar off the floor with just getting his hips into the correct position is what I mean by “pop from the hips”.

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Oh I'm with you.
 
MrKleen73 said:
If you are gonna study / learn the Sumo, you got the right guy there. I am thinking of signing up for his movement instruction thing for a little bit to see what all I can learn there. I want to get my strength back and do it healthily.
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Absolutely. He’s the guy i always go to as I always seem to get the most out of his vids.

Hyde said:
I remember that video; it’s a REALLY useful watch
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100%. I dont remember too many videos off the top of my head but that one I watch in the locker room prior to pulling probably once every other month. He addresses positioning itself but also the mentality you need to have about “demanding the bar submit to your will”. Thats THE mindset you have to have to pull big (edit: weights...jesus) and get in the best position to do so.
 
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Mom came to visit this weekend so i havent gotten any training in. Wanted to see what the hyped up Northeast foliage is all about. Got to spend a lot of good time together and ate some good grub. Check out this order of chicken and waffles I had for dinner Friday night.

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Blue cheese crumbles there and a sweet potato buried under the pile of chicken. Got buffalo, brown gravy, and vermont maple syrup for sauces on the side. Woof...it was so damn good.
 
Week 11 day 1 combined with week 10 day 4 (skipped upper on day 3 altogether)

Wu:
Dyn stretch
GHR x12x2
Lpng rope facepull with ER: 35x15x2
Goblet squat: 55x8x2
Pallof: Monster mini x2 sets of a couple

•Log C&P (up to 2rm, 3rm was 230x3@9)
70x5
100x5
130x5
160x3
(+ cerberus red elbows)
190x2
220x2@8
245x1@10, the second one was attempted but didnt really stand a chance. Definitely thought id hit this coming into the session as I was actually planning my top set to be with 250 but after the 220 dropped it by 5lb. My clean from spider to full rack wasnt difficult but wasnt super clean either which left me a little out of position prior to initiating the first press which made it more difficult than it should have been.

•Strict Log Pin press OP (no elbow sleeves)
160x5
170x3
190x1+ —> x5@10

Ss/

•Band Pull through (2x20)
Avg band x20x2

•Zercher Box Sq (3x8)
165x8
215x8
(Work sets, was running pretty damn late so i just had to get some work in)
255x8
285x8x2

Ss/

•Rocky Pull Up (3x8)
Bw (242) x8x3

Will probably combine a rep bench with some dynamic effort deads on Wednesday then likely be I’ll be off the barbell until my first compound session in NM next weekend unless i try to get a session in next Saturday if i get into Colorado early enough. I doubt I will, but still holding out some hope.

I know I have made mention of compound lifts for my NM compound days. But here’s what im thinking:

Squat - Front or Zercher Box
Bench - incline close grip l
Dead - Sumo
Carry - a few sets of something.
 
Should have went 240 on the log! But hindsight is 20/20 of course - is that a new 1RM for you??

Sounds like a great weekend.
 
Hyde said:
Should have went 240 on the log! But hindsight is 20/20 of course - is that a new 1RM for you??

Sounds like a great weekend.
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Yah, no doubt. It’ll be there next time. Actually, yes it is. The last time i hit a max single was in may and I failed 240 after hitting 220. So current Log PRs are (all from this training cycle):

245x1@10
230x3@9
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If going by that I shouldve been able to hit 245 for a double. It’ll be there next time i go fo a 2rm, i have no doubt.
 
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Went in, did some stuff.

Warmup:
Dyn stretch
GHR: 3x12 @ BW w/ hands behind head
Ss/
Rusin shoulder warmup tri set: 3x15 each exercise w/ mini band

Note: down and back = 120 ft total

A1. Yoke push (rogue yk1)
Implement weighs 185
275 lb down and back (60ft each way)

60s rest

A2. Sandbag front carry
Some bag marked “50-125lb” d & b

Id guess the bag was somewhere around 100lb. Definitely wasnt 50-75.

60s rest

Back to yoke push, so on and so forth for the 3 rounds.

•Rep BP (duffalo) modified drop set to failure
55/105x8
145x8
195x4
225x9@9 (ring on ring)
60s rest
215x5 (pinky on ring)
60s rest
215x5 (ring on ring)

Can barely get 225 for a set in the double digits anymore. Lol wtf man. Hopefully some time off paradoxically helps.

•Seated facepull (3x8
65x8
70x8x2

Ss/

•Db rolling tri press (3x12)
45x12x3

Last day of training til Sunday or Monday when ill start doing the db/band/suspension trainer routine. Im crashing in Evergreen Colorado Saturday so the drive is closer to 16 hours than the 14 i had done to Denver in the past, so training somewhere Saturday is pretty much off the table. Especially since I’m dropping Brooke off at her parents along the way and im sure I’ll sit around there talking to them for a half hour to an hour. The adrafanil i have from Noots depot will come in handy that day.
 
Adrafanil combined with Bronkaid & caffeine for road trip marathons! Hope your trip is smooth and enjoyable.

Also, paradoxically is a great word
 
Hyde said:
Adrafanil combined with Bronkaid & caffeine for road trip marathons! Hope your trip is smooth and enjoyable.

Also, paradoxically is a great word
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That reminds me, I need to pick up some Ephedrine when I get my flu shot at the pharmacy tomorrow. Been wanting to grab more for a while. Thanks, man. I tried to see if I could start my rotation on Tuesday instead of Monday so I didnt have to put in 15 hour days of driving and could actually enjoy it some but that was a no go from my program. Sucks - but I’m sure I’ll still encounter some perty views along the way.

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Evergreen is a cool little place. HMU if ya got time for a session!
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I’ll probably get in around 9pm if I leave when I would like to around 5am so truthfully the chances of us getting in a session are, unfortunately, extremely low. Had I been able to finagle an extra travel day it wouldve gone down, no doubt.
 
Woof. What a long journey that was. I finally made it in to New Mexico last night around 10.

Mini workouts start today. Was slow getting moving this morning so I really only got through Rusin’s 3 way shoulder routine.

10/7
AM:
(A-B-C done as a continuous circuit, D after the circuit)
A. Band dislocatations: 3x15 w/ mini
B. Band facepull + apart: micro mini doubled x15x3
C. Band pull apart: single side of mini x15 (vs grabbing both sides of the band)

D. Micro mini band pushdowns w/ sup grip: doubled micro mini over door hydraulic thing x50

PM:
Forward plank: BW x 60s x2
Micro mini band pushdowns w/ sup grip:
Doubled micro “ “ x50

Had more planned for the PM exercises but made excuses of being tired and hungry and didnt do it. Gonna try to get 2 30m mini workouts in tomorrow.
 
SOme good work Rusin has some nice programs. I have his Hypertrophy for Athletes I think it is called. Has a lot of heavy lifting, and lots of good accessories, mobility and other stuff incorporated. Just want to let my shoulder square away before trying to give it a go. It looked a lot more weight intensive than i expected at first.
 
AM:
Doubled banded hip bridge:
Mini doubled under feet and over hips + short light band around knees x15/12/10

Couldnt get up again this morning so i had to pick just 1 thing.

PM:

Warmup:
1. 4 way hip series: micro mini doubled around table leg x15 each flex/adduct/abduct/ext
2. Air squats: bw x10

(A-B-C-D-E done as continuous circuit for 3 rounds w/ 2m rest between rounds. E done afterwards in normal big 3 fashion)

A. Suspension pistol squats: x10 each legx3
B. Suspension rear delt fly: 3x15x3
C. Double banded hip bridge: 3x15x3
D. Pushup
a. with mini band doubled over back: x5 -> bw x10
b. Bw x20x2

E. Big 3 with band for bird dog
Curl ups: x8
Side plank: x6 10s hold/5 down each side
Bird dog: x10 each leg

F. Micro mini band pushdown: doubled over door x50

Neither of these “mini workouts” was fun. This stuff is pretty mind numbing to me. Although I understand the importance of this stuff and my goal for this to be a sort of “restorative” block, I’m really looking forward to Saturday sessions.
 
MrKleen73 said:
SOme good work Rusin has some nice programs. I have his Hypertrophy for Athletes I think it is called. Has a lot of heavy lifting, and lots of good accessories, mobility and other stuff incorporated. Just want to let my shoulder square away before trying to give it a go. It looked a lot more weight intensive than i expected at first.
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Ive seen him talk about that program a few times. I think its called Functional Hypertrophy Training though. But he definitely markets it to athletes no doubt.
 
Put 5th set in my amazon cart for some new material after this training cycle. Feelin the need to change things up for a few as I won’t be making my WPO debut this October . Any thoughts after your reading and application of the book?
 
1. I can email it to you so don’t press “buy now”.
2. It can definitely be a successful program when followed consistently over a long period of time. Your gains wont feel as immediate or as fast paced as the ones youve been making now are. But rest assured, they will come progressively over time. You really just have to try it and see if it works for your lifts.
3. Theres a chance it will work for some lifts and not others, for instance i think Hyde does it or a close variation of it for Squat and Bench but not deads.
4. Your sessions will be much shorter than the one’s you’re doing now are, I can assure you that. So if you need to cut down on gym time that could be a good reason to switch over.

I’m sure Hyde has some more useful input too so maybe he’ll chime in. He is good at synthesizing all the different philosophies and books out there and spitting them back out into good tidbits of info.
 
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jswain34 said:
1. I can email it to you so don’t press “buy now”.
2. It can definitely be a successful program.l when followed consistently over a long period of time. Your gains wont feel as immediate or as fast paced as the ones youve been making now are. But rest assured, they will come progressively over time. You really just have to try it and see if it works for your lifts.
3. Theres a chance it will work for some lifts and not others, for instance i think Hyde does it or a close variation of it for Squat and Bench but not deads.
4. Your sessions will be much shorter than the one’s you’re doing now are, I can assure you that. So if you need to cut down on gym time that could be a good reason to switch over.

I’m sure Hyde has some more useful input too so maybe he’ll chime in. He is good at synthesizing all the different philosophies and books out there and spitting them back out into good tidbits of info.
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That would be awesome if you could email some tidbits so I could peruse a bit and feel it out. No rush whatsoever though, it’ll be a month or two before I go changing it up.
 
jswain34 said:
Ive seen him talk about that program a few times. I think its called Functional Hypertrophy Training though. But he definitely markets it to athletes no doubt.
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Yeah that's the one, I have the PDF if you want to take a look at it.
 
jswain34 said:
1. I can email it to you so don’t press “buy now”.
2. It can definitely be a successful program.l when followed consistently over a long period of time. Your gains wont feel as immediate or as fast paced as the ones youve been making now are. But rest assured, they will come progressively over time. You really just have to try it and see if it works for your lifts.
3. Theres a chance it will work for some lifts and not others, for instance i think Hyde does it or a close variation of it for Squat and Bench but not deads.
4. Your sessions will be much shorter than the one’s you’re doing now are, I can assure you that. So if you need to cut down on gym time that could be a good reason to switch over.

I’m sure Hyde has some more useful input too so maybe he’ll chime in. He is good at synthesizing all the different philosophies and books out there and spitting them back out into good tidbits of info.
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5th Set is where you should go if you just guaranteed want to get better at powerlifting over the next couple years. It works for a lot of people for a lot of reasons and is designed to be very accommodating. I have the Evolutions book as well (that unfortunately isn’t cracked so I can’t send to you) and if you like 5th Set from us you should buy that one and read it right afterwards - it’s just tweaks to the OG after hundreds of more lifters could give feedback.

I actually used 5th Set to pull 628, my best ever. It appears to work for all of the big 3 for me. I just know the Cube also works for my pull specifically. Currently mashing up 5th Set for my bench and Squat and Cube for my pull and OHP (kinda). But following the 9 day micro cycles and peaking and everything 5th Set.
 
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AM
Rusin shoulder tri-set:
1. Banded disloc w/ doubled mini: x15x3
2. Band facepull + apart w/ ER: doubled micro mini x15x3
3. Band pull apart: single side of mini x15x3
Curl:
1. Spider curl: 22.5x15
2. Hammer curl: 22.5x15
3. Spider curl: 22.5x15
Pallof:
1. Doubled mini x30sx2 each side

PM:
Dyn stretch
1. Db hip swing: 52.5x20x3
2. Knee banded 1 1/4 goblet squat: 52.5x10x3 w doubled mini just below knee
3. Banded BO: 52.5 each hand + mini x 10
BO row: 52.5x25x2
4. Prone banded hamstring curl: doubled mini x15x|
Suspension trainer hamstring curl: x12
4 way hip: micro mini x flex/add/ext/abd x20 each
5. Sup grip tri pulldown: doubled micro mini x50x||

These workouts dont keep me engaged and I generally have no interest. I might need to figure something else out. Sort of just constructing a workout of random exercises whenever I decide to do one. So maybe if I find some exercises I can buy into I’ll just do those over and over again.

Have a 3 day weekend this week that I just found out about today. Gonna drive to Salt Lake City Saturday. Will work out Sat then hang around town then find a cool hike for Sunday and come back Monday.
 
Compound day - took programming from a day from the 2nd Project Momentum I did, I eliminated two exercises from the day and just used the RPE on top sets and then back down work.

Front squat (elite fts ss yoke reversed) (X1@8, 76%x5x2)
65/115/155/205x5
(+ loose belt)
245x5
285x3@
315x1@7
345x1@7
365x1@8
[email protected]/7

45 deg Inc Cg bp w/ axle
(X4@6, x4@7, x4@8, + 4 repeats @8 decreasing as needed)
35 (?) / 85/ 125x5
175x4@6
[email protected]
205x4@9
(Repeats @8)
195x4@8
195x4@8
195x4@9
185x4@8

I guessed the weight of the bar, no idea if it was right or not. I just thought it felt lighter than a standard power bar.

Sumo DL (Tx DL bar) (x1@8, 80%x3x3)
WU during above- Suitcase deadlift: 135x5x2 each side
135/225/275/315x5
(+ belt)
365x5
405x3
455x2
[email protected]
(+ hook)
535x1@8
(Down sets, + straps)
465x3x3@6/6/6 - 120s rest b/t

Now thats more like it. Wooh that session felt good after pussyfooting around for a week. Leaning towards alternating deadlift stances each week.

I love RPE based training, it keeps me mentally engaged in every set. I realize that should be the case even in straight set programming but i aint gonna lie it just doesnt happen like it does when I know the current set sets the stage for the set to come. It makes me feel like I control how strong I can be on any given day.
 
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Hyde said:
Seems like a great day of lifting!
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That it was!! Yesterday on top of the 8 mile hike with 2,300 ft elevation gain I went on today already has my lower body sore af. My quads were a little sore this AM but when I stood up from the stool after I ate dinner I knew that tomorrow I am going to be in for a hurting.

Here’s a pic of where I called it a day. The true peak was another 1/2 mile w/ 500 more feet elevation gain, I had had enough and was starting to get low on water so I pussed out. Still got a stellar workout and view.

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Those were at 7,586

SkRaw85 said:
I’ve been thinking of switching stances weekly too. Haven’t done con speed deads in forever and I miss them dearly.
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I shouldve specified, I was only talking about these next 4 weeks when im only doing barbell compounds 1x/week. When I get back to Upper/Lower ill do a Conv variation one of the days like I had been doing.
 
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You big puss! LOL Those are beautiful pics though, I am jealous!
 
MrKleen73 said:
You big puss! LOL Those are beautiful pics though, I am jealous!
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I felt like it! But i had already done about 650ft of elevation gain in about a half mile before that and was pretty damn worn out, the when i got to that flat spot to sit down and have my bison jerky and cliff bar I realized I was down to about 1/3 of my water supply left and still had to get ~4 miles back to the car. So yes, I definitely pussed out but i had my reasons . It was gorgeous...pics honestly dont do it justice. On my way back to NW NM today I drove through Arches National Park in Moab, Utah.

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Those were Sand Dune Arch and Broken Arch, only 2 out of the at least 4 that there are. The others required a bit of hiking to get to and after yesterday i wasnt having it. Gonna try to bring Brooke back here when she comes out to visit in a few weeks.
 
SOme beautiful landscape there. What a great place for walking and yeah it is important to have water. You could get away with not much food but water... yeah you need an ample supply of that.
 
I just got out of breath carrying a large switch up a couple flights of stairs. Couldn’t have weighed 40lbs

That is an awesome looking hike!
 
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I just got out of breath carrying a large switch up a couple flights of stairs. Couldn’t have weighed 40lbs

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Bro i swear on a stack of bibles there were times on the climb up that mountain id make it 10 steps and be panting like I just sprinted the 400m dash. I blame the elevation
 
Dubble dip
 
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Not much but I did get a mini workout in this morning.

(Tri set)
1. Mini band tri pulldown (unil) x20x2 (grabbing about half way up the band with the end around the top corner of a door)
2. Suspension trainer rear delt fly: x15x2
3. Hammer curl: 30x12x2

Better than nothing. Wanted to do something tonight but have to teach myself how to tie sutures with one hand first. If I figure it out quick enough maybe ill get another mini session in.
 
jswain34 said:
Not much but I did get a mini workout in this morning.

(Tri set)
1. Mini band tri pulldown (unil) x20x2 (grabbing about half way up the band with the end around the top corner of a door)
2. Suspension trainer rear delt fly: x15x2
3. Hammer curl: 30x12x2

Better than nothing. Wanted to do something tonight but have to teach myself how to tie sutures with one hand first. If I figure it out quick enough maybe ill get another mini session in.
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One end held by teeth.
 
2x
 
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Tonight i went to the gym im going to train at tomorrow in order to get a key card and damn near signed up for a strongman comp for tomorrow down in Albuquerque. But the 80$ and 3 hr drive kept me from doing it. The gym is putting on “Static Monsters” next Saturday though so I think im gonna do that just to do something. Its a max log and max 18” deadlift. Hoping to get that 250 at least on the log and the 18” i dont know we’ll see, gonna do that variation for deads tomorrow so ill have a better idea tomorrow night this time.

The comp in Albuquerque for the 242 heavyweights was a 225 12” log for reps, 490 50’ farmers with deadlift amrap once you walked em 50’ with a time limit of 60s, a 230 keg over 50” bar for reps in 60s, a truck pull with weight tbd, and a 3 bar bend in 60s. Seemed like events that I had been training for in my recent training cycle so I seriously considered signing up. I definitely wouldnt of won but i also surely wouldnt of zeroed out of the thing either.
 
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10/19

Dyn stretch
Walking lunges w/ goblet 35lb kb hold
Donnie hang
GHR: bw x15
Rusin Pull Apart: red mini x15x2
Pallof: red mini x10s/3s x 3 sets

•High Bar Camber Squat (x2@8, x72%x5x2)
(Flats)
85lb bar/135/175/225/265x5
(+ loose belt)
315x5@8
[email protected] ~8
275x5x2@6/4 (last set was low bar)

Forgot how much this thing works you as its swinging and as you try to keep it from doing so.

•12” Log C&P (cleaning first rep only) (x4@6, x4@7, x4@8, x1x4 @60%)
10” log - 72lb x10 WU
12” log - 135x5
165x4
185x4@6
(+ red cerberus sleeves)
205x4@7
[email protected] (video) - ugglyyyy ass pick..my weight got way back on me on the clean and I had to do a false alarm clean from the lap to get myself resituated in the proper position.
155x1x4 - 60s rest

*Matched 10” log PR, which I did @9.5*, which is probably to be expected with the bigger diameter log. Wasnt sure if wed be using a 10” or 12” next weekend so I just wanted to get one training day in with the 12”.

3x15 rusin PAsw/ red mini band throughout

Vid:
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•18” Axle Deadlift (x1@8, 60%x1x3)
115/205/255/295/345/385x5
435x3@8
435x1
[email protected]
305x1x3 - 60s rest

Found out today that I am not built for the 18” deadlift lol. This is essentially starting right at my typical fail point on conv pulls. Honestly thinking I probably wont do that static monsters thing next Saturday at this point. The 18” deadlift seems like more of a injury liability and something that would really piss me off and have me trying to pull something im not currently capable of.

•Rev Hyper
90x15x3
 
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10/22

Wu: push-up x15
10 minute walk

A1. Banded DB floor press: mini band in hands under back + 52.5 per hand x20, 15, 15
A2. Banded GHR: heavy band x15x3

B1. Contralateral load fw lunge: 52.5x12x3
B2. Banded Row: Orange + green + purple around door handle x20x3

C1. Band facepull + ER: micro mini x20x2
C2. Susp trainer fallout: bw x15x2
C3. Spider curl: 35x15x2

Did something. Something better than nothing. Still leaning towards no on the impromptu “comp” this weekend. Really wanna do it for the log but just probably fukking up my back doesnt seem worth the cost of entry. If i had trained 18” deadlift some prior to 3 days ago to try and nail in some lift specific technique, maybe. Still might say ef it and do it. I dont know. I think im really just craving the intensity of it.
 
Man that log is a long way from the ground! Moving nice weight long distances baby!
 
jswain34 said:
10/19

Dyn stretch
Walking lunges w/ goblet 35lb kb hold
Donnie hang
GHR: bw x15
Rusin Pull Apart: red mini x15x2
Pallof: red mini x10s/3s x 3 sets

•High Bar Camber Squat (x2@8, x72%x5x2)
(Flats)
85lb bar/135/175/225/265x5
(+ loose belt)
315x5@8
[email protected] ~8
275x5x2@6/4 (last set was low bar)

Forgot how much this thing works you as its swinging and as you try to keep it from doing so.

•12” Log C&P (cleaning first rep only) (x4@6, x4@7, x4@8, x1x4 @60%)
10” log - 72lb x10 WU
12” log - 135x5
165x4
185x4@6
(+ red cerberus sleeves)
205x4@7
[email protected] (video) - ugglyyyy ass pick..my weight got way back on me on the clean and I had to do a false alarm clean from the lap to get myself resituated in the proper position.
155x1x4 - 60s rest

*Matched 10” log PR, which I did @9.5*, which is probably to be expected with the bigger diameter log. Wasnt sure if wed be using a 10” or 12” next weekend so I just wanted to get one training day in with the 12”.

3x15 rusin PAsw/ red mini band throughout

Vid:
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•18” Axle Deadlift (x1@8, 60%x1x3)
115/205/255/295/345/385x5
435x3@8
435x1
[email protected]
305x1x3 - 60s rest

Found out today that I am not built for the 18” deadlift lol. This is essentially starting right at my typical fail point on conv pulls. Honestly thinking I probably wont do that static monsters thing next Saturday at this point. The 18” deadlift seems like more of a injury liability and something that would really piss me off and have me trying to pull something im not currently capable of.

•Rev Hyper
90x15x3
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I thought about doing a Static Monsters near me this Saturday, but I hate 18" deadlifts. All risk, no reward.
 
jimbuick said:
I thought about doing a Static Monsters near me this Saturday, but I hate 18" deadlifts. All risk, no reward.
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Thank you for corroborating my thoughts on it. I feel like less of a pussy now. Much appreciated.
 
jimbuick said:
I thought about doing a Static Monsters near me this Saturday, but I hate 18" deadlifts. All risk, no reward.
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I feel the same. I have zero interest in static monsters. I am not particularly good at 18” and axles even worse, and it was just never a satisfying lift for me. After watching short guys who deadlift what I can from the floor pull 800 while I hit 680 (deadlift bar on 18”) you realize it’s quite a sham when you can start with knees under the bar for some folks.

Just max out on their log!
 
Hyde said:
I feel the same. I have zero interest in static monsters. I am not particularly good at 18” and axles even worse, and it was just never a satisfying lift for me. After watching short guys who deadlift what I can from the floor pull 800 while I hit 680 (deadlift bar on 18”) you realize it’s quite a sham when you can start with knees under the bar for some folks.

Just max out on their log!
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To hell with those short fellas. That’s exactly the circumstance i had playing out in my mind that had me knowing id be real pissed off if i had done the “competition” today.
 
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